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Pwny Ride

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04 Oct 2008 at 01:48 - 321

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Originally Posted by nvmu

The Time is Nigh - Gain the rank of Sunspear captain(500 ss point) or Level 17, very little grinding required

And a Hero Shall Lead Them - req 2500 ss points, not much grinding required

so it seems your point here is that ppl don't want to take the time to do this part of the game? then y are u playing the game, its part of the game deal with it

Its still grind. There should be no compulsory grind.
Im leaving, an account of you being an idiot.
Good day.

Heloniar

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04 Oct 2008 at 01:49 - 322

it seems you're gonna nitpick.

I'm also guessing you're one of the GWAMM crowd that doesn't want a change because that'd help reduce the GWAMM crowd in gw2 just so you can fling around your GWAMM bling and go " LAWLZ you noobs!"

nvmu

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04 Oct 2008 at 01:57 - 323

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Originally Posted by Heloniar

it seems you're gonna nitpick.

I'm also guessing you're one of the GWAMM crowd that doesn't want a change because that'd help reduce the GWAMM crowd in gw2 just so you can fling around your GWAMM bling and go " LAWLZ you noobs!"

no i only have 19 maxed titles slowly doing the odd and end vq i have left and cart, and i don't call some1 a noob because they don't have a title, however grinding is part of the GWAMM title, and i have to grind to get more maxed, GWAMM is for the hardcore gamer that feels the need to put in all the time, that is the way it has been it is the way it should continue to be, people are just getting lazy and want everything handed to them, like when people are asking for runs through the game when its their first time going through it

The Lost Explorer

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04 Oct 2008 at 02:00 - 324

when you play mutilple chars through factions and NF its gets annoying getting rank titles on a char that you maxed out alrdy on another. you did it once why should i have to do it again? doing it once isn't bad, yes, but doing 3+ is and thats the grind we want to get rid of, not all of it. when your trying to just play the game not going for titles but being forced to grind to get ahead in the game thats what needs to be fix, Grind is supposed to be a option not mandatory to beat the game no matter how little the grind is IMO

nvmu

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04 Oct 2008 at 02:03 - 325

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pwny Ride

Its still grind. There should be no compulsory grind.
Im leaving, an account of you being an idiot.
Good day.

If you do all the quests and take all the bounties you will proboly end up 3/5-4/5's of the way to where you need to be any ways

nvmu

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04 Oct 2008 at 02:06 - 326

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Originally Posted by The Lost Explorer

when your trying to just play the game not going for titles but being forced to grind to get ahead in the game thats what needs to be fix, Grind is supposed to be a option not mandatory to beat the game no matter how little the grind is IMO

simply solution, remove that requirement from the quest, alot easier than changing titles around

Heloniar

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04 Oct 2008 at 02:11 - 327

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Originally Posted by nvmu

no i only have 19 maxed titles slowly doing the odd and end vq i have left and cart, and i don't call some1 a noob because they don't have a title, however grinding is part of the GWAMM title, and i have to grind to get more maxed, GWAMM is for the hardcore gamer that feels the need to put in all the time, that is the way it has been it is the way it should continue to be, people are just getting lazy and want everything handed to them, like when people are asking for runs through the game when its their first time going through it

yep, that just proves me right, you may not have the title maxed, but you're of the same mentality. go play wow if you like the grind so much

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04 Oct 2008 at 02:22 - 328

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Originally Posted by nvmu

lol what God-Like-Imba-PvE-Only Skills are you talking about? none of them are necessary, for the most part the SS PvE Skillscare used for farming, and farming is a form of grinding, after all you would be grinding for cash or a specific item, others would be TNtF, eternal aura, critical agility, and seed of life(which is primarly used or use to be used in farming when you have an obby tank and bonder) which leaves you with 3 ss pve non farming skills

None are necessary, but skills like "Save Yourselves!" "There's Northing to Fear" Pain Invertern "I Am Unstoppable!" etc. are wanted.

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Originally Posted by nvmu

ok.. tell me what title in the game is worth anything?

EN rep titles=rank 5 for armor (easy enough to get tbh), all titles=skills/buffs (most of which can be handled, in NM, with low ranks), the 10k Kurzick/Luxon quests. And...

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Originally Posted by Pwny Ride

Once again you missed the point. In areas of the Nightfall storyline, a rank of title is REQUIRED TO ADVANCE IN THE GAME. Does it have to be spelt out letter for letter?

