Do you Play or Farm?
garethporlest18
In another time I did used to farm, and play. I did both. Right now I usually stand around Shing Jea for 95% of my time, there might be 1% time of farming for events (like Halloween) and then the rest of the time might be spent doing RA, or Costume Brawl or Snowball Arena or Dragon Arena. But usually it's just me in Shing Jea for now.
A11Eur0
Both...mostly farm though but will do missions and quests when so inclined. I still need to get characters through nightfall for treasure hunting.
Zomgyogi
Last time I actually farmed was maybe last November. Other then that all I do is work on titles with the occasional dungeon or something. None of the repetative farming I get too bored.
Dmitri3
Farming bores my mind. So, I play. Do missions, do PvP, test builds...
And even if I don't farm, I still get bored of GW once in a while. In that case, I know that I already played too much and take a break to return in force a bit later.
And even if I don't farm, I still get bored of GW once in a while. In that case, I know that I already played too much and take a break to return in force a bit later.
cosyfiep
play, farming is just too .......repetitive for me to do more than 2 times in a role (I tried over the halloween event for the termite legs et.al. after one run I just cant do it again).
I have 16 characters that I play regularly, they have goals (like finishing all their quests, getting prot, mapping, etc). and if I get tired of one area I play a different character in another one for the time being.
no reason to farm either (dont need fancy weapons, or fow--its ugly).
I have 16 characters that I play regularly, they have goals (like finishing all their quests, getting prot, mapping, etc). and if I get tired of one area I play a different character in another one for the time being.
no reason to farm either (dont need fancy weapons, or fow--its ugly).
Shasgaliel
I am too busy playing to waste my time on farming. I did 4 raptor runs in a row once.... Never again.
MiraBlackhand
I play in that I always clear every campaign and I play for max titles on the reputations that effect skills (sunspear, lightbringer, pve title tracks, etc.) and then I PvP.
Once I have most of the PvE taken care of on a character, I farm, or run elite content (which is actually quite profitable in itself, even in balanced non-speed teams). I generally aim for ~100k every 2-3 days as that is about as much as I spend on new gear.
Once I have most of the PvE taken care of on a character, I farm, or run elite content (which is actually quite profitable in itself, even in balanced non-speed teams). I generally aim for ~100k every 2-3 days as that is about as much as I spend on new gear.
cataphract
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Originally Posted by dilan155
Im curious to know if you come to either farm in GW or just play the game. I think one of the biggest problems in GW is how unstable the economy is.
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As for playing and farming - I do both. These last 10 days have been farming days for me and I suspect for a lot of people too. With my modest farm time during these past days, I've accumulated over 600k worth of drops, items and ToT bags. From my perspective, that's a helluva lot of gold since I don't have anything to spend it on. This event being over, I can now return to my regular schedule - running around capping elites and HM missions with my dear ele.
So, in conclusion: playing = yes, farming = only during events.
Chucky333
Why would you farm if you have no intention to play the actual game? this question makes no sense.
Unless of course you find farming fun, which is just stupid...
Unless of course you find farming fun, which is just stupid...
the_jos
Play only, some solo-farming for festival items (2 hours/week max)
MiraBlackhand
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Originally Posted by Chucky333
Why would you farm if you have no intention to play the actual game? this question makes no sense.
Unless of course you find farming fun, which is just stupid... |
I personally see 0 point in maxing titles on things that don't give you an edge, so once I have all the campaigns primaries beaten, all the skills, all the heroes, maxed heroes, etc. I just farm. I find it fun. Not to mention how many people do you see with heroes running around in tormented shields and high end weapons?
I think I am running out of ways to spend my gold... already throwing it into FoW and elite armor sets I won't use and upgrading all my heroes to elite skinned items... bleh this game is too casual.
Amnel Ithtirsol
You need a balance between farming and playing.
I was getting tired of the title grind so the last couple of weeks I've been farming and running UW SC way too much...
I guess farming is required though because some of the titles cost you an arm and a leg to buy outright. So I was farming as many Grogs and ToTs as I could to cut down on that expense. Other than that the raptors & veattirs {sp} are a nice source of golds for wisdom. Black and white dyes, lockpicks and the occasional nice upgrade from them also helps.
UW SC farming was another matter altogether... The hope of getting an eblade will make you run in there with a fail-PuG 100 times a day, lol. Glad I'm over it
I'll go on guild runs but I don't see myself PuGGing there again soon.
(Oh, this post assumes title grinding = playing the game)
I was getting tired of the title grind so the last couple of weeks I've been farming and running UW SC way too much...
