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So if no kidding no lies, Im sure you wont mind sharing it on this thread then, assuming it is real and/or is not an exploit that you should have reported...
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Title Changes in the works
Big_Iron
Onyx Blindbow
In reply to zwei2stein
GWAMM is a character specific title, NOT a player/account specific title and IMO should never be a player/account specific title
The whole idea behind GWAMM is that you achieved those titles with that char not that you have managed the odd title here and there with different chars
Who ever said anything about transferring titles? you did when you wanted to offload the work you have done with other chars and make the benefit account wide
You and others basically want GWAMM to be an player/account title not a specific character title, therefore any new char you roll will automatically receive the benefits from those titles/rep/faction already gained (as it would be account wide)
again you could make bought titles global, along with wisdom/treasure but where does it end, how long until people start to QQ about other titles that MUST be account wide
IMO the whole thing smacks of lessening the achievement of those that have actually done all that was necessary with the one char to get GWAMM which is really about the only PvE title of any worth now
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Besides that, there is method of getting 20 maxed titles in less that 15 minutes. (No Kidding & No Lies) Does thins kind of lightning-fast GWAMM disturb you too?
noticed you dodged answering this upto now and yes that does disturb me because it belittles the efforts put in by real players, rather than the people searching for exploits/broken mechanics to get a title they havent earnt
GWAMM is a character specific title, NOT a player/account specific title and IMO should never be a player/account specific title
The whole idea behind GWAMM is that you achieved those titles with that char not that you have managed the odd title here and there with different chars
Who ever said anything about transferring titles? you did when you wanted to offload the work you have done with other chars and make the benefit account wide
You and others basically want GWAMM to be an player/account title not a specific character title, therefore any new char you roll will automatically receive the benefits from those titles/rep/faction already gained (as it would be account wide)
again you could make bought titles global, along with wisdom/treasure but where does it end, how long until people start to QQ about other titles that MUST be account wide
IMO the whole thing smacks of lessening the achievement of those that have actually done all that was necessary with the one char to get GWAMM which is really about the only PvE title of any worth now
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Besides that, there is method of getting 20 maxed titles in less that 15 minutes. (No Kidding & No Lies) Does thins kind of lightning-fast GWAMM disturb you too?
noticed you dodged answering this upto now and yes that does disturb me because it belittles the efforts put in by real players, rather than the people searching for exploits/broken mechanics to get a title they havent earnt
kratimas
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Preparing some popcorn to watch all the GWAMM's QQ,
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No matter what they do, 99% of the people will piss and moan about it.
Sad really
Bekkr
If this ends up being as good a change as it could be, the only downside I can see is the QQing from the OCD types who can't understand the concept that one player's 3000 hours across 12 characters is every bit as valid as their 3000 hours on the one character.
Fingers crossed for win.
Cynicism at the ready for fail.
Fingers crossed for win.
Cynicism at the ready for fail.
Onyx Blindbow
tbh I think a-net have done this wrong anyway, no contact with players, not asking players views but they are just going to steamroller ahead with whatever idea they have in mind
I honestly think the only changes that will be seen are
wisdom/treasure going account wide,
easier way to max luxon
or kurzick hfff being brought into line with luxon one timeframe wise,
or hopefully the lowering of the grind in respect of luxon/kurzick/gw:en reps/ss & lb,
I really hope they don't make the drunkard title spammable (it would be a shame as I think that title was well thought out and the sweets & party that should have followed the drunkard model and not been made a quick spammable title)
I honestly think the only changes that will be seen are
wisdom/treasure going account wide,
easier way to max luxon
or kurzick hfff being brought into line with luxon one timeframe wise,
or hopefully the lowering of the grind in respect of luxon/kurzick/gw:en reps/ss & lb,
I really hope they don't make the drunkard title spammable (it would be a shame as I think that title was well thought out and the sweets & party that should have followed the drunkard model and not been made a quick spammable title)
DarkNecrid
let's argue about stuff we have no clue if they are doing or not to get our hopes up and inevitability cause them to fail when something does happen!
