Golems...?

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personal opinion here - but the golems were griefing, and should at the least catch a temp ban for it.

i'd managed to catch a spot in dist 1 spamadan, and there was an asshat who found it amusing to camp over the mad king. figure, the district was full, and one person found it necessary to mess with the rest of the crowd? uncalled for.

really, if it was someone who'd gone afk in an unfortunate spot, then hey, whatever, REDENGINE happens, right? but when it's deliberate (as in, they're taking part in the event, just deliberately ruining it for others) they deserve the cyber equivalent to a boot-to-the-head.

i believe, by the end of the event, there had been at least 70+ reports on our particular asshat, which should be enough for Anet to realise someone has pissed off a whole district's worth of people....

Numa Pompilius

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Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind View Post
How does that argument make ANY sense? I'm not throwing a tantrum, in what way do I need to "get over myself"? Why is my opinion wrong, why doesn't my analogy work? Saying "no" doesn't just invalidate my opinion.

I don't see how this makes me a "care bear".
You've been given the standard reply any griefer ever gives to anyone complaining about griefing.

A griefer has fun by compensating for their real-life feelings of inferiority by annoying people in the safe environment of the game. It's a powertrip: they've got the power to annoy you and you've not got the power to do anything about it.

Of course, that's not how the griefer sees it. They see it as that they're just having a bit of fun with the scrubs, and anyone who disagrees is a wet blanket, or, in MMO terms, a carebear.

Now, as griefing goes the Golemblock was a very minor one, and definitely not bannable, but I'm guessing ANet will take steps to avoid a repeat in future events anyway. ANet is very aware that people are assholes and, given the safety of the game, will take every opportunity to grief eachother, so they've consistently tried to make sure people are unable to grief.

Bluefeather

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Hahaha this thread is funny

I joined 3 times in Mad King Event but i didn't notice any Golem stealing the fun

I wanted all my chars to have the mask so i kept joining every three hours, until a guild mate borrowed my mask and reproduced it in the the festival hat npc only then i realized i didn't need to be there all the time

But really, this thread is funny Isn't calling them names not enough?

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To OP, seems like no matter what district I went to there were a bunch of golemtards all standing blocking view of the king. I know that you don't need to see the king an all, but if you hold in ctrl & alt you don't need to see the monsters or npc's, but where would the fun be in that?

Shouldn't all these stupid golems be out trick or treating with mum and dad on Halloween anyway? Kids today lool

Ps. Some peeps who don't use wiki, probably now think the Mad King is a Golem

Avarre

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I'm not sure if the griefers, the crying abused, or the armchair psychologists are the most funny in this thread.

But it's making my job as a mod more interesting.

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WinterSnowBlind,
No need to argue here, send a ticket to arena net: http://www.guildwars.com/support/

As a Graphical Anomali, things overlap too much need to be fix, just check out the Graphical Anomali on this forum, people report over lapping and disappearing parts all the time.

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I agree we are being carebears so lets let the golems have their fun.


All ready for winterfest are we, Be real fun trying to find the drops and beat the grenchies with Golems covering all the npcs.

Cannot wait for the Dragon festival never seeing the Emperor trying to take the parts for the banquet to the cooks with Golems around.


The future all indicates FUN FUN FUN well for golems anyway.

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Originally Posted by hallomik View Post
If you can receive a temp ban for spamming all chat or for having a name offensive to some, then yes, this could easily qualify too.

I love the "arguments" of the pro-griefers.

You could go to another district. Same applies to spamming all chat, no?
You should stop being a care-bear. Ad hominem FTW!
There's world hunger, dude. Non sequitur FTW!
You make me feel bad by criticizing this on a forum. Candidate for dumbest post of the thread.
It doesn't bother me, so it shouldn't bother you. Narcissism FTW!

Those of you opposed to the griefing, however, should have a little sympathy for the other side. Something like 70% of people who bully or grief were physically or sexually abused by an older relative when they were a child. They try to hurt others to help them deal with that pain. A little compassion is appropriate.
Lol. Just lol.

isamu kurosawa

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I find it rediculous that people wnat tonics to be unusable duing an event, that is one of the main purposes of tonics. They are even given out during these events.

People gather as close as possible to him tonic or no. I see the complainers as annoyed just because they couldn't do the same themselves.

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa View Post
I find it rediculous that people wnat tonics to be unusable duing an event, that is one of the main purposes of tonics. They are even given out during these events.
It is stupid. Just elevate The Mad King's height in some way.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by hallomik View Post
If you can receive a temp ban for spamming all chat or for having a name offensive to some, then yes, this could easily qualify too.

I love the "arguments" of the pro-griefers.

You could go to another district. Same applies to spamming all chat, no?
You should stop being a care-bear. Ad hominem FTW!
There's world hunger, dude. Non sequitur FTW!
You make me feel bad by criticizing this on a forum. Candidate for dumbest post of the thread.
It doesn't bother me, so it shouldn't bother you. Narcissism FTW!

