VS farm will affect economy, not by that spear drop, but by Onyx and diamond price. They were already cheap enough, but now. People, who have already got all destroyer weapons, sell them to trader, and they price drop, because no-one buys them, because all farm VS. So, people bought DW soon after GW:En, will lose around 10-35k/purchased weapon.
Another that will effect economy, is gold weapon's drop.
Their price will
1) Drop, since people sell unid golds from VS.
2) Drop even harder, even indefed ones. From CofS you can get VS, Diamond aegis, Amethyst aegis, and iridescent aegis for example. These items price has dropped, and countitues dropping every day.
Conclusion: VS, Amethyst Aegis and other fancy weapons, including DW, price will drop, but it won't cause big losses.
Something what ANet could/should do: Remove wall only after every party member has opened dungeon chest.
Let the flaming begin.
VS farm effect on GW's *economy*
Nemesis of God
Spazzer
Nice. I'm glad I never got the destroyer weapons when they came out.
Then again, I can say this about every flashy once-expensive item in Guild Wars.
Then again, I can say this about every flashy once-expensive item in Guild Wars.
JDRyder
I will agree that the price of onyxs and diamonds have gone down, but imo they are not ecto so meh :P
Johny bravo
Here come the how XXXXX is destroying the GW economy. It started with the invinci-monk, moved on through various other builds, most recently SF ecto farmer, and now sits firmly on VS farming.
Listen as soon as they nerf a particular farm a new one will pop up and in a few weeks so will this thread.
Who cares if the game is not about the grind anyway ANET should be glad the prices are dropping.
Me IDK about farming anymore i'm rich
. and the funny thing is I got that way with one extremely lucky drop doing a FoW clear for my HoM statue
Listen as soon as they nerf a particular farm a new one will pop up and in a few weeks so will this thread.
Who cares if the game is not about the grind anyway ANET should be glad the prices are dropping.
Me IDK about farming anymore i'm rich
. and the funny thing is I got that way with one extremely lucky drop doing a FoW clear for my HoM statue
upier
By adopting an item early you pay the price of having an item that fewer people have.
You're not only paying for the item - you are paying for the privilege of having it.
You're not only paying for the item - you are paying for the privilege of having it.
Alastair
Qqqqqqqqqqqq
Gli
I like it when the prices of stuff I don't regularly pick up myself but want anyway drops.
FengShuiDove
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Let the flaming begin.
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There's no reason for this thread. There was no reason for all the whining and moaning threads about Ursan, about SF, about the economy, about whatever the big "oh em gee, killinZ prizes uf itums!" for the month was.
Elemental Swords were absolutely wrecked in this manner. Difference is there's no way of getting VS as rapidly or as consistently. Will prices go down? Yeah, but will they drop so low that you'll start seeing scrubs carrying them around everywhere? Nah.
More importantly, and relevantly, why complain about this? Whenever a "new" farm comes out, you inherently have two choices: do the farm and see if you get anything out of it (whether fun, items, gold, anything) or ignore the farm and do what you did before.
To answer your question, how is VS farm going to affect GW economy? VS prices and the already crap rare mats that drop out of those chests will drop some. OH NOES. END OF ECONOMY.
Seriously, I don't understand all of these "economy" threads. It's really not like it affects your gameplay in the slightest. Get over it.
eximiis
I like Vs farm, its make fancy weapon availabe for all.
The quest is : why can't i have a VS.
Imo, all (i mean all) skin should drop everywhere.
The quest is : why can't i have a VS.
Imo, all (i mean all) skin should drop everywhere.