Zwei, you aren't going to win, and you're clearly arguing with a guy who bought this game for the wrong reasons if he's willing to defend GWAMM and title grind. Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
Meanwhile, either way, this is a victory for those of us who bought this game and know what it was about back in Prophecies and stuck to that. Even if it's a small change it's still a showing that the current GW1 team is willing to change stuff towards a direction that the game we played 50$ for used to be, and was advertised to us as. But I don't think this'll be a small change knowing Linsey, so. :P Even better!
Zwei, you aren't going to win, and you're clearly arguing with a guy who bought this game for the wrong reasons if he's willing to defend GWAMM and title grind. Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
Meanwhile, either way, this is a victory for those of us who bought this game and know what it was about back in Prophecies and stuck to that. Even if it's a small change it's still a showing that the current GW1 team is willing to change stuff towards a direction that the game we played 50$ for used to be, and was advertised to us as. But I don't think this'll be a small change knowing Linsey, so. :P Even better!
WinterSnowblind
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Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow
In reply to zwei2stein
GWAMM is a character specific title, NOT a player/account specific title and IMO should never be a player/account specific title The whole idea behind GWAMM is that you achieved those titles with that char not that you have managed the odd title here and there with different chars Who ever said anything about transferring titles? you did when you wanted to offload the work you have done with other chars and make the benefit account wide You and others basically want GWAMM to be an player/account title not a specific character title, therefore any new char you roll will automatically receive the benefits from those titles/rep/faction already gained (as it would be account wide) again you could make bought titles global, along with wisdom/treasure but where does it end, how long until people start to QQ about other titles that MUST be account wide IMO the whole thing smacks of lessening the achievement of those that have actually done all that was necessary with the one char to get GWAMM which is really about the only PvE title of any worth now Originally Posted by zwei2stein Besides that, there is method of getting 20 maxed titles in less that 15 minutes. (No Kidding & No Lies) Does thins kind of lightning-fast GWAMM disturb you too? noticed you dodged answering this upto now and yes that does disturb me because it belittles the efforts put in by real players, rather than the people searching for exploits/broken mechanics to get a title they havent earnt |
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow
In reply to zwei2stein
GWAMM is a character specific title, NOT a player/account specific title and IMO should never be a player/account specific title The whole idea behind GWAMM is that you achieved those titles with that char not that you have managed the odd title here and there with different chars Who ever said anything about transferring titles? you did when you wanted to offload the work you have done with other chars and make the benefit account wide You and others basically want GWAMM to be an player/account title not a specific character title, therefore any new char you roll will automatically receive the benefits from those titles/rep/faction already gained (as it would be account wide) again you could make bought titles global, along with wisdom/treasure but where does it end, how long until people start to QQ about other titles that MUST be account wide IMO the whole thing smacks of lessening the achievement of those that have actually done all that was necessary with the one char to get GWAMM which is really about the only PvE title of any worth now Originally Posted by zwei2stein Besides that, there is method of getting 20 maxed titles in less that 15 minutes. (No Kidding & No Lies) Does thins kind of lightning-fast GWAMM disturb you too? noticed you dodged answering this upto now and yes that does disturb me because it belittles the efforts put in by real players, rather than the people searching for exploits/broken mechanics to get a title they havent earnt |
2) The whole idea behind GWAMM is that you achieved... Emphasis on correct spot.
3) You seem to be stuck in standard-MMO "Character" > "Player" mindset. That is wrong mindset for guildwars. Fix it.
4) No PvE title and was majority of PvP ones do not have any worth. Best thing you can say about player that holds one such title is "He might not have gridded and exploited to get it"
5) How is doing exactly same things that player did on only one different from doing them split on several characters different? They all have to be done or there is no gwamm for them. Where is difference for you?
6) See, you are too easily disturbed when you do not have enough information about nature of things.
bungusmaximus
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Originally Posted by kratimas
QFT
No matter what they do, 99% of the people will piss and moan about it. Sad really |
Molock
I wish they would make the rep titles account wide because honestly... maxing all 6 of them on my assassin, my elementalist, my warrior, my monk, my ranger and my necromancer ain't gonna happen. I already maxed them on my elementalist and every second of grind was PAINFUL and I really don't wanna have to go through that ever again. I wouldn't mind if the titles have no effect on gameplay.. but they have a considerable effect and that is what bothers me.
If it was possible I would have the skills and passive effects of the rep titles scale to your character with the highest tier while the titles on character x might not be as high. Example: Elementalist has r8 LB, Assassin has r4 LB. While the title would always display r4 on my assassin the LB effect and skill would be scaled to r8.
