New PermaSF for Chaos Plains

Feanixxx

Feanixxx

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by cerb
I don't have an assassin and I don't need help farming Chaos Plains post-patch, I'd just like to know how Mindflay Spectre spawns work I suspect this is the wrong thread, Cerb - no Permie-Sin is going to take them on or their first spawn will kill with the Signet.

Psyko

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Shinobi Empire [TSE]

burning speed... now theres a skill i thought id never use.

Just wanted to say thanks for cooking this up, nice work

yomom1919

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

does this work in hm?

Kamakazi112

Kamakazi112

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

W/

yeah it probably odes...sicne in HM they wont flee...just take a hell of a long itme to do

yomom1919

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Is there any substitute for glyph of swiftness? I dont have eotn...

Murmel

Murmel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Land of Confusion

[swea]

W/

Quote:
Is there any substitute for [Glyph of Swiftness]?


Unfortunately, I don't think there is >.>

Quote:
[Nightow]
Essence of celerity. He doesn't have GW:EN

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by yomom1919
Is there any substitute for glyph of swiftness? I dont have eotn... Essence of celerity. Buy them from players or have a guildie make a few for you.

Fragile Feeling

Fragile Feeling

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

Im working on setting up a perma sin for this and I was just wondering, what weapons would be the best to do this build? I've heard Rago's Flame Staff, but i would just like a confirmed answer.

Thanks
~Fragile

EDIT: and also if anyone could post the usual price of the item

AOD_EaSyKiLL

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Angels of Death

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragile Feeling
Im working on setting up a perma sin for this and I was just wondering, what weapons would be the best to do this build? I've heard Rago's Flame Staff, but i would just like a confirmed answer.

Thanks
~Fragile

EDIT: and also if anyone could post the usual price of the item +5 eng 20% enchant spear and 20/20 offhand or +eng offhand

Qwertyfied

Qwertyfied

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ireland

DVDF

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cerb
I don't have an assassin and I don't need help farming Chaos Plains post-patch, I'd just like to know how Mindflay Spectre spawns work Works the exact same way as before, 3,6,9. Did a guild UW clear.

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwertyfied
Works the exact same way as before, 3,6,9. Did a guild UW clear. Which Banished Dream Rider has been turned into a Cursed?

Feanixxx

Feanixxx

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by cerb
Which Banished Dream Rider has been turned into a Cursed? Several tho I can't give a full answer as I only did a partial quick run to test the build. The Rider near the Bone Pits is now a Cursed and the one from there to the Monument is also Cursed.

BruskoKariskoff

BruskoKariskoff

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Rogue Dragons [TRD]

W/Mo

I've tried this is HM, graspings scatter from burning, as do aatxe's.

Also, you can avoid killing the cursed guys for those wondering how you get passed them. just run till you break aggro from them.

masta_yoda

masta_yoda

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2007

most hated players in the [game]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Murmel
Unfortunately, I don't think there is >.>



He doesn't have GW:EN
he can buy it from other players and still use it..

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feanixxx
I suspect this is the wrong thread, Cerb - no Permie-Sin is going to take them on or their first spawn will kill with the Signet. Do it at the end of the run? o.O

And have there been no UW clears since the update?

evenfall

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by cerb
Which Banished Dream Rider has been turned into a Cursed? Four Banished Dream Rider are turned to cursed. One near the bone pits, one near the spawning pools, and the ones on either side of the monument.

Persian Daddy

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2008

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by cerb
Which Banished Dream Rider has been turned into a Cursed? well the pull is now 3 1 1
at the entrance, cursed rider to the left, curseds on either side of grenth statue, and cursed near dryders at the end of the run

edit didnt see above me, oh well

also guys, what are your average ectos total for the run?

DeviantTeknique

DeviantTeknique

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Archons Ascendant

Mo/

average for me has been 2.5, but tbh I haven't really been doing it much

I edited the OP with all the ideas for the 8th skill, keep em coming and sorry if I missed any

warriorsmiley

warriorsmiley

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Vandal Hearts [VH]

W/

I've been working on getting FOW armor for my warrior and ive been doing it duo with my guildie but now since hes farming uw with his rit i started doing it with my sin. Besides the bad behemoths spawns which seems to be every other run i average about 2-4 ectos per 2 runs most post patch has been 6. I myself had to sub out lava font for dash since the casting for burning speed usually allows the darkness to get to me.

Even with bad behemoths spawn and wasting 1k I still come out of UW with more money then I had. Only down side about it is they die at the same exact time leading to less drops but i still get about 2+ golds a run(mostly merchant food but some of them were worth keeping to give to hero's).

English Warrior

English Warrior

LEET HAXXOR!

Join Date: Feb 2007

Random Arena

N/A

dieing at the same time doesnt effect ecto drops FYI

CE Devilman

CE Devilman

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

hell

Do U Trust Anet

N/Mo

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King Sasuke

King Sasuke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

A/E

Hey why do i always run out of energy when im trying to kill the Graspings? I have 74 energy but when they are about dead i have like 5 energy and cant recast Shadow Form So any help would be great!