Its frustrating, really. This is beyond help.

This.

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Originally Posted by nvmu

The Time is Nigh - Gain the rank of Sunspear captain(500 ss point) or Level 17, very little grinding required

And a Hero Shall Lead Them - req 2500 ss points, not much grinding required

so it seems your point here is that ppl don't want to take the time to do this part of the game? then y are u playing the game, its part of the game deal with it

It's easy for Tyrian and Canthan characters, not so much, with no grinding, for Elonan characters. It's not that it's part of the game, it's that it's grinding, because without grinding or major side-quest involvement, it's not fast to do, for the Hero Shall Lead Them quest. It's either mindless grinding, or lots of quests. Sure the quests are not grinding, but some people don't have the time to do enough quests with the low reward points from them.

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Originally Posted by nvmu

lol 10k faction you do know how easy that is right, get the 10k on a dif char, and if it is your first time doing it you should play through the story line anyways,but once again that 10k, here ya go get a guest invite to a lux/kurz guild and ab for it, thats what every1 else has had to do, why change it now?

BECAUSE IT'S GRIND! That's why! And AB is still slow in getting faction, so is FA, and quests take an annoying while as well with each character. Doing these things once is no sweat, doing them multiple times IS!

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Originally Posted by nvmu

no i only have 19 maxed titles slowly doing the odd and end vq i have left and cart, and i don't call some1 a noob because they don't have a title, however grinding is part of the GWAMM title, and i have to grind to get more maxed, GWAMM is for the hardcore gamer that feels the need to put in all the time, that is the way it has been it is the way it should continue to be, people are just getting lazy and want everything handed to them, like when people are asking for runs through the game when its their first time going through it

Grinding is only part of the GWAMM now. It started like that, yes, but it shouldn't always be like that. And what part of doing something a chimpanzee can do is hardcore? Doing the same damn thing over and over is far from "hardcore" or "leet."

All you are saying, nvmu, is basically "lol that's easy" and "lol that's the point" to things that are clearly annoying when on multiple characters and originally was not the point. GWAMM might have always had grind, but GW did not, and GWAMM was not out since GW was, and GW is much more important than GWAMM.

You obviously love grind, so go play other games with grind, because GW was not meant to have grind in it. And if you don't love grind but you want GWAMM to be a challenge, then instead of asking for grind to stay, ask for a way to get the current grind titles through actually playing the game and not doing the same mindless thing over and over.

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Originally Posted by nvmu

simply solution, remove that requirement from the quest, alot easier than changing titles around

But it doesn't solve the problems of the titles themselves. It's the titles, not so much the quests, that are the problem. Should the quests be changed? Yes, but so should the titles.

Until you get out of your grinding mentality, please go play a game with all the grind you want, or take up someone's suggestion earlier in this thread and go work at McDonalds and flip burgers repeatedly.

nvmu

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04 Oct 2008 at 02:24 - 329

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Originally Posted by Heloniar

yep, that just proves me right, you may not have the title maxed, but you're of the same mentality. go play wow if you like the grind so much

what mentality, that life is not fair? that people have to earn what they want?? that hard work still means something??? it takes effort to achieve things???? please stop me when i reach the one you are talking about, i could care less if every1 had GWAMM as long as they actually put all the work into it, nothing is handed to people in life, why should it be in gw?
if people have issues with the required grinding to get through the game fine i can agree with that, but why change the titles that there is nothing wrong with when the simplest solution is to remove that part of the quest or alter it to make it less grind required, that i will agree with, but the titles are fine where they are at
its not like you need to have everything done when gw2 comes out, you can transfer achievements to gw2 aslong as gw1 is up, atleast going off of the info we know

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04 Oct 2008 at 02:37 - 330

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Originally Posted by nvmu

what mentality, that life is not fair? that people have to earn what they want?? that hard work still means something??? it takes effort to achieve things???? please stop me when i reach the one you are talking about, i could care less if every1 had GWAMM as long as they actually put all the work into it, nothing is handed to people in life, why should it be in gw?

You have yet to guess it, keep trying.

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Originally Posted by nvmu

if people have issues with the required grinding to get through the game fine i can agree with that, but why change the titles that there is nothing wrong with when the simplest solution is to remove that part of the quest or alter it to make it less grind required, that i will agree with, but the titles are fine where they are at

You're giving yourself hints here so I won't bother telling you. Your a big boy, figure it out. What you say here, is that you want less grind required, what we want, and what GW was originally about, was little to no grind, at all. Get the difference?

