Did you ever give access to your account to anyone?

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Nope, I won't take any risk.

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

Yes, I have. I have nothing to lose by doing so - and that's saying something when you've got a full set of torm weapons, few sets of FoW, other expensive things, and depending on the occasion, stacks of ecto lying around. If I get screwed by a friend, that's just too damn bad, but I don't imagine them ever doing that to me. Almost 10 people have received my account information and I trust them limitlessly with it. They've never shown malicious intent, so if it can help me or them by having the info, have at it xD. I just don't care if my ectos all disappeared... so what. The cat's out of the bag and they lost my friendship.

I've also let my friends borrow minipets worth 1000+ ecto. Does that mean I'm too trusting? XD.

Phineas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

In a word, 'No'. I got stung by a 'friend' in another online rpg and feel that learning the hard way sucked hard enough the first time to bother again.

Wanda X

Wanda X

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

Texas

Summer of [LOVE]

Rt/

the only one I would trust enough with that would never log in as me.. which is prolly why I would trust her with that...

papryk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nancy

The Autonomy[?????????]

yes...to a friend and my GF.

fireflyry

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

Just my Guild leader, after a year or so, who I've known since the first week I started playing as I totally trust her, associate on the net outside of GW since meeting there, and we have almost polar opposite tastes in mains hence have fun swapping accounts to try maxed out classes neither of us would usually play.

From reading the posts here so far it seems to boil down to personal definitions of trust combined with how much import you place on your account in terms of a worst case scenario.

Interesting to read others thoughts.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Ok, time to update now, we're at 76 responses (until message #86). Note that numbers are rough estimates, because it's hard to guess the information from natural language descriptions . The average number and motivations are not very accurate due to lack of information. The situation of multiple accounts is not represented correctly here (and I've put girl/boyfriends in family ;P). Take these numbers with at least two teaspoons of salt!

The who?
1) Absolutely not: 28 (36.8%)
2) No but I considered it: 6 (7.9%)
3) I refused access given by to others to their account: 2 (2.6%)
4) To close friends that I trust: 28 (36.8%)
5) To people I know in person: 11 (14.4%)
6) To family members: 15 (19.7%)
7) To someone I met in game: 4 (5.2%)
8) I also have access to other people's account: 14 (18.4%)
9) I don't care who accesses my account: 0 (0%)

Average number of other people that can access acount:
86/76 = 1.13

Motivations (the why?):
1) To check something for me: 1 (1.3%)
2) Shared account: 2 (2.6%)
3) To increase one of my title or play the game for me: 7 (9.2%)
4) For special events: 1 (1.3%)
5) To try the game in order to decide if I should buy it: 4 (5.2%)
6) For storage: 1 (1.3%)
7) Just because I trust them (or they trust me): 10 (13.1%)
8) Someone gave me their account: 1 (1.3%)
9) Only for a particular event or situation: 8 (10.5%)
10) For playing the game with different maxed characters: 1 (1.3%)

I'll let people continue to provide information before discussing the issue at the core of this thread. Thanks to everyone for contributing.

Courage!

Courage!

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

Australia

Mo/

no but a good friend let me lend there account while i got a ban

kratimas

kratimas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Order of the Setting Sun

R/

Nope, never have -- never will.

Stoeffer

Stoeffer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2008

Its All For Teh [LuLz]

D/

I've given my info to two people. My girlfriend and another friend I ask to do things for me when I'm not there.

I've known people that give out there info and later get GANKED by having their characters deleted....so, I tend to not just hand out my stuff.

FalconDance

FalconDance

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

...deep within the sylvan splendor...

Order of the Migrating Coconuts [ALBA]

Husband (and he's forgotten the pass) and son. No one else. No one else needs it for any reason, so why chance it? Hell, I don't even use PlayNC for reports anymore because I don't/can't trust them!

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Just my lassie, but no one else.

PlasticBlue

PlasticBlue

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Middelburg

The Sneezing Dragons

E/

I let my ex boyfriend play on it for a couple of days, to check it out. Then he bought his own account.

Sparks Dawnbringer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Los Angeles

none

E/Mo

No! But, my brother could probably figure it out if he wanted to.