I guess farming is required though because some of the titles cost you an arm and a leg to buy outright. So I was farming as many Grogs and ToTs as I could to cut down on that expense. Other than that the raptors & veattirs {sp} are a nice source of golds for wisdom. Black and white dyes, lockpicks and the occasional nice upgrade from them also helps.
UW SC farming was another matter altogether... The hope of getting an eblade will make you run in there with a fail-PuG 100 times a day, lol. Glad I'm over it
I'll go on guild runs but I don't see myself PuGGing there again soon.
(Oh, this post assumes title grinding = playing the game)
nkuvu
I do both.
I don't farm as much as I play normally, but I do farm every once in a while. But I'm also counting things like "clear Flame Temple Corridor" as farming -- going out with a level 20 character with the sole intention of killing things for trophies (Charr Carvings in that area, obviously).
Short farming runs bore me to death. The raptor nestling run in normal mode is something I can only do once or twice (but it's better in hard mode). I can't even imagine doing HFFF. But going out to clear an area takes some time, and I can do this with just about any high level character, so there's more variety than the short, typical farming runs.
And yes, I find farming fun. I occasionally enjoy the mindless gameplay.
I don't farm as much as I play normally, but I do farm every once in a while. But I'm also counting things like "clear Flame Temple Corridor" as farming -- going out with a level 20 character with the sole intention of killing things for trophies (Charr Carvings in that area, obviously).
Short farming runs bore me to death. The raptor nestling run in normal mode is something I can only do once or twice (but it's better in hard mode). I can't even imagine doing HFFF. But going out to clear an area takes some time, and I can do this with just about any high level character, so there's more variety than the short, typical farming runs.
And yes, I find farming fun. I occasionally enjoy the mindless gameplay.
Ate of DK
I PLAY PvP.
I PLAY missions and dungeons when guildies need help or when I feel like helping others.
I FARM only during special weekends when Halloween items drop or Grogs.
I AFK in the GuildHall otherwise.
I PLAY missions and dungeons when guildies need help or when I feel like helping others.
I FARM only during special weekends when Halloween items drop or Grogs.
I AFK in the GuildHall otherwise.
Banane-O-Man
I play PvE, farm sometimes, do some HA that I started recently.
Voodoo Rage
OK, let me defend some of the farmers. I am a hardcore raptor farmer. Most of my GW time is spent killing the same 30 raptors and boss over and over to save up money to buy everlasting tonics and other "epeen" stuff. Is that lame? Sure it is. Is it any lamer than playing the same game of solitaire or tetris over and over again? Let's not kid ourselves, almost every GW quest is pretty much killing mobs of monsters over and over again. How much different is that than farming?
The reality is that I don't really have a lot of uninterrupted time to devote to a quest. At any time I might have to stop what I am doing to and walk away from my computer to deal with my family. That rules out a lot of various GW activities unfortunately.
The reality is that I don't really have a lot of uninterrupted time to devote to a quest. At any time I might have to stop what I am doing to and walk away from my computer to deal with my family. That rules out a lot of various GW activities unfortunately.
Striken7
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OK, let me defend some of the farmers. I am a hardcore raptor farmer. Most of my GW time is spent killing the same 30 raptors and boss over and over to save up money to buy everlasting tonics and other "epeen" stuff. Is that lame? Sure it is. Is it any lamer than playing the same game of solitaire or tetris over and over again?
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Solas
I never really got into farming, ran missions instead.
only really farm on special weekends that are really nice, i.e. easter. last one i did was easter, doubt i'll do any but easter.
only really farm on special weekends that are really nice, i.e. easter. last one i did was easter, doubt i'll do any but easter.
Voodoo Rage
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but it sounds more like your trying to find excuses for enjoying farming rather then just saying you enjoy farming.
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eximiis
I play ...... other games !!
GW is getting way too boring !
GW is getting way too boring !
snaek
i farm nubs in pvp
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oh and to teh farmers out there that say they like farming...
would u still be doin em if u didnt get any money or rewards from it?
or if missions/quests gave out better money and better rewards than farming, would u rather farm than do missions?
simply put
most ppl dun do farming because they enjoy farming
they farm because they enjoy the rewards
(i say most, not everyone...some ppl actually do enjoy farming for farming)
but the majority farm for the "end" and not the "means"
oh and another thought...
there are those that are actually good at playin this game
and there are those that r good at makin money
farmers/moneymakers get money and nice loot as a reward
skilled players get...what? titles??
thats wut i thought at first
but anet fails at titles...
and so its usually teh farmers/moneymakers that earn titles
so wut good reward is there for actually bein good at this game?
ranks?
farmers can buy that too
gold trim?
farmers can buy that too
so wut hasnt the farmers/moneymakers corrupted in this game?
