Mat

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

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Poll says it all: Should the MAT be replayed?

Personally, I think the whole thing this month was stupid. Seriously, half the matches being 3v4 or not occurring at all. I've heard the argument that everyone got equally f*cked, but seriously, I don't understand how it was fair at all.

I feel that if it is not replayed, it really shows the lack of interest on Anet's part of supporting their games, even if they are close to dead, if not already.

the savage nornbear

the savage nornbear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2008

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Gogo replay! Being unfair for everyone doesn't mean its not unfair. 3v4 is not fair, and is a hollow victory anyways.

silavor

silavor

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Join Date: Oct 2007

Canada

Keepers Of Twilight

Yah, it needs to be redone. The lag, disconnects, random error= and code= messages that no one had seen before... and that's just on the American server. Apperently Euros had it worse off >.<

dilan155

dilan155

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Join Date: May 2007

living room

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voted yes
/signed
its ridiculous the amount of DCing, and its no really fair even if it was 4 vs 4 because they maybe missing a key player, so i think it should be replayed

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Should it? Yes.
Will it? Lol no.

Guillaume De Sonoma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

aFk

Me/Rt

I voted yes, but it won't happen.

around

around

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

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I Have Three Pennies [Pnny] - forever in my heart <3

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I have by now given up all hope of ANet doing a good job.

If it does get replayed I will eat my hat, and that's a promise.

fenix

fenix

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Anet won't do it, because that's the smart thing to do.

I voted yes anyhow.

cosyfiep

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are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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they redid that festival last year because of lagg why not the MAT???

so yeah sure.

Apok Omen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Commence Aggro [BaMf]

Mo/E

/signed

I don't care if Anet is working on GW2. If they aren't going to be paying attention to their current game, then how do they expect us to buy GW2? Even a ''we are sorry we screwed up'' will suffice...

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Should it? Yes.
Will it? Lol no.
Is Arkantos bad at PvE? Yes.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Is Arkantos bad at PvE? Yes.
Is Divine pissed at ANet for doing a bad job even though it was pretty predictable? Yes.

<3 u

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Yes, obviously. If they cant fix their server problems for the whole day (or whole month as its the third time now), then thats the minimum.

X Tigercat X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

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hb mat is gonna b pretty bad too cause of hb weekend

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Should it? Yes.
Will it? No.
more or less sums it up. Sucks for everyone that played (or rather, didnt get a chance to play because they never loaded) but it is not like Anet gives a lot of support for their ATs anyway ...

silavor

silavor

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Join Date: Oct 2007

Canada

Keepers Of Twilight

o.O Lol, I want to know who the 10 people are who voted no, and why they don't have the- er... 'guts' to post why they voted no. I don't suppose they're the 'winners' who simply didn't error= and code= enough? Just a thought.

Lykan

Lykan

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Join Date: May 2005

StP

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Should it? Yes.
Will it? Lol no.
Pretty much /thread right there.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

I agree it wasnt fair but few things are in GW these days.

I guess I'll /sign

crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by around
I have by now given up all hope of ANet doing a good job.

If it does get replayed I will eat my hat, and that's a promise.
Never say things like this, I remember the story of an english football (soccer) fan who was watching the game in a bar swore that his team would win, and if they didn't he'd cut off his, uh, you know what. So his team loses, he leaves, comes back, and SLICE!

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

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Quote:
Originally Posted by crazybanshee
Never say things like this, I remember the story of an english football (soccer) fan who was watching the game in a bar swore that his team would win, and if they didn't he'd cut off his, uh, you know what. So his team loses, he leaves, comes back, and SLICE!
Especially since lag spikes, disconnects and guild losses happened during last summer. Btw, 4th day and no answer from a.net, gz COMMUNITY MANAGER.

shoogi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Ray

of course it should but it won't happen. I highly doubt we'll even get any response from Anet to this, let alone an apology.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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I'm REALLY surprised by the amount of negative (as in attitude, not answers to the poll) responses to this.
Sure A.net has screwed up a LOT of things lately (balancing, GW:EN in general, lack of public relations), but...
a) its not a workday, the last time they had server issues it was a weekend and the same thing happened, nothing was really fixed till Monday. While it is upsetting, you can't be surprised that 10-15 people won't come in on their day off.

b) do you people honestly think a.net won't redo the MAT? The whole "that would make sense so of course A.net won't do it" arguement isn't exactly valid (by definition it is an illogical arguement). If they were willing to have a "dragon festival redux" event a year ago, I don't see why they won't redo the mat.

Oh, and yes the guy decided to have double HB weekend on a MAT weekend should also be fired (the game wide lag was bad enough, but this made things even worse).

Voted yes of course.
I'm surprised how many people have voted no. Probablly people who either a) did well in the xulai house and don't want to lose their keys b) did well in the Mats (really good accomplishment beating dced opponents) c) have no idea what we are talking about or d) are just trolling to screw up the results (my big problem with sardalaic polls)

If you voted no and have a valid reason to explain to me besides the selfish ones I just listed, we'd all like to hear it.

shoogi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Ray

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
If you voted no and have a valid reason to explain to me besides the selfish ones I just listed, we'd all like to hear it.
I bet all the people that voted no are pve'rs that go against any pvp related proposal because it's a pvp related proposal.

