Assassin Build for AB

B A T M A N

B A T M A N

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2008

A/

Could someone please help me with a good alliance battle build for a sin I would greatly appreciate it: thx Batman

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

[ToA]

[golden fox strike][wild strike][shattering assault][flurry]+whatever
[golden fox strike][wild strike][death blossom][way of the assassin]+whatever
[golden fox strike][wild strike][death blossom][moebius strike][flurry]+whatever
all work fine,use critical defenses/critical eye/ect depending on what your team has in it.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

'Sins are pretty weak in PvP for the most part, but...

[shadow prison] / [hidden caltrops][tiger stance][black mantis thrust][jungle strike][trampling ox][falling lotus strike][twisting fangs]

[shove][falling lotus strike][horns of the ox][falling spider][twisting fangs][shadow walk][dash][healing signet]

Wiki would be your best reference for the rest.

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by wind fire and ice View Post
[golden fox strike][wild strike][shattering assault][flurry]+whatever
[golden fox strike][wild strike][death blossom][way of the assassin]+whatever
[golden fox strike][wild strike][death blossom][moebius strike][flurry]+whatever
all work fine,use critical defenses/critical eye/ect depending on what your team has in it. AB isn't PvE.

@ OP: laziness ftw amirite?
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page
Good Luck

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Assassins really can't do much besides that to a decent extent.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

That bar is pretty terrible.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

you dont need ias for 2 attack skills, and most good bars are all offense.

read the video description. it's for killing npcs and solo capping, which it would do pretty well. but if you dont want to do that, dont run the build.

lordunicorn3

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2008

Paris

E/Me

:-( I remember when sins were actually good in pvp an ab. Now that they are not I don't even pvp anymore. And ya just look on wiki for builds

turbo234

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

WI

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X View Post
you dont need ias for 2 attack skills, and most good bars are all offense.

read the video description. it's for killing npcs and solo capping, which it would do pretty well. but if you dont want to do that, dont run the build. lol
lalala12charslalala

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by wind fire and ice View Post
AB is basically pve-any one who tries to run spike builds with 15-30s recharges is doing no good.
Regardless, any Sin (melee for that matter) without Deep Wound should gtfo of all forms of PvP. Try this A/D, for instance...

Dagger 12+1+1
Crit 7+1
Shadow 6+1
Wind 9
[golden lotus [email protected]][golden fang [email protected]][trampling [email protected]][falling [email protected]][blades of [email protected]][grenth's [email protected]][feigned [email protected]][whirling [email protected]]

DW + BoS whoring, 10 sec recharge wtf? Use your imagination

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

I run Bobby2's build but I carry [Recall] instead of Feigned. I prefer the quick retreat.

Try that build, its works quite well.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

[build prof=A/W dag=12+1+1 crit=9+1 tac=9][shove][falling lotus strike][twisting fangs][golden phoenix strike][blades of steel][assassin's remedy][shadow walk][dash][/build]

better mobility with shadowstepping and totally bypasses the aftercast/disabling for instaspikes. it's slower though, and lack a heal.

Balky

Balky

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

UK

ARGH

R/Mo

[QUOTE=Bobby2;]Regardless, any Sin (melee for that matter) without Deep Wound should gtfo of all forms of PvP.
Damn, i better not play AB anymore and beat up on warriors cause i don`t use Deep Wound

MY A/R build ( though i don`t tend to use R skills unless i go interrupt ) i run supe runes of CS and DM + mask , nightstalkers insig on guise and legs giving 85 armour on those locations while attacking, also clarity and purity runes, daggers i switch between 20/20 and silencing
DM 14 ( with runes )
CS 14 ( with Runes )
SA 10
where you put the last point is up to you

Build i usually use is, Critical Eye, Critical Defences, Way of Perfection

Unsuspecting Strike, Wild Blow, Critical Strike, Mobeius or Beguiling Haze for elite ( dependant on whether i want to brawl with warrs more or deal with casters )

last slot varies between deaths charge or distrupting strike.