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Originally Posted by nvmu

its not like you need to have everything done when gw2 comes out, you can transfer achievements to gw2 aslong as gw1 is up, atleast going off of the info we know

No you don't, the grinding is optional, by game mechanics (mostly), however, by the community, for PuGs or for self-gratification (for the nerds and people with no lives), it is required.

nvmu

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04 Oct 2008 at 02:42 - 331

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

Until you get out of your grinding mentality, please go play a game with all the grind you want, or take up someone's suggestion earlier in this thread and go work at McDonalds and flip burgers repeatedly.

i have 1/4th of treasure hunter maxed, and 1/5th of wisdom maxed, i'd love for it to be easily acquired, but when i started going for it knew it would take a while, titles like those are suppose to be hard, same as ale/sweet/party, ect.

as for eotn skills they already made it so the lower end of the skills has more of an effect, and if they are going to keep changing makeing it easier to get max, they might as well move it to a no attribute skill that you can buy at a skill trader so it does max right off of the bat, or make the skills do max when you are rank1 in that title

personaly i do like the fact that skills get higher when you have a higher rank, it makes it worth the grind, point blank they could set the low end to the current max and raise the current max a little bit and ppl would still be QQing over the grind over that little added effect when it would do decent at r1, thats the gw mentality that every1 deserves the same thing

and yes faction ranks are tedious grinds, they could lower it, however that would go back to the gw mentality of every1 deserves the same thing, lets give every1 dragon emotes while we are at it

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04 Oct 2008 at 02:51 - 332

i can care less about GWAMM............i have 10 characters i play, one of each profession. i would of been much further along in wisdom and treasure hunter after 3 years of playing if it was an account wide title. inorder to save money for my 2 main title characters(beyond triple protectors) i decided to not open chests on the other characters. if it was account wide from the day titles were introduced i would of opened chests with everyone and the money i spent getting every character i have 15k armor would of went towards keys to open every chest i came across

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04 Oct 2008 at 04:26 - 333

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Originally Posted by nvmu

i have 1/4th of treasure hunter maxed, and 1/5th of wisdom maxed, i'd love for it to be easily acquired, but when i started going for it knew it would take a while, titles like those are suppose to be hard, same as ale/sweet/party, ect.

even if it was account based, which is all anyone is arguing for all 5 of those titles, they'd still be annoying and long.

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Originally Posted by nvmu

as for eotn skills they already made it so the lower end of the skills has more of an effect, and if they are going to keep changing makeing it easier to get max, they might as well move it to a no attribute skill that you can buy at a skill trader so it does max right off of the bat, or make the skills do max when you are rank1 in that title

personaly i do like the fact that skills get higher when you have a higher rank, it makes it worth the grind, point blank they could set the low end to the current max and raise the current max a little bit and ppl would still be QQing over the grind over that little added effect when it would do decent at r1, thats the gw mentality that every1 deserves the same thing

and yes faction ranks are tedious grinds, they could lower it, however that would go back to the gw mentality of every1 deserves the same thing, lets give every1 dragon emotes while we are at it

You're going to the extreme here. Simply making points easier to get is not giving it to everyone. That is part of the grinding mentality me and Heloniar meant, that is, the QQ part of it. You're taking what will be a small issue and turning it into a "omg GW is becoming 100% socialist" while thinking socialism is everyone gets the same things no matter what (which is a common thought of it, along with it being one and the same with communism, and both are wrong, but that's off topic).

Reducing grind is not giving things away, just simply change the grind to be like the Protector titles or something, you do things once and don't have to do it again, but you do multiple things to get the title. Never repeating. This is basically done with quests, but you can do every quest in all the games and for the more annoying grind titles (i.e. Kurzick, Luxon, Wisdom, Treasure Hunter) you won't even be half way, probably not even 1/4 of the way. Add more ways then quests, there are several options out there that is not reducing the numbers or removing the grind completely (that way, those who love to grind, as it seems about 5 people in this thread do, can simply grind while those who hate to grind can do other things).

For Kurzick and Luxon, such suggestions range from raising the faction cap to giving urgoz/Deep 2.5k/5k (NM/HM) faction and a bounty in it. Along with other missions (not as high though) and raising the amount of faction from non-repeatable quests, challenge missions, and AB.

There are ways to keep grind but have things completely obtainable from no grinding at all. So instead of arguing, say what can be done to have both. There will be QQing for that, but then again, there always will be.

