Golems...?
Braxton619
Well, one question, during the event, I had many golems blocking the view of Mad King Thorn. Can they get banned for that? I heard 20+ people that were gonna report him to ArenaNet. Can you?
mazza558
Can't you change the camera angle?
Striken7
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Leet Tankur
Well, one question, during the event, I had many golems blocking the view of Mad King Thorn. Can they get banned for that? I heard 20+ people that were gonna report him to ArenaNet. Can you?
|
Exactly what rule do you think they were breaking? Using a Tonic with intent to stand somewhere?
Quaker
Change districts - duh.
And why do you need to see the Mad King, anyway?
And why do you need to see the Mad King, anyway?
MithranArkanere
You don't need to see the King at all. You can stand anywhere in the green circle and watch the Dialog panels.
You don't even need the Local chat.
You don't even need the Local chat.
dilan155
and besides you can move your camera or even move or change districs. its within his rights to use a tonic and then stan wherever he wants.
ps-why is this in riverside if its a question?
ps-why is this in riverside if its a question?
Kerwyn Nasilan
No they cannot be banned, and those who reported them need to go back to care-bear land.
TheGuildWarsPenguin
It was pretty funny to watch people yell at the people with golem tonics.
HawkofStorms
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan
No they cannot be banned, and those who reported them need to go back to care-bear land.
|
If anything, the people who are threatening them (which, if done excessively enough, is a felony, even on the internet) are the ones who should be banned. Also, reporting people who are golems is an abuse of the report system, another bannable offense.
gremlin
Firstly no there is no reason to report the golem users.
The golems well the creepy ones where designed as part of the festival.
On the other hand it was stupid of arenanet not to see that it would be annoying.
Players like to see the Mad king and to jump up and down trying to attract his attention when it comes to rock paper scissors.
Staring at a number of large metal backs isn't very interesting.
Arenanet yet again you shoot yourselves in the foot with another inane addition to the game.
You know very well every festival in the game involves the players all cramming into a small area around whoever is currently holding their attention, be it mad king Thorn or The Emperor at the Dragon festival.
All you really need to do is make sure the peasants sry players keep a repectful distance away.
Make the Mad king and Emperor stand on a raised podium surrounded by guards who make sure we all keep back.
The golems well the creepy ones where designed as part of the festival.
On the other hand it was stupid of arenanet not to see that it would be annoying.
Players like to see the Mad king and to jump up and down trying to attract his attention when it comes to rock paper scissors.
Staring at a number of large metal backs isn't very interesting.
Arenanet yet again you shoot yourselves in the foot with another inane addition to the game.
You know very well every festival in the game involves the players all cramming into a small area around whoever is currently holding their attention, be it mad king Thorn or The Emperor at the Dragon festival.
All you really need to do is make sure the peasants sry players keep a repectful distance away.
Make the Mad king and Emperor stand on a raised podium surrounded by guards who make sure we all keep back.
pumpkin pie
1) why do the golem need to stand over the Mad King?
2) golem 1 x other players 100 maybe more
100 players have to tolerate 1 inconsiderate player?
2) golem 1 x other players 100 maybe more
100 players have to tolerate 1 inconsiderate player?
Jensy
I was in LA American 111 yesterday, and a golem was doing this. Which, whatever, but Gaile happened to be there and kept bugging him to move... which he eventually did. Then everyone was like "LOL OWNED"... and yeah, it was funny.
Nothing you can do to prevent people from being assholes, unfortunately. It's widespread through *every* district I was in yesterday, but it's certainly nothing you can report. If we could report being for being assholes, I don't think I'd ever STOP reporting :P
Nothing you can do to prevent people from being assholes, unfortunately. It's widespread through *every* district I was in yesterday, but it's certainly nothing you can report. If we could report being for being assholes, I don't think I'd ever STOP reporting :P
pumpkin pie
Well actually if you want to report, you can, rules of conduct number 1: on the basis that they have cause you distress resulting in you having to ask them to move constantly which resulted in many unwanted attention to you, and you were at the same time unable to enjoy the game fully.
While playing Guild Wars, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. You will not report players maliciously, or cause them to be investigated without reason.
While playing Guild Wars, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. You will not report players maliciously, or cause them to be investigated without reason.
beserk
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Leet Tankur
Well, one question, during the event, I had many golems blocking the view of Mad King Thorn. Can they get banned for that? I heard 20+ people that were gonna report him to ArenaNet. Can you?
|
12chars.
IlikeGW
It is a form of griefing, would be funny if those reported got a temp ban.