Nittle Grasper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Sasuke
Hey why do i always run out of energy when im trying to kill the Graspings? I have 74 energy but when they are about dead i have like 5 energy and cant recast Shadow Form So any help would be great! [fear me] is your problem simply use a caster+shield to keep your energy low and then switch to high when not fighting them, have fun farming ectos.

King Sasuke

King Sasuke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nittle Grasper
[fear me] is your problem simply use a caster+shield to keep your energy low and then switch to high when not fighting them, have fun farming ectos. eh im sorry but i dont understand why would i want to make my energy lower?

Scarn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

He means for you to use energy hiding. They can't sap energy that doesn't exist at the time.

King Sasuke

King Sasuke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

A/E

Oh okay that makes since hope it works

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by English Warrior
dieing at the same time doesnt effect ecto drops FYI Can someone provide a link where the developers say they removed the old anti-bot farming code that was targeted at 55 bots.

The only thing I have been able to find was where they mentioned how drops steadly got worse the more you went into an area and how this was replaced with loot scaling.

I really wish ANET would tell that "ALL" anti-farming code was removed.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by R.Shayne
Can someone provide a link where the developers say they removed the old anti-bot farming code that was targeted at 55 bots.

The only thing I have been able to find was where they mentioned how drops steadly got worse the more you went into an area and how this was replaced with loot scaling.

I really wish ANET would tell that "ALL" anti-farming code was removed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile View Post
oles, I don't understand. This, from our Dev Update of April 20:

People who periodically enjoy farming solo (with no heroes or henchmen) but are casual about it are also likely to see an improvement. They'll find that solo farming is much easier than it was before, because monsters don't have the anti-farming AI that they used to have, and because the game no longer prevents players from repeatedly farming the same monsters over and over. Many types of builds that didn't work in the past, or that haven't been effective since the earliest days of Guild Wars, can now be used for solo farming. Thus, casual farmers will find the game much easier to farm than it was before, and that they can earn more money than before even with loot scaling in place.

Are you saying that the above is not true? You state numbers as if you have established proof of the existence of anti-farming code, and yet I would like to know if that is over a large base of research or is that anecdotal? I'm interested in whether you think that the statements above are inaccurate or written unclearly. Like that. its in this thread here-
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/showthread.php?p=4887491 post #8

Enethyl Nagiwe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by warriorsmiley
Even with bad behemoths spawn and wasting 1k I still come out of UW with more money then I had. Only down side about it is they die at the same exact time leading to less drops but i still get about 2+ golds a run(mostly merchant food but some of them were worth keeping to give to hero's). You can get past them if you take deaths charge as 8th skill. Just put up Armor of mist and burning speed and teleport to the last one. You'll get hit but won't die.

King Sasuke

King Sasuke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

A/E

Ok i need more help i can get to the Behemoths but when i put on Burning speed and go past i still get hit and bleed to death any help?

DeviantTeknique

DeviantTeknique

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Archons Ascendant

Mo/

OP has been updated with some minor new info, including the most effective killing order (that i've found) for those that haven't figured it out yet.

New time record=20 minutes including run to plains.

King Sasuke

King Sasuke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

A/E

Here's a Video of the run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWXXE...eature=related

Not by me

MisterT69

MisterT69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Sasuke
Here's a Video of the run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWXXE...eature=related

Not by me that's a video of a pre-nerf farm btw. Not really effective anymore. He's got [mark of rodgort][flame djinn's haste] and [inferno] as his primary damage dealers all w/50% less dmg while in SF. And MoR won't workon mindblades anymore :/

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

I think the idea was just to show the run to the Plains, the killing is pretty easy.

~A Leprechuan~

b3rt_d4ni3l

b3rt_d4ni3l

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/Rt

What do you guys bring, weapon-wise?
Any specific weapons that you need to bring other than the 20% enchant?

furanshisuko

furanshisuko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

R/

omg this is great !

/hug , to op

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Anyone whose having trouble with behemoth spawns:

[skill]Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support[/skill]

Rank doesn't matter, you just summon him to trip a bad trap spawn, and then pass by safely yourself.

King Sasuke

King Sasuke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
I think the idea was just to show the run to the Plains, the killing is pretty easy.

~A Leprechuan~ Ya like he said its to show the run since some people(including me) didnt know the run.

King Sasuke

King Sasuke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

A/E

Ok i need help with the Charged Blackneses they like come out of no where when i get to the first Behemoths and usually are right at the entrance of the Chaos planes and i think they are the same group so what do i do?

Nestaron

Nestaron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Glasgow, Scotland

Banished Dragons

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Sasuke
Ok i need help with the Charged Blackneses they like come out of no where when i get to the first Behemoths and usually are right at the entrance of the Chaos planes and i think they are the same group so what do i do? The first group of Charged Blackness you meet are the ones that come down the hill. All you need todo is wait and they'll go back up... Soon as they go just run for it. If you're getting charged blcknesses blocking the enterance to the plains it means you're taking too long to get up the mountain.


How to run to the plains -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i-wgUBQZbA