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Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

07 Jul 2008 at 13:53 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riken Chrono
hell yea i've scammed. i didnt pay for about 90% of my runs and i've saved hundreds and hundreds. i'm damn proud of it too. I've tried like selilng scams with the shadow step thing and i've succeded about 4 times. i love scamming people, it's so fun and gets me pumped! I actually scam about once or twice a day, not paying for runs, etc

Best sort of scam thing but wasn't really a scam, i was buying 25 ectos but the guy put up 250 by accident so i got 250 ectos for like 80k lol. if you guys seriuosly were about to get 225 free ectos, you're full of shit if you say you would tell the guy.

Lordy.
You sir, are on the long road to oblivion.
As in life, there's certain behaviours one shouldn't try...and decieving another for your own gain is one of them...want to know why?
KARMA.
As in life...games have a thing called 'digital karma.'
It will come back and bite you some day.
If this is how you live, and interact with people..you will lose the oportunity to be around decent folks...and be surrounded by those that feel the SAME way as you.
Yall will be scamming the shorts off of each other in a game (and life) while the rest of us are having fun playing a game, and socializing.

Oh yeah..OT:
NO, I would not, could not scam anyone..because I certainly wouldn't want to be scammed.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

07 Jul 2008 at 13:55 - 122

No, I have never scammed. I've bought items for less than I believe that I could resell the items for, but I don't consider that scamming as the other person was fully aware of the amount they were getting for the trade.

TwinRaven

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

07 Jul 2008 at 14:23 - 123

Have I ever scammed? No. QUite the contrary, I tend to help folks out and cut prices if they can't afford something, tip high for speedy runs, give things away for free and tell people when they could get a better price for what thet are asking...scamming is just another example of how ANONYMITY+INTERNET=ASSHOLE

Funk ee Monk ee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Legendary Adventurers Guild [LAG]

07 Jul 2008 at 14:57 - 124

To me "scamming" has nothing to do with an item's "worth". If I ask 100k for an item someone thinks is worth only 10k that is NOT a scam. Just do not buy from me. If I agree to buy something for 100k but instead offer 100g that IS a scam, attempting to deceive someone out of their gold/item/etc.

And no, I have never scammed. I once bought 80 lockpicks for 100g by accident, pm'd the guy and gave him the other 99,900 before he noticed it.

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

07 Jul 2008 at 15:49 - 125

If you count buying stuff lower than their "supposed true value", then yes. But the amounts aren't ever that magnificent.

Kamakazi112

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

W/

07 Jul 2008 at 16:22 - 126

Well not really scammed but the stupidity of the GW community is quite funny. Twice it happened to me that they would pay me for my item in the first trade and in the second trade i would give them their item. Was selling a Q9 Obsidian Blade at the time so i got 100k+125e.

korcan

noobalicious

Join Date: Jun 2006

07 Jul 2008 at 17:22 - 127

If reselling items for more than they're worth is considered spamming, then yes, I have scammed.

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

07 Jul 2008 at 17:28 - 128

I never have tried to scam anyone, or even think about it.
That being said, if someone was selling a stack of ectos for 1k each, I'd buy them all in a heartbeat and not tell them that they're losing money.

puffzilla

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Black Hand Gang [BHG]

W/

07 Jul 2008 at 18:10 - 129

Only time I ever felt like I was scamming ish... was when I was solo farming the ghials staff at like 90k down to 25k days. I could easily get 4 a night. I just kept telling people the guild was farming them and I'd let them know when we got another to sell. Ain...

But never tried to traded someone 100g instead of 100k or anything of the sort.

I've bought stuff truly underpriced only if I really wanted them otherwise I normally tell them they should look up the price.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

07 Jul 2008 at 22:49 - 130

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jennie

Its stuff like this that really makes the world a whole lot sadder to live in. Whether its online or off. There are real ppl behind those pixels.

It's not like I'd ever rob a bank or embezzle in real life. I'm sure whoever I took 50k away from in Guild Wars will eventually get over it, and those people probably have quit the game by now.

hurdlebeast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo-Smashing Beast; Mo-Monk Beast

E/Me

07 Jul 2008 at 23:09 - 131

I remember once i sold a sword (it was a low level one, about 10kish in price) and i eventually sold it to a noob in Old Ascalon. Long story short, he traded me two mini's for it, then gave me 5k extra and asked me if i could "hold onto the sword and the money so he could get it on a different account." I could've walked away with the sword, two mini's, and 5k profit, but i waited for him to switch chars/accounts, and gave him his gold/sword.

Is it scamming to take advantage of other player's blatent stupidity? I don't think so. I don't do it anyways, because I've made mistakes too when trading...just not ones that stupid.

Edit: just remembered, it was a Draconic Scythe I was trading.

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

07 Jul 2008 at 23:29 - 132

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanyatta

It's not like I'd ever rob a bank or embezzle in real life. I'm sure whoever I took 50k away from in Guild Wars will eventually get over it, and those people probably have quit the game by now.

Sure. You won't rob a bank or embezzle in real life. There are actual consequences for that in the real world.