It's pointless to argue over something you have no say about, and it's pointless to argue about opinions. And everything both sides of this now pitiful argument has been saying has been more opinionated (and therefore bias and unusable) then fact.

Can we move on now?

Heloniar

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04 Oct 2008 at 04:53 - 334

*slow clap*

Azazel, you're my favorite now

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04 Oct 2008 at 05:13 - 335

I'm not one to favor grinding, but what is the point in maxing titles without a little grind? From a PvE standpoint, I don't see what much else there is to do besides grinding out GWAMM. I mean people can say "high end PvE", but if that's all you do, isn't htat just a different type of grind, with even less of a reward?

Seriously, I get the whole "we hate grind" aspect, but does the alternative have much replay value?

nvmu

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04 Oct 2008 at 05:32 - 336

1) it ways to late to implement things like that in gw1 life

2) for the length of time urgoz/deep takes it should get faction

3) i'd rather not grind, i find it boring, but grinding and farming are practically the same thing, assuming u could agree with that, seeing in both your repeat things trying to obtain a goal(be it points or cash or items, even if the people reading this can't contemplate that grinding and farming are essentially the same things they are, so deal with it) so if they are going to fix one they should delay the update and then fix both at the same time, can we agree on that?

4) not trying to sound like a complete a$$, however whenever anet trys to fix something they end up wreaking something else which depending upon lvl of intensity will be fixed in an update the next day or next week

5) besides stuff that really needs to be fixed and events and content that has to deal with gw2 (HoM) they should leave it alone, and just improve it in gw2 so that game doesn't have to go through all these changes

6) titles are suppose to be hard to earn, and if you are not willing to put in the work that person doesn't deserve to have it (however i do see how having multiple chars that you are trying to get a rep title on is tedious, however that is why you have a main and get them on the others only if necessary)

7) lastly games are suppose to be challenging or they would be no fun to play

The Lost Explorer

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04 Oct 2008 at 05:50 - 337

but theres a difference between being hard to achive and being long to achive. grinding isn't hard just boring and time consuming.

nvmu

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04 Oct 2008 at 05:55 - 338

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Originally Posted by The Lost Explorer

grinding isn't hard just boring and time consuming.

point taken, boreing it is lol

however to an extent having something take a long time and being tedious does make it hard to achieve

The Lost Explorer

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04 Oct 2008 at 06:20 - 339

It still wouldn't be hard, anyone can FFF and Farm the points it just you should have a better system then going out killing the same thing over and over. like adding more reward points to quests rather then just a mere 100 points gain for a quest that took 30 mins

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04 Oct 2008 at 07:05 - 340

Heck.. I would be happy with just being able to open chests on all my characters, instead of just being able to open chests and identify items with my main character, it really keeps me from playing the rest of my characters.

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04 Oct 2008 at 07:36 - 341

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Originally Posted by Wrath of m0o

Heck.. I would be happy with just being able to open chests on all my characters, instead of just being able to open chests and identify items with my main character, it really keeps me from playing the rest of my characters.

Dude you lie. You shelve a toon because he may pass by two chests while doing a mission? Be honest man the bs is getting too deep in this thread.

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04 Oct 2008 at 09:37 - 342

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Originally Posted by Heloniar

*slow clap*

Azazel, you're my favorite now

same here lol

Angry Clap Man applauds for you.

Heloniar

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04 Oct 2008 at 10:18 - 343

too bad that nwmu posted again, guess there's no end to his opinion...

all grind=bad for GW mmkay?

and that man is from Citizen Kane btw :P Orson welles!

Kashrlyyk

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04 Oct 2008 at 10:38 - 344

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

...
This is basically done with quests, but you can do every quest in all the games and for the more annoying grind titles (i.e. Kurzick, Luxon, Wisdom, Treasure Hunter) you won't even be half way, probably not even 1/4 of the way. ....

Doing all the quests, that reward Kurzick points, once nets you 2-3% of the max title. That is with the double reward you get for donating them.

komma

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04 Oct 2008 at 10:38 - 345

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Originally Posted by komma

dang there is alot of high hopes here regarding title changes.....

11 pages later story remains the same

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04 Oct 2008 at 16:19 - 346

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Doing all the quests, that reward Kurzick points, once nets you 2-3% of the max title. That is with the double reward you get for donating them.