N1ghtstalker
Voltaic price will drop but i won't see it plunge to a price of less then 50k at least for a q13
cuz even tho you can farm them the drop rate is quite low i think
i think each day about 10 vs's are earned this way
and i think that now the monthly update will nerf the farm
how, i don't know sure, i have a few suspicions on how they'll nerf it but i'm not going to panic about it
on a sidenote
it's mainly decided by personal taste
offcourse you would choose a ferrari over a normal little car that has nothing special to it
voltaic has a nice skin and alot of people want it for the skin and showoff
i wear some high end stuff myself but only because i like it
and i will continue searching for exotic weaponry for my own good looking and none other
cuz even tho you can farm them the drop rate is quite low i think
i think each day about 10 vs's are earned this way
and i think that now the monthly update will nerf the farm
how, i don't know sure, i have a few suspicions on how they'll nerf it but i'm not going to panic about it
on a sidenote
it's mainly decided by personal taste
offcourse you would choose a ferrari over a normal little car that has nothing special to it
voltaic has a nice skin and alot of people want it for the skin and showoff
i wear some high end stuff myself but only because i like it
and i will continue searching for exotic weaponry for my own good looking and none other
gremlin
Don't know about flaming but what if anything are you advocating.
Every player action farming buying selling hoarding etc will affect the economy.
The Economy is only considered broken by those who lose either a favourite way they made lots of money or by the devaluing of a large stock of something they had hoarded.
To both I say Tough that's the chance anyone of us takes by playing the GW equivalent of the stock market.
Every player action farming buying selling hoarding etc will affect the economy.
The Economy is only considered broken by those who lose either a favourite way they made lots of money or by the devaluing of a large stock of something they had hoarded.
To both I say Tough that's the chance anyone of us takes by playing the GW equivalent of the stock market.
Striken7
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Conclusion: VS, Amethyst Aegis and other fancy weapons, including DW, price will drop, but it won't cause big losses.
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I mean, the ones that were complaining about actual, sizable, price drops were stupid enough (because lower prices are good), but this one... I want my 20 seconds back.
Nereyda Shoaal
Price of onyx/diamond was going to drop anyway.
Weps are related to GW2 so almost everyone would like to have them. I'm not sure but I don't think anet would want half of the players not to have them
When I crafted my set a paid ~45k for each but I don't feel tricked or something. I knew the price will drop rapidly
I don't believe price of gold items (exc. VS) will drop either. I think on average you can get 20-30 golds a day... 5k=7 is for months now
Weps are related to GW2 so almost everyone would like to have them. I'm not sure but I don't think anet would want half of the players not to have them
When I crafted my set a paid ~45k for each but I don't feel tricked or something. I knew the price will drop rapidly
I don't believe price of gold items (exc. VS) will drop either. I think on average you can get 20-30 golds a day... 5k=7 is for months now
R.Shayne
If the VS farm killed the economy (trying not to laugh here) what will the Tormented Weapons do to the economy? Players have to pick, HoM with Destroyer weapons (ugly skin imho) or tormented weapons (decent skin, I like the wand and focus but rest I feel nothing, still better then Destroyer crap.)
Everyone takes Necro as secondary and bring a vampiric weapon to commit suicide so they can provide bodies for those on other side of wall.
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BenjZee
it happens...
seriously its just another phase that gw goes through, its not exactly hurtin anyone. Besides if they nerf this peoiple will find another thing to do...
seriously its just another phase that gw goes through, its not exactly hurtin anyone. Besides if they nerf this peoiple will find another thing to do...
boogerboy72
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N1ghtstalker
where is the time people played a game for fun?
like good old Counter strike or Team fortress 2, those are just for fun, not to show off 'n shit
now it's just to act cool on the internet oh god
you can be good at a game and be proud of it
but if you get too proud people will make you trip to get the fall
like good old Counter strike or Team fortress 2, those are just for fun, not to show off 'n shit
now it's just to act cool on the internet oh god
you can be good at a game and be proud of it
but if you get too proud people will make you trip to get the fall
Dronte
Another f*ckin economy thread, there is no thing like GW economy any more.
Nessar
I dont think VS prices will drop much. They don't drop very often anyway...They *might* be 100k by the end of the year, I doubt it
januscht
this thread make me yawn hard....
get over it, yes your amethyst will worth nothing but still looks nice (at least for me) if you paid 60k+ for it, too bad for you, is a fact that gw "rare" drops most of the time lose their value,
so, if you cant against them (the farmers) join them, and at least get some good drops or some gold while you can and please stop moaning
get over it, yes your amethyst will worth nothing but still looks nice (at least for me) if you paid 60k+ for it, too bad for you, is a fact that gw "rare" drops most of the time lose their value,
so, if you cant against them (the farmers) join them, and at least get some good drops or some gold while you can and please stop moaning
Coverticus
Been here before too many times now.....