Shadowmoon
i admit i did do this for two reasons, because it was alittle funny to see people get irrate over something so stupid, and to hopefully show that alot of people don't like how supersize the tonics really are. A thread about this topic was made b4 the event, which alot of people said it was a non issue. Well with the amount of pms and all chat and probably /reports i got, it clearly was a issue.
Possible solutions:
A log in annousment for future events asking player to reframe from using large tonics, and getting in peoples way during finale. Anyone who does risks a mini ban (3 hours) similar to trading in all chat.
Shrink size of tonics to that of normal players during the festivals, and resize them afterwards.
Just disable tonics like pvp areas in LA and Kamadan during events.
Possible solutions:
A log in annousment for future events asking player to reframe from using large tonics, and getting in peoples way during finale. Anyone who does risks a mini ban (3 hours) similar to trading in all chat.
Shrink size of tonics to that of normal players during the festivals, and resize them afterwards.
Just disable tonics like pvp areas in LA and Kamadan during events.
WinterSnowblind
I mentioned this in the Halloween thread.. but again, even though you don't really need to be able to see him, it's very annoying that so many people go out of their way to try and ruin the event for others (which is against the rules). I enjoy taking screenshots, especially as he has so many funny animations, and pretty much every event I attended this year was blocked by at least one Golem.
Something definitely needs to be done about this for the future festivals. If it doesn't bother you, then fine, but there's clearly a lot of people that were annoyed by this.
Something definitely needs to be done about this for the future festivals. If it doesn't bother you, then fine, but there's clearly a lot of people that were annoyed by this.
Rothan Celt
i loved the golems in mad king thorns visit took ages for them to die :P
Lourens
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Quaker
Change districts - duh.
And why do you need to see the Mad King, anyway? |
isamu kurosawa
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
1) why do the golem need to stand over the Mad King?
2) golem 1 x other players 100 maybe more 100 players have to tolerate 1 inconsiderate player? |
Whats next? you want to ban tall male warriors?
Those people where partaking in an event and enjoying themselves. any "grief" caused was indirect. You dont have to see the mad king, just what he says. People cannot block his chat popups.
wind fire and ice
Change dists...not hard.
Or just read what he says and dont look at him..thats nice too.
Or just read what he says and dont look at him..thats nice too.
Rocky Raccoon
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Striken7
Um, no lol
Exactly what rule do you think they were breaking? Using a Tonic with intent to stand somewhere? |
caballo_oscuro
Yes, great idea, let's mention this idea to Ticketmaster and the guy who runs the local music club. In fact, let's just ban tall people from coming to public gatherings altogether.
And ban stilts. And tall unicycles. If you're too short that's your own disposition to deal with in your own way. Perhaps request that for next year Anet put Thorn on a raised stage...
And ban stilts. And tall unicycles. If you're too short that's your own disposition to deal with in your own way. Perhaps request that for next year Anet put Thorn on a raised stage...
pumpkin pie
If players want to be inconsiderate prick, I can be too, so what if I want to see the Mad King? What if there are players who are in their first year of playing and have never seen the Mad King before, after all he's the "main" feature of this festival?
I was in a district where there's one players who keep saying to please move aside so they can see better, but the golem didn't even want to move so we thought they are afk, but, after the mad king left, he move away and says: Hey guys, I move away.
So that's an okay behaviour?
I was in a district where there's one players who keep saying to please move aside so they can see better, but the golem didn't even want to move so we thought they are afk, but, after the mad king left, he move away and says: Hey guys, I move away.
So that's an okay behaviour?
Rocky Raccoon
"While playing Guild Wars, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game." From the EULA.
Abedeus
Yeah, but I think there's a point about not stealing fun from others just for sake of your's.
caballo_oscuro
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
"While playing Guild Wars, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game." From the EULA.
|
Sure if someone is deliberately being a nuisance they should be asked to leave but there's nothing stopping them doing what they're doing short of Anet banning use of transmogrifiers in event towns.
There were plenty of districts where there were no golems blocking the view, and the event was going on all day and on literally hundreds of districts across US and EU where you could freely move between. I'm sure you could have found a district easily enough.
True that doesn't excuse people being dicks about it when they're asked to make room, but the problem with MMO games is that there's very few adults to supervise all the kids and very little the ones who are there can actually do since we can't simply engage in pvp in a town...
There's griefers in every online community, you just have to find a way to deal with them if the community admins aren't sorting the issue.
Shadowmoon
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
"While playing Guild Wars, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game." From the EULA.
|
funny how this vague statement can go either way. Plus the while doing this, i heard many people threaten and use abusive language to the golems, so in fact they were explicitly violating the EULA, even if the golems were implicitly violating it.
HawkofStorms
So much over exaggeration on this thread.
How is this "stealing fun" or "being a prick" by using an item that's in the game?
