Admit it guys..its time. Have you ever scammed?

a893429

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

I have. I'll admit it.


Have you? :O

Deathly_Overlord

Deathly_Overlord

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

A house :)

LaZy!

Mo/

Edit: No sleep sucks, thought it said " Have you ever been scammed ".

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Nope.
But I do seize the opportunity when players screw themselves.

Tatile

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

No, not that I know of anyway. I try not to be an arse to anyone if I can help. A little jibe here and there, such as 'Now you can get a job and buy yourself a pen.' but that's it.

I'm quite a quiet person to be honest.

englitdaudelin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

East Coast

Soldier's Union [SU]

N/Me

What Upier said. I think this will be a quiet thread.
What d'ya mean by "Scam?" Do you mean quite deliberately offering one item, then swapping it for another? Changing bids to amounts in gold, not plat? Asking for people to drop items on ground, swiping, and bailing? I would hope the numbers of "yes" responses would be small...and not because of ... under-reporting.

Anyway, I've bought items for far less than their market value, and then resold. That's 'bout it.

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

Define scamming.

If you mean taking advantage of a person that's acting like a total morron and has only himself to blame, then yes.

If you mean going out of my way to scam people, then no.

Mad King Corn

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

No, I have been scammed and know how it feels. Last night a guild member was scammed on a desert run, she reported it with screenshots etc. Don't do unto others that you would not want others doing to you!

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

No. Never have, never will. It is important to remember that there are other people on the other end of the modem, treat others as you want to be treated and such.

Lawrence Chang

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

United States

[SOHE]

W/

Ive tried to sell things for more than its worth, if that counts, then yes.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

I once left without paying for a mission run (the one where you have to carry crystals in the Crystal desert, Elona reach or something) but that is all and that was when I first started playing. That was the only time.

1 up and 2 down

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

Nope, I have never scammed anyone.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

No but I was scammed from a run I did.

Lady Ana Stacia

Lady Ana Stacia

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Germany

Beware of our Temper [BooT]

Me/

Kinda, was buying a sword for my husband from an in game friend. He didn't know the value I told him what it was worth and ended up being wrong and shortchanging him by 40k. Immediately let him know tho and he wouldn't take the 40k I offered for the mistake!

FXCW

FXCW

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

London,UK

Passionate Kiss of Nosferatu

R/

I have never scammed, but I have been paid more than the asking price on one occasion. The other party was kind enough not to ask for a refund, not that I would have given one ;P

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Depends on what's considered "a scam" or not. There was a recent thread here debating whether buying underpriced items with the knowledge that you were buying it cheap was a scam or not.

That said, no I've never "scammed" anyone nor performed the above.

KycooGhost

KycooGhost

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Children of Legends [LGND]

E/

Never scammed. never will be and will never do it. its not good economically to scam.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

/in befor lock
No, i just tell people there stuff is worth alot less than they think, 10k for r9 emerald blade is nice.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

never done it, and the merchant and my heroes never do it to me....so nope

Hiotoko

Hiotoko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

No, I was scammed fairly early on in the game and it really stuck with me. I generally try to go out of my way and do the opposite, for example if someone messes up a trade in my favour I correct it. I try to do my part in balancing the...less than nice side of the community.

Shakti

Shakti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Home...

Vier Reiter [Vier]

Nope. Never scammed anyone, why bother? It's quite easy to "succeed" in gw without hurting anyone else's play time.

I did make an honest mistake once, putting 1 of a stacking item in trade when I was selling 7 of it. Guy hit accept without noticing either. However, a minute later he did notice and pmed me. I immediately said oh crap sorry! and put the other 6 up. He was amazed I'd give him the rest. Was a no brainer to me...my mistake, of course I rectified it.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

If buying stacks of sweets at 130g per point during festival events and reselling 190g per point counts...

Otherwise no.

Smilin' Assassin

Smilin' Assassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Cantha

Pixies O Wickid Nawtyness [pixy]

A/Me

no. Not Evar~!
the only times that came close are when I sell something for wayy over it's worth, and that's out of mutual ignorance ~ and ofc has worked against my favour too, lotsa times~!

.. in fact if I someone has accidentally offered me too much in a trade I tell em, and on those occasions I didn't notice until after, I offer to refund the difference
soo .. I am poor ~ well not really, gold is easy enough to get by just playing .. but karma pays off, and have been gifted with lotsa nice stuffs by peeps

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

No .