Heres how it works, with runes crit eye gives 28% chance to crit ,way of pefection heals on every crit, crit eye gives 1 extra energy on crit so.... every crit gives 4 energy, 30hp back and renews defences, in addition i have a 28% chance to double strike on any attack, which also can give the energy, health and renew as i crit on some of those too.

My unsuspecting does anywhere between 120 to 130 damage on first hit on a new foe, wild strips any stance, critical strike which is an automatic crit dual attack then gives 60 health back, 14 total energy and renews defence, if it`s a warr i can start back down the attack chain ( assuming mobieus isn`t equipped ) if it is i throw in mobeius, then restart attack chain as warr will still be above 75% health normally and keep going, eventually i`ll get him below 50% in which case i just keep with crit strikes and mobieus.

Obviously if i`m blinded its better to bail than stand even with the clarity rune.

At the end o the day though, you pick a build you like and that suits your skills and the way you`re set up.


NO build is perfect for every occasion or every mob/foe you encounter

Good luck n good hunting.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

I had fun with this:
[build prof=a/mo box dead=12+1+1 heal=12][deadly paradox][dancing daggers][entangling asp][signet of toxic shock][augury of death][word of healing][mending touch][dash][/build]

or run what strong and sexy moriz said.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

@Balky:

Why are you running two superiors in PvP?

Balky

Balky

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

UK

ARGH

R/Mo

Couple of reasons Tyla, 1) Can`t be bothered to get More Imperial Elite Armour to swop them out. 2) They enable me to bring my shadow arts up to lvl 10, which is handy for the 30hp heal on a crit and the 7 sec daze on Beguiling if i equip it and go hunting casters ( or anyone else i bounce up to ) with my silencing`s.


Yeah i know, " conventional wisdom says, 2 supes is bad " well i say bollocks to conventional wisdom....according to that i can`t go toe to toe with a 800hp warr with 100 armour.......yet i do it all the time lol

Balky

Balky

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

UK

ARGH

R/Mo

Couple of reasons Tyla, 1) Can`t be bothered to get More Imperial Elite Armour to swop them out. 2) They enable me to bring my shadow arts up to lvl 10, which is handy for the 30hp heal on a crit and the 7 sec daze on Beguiling if i equip it and go hunting casters ( or anyone else i bounce up to ) with my silencing`s.


Yeah i know, " conventional wisdom says, 2 supes is bad " well i say bollocks to conventional wisdom....according to that i can`t go toe to toe with a 800hp warr with 100 armour.......yet i do it all the time lol

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Balky View Post
Couple of reasons Tyla, 1) Can`t be bothered to get More Imperial Elite Armour to swop them out.
Ever heard of these nifty things called "PvP Characters"?

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2) They enable me to bring my shadow arts up to lvl 10, which is handy for the 30hp heal on a crit and the 7 sec daze on Beguiling if i equip it and go hunting casters ( or anyone else i bounce up to ) with my silencing`s. So you kill yourself by reducing your survivability heavily?


Quote:
Yeah i know, " conventional wisdom says, 2 supes is bad " well i say bollocks to conventional wisdom....according to that i can`t go toe to toe with a 800hp warr with 100 armour.......yet i do it all the time lol Nice argument.

Balky

Balky

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

UK

ARGH

R/Mo

Actually iv`e found i crit so much i heal myself constantly lol, and i don`t want a pvp only char, i do swop my mask out though if i go ranger as its +4 DM, and no point if i`m using a bow.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

I can't believe I'm actually replying to that with even the most useless post here.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by various scrubs
That bar is pretty terrible.

dont use that build. no ias and its almost all offense.

