In relation to charging for running, I don't really see the point of it, it's a team effort to get to the end chest as none of you can do the run without the other.
Personally I rarely run PuG's anyway, I just run alliance teams instead, there's too many idiots that spoil the run for those who make the effort.
Farm Voltaic Spear ( chest in 5min )
Unreal Havoc
wi wah chan
i did about 100 runs now got a pyro and a vs R9 so im happy lol.
ill continue this run till it drops to far..
i want my chaos gloves~!!! lol
ciao, wi wah
ill continue this run till it drops to far..
i want my chaos gloves~!!! lol
ciao, wi wah
Xana Night
Well, they nerfed UA, so now the perma can't fail until the monks can heal him with HP. Now it's gonna be harder...Any ideas?.
X.
X.
A11Eur0
The idea is to not fail until the monks can heal him with HP. Maybe now the permas won't suck so bad because they now know they don't have that crutch.
What sucks is it screwed my friend's bogroot growth's dungeon run up...so he's pissed.
Anet really needs to stop messing with PvE. let us have our fun.
What sucks is it screwed my friend's bogroot growth's dungeon run up...so he's pissed.
Anet really needs to stop messing with PvE. let us have our fun.
ahbuh
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Originally Posted by Xana Night
Well, they nerfed UA, so now the perma can't fail until the monks can heal him with HP. Now it's gonna be harder...Any ideas?.
X. What nerf are you talking bout.
Edit: nvm, just found out when I logged in.
X. What nerf are you talking bout.
Edit: nvm, just found out when I logged in.
A11Eur0
UA has a range on the rez now....within compass range instead of across the whole instance.
Xana Night
No, its not compass, its the range of a skill, like other rez.
Unreal Havoc
Like UA matters? If the Assassin dies out of resurrection range just have the whole party die and you'll all be resurrected at the resurrection shrine. A little bit of DP isn't going to make that much difference. If it bothers you then bring some candy canes.
Dzjudz
If the sin fails the whole party can still die for a fresh start at the beacon. DP doesn't matter for the rest of the party, and if the sin can still do it with some DP, why not?
Edit: beaten
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Edit2, more importantly:
I just read from the update on guildwars.com:
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Edit: beaten
.Edit2, more importantly:
I just read from the update on guildwars.com:
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Unreal Havoc
My guild had no problems with the run so far post nerf, especially with killing Thommis (he just followed me as normal). It's still very doable, even if the Assassin dies and you all need to take one for the team to revive him.
Dzjudz
Reports ingame say that Thommis still pulls just fine.
Edit: did a couple of runs post-update. Still easily possible.
Edit: did a couple of runs post-update. Still easily possible.
gerg-nad
Second Updatetonight reported that Thomis will not pull to wall, not confirmed yet as I am not updating yet.
argh
"Shortened the distance that Justicar Thommis will chase fleeing characters in the Slaver's Exile dungeon."
ReZDoGG
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Originally Posted by argh
"Shortened the distance that Justicar Thommis will chase fleeing characters in the Slaver's Exile dungeon."
"Fleeing Characters".... I am sure he will still follow if you walk him back, instead of going full throttle towards wall. I've always done that anyways.
the Puppeteer
probably gonna get changed again
Unreal Havoc
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Originally Posted by gerg-nad
Second Updatetonight reported that Thomis will not pull to wall, not confirmed yet as I am not updating yet.
I have already confirmed that you can pull Thommis as normal.
N1ghtstalker
just need a good perma sin that won't die and you'll be fine
expected them to nerf the farm with those toucher ghosts popping up
expected them to nerf the farm with those toucher ghosts popping up
Aldawg Thanes
Just a quick idea, it looks like Anet is intent on nerfing this. Because of this run diamonds and onyx have gone way down in price. So in the future after Anet has nerfed this onyx and diamond prices will go back up, so you might want to stock up on them, then sell them back for a profit later, or even if they don't go back up in price at least you will be able to have some cheap destroyer weapons
okashii
I just tried it after the update, still works, in fact Thommis came back on his own to the wall <wanted to attack the eles that were casting on him>
and dont worry about the UA nerf, all you need is a safe running bar on your Sin
alcohol is teh key :P
and dont worry about the UA nerf, all you need is a safe running bar on your Sin
alcohol is teh key :P
Nightow
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldawg Thanes
Just a quick idea, it looks like Anet is intent on nerfing this. Because of this run diamonds and onyx have gone way down in price. So in the future after Anet has nerfed this onyx and diamond prices will go back up, so you might want to stock up on them, then sell them back for a profit later, or even if they don't go back up in price at least you will be able to have some cheap destroyer weapons
If anything, I think this has increased the cost of granite now. It was pretty close to 300g for 10 when I last checked.