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oh and to teh farmers out there that say they like farming...
would u still be doin em if u didnt get any money or rewards from it?
or if missions/quests gave out better money and better rewards than farming, would u rather farm than do missions?
simply put
most ppl dun do farming because they enjoy farming
they farm because they enjoy the rewards
(i say most, not everyone...some ppl actually do enjoy farming for farming)
but the majority farm for the "end" and not the "means"
oh and another thought...
there are those that are actually good at playin this game
and there are those that r good at makin money
farmers/moneymakers get money and nice loot as a reward
skilled players get...what? titles??
thats wut i thought at first
but anet fails at titles...
and so its usually teh farmers/moneymakers that earn titles
so wut good reward is there for actually bein good at this game?
ranks?
farmers can buy that too
gold trim?
farmers can buy that too
so wut hasnt the farmers/moneymakers corrupted in this game?
imnotyourmother
Farm and SELL farm and sell and buy and then sell and farm. or i mix things up and sell and then buy and then sell and then farm. or even buy and farm and then sell.
but mostly sell and buy and farm
but mostly sell and buy and farm
persuadu
Remember when Farming used to be called grinding? Whether its gold, titles, items, whatever. The bottom line is if you want to have the things that others dont have, you must be willing to do the things others are not willing to do, such as grinding/farming.
Now the havenots who are willnots look at those who have and do, and shout "unfair" unto the ears of the devs and they take the obamaesque attitude that even though you didnt work for it, you should be able to have it, or the ones who are working for it shall have it taken away.
Whats next? GW taxes? You have to give 20% of all your ectos and plat to those who have less than 250k in storage?
If someone has somehting that you want, DO THE WORK to get it for yourself, instead of crying because you dont have a sin or an ele, or you dont have R10 Norn or a stack of ectos, or whatever you think someone else is doing or has that you find unfair.
If Anet was serious, they would have nerfed the PERMASIN a long time ago. Instead, they take half measures and nerf EC. I still dont understand that.
Now the havenots who are willnots look at those who have and do, and shout "unfair" unto the ears of the devs and they take the obamaesque attitude that even though you didnt work for it, you should be able to have it, or the ones who are working for it shall have it taken away.
Whats next? GW taxes? You have to give 20% of all your ectos and plat to those who have less than 250k in storage?
If someone has somehting that you want, DO THE WORK to get it for yourself, instead of crying because you dont have a sin or an ele, or you dont have R10 Norn or a stack of ectos, or whatever you think someone else is doing or has that you find unfair.
If Anet was serious, they would have nerfed the PERMASIN a long time ago. Instead, they take half measures and nerf EC. I still dont understand that.
chessyang
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Im curious to know if you come to either farm in GW or just play the game.
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snaek
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Originally Posted by persaudu
If someone has somehting that you want, DO THE WORK to get it for yourself, instead of crying because you dont have a sin or an ele, or you dont have R10 Norn or a stack of ectos, or whatever you think someone else is doing or has that you find unfair.
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teh prob is that its skilled farmer players vs skilled non-farmer players
why do u get rewarded for being good at farming?
while those that r good at other aspects of this game get very little in comparison?
anets been tryin to make remedies,
but imo things like titles and zkeys hurt just as much as it helps
because farmers jump all over that crap too and "ruin" it
its like the factory-line worker for a shoe company is makin more money than the person who owns the dam company
does that make sense??
Dmitri3
snaek, IMHO, you're looking at this wrong. People who enjoy the game and just play the way they want to, don't care at all about large stacks of gold and getting big title. Translation: They play to enjoy the game and don't give a rat's ass about their imaginative rep.
Usual grinders (not farmers) gain immense satisfaction from reaching their set goals or finishing all goals (people getting all titles, filling HoM). It's all nice but they don't realize the game is spent once they've done it.
Farmers, well, they enjoy hard work for their hard earned gold. Include in random drops and it turns into people who are actually stuck is some kind virtual casino... only they bet their time and gain virtual money/items.
As you see, I didn't mention people who are good/bad. That's simply cause it's debatable. You can be good one day, rubbish another. You can understand one class, but suck at second one. Some people see you as a god, while others see you as incompetent.
If you know you're good, you don't need anyone or anything to prove it to you.
Usual grinders (not farmers) gain immense satisfaction from reaching their set goals or finishing all goals (people getting all titles, filling HoM). It's all nice but they don't realize the game is spent once they've done it.