However, I would bet dollars to donuts that you wouldn't hesitate in taking money out of a wallet you found laying on the street. I would expect that you wouldn't hesitate in keeping the extra $5 that the cashier accidentally gave to you but you noticed...

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

08 Jul 2008 at 00:14 - 133

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

Sure. You won't rob a bank or embezzle in real life. There are actual consequences for that in the real world.

However, I would bet dollars to donuts that you wouldn't hesitate in taking money out of a wallet you found laying on the street. I would expect that you wouldn't hesitate in keeping the extra $5 that the cashier accidentally gave to you but you noticed...

1. I work at a theater, and find money on the ground all the time. Although I've never found more than $5 at once, but the general rule of thumb for all employees is, if it's $10 or less, it's yours, if it's more, lost & found". I also find wallets, palm pilots, credit cards, etc. twice a day at least. I always take them to the lost & found, and I've never taken money out of wallets or anything I've found. The only item of "value" I've found on the ground and kept was a pocketknife.

2. I was at Arby's last week and the cashier screwed up and gave me $10.22 (or whatever) change instead of $1.22, and I pointed out the mistake, because I know if his till was off by $9 at the end of the night he probably would have been in a bit of trouble with management.

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

08 Jul 2008 at 00:27 - 134

So how do you justify your actions? Why the discrepancy?

What in your mind makes you "do the right thing" in the real world yet you turn a blind eye when playing a game?

Yang Whirlwind

~ Retired ~

Join Date: Nov 2005

Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1)

E/

08 Jul 2008 at 00:32 - 135

The closest I have ever been and ever will get is accepting trades where the seller was offering to sell cheaper than the items actual worth.
I have on occasion sold items myself, only to later find out I had sold them way too cheap, so that goes both ways! Never felt cheated by anyone but myself when that has happened.

Telling someone they are selling too cheap before the trade - is very kind!

Telling someone they sold too cheap after the trade - is sadistic!

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

08 Jul 2008 at 00:34 - 136

No i haven't.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

08 Jul 2008 at 00:35 - 137

Yes, 1 month into playing. It was petty and retarded. Oh well.

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

08 Jul 2008 at 01:11 - 138

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

Sure. You won't rob a bank or embezzle in real life. There are actual consequences for that in the real world.

However, I would bet dollars to donuts that you wouldn't hesitate in taking money out of a wallet you found laying on the street. I would expect that you wouldn't hesitate in keeping the extra $5 that the cashier accidentally gave to you but you noticed...

You make the mistake in thinking I/we have the same morals as you.

I don't.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

08 Jul 2008 at 02:40 - 139

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

So how do you justify your actions? Why the discrepancy?

What in your mind makes you "do the right thing" in the real world yet you turn a blind eye when playing a game?

Because the real world has consequences and actually makes a difference in people's lives. The Intertubez are not serious business.

hurdlebeast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo-Smashing Beast; Mo-Monk Beast

E/Me

08 Jul 2008 at 04:32 - 140

Low and behold, about 1/2 hour ago a guy by the name of "Tyrael Swiftblade" tried to scam me out of 54k. was gonna sell a Shield of the Hierophant to him for 60k, he showed 60k, closed trade to "talk to a friend about it" then reopened with 6k showing. I asked him to show 60k, and he got scared, called me a noob, and fled.

My point being, it wasn't me scamming when he offered 10k more than my Obo price, but it was scamming when he tried to bait and switch me.

I didn't scam, he did. He got reported, too.

Widowmaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/

08 Jul 2008 at 04:33 - 141

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanyatta

Because the real world has consequences and actually makes a difference in people's lives. The Intertubez are not serious business.

I'd say treating people with respect and common decency is pretty serious business though. But I'll freely admit that is just my opinion.

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More on topic:

I wouldn't scam anybody, what have you really gained when you've done?

Well, aside from proving you're an asshat.

Riken Chrono

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

around the corner and up the block

Hero

08 Jul 2008 at 06:28 - 142

meh, i'm not a troll and i dont believe in karma. Ain't nothings gonna come back because of things i do in guild wars. i did convince some guy yesterday to sell me 1 minute alcohol's for 60 gold a piece though. pretty good deal.

yeaa i dont really care about other people's fun, just mine. i'm a self centered ass in guild wars and i'm proud.

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

08 Jul 2008 at 06:53 - 143

I have never scammed anybody. However, I did use to get minipets cheap from people who were willing to sell for "less than the normal price". Mini yeti and naga for like 100k+50e back in the day, resold for +80 each.

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

08 Jul 2008 at 06:55 - 144

No and you offend me by even implying that everyone scams but doesn't admit it.

Sparks Dawnbringer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Los Angeles

none

E/Mo

08 Jul 2008 at 07:13 - 145

Nope! Never! It's much more fun to play the game than cheat other players.

StarrTheInsane

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Stephenville, TX

D/W

08 Jul 2008 at 07:30 - 146

Only sneaky trade I've ever done wasn't to benefit me. I snuck some money into a trade with a guildie that wouldn't knowingly accept it. Waited for him to need a mod I just happened to have and thinking he was just accepting the mod, he got the money too.