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

i see no reason to scam anyone in a game where gear means nothing.

Kahlindra

Kahlindra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Anthems to the Welkin at [Dusk]. 2 man guilds are king.

N/Me

That would mean interacting more *shudders*

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Nope, never scammed.

Got scammed only a few times, when I wasn't careful or didn't get paid for runs I did.

Be careful and you'll never get scammed.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

Never got scammed or attempted to scam anyone. Some tried to scam me a few times but it didn't work.

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

once and only once, back when i though 5k was enough to buy you everything in the game with leftovers. On a droks run paying at droks. Along the way i added everyone to my ignore list then just logged off when we got there. If the person i scammed asked me for his money today and i belived him id probably triple it.

That said i felt like shit after it.

Peachie

Peachie

Closed

Join Date: Nov 2005

England

The Peachatorium [hugs]

Mo/Me

No, there's no need.

I was getting a droks run ages ago and got disconnected just as we reached Rankor. After getting back on I managed to talk to the runner who must have thought I'd just left without paying. He was in the middle of another run, but I waited around in Rankor and gave him his money when he arrived.

Puzur

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Clan Wolfsbane

P/W

No, when I first started to play the game about 2 years ago a complete stranger just gave me a gold q:9 shield in ascalon city and that inspired me to start my guild that was devoted to helping other new players in the game so scamming have never been anything natural to me.

DRGN

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In Memorium [iBot]

Mo/A

Aside from that one time with the whole candy and the van thing, no.

Aeon221

Aeon221

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

[TEW]

N/

Fiery Flame Spitters, musta pulled in a couple hundred k before I got disgusted and stopped. Not with myself, mind, but with the people so ignorant that they couldn't be bothered to google the item for two seconds and realize how easy it is to get.

Had a friend who pulled in a cool mil doing that before the market was saturated. That was a long time ago.

I've also falled asleep during runs and not paid, or went for a snack or some such, but I figure that's balanced by all the times I've been scammed on runs -- kinda like carbon offsets. And I've definitely been scammed during runs way more often than I've failed to pay up.

Oh and Althea's Ashes waaaaaay back in the day, but that doesn't really count. I'd buy em in bulk for like 100g and sell em for ten times that.

All of that experience in selling people on superfluous stuff has come in handy at my current job. Woo!

edit: Oh, and I started the game getting scammed. A dude sold me a shitty Raven staff for literally everything I had besides my armor just after I got out of pre. So, you know, do unto others.

rick1027

rick1027

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/R

scam someone no there are other people on the other side.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by moriz
i see no reason to scam anyone in a game where gear means nothing.
Part of the problem is that many people do hold gear to mean something.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aeon221
So, you know, do unto others.
That's not much of a good reason...

Unless you prefer to be scammed constantly, of course.

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

No
I even be honest with people if they dont show the right money....
But its always only like less than a 10k difference anyways they just do the math wrong =p

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Hell yeah I've scammed people.

I get a kick out of screwing people over, try it sometime.

Widowmaker

Widowmaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/

Never tried to swap items, sell something as something else or change gold amounts etc. I've only ever had runs from Kamadan to the docks and then to LA and I've always paid the amount asked or more if they were friendly and quick.

As to scamming runners, if you need to scam someone the 1-2k for the average run then you have bigger issues.

If people want to count asking people to set their own price for an item and paying what they ask as scamming then that is up to you.

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

I've never outright scammed someone else, but I have done the common market practice of buying undervalued items and reselling them at a 200% profit.

However, I believe it comes back to bite me all the time. I am always getting blatantly scammed from others. Just last week a "friend" took off with 99 ectos. Just shows how much you really know about people.

On a side note. I have scammed runners before. But only under certain circumstances.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Me: WTB 10 Onyx Gemstones
Other Person: 10 Onyx for 8k
Me: They're worth less than 700 gold each. (truthfully, they were worth 950)
Other Person: Oh...
Other Person: 18 Onyx for 8k Fair?

You'd be surprised how far we were from the Rare Material Trader in Lion's Arch.

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Widowmaker
As to scamming runners, if you need to scam someone the 1-2k for the average run then you have bigger issues.
Bad logic.

A droks run (when I was new and got them) were like 6k. And throughout the game there's about five major runs you can get. la, droks, through the jungle, sanctum cay, and desert. If each one costs like 3-6k, and you get those all ran on say 4 different characters you're talking about a relatively hefty amount of money that you can save by scamming people if you choose to do so.