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

Nope, never.

idicious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Holland

LoD

P/W

My best RL friend who'm I've known for some 15 years, so I know I can trust 100%

Sergeant of Marines

Sergeant of Marines

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

Japan

[트두므s], Guild Leader

Mo/

I have given my stuff to 3 people who I can honestly say I trust.

The reason was for when I was deployed (3 times) to the middle east for such things like the dragon festival and such to get me hats and lucky points and such.

Kapral

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

[LOD]

R/

My girlfriend knows mine, I know hers.

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

Before I answer, isn't it against the EULA to have multiple users on one account?

fireflyry

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

Already covered but realistically it's impossible to police if your using the same computer or proxy and even then there are valid reasons....unless they have secret ninja spies....

*peeks out window*


I seriously doubt Anet will run in here and ban everyone who has stated that they shared details unless they are complete RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE.

If they did I'd stop playing and such rules are obviously pretty flexible and open to a bit of bending.For example banning every wife/husband or bf/gf shared account would obviously kick up a stink....wouldn't it?

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Only to my other personalities

Seriously though, I've never given it out nor will I ever do so.

super strokey

super strokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Soviet Canuckistan

N/

My bro, and then he bought it shortly afterward.

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

My bestest internet buddy holds a passcode to my account. When I ship out to basic, I want to know my account will still have its perfect hat record.

Ditto

Ditto

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

<Generic Location>

Yep, my boyfriend can access my GW account just like I can access his (and steal his dye..bwaahahaaaahaa....).

Other than that though, I can't think of anybody else I would ever let into my account.

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

I have not shared my login details with anyone yet.
But in case of a guild emergency I have two RL friends who also play the game who I would give the details without any doubt and one, maybe two guildies to whom I would also give them. Just in the unfortunate event that something happens while I would not be able to get online fast enough to solve things myself.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

I gave my account password to a friend. Asked him if he could pick me up a Dragon Mask because I was away that weekend. My ex-girlfriend had access to my GW account, as I had access to hers. Also, I had access to a friend's account - I kept excess gold and materials in her storage because she didn't play much.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

Only to the (*)#*_ * MALWARE that i can not seem to get rid of D&*) IT

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

poll.........?

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by the Puppeteer
poll.........?
Can't do, as I'm not a GWG subscriber.

I'd like to create a poll now that I've got a better idea of what should be in it, so if one of the GWG subscribers feel generous (though I don't want to break GWG rules ...). And we'll then be able to discuss the issue at heart.

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

NEVER.......4 k hrs invested no way....


although i have left AFK games on in the university...lcukiyl no one stole account

Zomgyogi

Zomgyogi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

In a park

I have my friends account but i didn't give him mine :P

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

I guess I won't be getting to many answers to the following question:

did you ever give access to someone so that they can power-level your characters? (i.e., play the game for you so that you don't have to do what you consider boring stuff, for example get to level 20 with all your heroes at level 20, or achieve 1 million+ gold)

Nick Of Troy

Nick Of Troy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

New Zealand.

Human Alliance [HA]

D/E

Ive never given out my account details to anyone, though i do have a friend (who I got into Guild Wars in the first place) whose details i have so i could get him a mask in last weekends Festival

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Never have, never will...under any circumstances.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Well, it seems that there won't be a poll on this topic, or any other discussion. So I'm going to publish the final "rough numbers" here and post a short discussion/links.

Number of answers: 97

The who?
1) Absolutely not: 36 (37.1%)
2) No but I considered it: 7 (7.2%)
3) I refused access given by to others to their account: 2 (2%)
4) To close friends that I trust: 34 (35%)
5) To people I know in person: 12 (12.3%)
6) To family members: 23 (23.7%)
7) To someone I met in game: 4 (4.1%)
8) I also have access to other people's account: 18 (18.5%)

Average number of other people that can access acount:
107/97 = 1.1

Motivations (the why?):
1) To check something for me: 2 (2%)
2) Shared account: 2 (2%)
3) To increase one of my title or play the game for me: 9 (9.3%)
4) For special events (e.g. festivals): 7 (7.2%)
5) To try the game in order to decide if I should buy it: 6 (6.2%)
6) For storage: 2 (2%)
7) Just because I trust them (or they trust me): 14 (14.4%)
8) Someone gave me their account: 1 (1%)
9) Only for a particular event or situation: 13 (13.4%)
10) For playing the game with different maxed characters: 1 (1%)
11) In order to be able to play while I was banned[I]: 1(1%)[/U]