Those of you opposed to the griefing, however, should have a little sympathy for the other side. Something like 70% of people who bully or grief were physically or sexually abused by an older relative when they were a child. They try to hurt others to help them deal with that pain. A little compassion is appropriate.
Oh okay, so you start the post off with massive generalisations that are mostly irrelevant in this thread, and then follow up with some psychology to make yourself seem as though you aren't just another guy in your mothers basement. Nice try, but you fail.

Auron of Neon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius View Post
A griefer has fun by compensating for their real-life feelings of inferiority by annoying people in the safe environment of the game. It's a powertrip: they've got the power to annoy you and you've not got the power to do anything about it.
I have no "real-life feelings of inferiority." I have a fine job, going to uni, and my computer is up-to-date on specs. I play music in my spare time, smoke hookah with friends every weekend, I'm not teased or picked on, and I've never been abused as a child. I'm about as happy as I care to be. If you want to imagine that I'm trying to compensate for something, keep living in your dream world, but reality says differently.

The part about a power trip is arguably true, but it's pretty generic to the entire internet. Anonymity breeds asshattery in many cases. But no, I don't grief people because I can, I grief because it's so funny to watch. Have you ever seen a comedian perform? Where they do or say silly things that make you laugh? Griefing is like that, except the roles are reversed; everyone else is saying stupid things and I'm just there being insanely amused.

Trolling in-game is generally hard. Hats off to ANet for giving us something that required nothing more than standing still. Great thinking on their part tbh - they banned MOX from PvP because he's too big to see around, yet they didn't think that maybe the golem tonics would do the same thing?

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius View Post
Of course, that's not how the griefer sees it. They see it as that they're just having a bit of fun with the scrubs, and anyone who disagrees is a wet blanket, or, in MMO terms, a carebear.
Wrong. Plenty of people can disagree with us and not be carebears. Some people simply derive no humor from it. Some find it funny but would rather just enjoy the show. Those people aren't carebears.

A carebear is someone who acts like an idiot about it - the people who spam "omg move golems" in all chat (a bannable offense), break the EULA by personally attacking other users (a bannable offense), and who abuse the report system by reporting players who are standing still (a bannable offense).

Lastly, and here's something you completely failed to consider... Halloween 2008 is exactly the same as halloween 2005. They added a new hat, a new joke in the dialog, but overall, it's the same event it always was.

Guess what?

That's boring.

I've been to three halloweens so far (I hadn't started playing by 05), and I've seen the jokes, gotten the hats, and have enjoyed partying in guild halls by dancing in candy corn tonic form. However, I no longer enjoy that. ANet has added no new content - except for these neat tonic things that make me 20 feet tall. Instead of sitting around for 30 minutes of boring, 3-year-old dialog, being bored out of my mind, I combined two of ANet's creations into one - golem tonics and Halloween.

I feel a little remorse for any new players that suffered (somehow?) because of my guarding the Mad King. If it was their first Halloween, it was probably special, and they were likely very into the celebrations. However, bawwwwwwwwwwwwww. I said a little remorse, not a lot.

Numa Pompilius

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Quote:
Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa View Post
People gather as close as possible to him tonic or no. I see the complainers as annoyed just because they couldn't do the same themselves.
Players in town are /noclip, you can walk right through a golem, or stand inside it. The golem doesn't hinder anything but view.

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Originally Posted by Auron of Neon View Post
That's boring.
So you didn't like the event and felt you should therefore ruin it for any scrub who otherwise might.

Enjoy your powertrip.

Auron of Neon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius View Post
Players in town are /noclip, you can walk right through a golem, or stand inside it. The golem doesn't hinder anything but view.


So you didn't like the event and felt you should therefore ruin it for any scrub who otherwise might.

Enjoy your powertrip.
Enjoy not having any reading comprehension whatsoever. I'd debunk your fallacious argument but I've already done so, read it again.

Avarre

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I'm doing my PhD on this topic and I need some help. Can one of you folks please outline the correlation between 'not physically seeing King Thorn' and 'the event being ruined'? It's important to my thesis making any sense at all.

DoomFrost

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What you guys don't understand is that I was paid by the Mad King himself to block him from carebear onlookers. Last time he looked at a carebear he lost a day's worth of meals. I was hired to ensure that wouldn't happen! So really it isn't the golems that are the problem it's the carebears that are ruining the fun.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Wars Eye of the North Manuscript
Often used for defense as well as general tasks, golems are difficult to make and even more difficult to control.
The fact that we could move these GOLEMS into place to protect the mad king is a feat of incredible might, yet you all still insist on insulting us.

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This thread is absolutely hilarious.

WTB golem tonics or whatever the hell they are.

Numa Pompilius

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Originally Posted by xDusT II View Post
WTB golem tonics or whatever the hell they are.
I can sell you 7 for 1K/ea. PM me ingame.

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holy shit, this thread has gone so far beyond only Inde could put out this fire

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With that said, I think this thread is nearing breaking point. Going to let it play out a bit more, though.