Farmers, well, they enjoy hard work for their hard earned gold. Include in random drops and it turns into people who are actually stuck is some kind virtual casino... only they bet their time and gain virtual money/items.
As you see, I didn't mention people who are good/bad. That's simply cause it's debatable. You can be good one day, rubbish another. You can understand one class, but suck at second one. Some people see you as a god, while others see you as incompetent.
If you know you're good, you don't need anyone or anything to prove it to you.
UnChosen
I play....aka quest/mission/farm. I seriously don't see how farming is more boring than those people that move around a mission/quest letting their saabway H/H doing all the work. Yes, I've heard people saying how all pugs suck because they can /dance with H/H and still win >.>, and then proceed to complaining about farmers...
Sir Seifus Halbred
I guess both. I only PvP now a days, but playing RA earns me balth faction which gets me z-keys.
cognophile
Nowadays, mostly farm HFFF, for title grind and cash. Theory being that I would either max out kurz title or get sick of the game.
After that, do title grinding toward 30 maxed titles. Assuming pvp titles are not maxable, there are 27 titles can realistically be maxed out by "playing" (vanq. (4), cart. (4), skill hunter (4), guard./prot. (7), eotn (5), ss/lb (2), survivor/ascalon (1)). That leaves three more which are either exceedingly time consuming (kurz/lux), require large amounts of items or cash (sweet tooth, party animal, drunkard), or both (treasure hunter, wisdom, lucky, unlucky).
Long ago, I used to enjoy playing in areas like tombs, urgoz's, and doa. Basically, areas which required teamwork among human players. However, these have become a "waste of time", since I began my title grind. After hitting 30, I plan to get into pvp a bit more ...
After that, do title grinding toward 30 maxed titles. Assuming pvp titles are not maxable, there are 27 titles can realistically be maxed out by "playing" (vanq. (4), cart. (4), skill hunter (4), guard./prot. (7), eotn (5), ss/lb (2), survivor/ascalon (1)). That leaves three more which are either exceedingly time consuming (kurz/lux), require large amounts of items or cash (sweet tooth, party animal, drunkard), or both (treasure hunter, wisdom, lucky, unlucky).
Long ago, I used to enjoy playing in areas like tombs, urgoz's, and doa. Basically, areas which required teamwork among human players. However, these have become a "waste of time", since I began my title grind. After hitting 30, I plan to get into pvp a bit more ...
dilan155
for those who say that im complaining about farmers, I'm NOT complaining, i made this clear in the OP. what i was after was to see the ratio of farmers to actual players. im not suggesting they remove farming, not at all, rather balance the rewards from farming those of missions and dungeons. If you get 2k for a 2+ hour dungeon vs 10k+ for 15-20 mins of farming,your obviously gonna do the farming, unless you hate farming and/or dont need the money.
there are many players who say they are immune to epeen, i have seen very few players who are. anyone who does wield a max weapon with max mods while that item is of non-rareness, now those i will call without epeen. anyone who wear 1k armor those i will call without epeen. epeen is as much a part of humanity as is our ability to learn better than any other species, yet discovered, on this planet.
By increasing the reward on the missions and dungeons will encourage players to do something other than farming. title grinding is of other matters and they ARE addressing to reduce the title grid.
if you make the rewards fairly equal, those who like to farm can farm and those who like to do mission, dungeons can do that. and persuadu if you think doing a mission/dungeon to get to a certain goal, monetry or otherwise, is not working hard towards that goal, then you need to explain that to me.
there are many players who say they are immune to epeen, i have seen very few players who are. anyone who does wield a max weapon with max mods while that item is of non-rareness, now those i will call without epeen. anyone who wear 1k armor those i will call without epeen. epeen is as much a part of humanity as is our ability to learn better than any other species, yet discovered, on this planet.
By increasing the reward on the missions and dungeons will encourage players to do something other than farming. title grinding is of other matters and they ARE addressing to reduce the title grid.
if you make the rewards fairly equal, those who like to farm can farm and those who like to do mission, dungeons can do that. and persuadu if you think doing a mission/dungeon to get to a certain goal, monetry or otherwise, is not working hard towards that goal, then you need to explain that to me.
Voodoo Rage
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oh and to teh farmers out there that say they like farming... would u still be doin em if u didnt get any money or rewards from it? |
Maybe a solution would be to reward people who complete dungeons with unique customized weapons that by their very nature of not being something you could buy or trade would be very prestigious in their own right. The dungeon rewards are really a pittance compared to the time involved.
byteme!