I know this won't happen and it makes me sad but it is just a game after all
Hopefully the update will bring some refreshing changes.
If it was possible I would have the skills and passive effects of the rep titles scale to your character with the highest tier while the titles on character x might not be as high. Example: Elementalist has r8 LB, Assassin has r4 LB. While the title would always display r4 on my assassin the LB effect and skill would be scaled to r8.
I know this won't happen and it makes me sad but it is just a game after all
Hopefully the update will bring some refreshing changes.
upier
If you make more titles account wide - great, I might even have a shot at getting some ranks in them.
If you don't - watch me not get them.
I am not going to be playing the game for titles if the core game won't be fun.
If you don't - watch me not get them.
I am not going to be playing the game for titles if the core game won't be fun.
pumpkin pie
next thing you know, players will start asking for titles to be crossed-accounts.....
Pwny Ride
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next thing you know, players will start asking for titles to be crossed-accounts.....
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I dont see why people have a problem with this. Titles should be a reflection of the player's achievements. No?
Ate of DK
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Hopefully the update will bring some refreshing changes.
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They can change titles if they want but I am wondering about something else. Why should every player be able to achieve GWAMM without massive grinding?
Rings any bells...?
What I am trying to say is that when GW2 gets released. There could be 3 players with Legendary Hero (R15), probably nobody with max Champion and maybe a Legendary Gladiator?
If Anet would just announce that you don't need GWAMM to unlock your special green weapon, your gold mini-pet, your special collectors armor for in towns in GW2 and a flashy title that says "My grand-daddy roxx GW1*...
Then the whole title grinding/hunting to achieve the max-PvE rank would become less important.
Anyway, thinking a bit further in the future would make me consider buying GW2. I now realise that Anet changes things in the game that many spent many hours on. So... I better buy GW2 2 years after release when everything gets easier to achieve and spam my flash emotes at players who played 2 years allready with the text: "Haha, you noob!"
Just my thoughts,
* Honestly, you expect some other bonus to get from linking your GW1 account with your GW2 account?
Onyx Blindbow
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
1) Offloading work is not same as transfering title. Ain't that obvious?
2) The whole idea behind GWAMM is that you achieved... Emphasis on correct spot. 3) You seem to be stuck in standard-MMO "Character" > "Player" mindset. That is wrong mindset for guildwars. Fix it. 4) No PvE title and was majority of PvP ones do not have any worth. Best thing you can say about player that holds one such title is "He might not have gridded and exploited to get it" 5) How is doing exactly same things that player did on only one different from doing them split on several characters different? They all have to be done or there is no gwamm for them. Where is difference for you? 6) See, you are too easily disturbed when you do not have enough information about nature of things. |
2. WRONG, GWAMM is a character based title, not what YOU have acheived in the game account wise (look on wiki if your not clear on this)
3. Nope disagree totally, I enjoy all 8 of my characters so enjoy playing accountwise, maybe if GWAMM or title hunting was originally designed to be account wise then I wouldn't be in the "std mmo mindset" as you call it
4. no titles worth anything? then why bother playing for them? why even enter into an argument about how the game should be switched around from it's original concept of character based accomplishments to player accomplishments
5. To me personally the difference is that a choice was made to go for GWAMM as the game is intended to be which was character based, if the title track would have been account based from the start then I would have farmed the titles across my range of chars as I saw fit, but why should the whole concept behind the game be changed to suit the few that cannot be bothered to make that choice?
6. that sentence is nonsensical drivel,
you stated that you know of a way to max 20 titles in 15 minutes, I responded that I presume it was an exploit or broken mechanic, others have since questioned this and you have upto now dodged the answer
To clarify my position on this, GWAMM is and has always been a character based title, not my choice or the choice of anyone hunting titles, it has nothing to do with OCD or the need to play in "std mmo style", it is a concept behind the game, I don't believe this concept should be turned on it's head for a few people that do not want to put in the effort to get that title.
FYI: http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Maxed_titles_rank
Maxed Titles Track
The maxed titles track, more commonly known by its first tier, Kind Of A Big Deal, is a title that you can display for prestige.
It is awarded per character for number of other titles maxed. 6 is its highest rank, at 30 titles maxed, but the count can go up past 30.