To bad it wasn't that way when factions came out. This of count's for making new characters.

nvmu

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04 Oct 2008 at 17:40 - 347

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Originally Posted by Heloniar

too bad that nwmu posted again, guess there's no end to his opinion...

all grind=bad for GW mmkay?

my point is you have bit**ing about 1 grind when people are just going to use the stuff from the titles and the ranks that pugs require to grind, either way gw is grind once you get through the game, there is no end to it, gw was not meant to be a grind game however it is the way it has been for a long time, changing 1 aspect of the grind will not have that great of an effect on gw to bother with it, the only possable outcome to suit everybody would be leave gw1 as it is and fix gw2 before it comes out so there is no grind at all, which would include...

1)heavy anti farming codeing
2)very easily achievable titles
3)no cart titles because that is grind
4)no pvp titles because all of those are grinds
5)no elite areas because people farm those which is a form of grinding
6)no elite armor or weapons because they involve grinding to get the assets to get them

do you see my point? gw is all grinding, it was not made to be but it is so get over it and play the game and stop bit**ing about grinding when that is all it is after you get through the game

Heloniar

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04 Oct 2008 at 18:14 - 348

nvmu you just don't get it. 5 or 6 people have tried to tell you the exact same thing. you can go now, and preen your pretty feathers so you can parade around and saying how leet you are for grinding to gwamm the hard way

nvmu

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04 Oct 2008 at 19:19 - 349

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Originally Posted by Heloniar

nvmu you just don't get it. 5 or 6 people have tried to tell you the exact same thing. you can go now, and preen your pretty feathers so you can parade around and saying how leet you are for grinding to gwamm the hard way

lol wtf are u talking about, i don't get what? you are not giving any thing for me to get? i agreed that having multiple characters trying to get rank titles on would be tedious, and i have never once called myself "leet", and gwamm is suppose to be hard to get, gwamm is for the hardcore gammer not the casual gamer, i have given ways to reduce the necessary required title rank/faction quests requirements, and what you don't agree that everything post storyline is grinding, because it sure as hell is, and i also agreed that gw was not suppose to be grind but it is, and i did say they should change it in gw2, however there is very little replayability, you can do everything the exact same way everytime in gw, and do your realize that they did change the min on eotn rep skill to increase it so that you didn't have to grind so much on them? they only leg you have to stand on here is the lux/kurz titles, which fine raise the min amounts on them like they did on the eotn rep points, however once again they are pve title track skills they should have a max on them to give the bonus to the people that take the time to max the title

every casual player should be fine getting through the game without high title ranks, and if they can't then join a guild that does that stuff so you don't have to pug and show ranks
the titles are an advantage to the hardcore gamers who put in all the time and effort, the hardcore gamers usually have a main, what do you not comprehend about that?

Heloniar instead of flaming why don't you actualy go get some facts and evidence

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04 Oct 2008 at 19:57 - 350

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Originally Posted by nvmu

2)very easily achievable titles

i would love to pimp smack you dead in the mouth for that.....titles in no way should be easily achievable...max titles are there for anyone who is diligent/stupid enough to put in the time and effort to achieve that title, and they are rewarded for it w maximum status.....titles arent supposed to be had by every invalid w a keyboard...give your heads a damn shake...anet actually DID a decent job on the titles in gw1....now for gw2 they need to make titles even harder to get.......time to put the babies to bed.

nvmu

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04 Oct 2008 at 19:59 - 351

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Originally Posted by komma

i would love to pimp smack you dead in the mouth for that.....titles in no way should be easily achievable...max titles are there for anyone who is diligent/stupid enough to put in the time and effort to achieve that title, and they are rewarded for it w maximum status.....titles arent supposed to be had by every invalid w a keyboard...give your heads a damn shake...anet actually DID a decent job on the titles in gw1....now for gw2 they need to make titles even harder to get.......time to put the babies to bed.

i agree, i was just stating ways to make the game grind free because people in this thread would like to see the grind removed, which in order to remove grinding all round it would change the game near completely (the 6 points in post 347 if not more then that)

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04 Oct 2008 at 22:32 - 352

The only real way to remove grinding is to remove all titles from the game. It is nice though that they are removing some of the grind.

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05 Oct 2008 at 00:28 - 353

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05 Oct 2008 at 00:57 - 354

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Doing all the quests, that reward Kurzick points, once nets you 2-3% of the max title. That is with the double reward you get for donating them.

Unless you did that before the Kurz/Lux titles were introduced, in which case all the faction you spent literally doesn't count (which Anet really needs to fix, and since the total faction you've accumulated appears when you mouse over the faction bars, presumably this can be done).