Anet tried to give non-farmers better rewards with the introduction of dungeon specific end chests. Unfortunately we have a player driven economy which greatly effects how much a reward we can get.
Examples:
The Deep - Dragon Scythe (since inception this item never really hit the big bucks for anyone). Demand wasn't there and The Deep is a ghost town aside from the occasional guild teams.
Wyvern Blade - This item is classified as rare and yet since release it's never been a hot seller either.
Voltaic Spear - Not rare. Easy to farm. Lots of demand as well. People want this and have always been willing to shell out the big bucks for this.
Anyways what I'm trying to get at is Anets tried to improve the rewards for team play without actually handing out free gold. Unfortunately due to our player driven economy some of the things we do in-game just don't seem worthwhile as far as the whole time/reward thing goes. The end result is players feeling disappointed or frustrated and asking for more.
@OP I do both. I can't stick to 1 task for too long. Gets boring nowadays. Variety is the spice of life and GW.
Examples:
The Deep - Dragon Scythe (since inception this item never really hit the big bucks for anyone). Demand wasn't there and The Deep is a ghost town aside from the occasional guild teams.
Wyvern Blade - This item is classified as rare and yet since release it's never been a hot seller either.
Voltaic Spear - Not rare. Easy to farm. Lots of demand as well. People want this and have always been willing to shell out the big bucks for this.
Anyways what I'm trying to get at is Anets tried to improve the rewards for team play without actually handing out free gold. Unfortunately due to our player driven economy some of the things we do in-game just don't seem worthwhile as far as the whole time/reward thing goes. The end result is players feeling disappointed or frustrated and asking for more.
@OP I do both. I can't stick to 1 task for too long. Gets boring nowadays. Variety is the spice of life and GW.
a-kyle
I farm rep points
Alleji
I farm Kurzicks in AB.
(I haven't read the thread, but I bet this answer is totally new and original)
(I haven't read the thread, but I bet this answer is totally new and original)
Marty Silverblade
When I'm on I play. Some random PvP, though mostly PvE.
Shadowhaze
I do both. If there's an event on, sometimes I'll farm for a while otherwise I'm usually playing on various chars. Depends if I need money for something too. 
Antares Ascending
A little of each.
I tend to play for a while..find something I like and go after it...Farm time!
Farming also qualifies as a good aggression release as well as mindless fun :P
I tend to play for a while..find something I like and go after it...Farm time!
Farming also qualifies as a good aggression release as well as mindless fun :P
Owik Gall
Farming is boring for me. I play and make any little excuse to set aside farming for goodies. My one big excuse to avoid farming is AB. PvP is a lot more fun.
killerbot3009
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i farm nubs in pvp
edit: oh and to teh farmers out there that say they like farming... would u still be doin em if u didnt get any money or rewards from it? or if missions/quests gave out better money and better rewards than farming, would u rather farm than do missions? simply put most ppl dun do farming because they enjoy farming they farm because they enjoy the rewards (i say most, not everyone...some ppl actually do enjoy farming for farming) but the majority farm for the "end" and not the "means" oh and another thought... there are those that are actually good at playin this game and there are those that r good at makin money farmers/moneymakers get money and nice loot as a reward skilled players get...what? titles?? thats wut i thought at first but anet fails at titles... and so its usually teh farmers/moneymakers that earn titles so wut good reward is there for actually bein good at this game? ranks? farmers can buy that too gold trim? farmers can buy that too so wut hasnt the farmers/moneymakers corrupted in this game? |
i farm, Gvg, HA and do missions, i only farm to make cash to buy new weapons/armour, then i gvg/HA for Z keys and titles.
i dont think many people actually farm because of one reason, or farm for one reason, as what is that point of having obsidian armour, eternal blades and BDS's if u only ever farm, and no will will really pay attention to the amount of time you have wasted. i have obsidian armour, but only cos i like to look good in pvp. end of
A11Eur0
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g'damn dude, learn some spelling and grammar. Kiddie-speak doesn't make you look cool.
Anyway...farming is there to be able to afford to get what you want when you want it. If you don't farm, don't whine and cry when you don't get that uber-1337 e-blade or bone dragon staff that someone else has. Don't sit there and scream LUCKY when someone has better stuff than you. They very likely worked their asses off for that swag and they deserve to not be bugged for money/stuff/help. They have no obligation to share their wealth with you or anyone else.
I get tired of walking out in a pug or helping a guildie, them seeing my upper-deck gear/armor and having them say "omg man gimme gimme gimme".