People are doing this 24/7, where's the problem. The drop is still rare anyway, so this is not really causing issues. Granted onyx/diamonds have dropped - but Granite has gone up. There ya go boys and girls, make your money getting stacks of that
People are doing this 24/7, where's the problem. The drop is still rare anyway, so this is not really causing issues. Granted onyx/diamonds have dropped - but Granite has gone up. There ya go boys and girls, make your money getting stacks of that
gerg-nad
I think Anet will eventually nerf this as it is not an intended part of the game play and it has grown in popularity to such a extent. DOA is dead, so I headed off to Slavers again to do Duncan another 50 times. Soon after arriving at Slavers the VS-Farm Post turned it into VS-Farm City with few dungeon teams.
I and many others are joining in the fun while it lasts. I am sure many folks have more than I, but I am now fast approaching 250 Onyx and 175 Diamonds and still no Voltaic drop. I also continue to have a steady stream of UNID golds. So economy, its been tampered with so many times whether it be Ecto farming, Rapter Farming and all the rest. This seems to be more of a community farm, where the other farms were either single or small groups, this is a whole team of farmers with many PvP players that don't have the right skills for PvE or experience joining in the fray.
I am not interested in titles or the HoM, but in cooperative challenging real player PvE play, so for now this is where the action is in GW, that and maybe still UW and FOW, where you can quickly get into a all human team and begin playing the game.
I suspect Anet will shut this down and folks will move on to somewhere else. I dislike the constant tampering that is done with popular aspects of the game.
I and many others are joining in the fun while it lasts. I am sure many folks have more than I, but I am now fast approaching 250 Onyx and 175 Diamonds and still no Voltaic drop. I also continue to have a steady stream of UNID golds. So economy, its been tampered with so many times whether it be Ecto farming, Rapter Farming and all the rest. This seems to be more of a community farm, where the other farms were either single or small groups, this is a whole team of farmers with many PvP players that don't have the right skills for PvE or experience joining in the fray.
I am not interested in titles or the HoM, but in cooperative challenging real player PvE play, so for now this is where the action is in GW, that and maybe still UW and FOW, where you can quickly get into a all human team and begin playing the game.
I suspect Anet will shut this down and folks will move on to somewhere else. I dislike the constant tampering that is done with popular aspects of the game.
romeus petrus
Ever since EotN came out and Slaver's stood out as a water down version of DoA. It almost appeared as if Anet created it (together with the destroyer weapons) as a direct response to players QQing about the difficulty of DoA. It is a boring, repetitive, and almost mind numbingly easy to do. Specifically designed for casual players who want to spend an hour doing each dugeon a day and yet feel some sense of accomplishment when they kill the end Boss (lol Duncan).
I don’t think the VS farm will influence the economy that much. It will ,however; be the last nail in that failure of an "elite area" called slavers exile.
I don’t think the VS farm will influence the economy that much. It will ,however; be the last nail in that failure of an "elite area" called slavers exile.
A11Eur0
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If the VS farm killed the economy (trying not to laugh here) what will the Tormented Weapons do to the economy? Players have to pick, HoM with Destroyer weapons (ugly skin imho) or tormented weapons (decent skin, I like the wand and focus but rest I feel nothing, still better then Destroyer crap.)
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O Nuxtofulakas
around 15 voltaics for sale in guru high end now...and i am talking only about today's posts...
...price now seems to be less than 100k+50e for r9 and yes it's price keeps on dropping really fast
Luck was fair with me (already sold a r9 and a r10) so i wish GL to all fellow farmers
...price now seems to be less than 100k+50e for r9 and yes it's price keeps on dropping really fast
Luck was fair with me (already sold a r9 and a r10) so i wish GL to all fellow farmers
Trader of Secrets
I dont think the prices of these high-end items matter to Anet. Look at the elemental and colossal sword for example, once high-end items. The only concern to Anet I think is how easy it is to get a dungeon chest, like the nerfed HoS run.
lyra_song
Voltaic Spears are ugmo. Let it drop in price.