The only time I've ever refused to pay someone for something was Gate of Madness. I needed the bonus and was having some trouble alone, and some people were offering to just run it. I even asked if that included the bonus (standing there in my primeval armor). Guy told me to wait at the beginning, did the mission and then at the end discussed with his team if they wanted to do the bonus. They all said no or that they didn't need it. I said "20k says do the bonus." They skipped it and then the guy opens trade with me in the outpost. "20k?" he says, and I say "bonus?" "No," he tells me. So I put 20g in the box. He canceled trade. WTF did he think I needed?

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

D/

08 Jul 2008 at 13:00 - 147

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtime102

I just been scammed by Anet. While I was sleeping they stole 3 stacks of victory tokens from my inventory. I dont know how they did it but they left some ugly masks in their place to mock me.

This post was awesome.

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

08 Jul 2008 at 13:20 - 148

Never. Had a couple of nice chances, though.

A long time ago, while buying my first sup vigor for 60k, I ended up trading some bones for that rune. Apparently the seller had more than 40k on him, and we didn't know about the 100k limit. Upon realising what happened, I promptly opened trade and offered the rune and he did the same with my bones. After dumping his gold into the storage and completing the trade, he said he thought I would log out and steal the rune. Lucky for him I'm not an idiot.

Also, when Nightfall came out and Elemental sword was THE sword to have a friend of mine got a req 9 one. Whispered me if I wanted to buy it for like 20k. Coming straight out of PvP he didn't know the thing had a value of 800k. Told him to put it up on GWG auctions. Eventually, he sold it for 850k.

I'll never see the point in scamming, stealing or even this "if they're not informed" hypocrisy.

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

08 Jul 2008 at 14:30 - 149

Never scammed.

Never been scammed.

In game and in RL.

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

08 Jul 2008 at 14:31 - 150

I am the kind of person who cannot scammed people, even if I do, I'll probably return stuffs to them the next day with ectos and gold and a long apology, yeah, I would not put myself thru that. Its dishonorable.

So if you have scammed anyone at all, I think its time to make amends

one of you might have scammed me! by putting 500g in the trade box when you should be putting 5k

owned up now! I demand interests.

vandevere

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Great State of Denial

W/Mo

08 Jul 2008 at 15:05 - 151

I've never scammed. I try to behave as well InGame as I do in RL...

GoodApollo1234

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ohio

R/

08 Jul 2008 at 15:27 - 152

I've scammed by accident before. On a few occasions when buying things for say.... X.5k, I've unwittingly payed X.005k and they've unwittingly accepted. I've always corrected myself and payed the rest afterward though.

I've been ACCUSED of scamming by tons of newbies who don't realize that you have to click "submit offer" before the other person can see it.... Morons...

hurdlebeast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo-Smashing Beast; Mo-Monk Beast

E/Me

08 Jul 2008 at 17:27 - 153

i think the biggest difference between scamming on purpose and making a mistake is what you do afterwards. if you put in 1k and 5 gold for a 1.5k item (i've done that before) you should make every attempt to fix the problem. if you purposely put in 5k instead of 50k, then it's scamming. scamming's bad, mmk?

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

R/

08 Jul 2008 at 18:26 - 154

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riken Chrono

yeaa i dont really care about other people's fun, just mine. i'm a self centered ass and i'm proud.

Fixed that for you.

Xunlai Guru Agent

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

08 Jul 2008 at 21:21 - 155

Around the time when Totem axes started to drop I was trying to sell a couple of those for a friend, the going price back then was 10k- 20k.

Anyways some guy offered me a "minipet" + 12k, the minipet happened to be a Kuunavang, I took it and never looked back, gave the 12k to my friend and kept the minipet (yes I never told him). >.>;;

Elia

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

France

08 Jul 2008 at 21:27 - 156

No I never scammed anyone.

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

08 Jul 2008 at 21:28 - 157

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xunlai Guru Agent

Around the time when Totem axes started to drop I was trying to sell a couple of those for a friend, the going price back then was 10k- 20k.

Anyways some guy offered me a "minipet" + 12k, the minipet happened to be a Kuunavang, I took it and never looked back, gave the 12k to my friend and kept the minipet (yes I never told him). >.>;;

Not really scamming he wanted cash not minipets.

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

08 Jul 2008 at 21:30 - 158

Never scammed anyone, sorry to burst your bubble but as others have said, not everyone scams.

jimme

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Netherlands

Mo/

08 Jul 2008 at 21:37 - 159

Quote:

Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

I am the kind of person who cannot scammed people, even if I do, I'll probably return stuffs to them the next day with ectos and gold and a long apology, yeah, I would not put myself thru that. Its dishonorable.

PLease scam me some time

<3

Anyway, I don't think I've ever scammed someone.

Riken Chrono

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

around the corner and up the block

Hero

09 Jul 2008 at 00:09 - 160

nah that correction was wrong actually, im a huge ass in guild wars but in real life i'm really nice most of the time. i havent scammed anyone in real life YET. its just that i dont care about people in guild wars, in real life i'm forced to.