Account sharing: a deliberate risk that should be avoided

What's important to understand with account sharing is that you basically give others your online identity (or they give you theirs). They entirely become you (or you become them), except that they are not. It's exactly like giving your credit card with its pin to someone else. They may not play as safely as you do, or may not know who to trust or not trust in your guild, alliance or friendlist for particular things. This creates a gap that can be exploited by malicious people to discover information about you, and ultimately your account login and password information.

Similarly, people giving you access to their account creates a responsibility on you (that you may or may not not want to assume) that can lead to real problems. It's a matter of trust, and do as you would like others to do for you.

While this is a risk that you can take when you know the person "fully well", it should not remove the need to check that they know what they're doing with the information you provided. Do they know about GW scams? Is the computer they're using secure? Will they themselve share your account information with anyone else? Of course, there's nothing fundalentally wrong with trusting your family members if you genuinely think you know them well, or on the contrary not sharing any personal information with anyone because of the potential risk.

Overall, it's your decision, but do not take it lightly. You can always share your account for a limited time, then change the password. Or share one account but not others if you have several accounts. A policy of never sharing is always a good policy (1/3 of people who answered in this thread), as the Internet generally requires people to be cautious (but not paranoid) in all circumstances. But depending on your life/play-style, this can have some consequences.

The final thought I want to convey with this thread is this: just imagine that people who play the game are connected via multilple links (because they're in the same guild, alliance, friendlist, they know each other outside of the game or in real life, they' know each other on GW Guru, etc.); information go through these links all the time, but imagine the flow of your personal information (real name, login, password, email address) in this network; you may give access to your account to someone who will talk while doing some GW activity, thus propagating information along the link without realising, and this information may be used to get more information about you; may be several pieces of information will end up with a malicious person who will then try to get access to your account, possibly by hacking your computer if he managed to get your IP address (say, if someone installed a pirated software? this is a rare case, but yet it happens).

This is NOT a call for paranoia, for refusing to disclose information to anyone, not even your family and friends, or for having more distrust of GW players in general. But the risk is very real, though you may not see it. Just act according to the information you know, and always ask in order to know more. Play it safe by limiting as much as possible the number of people you give access to your account to (it's never a good idea to share with several people at the same time).

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
I guess I won't be getting to many answers to the following question:

did you ever give access to someone so that they can power-level your characters? (i.e., play the game for you so that you don't have to do what you consider boring stuff, for example get to level 20 with all your heroes at level 20, or achieve 1 million+ gold)
Here's an answer

No, never gave it for that.

Yet.

However, I considered the option of giving the info to a friend so he could do Polymock for me (I HATE POLYMOCK, seriously...). But it feels awkward getting something achieved for me so I haven't bothered with asking him.

I've had someone's account to get an event hat, forgot the info though...

Kyomi Tachibana

Kyomi Tachibana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Oregon, USA

Where iz teh Bonuz [WitB]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin
I guess I won't be getting to many answers to the following question:

did you ever give access to someone so that they can power-level your characters? (i.e., play the game for you so that you don't have to do what you consider boring stuff, for example get to level 20 with all your heroes at level 20, or achieve 1 million+ gold)
Nope. Not yet at least.

I'm dreading having to do the Remains of Salahajha or whatever for my carto title, and I know a very good friend of mine that's excellent at it, I may ask him to do it for me when he as the time, again, just maybe, if I find I haven't gained any skill after a few tries.

faf

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Wolf Demon Tribe [WOLF]

W/E

I never did, my friend yes though. He found his account with all characters deleted and his storage emptied next day.

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

Yes. 2 of my guildies and close friends. I did Polymock for a couple of people, and to show they could trust me, they went on my account and made ugly characters. We then did a run of some instance with each other's whacky interfaces and characters. Was fun Inspired my friend to make a Monk.

Edit: Kusandaa: I'll still do it for yuo sometime if you want ;D

Don Doggy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

I have never given my account information to others and I don't intend to.