Masao
I feel I must give the obligatory anti-QQ post.
What economy?
On a more serious note, Voltaic prices were going down anyway. They don't affect the economy much because their prices were never stable, they're very uncommon drops, and they can't be added to a Monument.
Onyx and Diamond prices were due for a cut. With Torment added to the Hall of Monuments, as of the next update, Destroyer weapons won't be so special any more. The majority of players will attempt to fill their Monument with Tormented weapons rather than Destroyers.
Gold weapons drop fairly fast in individual farms. This is quite a bit faster, but with the majority of people not caring about Wisdom title, and the few people that do care about it needing thousands of golds each, and also the fact that the market price has been established for a long time, it is unlikely there will be any significant drop in the price of golds.
Rarer skins, like Pyroclastics, Amethyst Aegises, Diamond and Iridiscent Aegises, Gloom Shields and Embersteel Blades, are all low end rare skins to begin with. Their change in price is negligible in the economy.
Wait.
What economy?
What economy?
On a more serious note, Voltaic prices were going down anyway. They don't affect the economy much because their prices were never stable, they're very uncommon drops, and they can't be added to a Monument.
Onyx and Diamond prices were due for a cut. With Torment added to the Hall of Monuments, as of the next update, Destroyer weapons won't be so special any more. The majority of players will attempt to fill their Monument with Tormented weapons rather than Destroyers.
Gold weapons drop fairly fast in individual farms. This is quite a bit faster, but with the majority of people not caring about Wisdom title, and the few people that do care about it needing thousands of golds each, and also the fact that the market price has been established for a long time, it is unlikely there will be any significant drop in the price of golds.
Rarer skins, like Pyroclastics, Amethyst Aegises, Diamond and Iridiscent Aegises, Gloom Shields and Embersteel Blades, are all low end rare skins to begin with. Their change in price is negligible in the economy.
Wait.
What economy?
Turbobusa
Onyx Blindbow
Thread title a.k.a {insert newest known farm/skill/QQ here} affects Guildwars economy
When are the QQ'ers ever going to understand? roll the clock back to the introduction of the 55 monk THAT was turning point #1 add to that the various exploits of the dupers (you know the guys with xxxxxxx ectos and xxxxx armbraces that are simply impossible to have farmed in the time since the release of NF) then add into the equation these tiny little farms and you will see how minimal the impact is from such as the VS farm.
Onyx & Diamonds have dropped in price... so what they were never a currency anyway
VS have dropped in price... again so what, if you can get one cheap then good for you, for those (like myself) that have bought them at higher prices tough, get over it, it happens to all items eventually.
Everytime an economy thread pops up it is basically always a HUGE QQ thread about the latest farm, no one gives a monkey's about the economy in a game that is 3 years old and is on it's last legs, I would say that at least 75% of those ppl playing now are simply biding their time until GW2, once GW2 is released I think you will see a massive poplation drop in GW1.
Until that occurs, a-net will keep throwing us a bone with MOX and HoM updates etc... to keep some type of interest until beta, ppl will keep finding farms and still others will post "open letter to a-net" or "{insert QQ here} is destroying {economy, game, etc...}"
I will say it won't be long at all until you have the chance to cry about the latest farm
When are the QQ'ers ever going to understand? roll the clock back to the introduction of the 55 monk THAT was turning point #1 add to that the various exploits of the dupers (you know the guys with xxxxxxx ectos and xxxxx armbraces that are simply impossible to have farmed in the time since the release of NF) then add into the equation these tiny little farms and you will see how minimal the impact is from such as the VS farm.
Onyx & Diamonds have dropped in price... so what they were never a currency anyway
VS have dropped in price... again so what, if you can get one cheap then good for you, for those (like myself) that have bought them at higher prices tough, get over it, it happens to all items eventually.