I am not getting into a flamewar over this, just stating my opinion that the foundations of the game shouldn't be changed to pacify the few
As I said earlier the chances are that the changes will be minimal and next to nothing will be made accountwide anyway lol
pumpkin pie
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Originally Posted by Pwny Ride
QQ.
I dont see why people have a problem with this. Titles should be a reflection of the player's achievements. No? |
I was being sarcastic.
I mean 2 Guild Wars accounts not GW - GW 2
you know, after all, i did do all those stuff with this one character in this one account so, its the player, me, that achieve the things, so why not give it to my secondary account characters as well << thought i explain it more :P (/sarcasm)
Pwny Ride
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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
I was being sarcastic.
I mean 2 Guild Wars accounts not GW - GW 2 |
EDIT: @ Onyx. I should buy an account with a character with GWAMM off of ebay then. That would surely mean more than me, as a player, actually achieving it.
I should also probably steal the identity of that guy in my design firm who's about to get a promotion to director. I mean, its not about the person at all. Is it?
What we have achieved 'account wise' is still what we've achieved as players. Adding 'account wise' to a sentence doesnt change a thing, it's just twisting of words.
nvmu
hmm... how about next month armor gets changed so that you can buy armor for 1 character and all of your characters gets a set... ya lets do that to... armor is a character achievement i guess you could say, but as long as ppl want pve titles to become account wide why not allow pve armor to become account wide
sounds stupid right, well so does pve titles becoming account wide
incase you haven't noticed account wide titles take alot more to max then character based, so following that to change rep titles to become account wide would mean that it would actually take more grinding to get them. (exception being kurz/lux, but it depends how you go about it)
sounds stupid right, well so does pve titles becoming account wide
incase you haven't noticed account wide titles take alot more to max then character based, so following that to change rep titles to become account wide would mean that it would actually take more grinding to get them. (exception being kurz/lux, but it depends how you go about it)
Vazze
Probably it does not matter what we say now, but imo all titles should be account wide and many titles have serious grind issues.
Jensy
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Originally Posted by Ate of DK
If Anet would just announce that you don't need GWAMM to unlock your special green weapon, your gold mini-pet, your special collectors armor for in towns in GW2 and a flashy title that says "My grand-daddy roxx GW1*... Then the whole title grinding/hunting to achieve the max-PvE rank would become less important. * Honestly, you expect some other bonus to get from linking your GW1 account with your GW2 account? |
Uh, who the hell ever said you would need to grind out GWAMM for GW2? O_o Even if you did, titles still do not mean anything. At all.
Besides, it'd most likely be "Full HoM ---> Special Whatever", and you do not need GWAMM to get a full HoM.
Pwny Ride
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Originally Posted by nvmu
hmm... how about next month armor gets changed so that you can buy armor for 1 character and all of your characters gets a set... ya lets do that to... armor is a character achievement i guess you could say, but as long as ppl want pve titles to become account wide why not allow pve armor to become account wide
sounds stupid right, well so does pve titles becoming account wide |
You cannot apply runes and insignias to titles. Titles cannot be bought from traders or merchants right off the bat. Titles cannot be crafted.
No, that sounds stupid, because that comparisant is just ridiculous.
The scenario you have used to degrade the idea of account titles fails, due to the fact that titles introduce no imbalance whatsoever. Account based armors, do.
Onyx Blindbow
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Originally Posted by Pwny Ride
EDIT: @ Onyx. I should buy an account with a character with GWAMM off of ebay then. That would surely mean more than me, as a player, actually achieving it.
I should also probably steal the identity of that guy in my design firm who's about to get a promotion to director. I mean, its not about the person at all. Is it? What we have achieved 'account wise' is still what we've achieved as players. Adding 'account wise' to a sentence doesnt change a thing, it's just twisting of words. |
My argument is that GWAMM is a character based title (as designed by a-net) and those that have played to achieve it as per the concept behind the title would most likely prefer to keep it character based.
Accountwise means the whole account you are playing be that 2 or 20 different chars, but regardless of the argument behind it GWAMM is a character title not an account one, maybe it was short-sighted of a-net and should have been account based, doesn't change the fact that it isn't though.