As to the rest of your post, it's not the lag we are complaining about. Lag happens, of course they didn't mean for that to happen. We are complaining that Anet doesn't even apologize for what happened.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Is Divine pissed at ANet for doing a bad job even though it was pretty predictable? Yes.

<3 u
Yes. I had sup at #2. If swiss games weren't messed up, they wouldn't have faced rawr until later probably and got further than top 8.

Doesn't mean you're not terrible at PvE though! Don't change the subject

BadAtTheGame

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
If you voted no and have a valid reason to explain to me besides the selfish ones I just listed, we'd all like to hear it.
i voted no because lulz gw lulz

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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Zero Mercy [zm]

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I got 100 reward points. I'm greedy. I voted no. :P

Tamuril elansar

Tamuril elansar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

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they should, i mean, they redid some pve festival over because of lag, than why not this?

or is this yet another sign that Anet is stupid?

RotteN

RotteN

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamuril elansar
or is this yet another sign that Anet is stupid?
No need to put that in a question, Anet is stupid.

Sai Rith

Sai Rith

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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THE MITCH IS BACK FOR GOLD

BTW~ I voted no. If anything, they should make August mAT earlier than normal.

Kanyatta

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sai Rith
BTW~ I voted no. If anything, they should make August mAT earlier than normal.
I would like to hear why that is.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

should they? yes
will they? no
did i /sign? obaby!

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

All the cool cats don't care about GW PvP.

/notsigned

X Tigercat X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sai Rith
THE MITCH IS BACK FOR GOLD

BTW~ I voted no. If anything, they should make August mAT earlier than normal.
Y giving people less time to get the qps wld be another dum desicion by anet. just do the simplest and most logical and redo it

bitchbar player

bitchbar player

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Join Date: Mar 2006

still lost

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I miss Andrew Patrick and i almost start missing gaile grey

JupiterStarWarrior

JupiterStarWarrior

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Join Date: Jun 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkOfStorms
If you voted no and have a valid reason to explain to me besides the selfish ones I just listed, we'd all like to hear it.
Well, I, like the minority, have voted against this. Although I may be skinned alive, or totally ignored, here is my reason (this may turn into reasons if I can think up of something else...):

ArenaNet and NCSoft are NOT responsible for disconnects during the tournaments. It says so in their rules. So, if one person gets disconnected during a match, that means the match continues to go on and not called, unless one team forfeits the match. Even if the disconnect is server-side, ArenaNet and NCSoft cannot be responsible for it. The players participating in the tournaments have agreed to those terms when they decided to play the game, even if they haven't read them. I know most of you people haven't read them because you're complaining about it!

As for the "Dragon Festival Redux" period, even though I'm glad they did it (I actually just got Factions around that time), they didn't HAVE to do it, either, but they did anyway.

Seriously, look at this page and scroll down to "Connectivity". It's about a third of the way down. You'll find the exact message:

Quote:
Due to the nature of computers and the Internet, ArenaNet is not responsible for the results of any disconnection or network problems experienced by players.
I honestly don't see how it can be any clearer than this. I honestly can't. So, no, it should not be replayed.

If you actually read through this, thank you for your time.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
Pretty much /thread right there.
I agree with this sentiment.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior
ArenaNet and NCSoft are NOT responsible for disconnects during the tournaments. It says so in their rules. So, if one person gets disconnected during a match, that means the match continues to go on and not called, unless one team forfeits the match. Even if the disconnect is server-side, ArenaNet and NCSoft cannot be responsible for it. The players participating in the tournaments have agreed to those terms when they decided to play the game, even if they haven't read them. I know most of you people haven't read them because you're complaining about it!
One person? How about entire teams? How about 15 disconnections on both sides? How about nobody connecting at all?

That is beyond stupidity, and there is no reason they shouldn't do a rollback. The least they could do is simply say something about the situation.

Tearz1993

Tearz1993

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Relentless Aggressors [rA]

R/Mo

I don't agree with JupiterStarWarrior because some matches, entire teams didn't load, and it wouldn't count as a win OR a loss. Some teams finished 2-1 (pd) after playing every swiss round.

Solas

Solas

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Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

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meh, For a proper tournament they really should do a redux.
/signed for fairness

if i get to repick for the xunui house then easily signed (modem failure so i couldnt make my pick).

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior

ArenaNet and NCSoft are NOT responsible for disconnects during the tournaments. It says so in their rules. So, if one person gets disconnected during a match, that means the match continues to go on and not called, unless one team forfeits the match. Even if the disconnect is server-side, ArenaNet and NCSoft cannot be responsible for it. The players participating in the tournaments have agreed to those terms when they decided to play the game, even if they haven't read them. I know most of you people haven't read them because you're complaining about it!

As for the "Dragon Festival Redux" period, even though I'm glad they did it (I actually just got Factions around that time), they didn't HAVE to do it, either, but they did anyway.
OK, so I see what you're saying, that dc's and error's are not liable to Anet. But, seeing as it was obviously server-side, what I would want at least is an explanation from Anet as to what happened.

Also, they did it for the Dragon Festival, they didn't HAVE to do it. So, why do PvE events get more support than PvP events?

Darkobra

Darkobra

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
So, why do PvE events get more support than PvP events?
Larger fanbase, catering to more customers and keeping the sheep happy to flock to GW2 when the time comes.