How is this "stealing fun" or "being a prick" by using an item that's in the game?
jackinthe
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by TheGuildWarsPenguin
It was pretty funny to watch people yell at the people with golem tonics.
|
Arduin
I remember people using the /dancenew on their assassin at last year's Halloween. A giant discoball would pop up, right into the King's face.
Same rants, same whining.
So there's nothing new this year about people getting grieved.
-------------------------------
@ TwinRaven
Remember this is a GuildWars Forum. GuildWars is God over here. Don't get real life involved with a video game, please.
Still a QQ thread though.
Same rants, same whining.
So there's nothing new this year about people getting grieved.
-------------------------------
@ TwinRaven
Remember this is a GuildWars Forum. GuildWars is God over here. Don't get real life involved with a video game, please.
Still a QQ thread though.
TwinRaven
Global warming, oil shortages, food shortages, rampant disease and poverty, children and women being sold as sex slaves, the up-coming election, unending wars, people being hacked to death with machetis, innocent people on death row, radio-active waste storage, cancer, the outrageous cost of health care, the fast-food/diabetes/pharmisuticles connection, C.E.R.N. and herpes...and you're bitching about not being able to see a cartoon character...interesting priorities. Move to another district...and before anyone suggests these assholes are everywhere, I had no issues in ANY of the districts I visited. close QQ thread please. It's over.
KiyaKoreena
I would count the ones who repeatedly moved on and off the Mad King despite being asked to stay off of him and/or who stood on him spouting off inane comments as griefers and should be reported as such. They were knowingly doing something to aggrivate the rest of the players in the district.
If you want to say "Well, you should have gone to a district where there werent any" then well they could have all gone to one district and have a big golem party instead of griefing everyone else in so many districts.
Its not a problem of the tonics being so big, its a problem of people behaving like jerks because they dont think there could be any repercussions. If there were live GMs that could have booted them as caught in the act that would have been great. As is, the only thing we can do is report and wait and maybe they will get a belated slap on the wrist. Maybe they wont do it again but that is highly doubtful.
If you want to say "Well, you should have gone to a district where there werent any" then well they could have all gone to one district and have a big golem party instead of griefing everyone else in so many districts.
Its not a problem of the tonics being so big, its a problem of people behaving like jerks because they dont think there could be any repercussions. If there were live GMs that could have booted them as caught in the act that would have been great. As is, the only thing we can do is report and wait and maybe they will get a belated slap on the wrist. Maybe they wont do it again but that is highly doubtful.
gremlin
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by TwinRaven
Global warming, oil shortages, food shortages, rampant disease and poverty, children and women being sold as sex slaves, the up-coming election, unending wars, people being hacked to death with machetis, innocent people on death row, radio-active waste storage, cancer, the outrageous cost of health care, the fast-food/diabetes/pharmisuticles connection, C.E.R.N. and herpes...and you're bitching about not being able to see a cartoon character...interesting priorities. Move to another district...and before anyone suggests these assholes are everywhere, I had no issues in ANY of the districts I visited. close QQ thread please. It's over.
|
Drunk driving ignore it people are starving.
Rape ignore it Atomic war is a real possibility.
We are in a game forum talking about a game, references to horrifying real world disasters have no place here.
btw what have YOU done to reduce any one of the disasters you mention ?
Arenanet should either reduce the golem size or alter the festivals to allow people to enjoy them.
Kashrlyyk
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
Others have the right to enjoy using a tonic and standing where ever they like, and enjoy the game by doing it.
funny how this vague statement can go either way. Plus the while doing this, i heard many people threaten and use abusive language to the golems, so in fact they were explicitly violating the EULA, even if the golems were implicitly violating it. |
Or are they deliberately standing in front of children blocking their view too?
Griefers are a sad bunch of people, but much worse are those that try to defend that behaviour.
KiyaKoreena
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by gremlin
Arenanet should either reduce the golem size or alter the festivals to allow people to enjoy them.
|
Arduin
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by KiyaKoreena
I wish they would put a barrier around characters like the Mad King so no one could get that close. Make everyone stay an arm or so lengths away.
|
upier
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
Others have the right to enjoy using a tonic and standing where ever they like, and enjoy the game by doing it.
funny how this vague statement can go either way. Plus the while doing this, i heard many people threaten and use abusive language to the golems, so in fact they were explicitly violating the EULA, even if the golems were implicitly violating it. |
The problem arises when people infringe into other people's rights while exercising their own.
But this being an action that might result in a ban?
I SERIOUSLY doubt it.
Kashrlyyk
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by upier
...
But this being an action that might result in a ban? I SERIOUSLY doubt it. |
Arkantos
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
A badly chosen name is reason enough for a temporary ban. So why not?
|