Everytime an economy thread pops up it is basically always a HUGE QQ thread about the latest farm, no one gives a monkey's about the economy in a game that is 3 years old and is on it's last legs, I would say that at least 75% of those ppl playing now are simply biding their time until GW2, once GW2 is released I think you will see a massive poplation drop in GW1.
Until that occurs, a-net will keep throwing us a bone with MOX and HoM updates etc... to keep some type of interest until beta, ppl will keep finding farms and still others will post "open letter to a-net" or "{insert QQ here} is destroying {economy, game, etc...}"
I will say it won't be long at all until you have the chance to cry about the latest farm
Kusandaa
Geez. Everything drops in price over time, especially stuff that's farmable. It's normal. IRL example:
I remember when flatscreen monitors came on the market. I paid 750 bucks for mine (19 inch). Now... for 200 bucks I've got roughly the same, if not better. See me complaining? Nah, it's nice that stuff gets more affordable..
Same thing for game items. No need to whine about it IMO.
I remember when flatscreen monitors came on the market. I paid 750 bucks for mine (19 inch). Now... for 200 bucks I've got roughly the same, if not better. See me complaining? Nah, it's nice that stuff gets more affordable..
Same thing for game items. No need to whine about it IMO.
Stolen Souls
Guild Wars has an economy? 
AOD_EaSyKiLL
oh noes, the hurricanes will ruinz teh economyz
optymind
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Geez. Everything drops in price over time, especially stuff that's farmable. It's normal. IRL example:
I remember when flatscreen monitors came on the market. I paid 750 bucks for mine (19 inch). Now... for 200 bucks I've got roughly the same, if not better. See me complaining? Nah, it's nice that stuff gets more affordable.. Same thing for game items. No need to whine about it IMO. |
Odinius
I really don't care if prices drop.
I'm a casual gamer and just got my first and probably only obsidian armor(after three years) thanks to price drops and zaishen keys.
This new drop of diamonds and onyx will probably get me all the destroyer weapons I need for my hall.
GW1 is running to it's end so let the market collapse and let everyone fill their hall and have fun till GW2 is upon us.
I'm a casual gamer and just got my first and probably only obsidian armor(after three years) thanks to price drops and zaishen keys.
This new drop of diamonds and onyx will probably get me all the destroyer weapons I need for my hall.
GW1 is running to it's end so let the market collapse and let everyone fill their hall and have fun till GW2 is upon us.
Joe Fierce
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Ever since EotN came out and Slaver's stood out as a water down version of DoA. It almost appeared as if Anet created it (together with the destroyer weapons) as a direct response to players QQing about the difficulty of DoA. It is a boring, repetitive, and almost mind numbingly easy to do. Specifically designed for casual players who want to spend an hour doing each dugeon a day and yet feel some sense of accomplishment when they kill the end Boss (lol Duncan).
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As for the OP, one answer = cold hard cash don't put any money into anything other than money, hell, when i get too full i'm running on multiple accounts, but one thing i will never do is invest in something, so a illusion of a "economy" is nothing to me, I highly suggest you consider doign something similar, of course i have ectos and braces, but thats cause i farm them and don't sell them, but as for everything else, the best investment is no investment at all... I mean sure, it sucks that dest weapons are going down the toilet, hell i made mine the day they came out, cost me over a mil, but you' don't hear me bitching do yah? having something first isn't paying for the time, it's paying for having it first, thats why it's soo damned pricey, and it's a risk that some one should take into effect when purchasing something.
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For this thread, nothing more really needs to be said, lmao, seriously though
THE SKY IS FALLING...wait, gotta intarwebz it up here
what i meant to say is OMGZ TEH SKAI IZ FALLIN!!!!111oneoneone
Kerwyn Nasilan
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Nude Nira
Who Cares About The God Damn Gw Economey.
Joe Fierce
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Ebon Escape says hi.
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Shadow Kurd
So how big is this price drop anyway? When (if it will) will VS drop to 20k or lower?(So i can actually afford it)