chronozon
I guess the moral of the story here is to do as many runs as possible before any further updates roll out. Without UA, still possible; Thommis won't chase fleeing foes as far, still doable; obviously Anet is aiming at nerfing this very specific farm scheme, I won't be surprised if the next update comes out with "Justicar Thommis will not move further than his aggro circle at spawning time". Do it while you still can.
Dzjudz
Ah well, all we'll need then is the monk to be Mo/N with Consume Corpse / Necrotic Traversal and Rebirth / UA and the rest of the team to /suicide close to the wall.
gerg-nad
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Originally Posted by Dzjudz
Ah well, all we'll need then is the monk to be Mo/N with Consume Corpse / Necrotic Traversal and Rebirth / UA and the rest of the team to /suicide close to the wall.
With all the time and trouble to die and no wall to keep minions back is likely not worth the trouble. First the Sin would have to run in get some aggro to the wall and the team kill it. Then monk quickly NTs over and everyone else dies, either Vampiric or bring aggro over to the wall and die that way. Rebirth eveyone, then go in and kill the rest, which may be only Thomis, but still lots of monkey business.
You can get to Thomis with a normal team in NM in 14 minutes. I suscpect without the wall to protect you, in HM things would be very chancy and considerably longer. What I am suggesting, maybe were back to doing Slavers completely to Duncan.
You can get to Thomis with a normal team in NM in 14 minutes. I suscpect without the wall to protect you, in HM things would be very chancy and considerably longer. What I am suggesting, maybe were back to doing Slavers completely to Duncan.
lord_shar
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Originally Posted by gerg-nad
***SNIP***
You can get to Thomis with a normal team in NM in 14 minutes. I suscpect without the wall to protect you, in HM things would be very chancy and considerably longer. A cryway team can finish this run in roughly half the time under optimum conditions (good spike coordination, easy mob spawns, etc...). My elementalist/mesmer has had much faster farm runs accordingly.
You can get to Thomis with a normal team in NM in 14 minutes. I suscpect without the wall to protect you, in HM things would be very chancy and considerably longer. A cryway team can finish this run in roughly half the time under optimum conditions (good spike coordination, easy mob spawns, etc...). My elementalist/mesmer has had much faster farm runs accordingly.
kadz
Are somes of you are doing the run in HM ?
Donnerjack
Voltaic Spears drop from all of the Chest of the Slaver. Mine dropped in Selvetarm and Duncan. Plus I've gottena number of other rare drops. However I've done the complete dungeon over 100+ times.
I've farmed Thommis about 80+ times and only seen one VS drop and half a dozen Amethyst Eagis and a couple of various other rare drops such a couple of Pyroclastic axes etc...
My question is this: Do the odds of a drop decrease depending on the number of people running quest? For example, with so many people farming the hell out of Thommis would the drop rate for the items be decreasing?
I recall reading somewhere in the past that this is true. Is this the case?
Thanks everyone!
I've farmed Thommis about 80+ times and only seen one VS drop and half a dozen Amethyst Eagis and a couple of various other rare drops such a couple of Pyroclastic axes etc...
My question is this: Do the odds of a drop decrease depending on the number of people running quest? For example, with so many people farming the hell out of Thommis would the drop rate for the items be decreasing?
I recall reading somewhere in the past that this is true. Is this the case?
Thanks everyone!
gerg-nad
FYI...
Thomis will pull to the wall but generally takes a little more coaxing.
Consequence of Sin dying is only real consequence, UA nerf
However the popularity has dimished significantly.
After going numerous times with SH and Crier teams not convinced one is better than the other, base on time. Have had 2-3 minute runs with either, it all depends on the group, the spawn, and how the group pulls.