I use the term "accountwise" in the pretext above, to differentiate between a character and all the characters played by the player/account owner, therefore what we have acheived as players or accountwise is not the same as what we have acheived with a single character, nor was it meant to be if you look at how a-net implemented the max title track.
So how exactly do you allude to the "buy a GWAMM from ebay" from that
Lycan Nibbler
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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
Zwei, you aren't going to win, and you're clearly arguing with a guy who bought this game for the wrong reasons if he's willing to defend GWAMM and title grind. Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!
Meanwhile, either way, this is a victory for those of us who bought this game and know what it was about back in Prophecies and stuck to that. Even if it's a small change it's still a showing that the current GW1 team is willing to change stuff towards a direction that the game we played 50$ for used to be, and was advertised to us as. But I don't think this'll be a small change knowing Linsey, so. :P Even better! |
Lets see.. if I remember that far back.. Prophecies had "NO" titles - therefore, from your statement - titles have no interest to you (being that you like it as was) and so why are you even commenting on a thread about titles changes??
I guess your $50 for prophecies was more important than others who bought it for THEIR not your reasons along with the follow up chapters. Following your arguement, Im sure there are some people who bought the game and played the game because of the titles/achievements (or anet wouldnt have put them in after checking the market).
Why should those players have to have their game changed? they have just as much right as you.
nvmu
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Originally Posted by Pwny Ride
You can not salvage titles, titles are worthless in a monetary sense. Titles do not have a set 60, 70, 80 and 100 AL levels.
You cannot apply runes and insignias to titles. Titles cannot be bought from traders or merchants right off the bat. Titles cannot be crafted. No, that sounds stupid, because that comparisant is just ridiculous. |
Pwny Ride
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So how exactly do you allude to the "buy a GWAMM from ebay" from that |
My point is, at the core, the base argument against account titles is very, very shallow.
Silverblad3
I am glad they are looking into this, but to be honest I think it is too little too late, whether your a GWAMM or a wannabe GWAMM.
If the true intent is to reduce grind, repetitive actions then they really need to look at the following also:
repeatedly running and finding high end chests for treasure hunter and wisdom
being afk on 9 rings to get unlucky and lucky - boring and tedious with other tedious ways to increase the titles by small ammounts
Repetitive farming to make money to afford titles
Repetitive farming of event drops
They have tough decisions to make to reduce the titles would be hard on the GWAMMs and making it easier would please many folks. Me? I do not care as I am almost to my GWAMM title, actually I still have lots of afking to do on 9 rings, and running chests, and farming for event items. It keeps me interested in the game but I would rather be in parties with guildies and friends doing things together.
I guess it will be interesting to see what happens. Good luck A-net!
Silver
If the true intent is to reduce grind, repetitive actions then they really need to look at the following also:
repeatedly running and finding high end chests for treasure hunter and wisdom
being afk on 9 rings to get unlucky and lucky - boring and tedious with other tedious ways to increase the titles by small ammounts
Repetitive farming to make money to afford titles
Repetitive farming of event drops
They have tough decisions to make to reduce the titles would be hard on the GWAMMs and making it easier would please many folks. Me? I do not care as I am almost to my GWAMM title, actually I still have lots of afking to do on 9 rings, and running chests, and farming for event items. It keeps me interested in the game but I would rather be in parties with guildies and friends doing things together.
I guess it will be interesting to see what happens. Good luck A-net!
Silver
JONO51
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you stated that you know of a way to max 20 titles in 15 minutes, I responded that I presume it was an exploit or broken mechanic, others have since questioned this and you have upto now dodged the answer
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Kook~NBK~
20 maxed titles in 15 minutes?
I'M LISTENING!!!
Or is that a typo and you meant to say 2? (which wouldn't be true, since you've still gotta come up with the cash / items to max Sweet Tooth & Party Animal titles)
Or should we just call it BS and be done?
I'M LISTENING!!!
Or is that a typo and you meant to say 2? (which wouldn't be true, since you've still gotta come up with the cash / items to max Sweet Tooth & Party Animal titles)
Or should we just call it BS and be done?