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05 Oct 2008 at 02:46 - 355

-ignores idiocy-

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too late

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05 Oct 2008 at 03:57 - 356

off-topic-ish but I don't want titles in GW2. I have like 8 max titles but I still believe they were a failure to be part of the premise of being the "casual gamers" game.

Far too late to get rid of titles in GW1 since now it's going to effect aesthetically pleasing stuff you get in GW2.

Linking skills to title rank = bad. I have all 4 eotn factions maxed and r9 sunspear and I still think this is horrible. Though it's a bit forgiveable being pve only.

Linking weapon/armor crafts to title rank = ehhhh ok. I can at least see that being like "You have come along far enough in our organization that I give you the option to have these gifts."

linking items to titles (Namely rainbow phoenix) = SUPER BAD

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05 Oct 2008 at 04:10 - 357

If any titles make it to GW2, it should only be the achievement titles, maybe, dunno about this, but maybe PvP titles as well. But I definantly want Protector, Cartographer, Vanquisher, etc. in GW2, don't care about any others.

nvmu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

05 Oct 2008 at 04:44 - 358

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Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart

off-topic-ish but I don't want titles in GW2. I have like 8 max titles but I still believe they were a failure to be part of the premise of being the "casual gamers" game.

Far too late to get rid of titles in GW1 since now it's going to effect aesthetically pleasing stuff you get in GW2.

Linking skills to title rank = bad. I have all 4 eotn factions maxed and r9 sunspear and I still think this is horrible. Though it's a bit forgiveable being pve only.

Linking weapon/armor crafts to title rank = ehhhh ok. I can at least see that being like "You have come along far enough in our organization that I give you the option to have these gifts."

linking items to titles (Namely rainbow phoenix) = SUPER BAD

well the game is made to be playable by casual gamers, however being that the hardcore gamers need stuff to keep them interested in gw you have titles and bonus to having titles maxed, linking skills to title ranks is to provide bonuses to the hardcore gamers, having titles in gw2 or not doesn't really matter to me, however no titles just mean as soon as hardcore gamers get done with the basic game they are going to have nothing left to do in the game, and stop playing, which will reduce the chance of people buying games made my anet in the future, and gw does not have replayability and most likely gw2 will not

lordheinous

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

05 Oct 2008 at 05:02 - 359

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Originally Posted by nvmu

well the game is made to be playable by casual gamers, however being that the hardcore gamers need stuff to keep them interested in gw you have titles and bonus to having titles maxed, linking skills to title ranks is to provide bonuses to the hardcore gamers, having titles in gw2 or not doesn't really matter to me, however no titles just mean as soon as hardcore gamers get done with the basic game they are going to have nothing left to do in the game, and stop playing, which will reduce the chance of people buying games made my anet in the future, and gw does not have replayability and most likely gw2 will not

Dude, repeating an action 258,381 times in as short a time frame does not make you "hardcore", it makes you an obsessive freak who is willing to RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO out their life in order to be able to stare at their screen while they make sweet love to their cd drive. "Hardcore", if it means anything at all, would be spending large amounts of time and effort working to improve one's skills, and in gw, this would almost certainly in the realm of pvp.

What grind enables is the feeling of being special that is usually reserved for those who have developed skills, achieved great accomplishments, or become otherwise well known, for any idiot who has some excessive free time and the ability to do repetitive actions. This is, indeed, a fairly large portion of the human race, at least that play video games, as evidenced by the current mmo market; however, gw is not (supposed to be) one of those games that is grind with thrown in graphics.

There are plenty of games out there that are all grind, where you can be as "hardcore" as you want; no reason to try to turn gw into a grindfest, unless you're somehow philosophically against the idea of online games not containing grind....in which case your posting here is basically trolling.

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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05 Oct 2008 at 05:50 - 360

Forgot to mention this in my last two posts....

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*slow clap*

Azazel, you're my favorite now

same here lol

Angry Clap Man applauds for you.

What? I'm actually liked now? O.o

What did I finally do right?

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Doing all the quests, that reward Kurzick points, once nets you 2-3% of the max title. That is with the double reward you get for donating them.

Someone did the math for me. Well, it's less then 1/4.

So I wasn't wrong. Point stands, Kurzick/Luxon title=too much grind.

I'm losing interest in arguing over the rest, my stubbornness is finally at it's end... I thought it was impossible to happen.