Thomis will pull to the wall but generally takes a little more coaxing.
Consequence of Sin dying is only real consequence, UA nerf
However the popularity has dimished significantly.
After going numerous times with SH and Crier teams not convinced one is better than the other, base on time. Have had 2-3 minute runs with either, it all depends on the group, the spawn, and how the group pulls.
lord_shar
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Originally Posted by kadz
Are somes of you are doing the run in HM ?
I do all VS-runs in HM... after all, why get only one chest drop when you can get two?
Dzjudz
Quote:
Originally Posted by kadz
Are somes of you are doing the run in HM ?
Everyone is doing the run in HM.
lord_shar
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerg-nad
FYI...
Thomis will pull to the wall but generally takes a little more coaxing.
Consequence of Sin dying is only real consequence, UA nerf
However the popularity has dimished significantly.
After going numerous times with SH and Crier teams not convinced one is better than the other, base on time. Have had 2-3 minute runs with either, it all depends on the group, the spawn, and how the group pulls. I do see cryway generally killing in less time than SH... the key difference is mob-AI retreat. If a cryway group is properly spec'd, the mobs won't run, thus resulting in shorter kill times. However, if there is even one AE-fire-nuker in the bunch, then he/she can easily spoil it for the rest of the team.
Thomis will pull to the wall but generally takes a little more coaxing.
Consequence of Sin dying is only real consequence, UA nerf
However the popularity has dimished significantly.
After going numerous times with SH and Crier teams not convinced one is better than the other, base on time. Have had 2-3 minute runs with either, it all depends on the group, the spawn, and how the group pulls. I do see cryway generally killing in less time than SH... the key difference is mob-AI retreat. If a cryway group is properly spec'd, the mobs won't run, thus resulting in shorter kill times. However, if there is even one AE-fire-nuker in the bunch, then he/she can easily spoil it for the rest of the team.
Atrocity
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Originally Posted by Nightow
If anything, I think this has increased the cost of granite now. It was pretty close to 300g for 10 when I last checked.
6-8k a stack last night in most places. 
Nightow
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Originally Posted by Atrocity
6-8k a stack last night in most places.
lol, granite is the new feathers! Going to have to look up that Elemental farming run now and try it on my rit. 
BTW, friend got a req 12 VS other night, proud of it too.
lol, granite is the new feathers! Going to have to look up that Elemental farming run now and try it on my rit. BTW, friend got a req 12 VS other night, proud of it too.
kadz
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Originally Posted by Dzjudz
Everyone is doing the run in HM.
And did you know how the Sin build is ?
Cose in Sin you have only a 25% run , and thoses mob who have a knock down skill is very annoying.And killed me so many time.
And well , in HM you cant use hero and merc >< healer are too resistant
Cose in Sin you have only a 25% run , and thoses mob who have a knock down skill is very annoying.And killed me so many time.
And well , in HM you cant use hero and merc >< healer are too resistant
Siirius Black
I just got one VS r10 in NM
how much are they now?
how much are they now?
okashii
I bought a Q10 VS <with caster mods> for 100K+20e today
Atrocity
Meh....guess I'm selling mine before they hit 80k in December.
kadz
how the f*** are you success the Run in HM in permaSin with thoses horsesman with the KD skill ? :O
somes of you use "I'am unstoppable" ? of "dwarvenStab" ?
And with dwarven stab you have to use alcohol each run ><
or is there any tip to success the run without all that ?
somes of you use "I'am unstoppable" ? of "dwarvenStab" ?
And with dwarven stab you have to use alcohol each run ><
or is there any tip to success the run without all that ?
My Lipgloss is Cool
Start using that?
Covah
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Originally Posted by kadz
somes of you use "I'am unstoppable" ? of "dwarvenStab" ?
Just that. No alchohol.
Dzjudz
kadz, you can just use the standard build to succeed in HM without any alcohol:
[glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][shadow form][dwarven stability]["i am unstoppable!"][dash][dark escape][heart of shadow]
max Shadow Arts + superior rune
4 Air Magic
rest in Deadly Arts
[glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][shadow form][dwarven stability]["i am unstoppable!"][dash][dark escape][heart of shadow]
max Shadow Arts + superior rune
4 Air Magic
rest in Deadly Arts