Onyx Blindbow
JONO, if you read his post on page 12 or 13 he states it as though it is possible at present, hence why I said it is an exploit or broken mechanic, but as yet he hasn't answered that particular point to anyone
My point is, that the very concept behind maxed titles is character based, there has not been one argument put forward that shows exactly why a-net should change this core concept to the complete opposite, other than to say "we want easier maxed titles" it isn't meant to be easy (tbh it isn't hugely difficult to do anyway)
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My point is, at the core, the base argument against account titles is very, very shallow.
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pumpkin pie
buy account with GWAMM lol takes 5 minutes? hahaha
Lycan Nibbler
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Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Besides that, there is method of getting 20 maxed titles in less that 15 minutes. (No Kidding & No Lies) Does thins kind of lightning-fast GWAMM disturb you too?
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1) Its a statement with no basis and therefore BS - which reflects negatively on other statements made by you (and also the guild you represent on the forum).
or
2) Its the form of exploits that you have knowledge of, either by using them yourself or because theyve been used by your friends/guildies.
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3) You were trying to make yourself look superior by meaning getting the titles to the point of almost finished and then finishing them. The time to "Maxed titles" to me means the time taken from start to finish - not for the last point on each.
If either of the first 2 is the case, then it impacts my opinion on TAM
Zaris
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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
20 maxed titles in 15 minutes?
I'M LISTENING!!! Or is that a typo and you meant to say 2? (which wouldn't be true, since you've still gotta come up with the cash / items to max Sweet Tooth & Party Animal titles) Or should we just call it BS and be done? |
and do same thing with vanquisher/kurzick/luxon/mission
Pwny Ride
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My point is, that the very concept behind maxed titles is character based, there has not been one argument put forward that shows exactly why a-net should change this core concept to the complete opposite
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-The insane levels of grindng go against what Guild Wars originally stands for.
-A-net does not want the acquisition of titles to consume a player's social-life (part of which is why the 'time playing' reminders even exist).
A-net have woken up, looked back on their 'design brief' if you will, and see where they have gone wrong. Therefore, adjusting is being made.
Its not fixing something that isnt broken. It's improving something that isnt perfect.
seut
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Originally Posted by Zaris
get 9999 with wisdom/th/party/sweet and drunkard then max them in 1 minut
and do same thing with vanquisher/kurzick/luxon/mission |
Dr.Jones
At what this tread has become my response is this LOL PVE.
Zaris
wisdom/th/party/sweet/drunkard =5
guardian+prot=7(easy missions that take 2-3min to finish)
159points on all 4 eotn titles=4 (4 filled books saved)
master of the north =1 (kilroy hm)
elite skill hunter = 4 (tomes ftw)
9999k at luxon and kurzick = 2 (10k waiting to be donated)
sunspear+ lb at 49k= 2
total in 15mins = 25
guardian+prot=7(easy missions that take 2-3min to finish)
159points on all 4 eotn titles=4 (4 filled books saved)
master of the north =1 (kilroy hm)
elite skill hunter = 4 (tomes ftw)
9999k at luxon and kurzick = 2 (10k waiting to be donated)
sunspear+ lb at 49k= 2
total in 15mins = 25
Onyx Blindbow
So therefore you basically advocate a change to the core principal of the title track 3 years after it's implementation to the complete opposite of what it originally stood for.
I agree 100% that adjusting is needed, the reputation grind is tiresome, the allegiance grind is ridiculous, but a complete change to the opposite of it's concept? nope don't agree with that at all
I agree 100% that adjusting is needed, the reputation grind is tiresome, the allegiance grind is ridiculous, but a complete change to the opposite of it's concept? nope don't agree with that at all
Lycan Nibbler
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At what this tread has become my response is this LOL PVE.
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Pwny Ride
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So therefore you basically advocate a change to the core principal of the title track 3 years after it's implementation to the complete opposite of what it originally stood for.
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I agree 100% that adjusting is needed, the reputation grind is tiresome, the allegiance grind is ridiculous, but a complete change to the opposite of it's concept? nope don't agree with that at all
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seut
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Originally Posted by Zaris
wisdom/th/party/sweet/drunkard =5
guardian+prot=7(easy missions that take 2-3min to finish) 159points on all 4 eotn titles=4 (4 filled books saved) master of the north =1 (kilroy hm) elite skill hunter = 4 (tomes ftw) 9999k at luxon and kurzick = 2 (10k waiting to be donated) sunspear+ lb at 49k= 2 total in 15mins = 25 |