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Come on, this is a serious problem that needs to be addressed.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefeather View Post
Hahaha this thread is funny

I joined 3 times in Mad King Event but i didn't notice any Golem stealing the fun

I wanted all my chars to have the mask so i kept joining every three hours, until a guild mate borrowed my mask and reproduced it in the the festival hat npc only then i realized i didn't need to be there all the time

But really, this thread is funny Isn't calling them names not enough?
Thats bull The hats/masks have always have been customised to you you can't share/copy one to a different account
only to any chars on your own account.
he must have already had one on his account and didn't notice.

As to the Golems yeah it was annoying to first time players and or people that wanted to actually participate and look at the king i guess
but what should be done if anything thats up to Anet to work out.

Rocky Raccoon

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Originally Posted by fenix View Post
What? No. Just no. That is NOTHING like that.

Also, wtf serious problem? Needs to be addressed? Are you high? There's NOTHING serious about this. Get over yourself, and stop being such a huge carebear.
You are becoming more annoying every time you make a statement. You say you would be a griever in game and you are one here. If carebear means be civil and polite, than call me a carebear.

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Originally Posted by Avarre View Post
I'm not sure if the griefers, the crying abused, or the armchair psychologists are the most funny in this thread.

But it's making my job as a mod more interesting.
None of the above. the funniest are the mods who fight over who will get to lock the thread down first. Good luck to all the mods vying for that chance.

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger View Post
You are becoming more annoying every time you make a statement. You say you would be a griever in game and you are one here. If carebear means be civil and polite, than call me a carebear.
That's the thing, most of the people who are offended by the golems are NOT being "civil and polite." Most of them in game were making violent derrogatory insults about the sexuality of the golem's mother while yelling at them to move.

Rocky Raccoon

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
That's the thing, most of the people who are offended by the golems are NOT being "civil and polite." Most of them in game were making violent derrogatory insults about the sexuality of the golem's mother while yelling at them to move.
So 2 wrongs make a right, correct?

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So 2 wrongs make a right, correct?
That would insinuate that there is something wrong with standing in a spot, attending the Mad King even, while using a Tonic which ANet put into the game for people to enjoy.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMECGvP7UsY

rofl. to a t.

Avarre

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None of the above. the funniest are the mods who fight over who will get to lock the thread down first. Good luck to all the mods vying for that chance.
I swear I will ban any mod who does it before me.

Rocky Raccoon

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Originally Posted by Avarre View Post
I'm doing my PhD on this topic and I need some help. Can one of you folks please outline the correlation between 'not physically seeing King Thorn' and 'the event being ruined'? It's important to my thesis making any sense at all.
I go to an action movie and 4 people block my view of the screen. I can hear the action but I also payed to see the action which I can't. I should just accept the fact and say nothing?

Arkantos

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Question to all of you who think they deserve a ban.

Do you honestly think ANet are going to track down hundreds of people who did this and ban them?

Think about it. ANet are working on GW2. Do you think they'll spend time to ban people for being a minor annoyance?

Quote:
I go to an action movie and 4 people block my view of the screen. I can hear the action but I also payed to see the action which I can't. I should just accept the fact and say nothing?
This is more stupid than the rock concert analogy.

The WHOLE POINT of going to a movie is to SEE it. You do NOT need to see the Mad King. Stop making bad analogies people, please.

Rocky Raccoon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix View Post
That would insinuate that there is something wrong with standing in a spot, attending the Mad King even, while using a Tonic which ANet put into the game for people to enjoy.
It is not insinuating anything when said Golems admit that is why they are doing it.

fenix

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Okay, since you're ALL so terrible at analogies, here's one that ACTUALLY applies;


Not being able to listen to a CD because someone stood in front of the CD player.


That's what standing in front of the Mad King is like. In fact, that's EXACTLY what it's like. You're all just stupid for thinking otherwise.

FlamingMetroid

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why didn't I do this ;_;

Rocky Raccoon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix View Post
Okay, since you're ALL so terrible at analogies, here's one that ACTUALLY applies;


Not being able to listen to a CD because someone stood in front of the CD player.


That's what standing in front of the Mad King is like. In fact, that's EXACTLY what it's like. You're all just stupid for thinking otherwise.
Last I knew we were playing video (latin, vide: to see) games not audio games.

Earth

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Last I knew we were playing video (latin, vide: to see) games not audio games.
Dot dot dot.

FlamingMetroid

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for those who think this is an actual problem, may I redirect you to:
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/

fenix

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Last I knew we were playing video (latin, vide: to see) games not audio games.
Oh okay, so the previous analogies of rock concert and action movie are OH SO RELEVANT, right?

gtfo.

Arkantos

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger View Post
Last I knew we were playing video (latin, vide: to see) games not audio games.
The whole point of his analogy was that you don't need to see the mad king during the event, just like you don't need to see your CD player while listening to music. It's not that hard to understand.