That's just bad.........................................

lol
lalala12charslalala
riiight, so you just ignore the fact that none of the builds posted here can do what that build does (kill targets in rapid succession with literally no downtime, while stylishly shadowstepping back and forth very ninja-like). the only requirement is that you must be sure AP will trigger.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Igor I had fun with this: good lord that's awful.
Quote: No, that bar is bad.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Balky
Build i usually use is, Critical Eye, Critical Defences, Way of Perfection

Unsuspecting Strike, Wild Blow, Critical Strike, Mobeius or Beguiling Haze for elite replace unsuspecting with golden fox. you mean wild strike. if you really want to run a superior rune, only use 1. or go double major. you can replace the rune without changing your armor by double clicking on it then clicking on the armor part.

Krill

Krill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

America

[build=OwFi0xjMtUowkwY8hwUYgVMBB]
[build=OwFjMxd6ISmFGfIMKM8P8VTQXFA]
[build=Owpkoyd6I+JkAEx3VoCD/DCG3GuD]
[build=OwZjggd74SCQEfJMKM8PxZaVdDA]
[build=OwFj4hd8oSAQ9PXhGf8PJQjP0ZA]
[build=OwZjgMecHTnDKMJMGf8PJQvZDMA]

Go go gadget gank. FGJ still works "ok" for BB sin in AB.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X View Post
riiight, so you just ignore the fact that none of the builds posted here can do what that build does (kill targets in rapid succession with literally no downtime, while stylishly shadowstepping back and forth very ninja-like). the only requirement is that you must be sure AP will trigger.
good lord that's awful. No it isnt, at least better than stuff you post.

Thanks for proving that you have never played anything aside of ra though.

Deadly arts sins can allow high att investment in their secondary attribute, assuming its never bad to have a self heal in ab pugs woh makes a good one. Damage is decent - standard assacaster, has speedboost, condition removal, self heal. Everything you need in AB so I dont see how its bad.

Also, adamptation from a meta hero battles capper mkay.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

HAHA CYTHEREA DID A FUNNY - Scrubs calling other people scrubs is funny. Especially since you think that Sinsplit was tactical.

Oh, and Assassins' Promise is bad in PvP. Spikes aren't always going to go through, especially 'Sin spikes.

petrorabbit

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla View Post
HAHA CYTHEREA DID A FUNNY - Scrubs calling other people scrubs is funny. Especially since you think that Sinsplit was tactical.

Oh, and Assassins' Promise is bad in PvP. Spikes aren't always going to go through, especially 'Sin spikes. Oh noes, Tyla has been trolled!

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

I luv versing assassins promise builds... 1 interupt. 1 Block... 1 hex removal and they are useless for 45 seconds... hell most of the time against a player the builds dont even work.

I run this bar in AB... its fun, it uses my favourite elite AoD... and was brilliant before they stuffed shadowsteps.. still fun and works coz its AB.

[Aura of Displacement][Mark of Instability][Golden Phoenix Strike][Twisting Fangs][Falling Lotus Strike][Blades of Steel][Dash][Optional]. Good timing, and placement of AoD is quite useful, sometimes better then a self heal. If you anchor urself at the monk shrine, then you can get back there real easy, etc. Also optional is for a self heal. I like heart of shadow. When you get a melee train on you heart of shadow, then end AoD... quite fun.

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Balky View Post
MY A/R build ( though i don`t tend to use R skills unless i go interrupt ) i run supe runes of CS and DM + mask , nightstalkers insig on guise and legs giving 85 armour on those locations while attacking, also clarity and purity runes, daggers i switch between 20/20 and silencing
DM 14 ( with runes )
CS 14 ( with Runes )
SA 10
where you put the last point is up to you

...leaving you with a mighteh 405 Health. Mebbe less.
Fiiiiix'd.

All kinds of fail. Too much to bother with, tbfh. Though; thanks for making instagib possible again, I wish there were more people like you in AB.

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X good lord that's better than what I posted. Moar fix'ded.

Brave Moriz is Brave but build lacks KDlock and/or snare (which screwed me over some when I ran it).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luminarus
I luv versing assassins promise builds... 1 interupt. 1 Block... 1 hex removal and they are useless for 45 seconds... hell most of the time against a player the builds dont even work. It's almost as funny as watching a Sin cast CritDef, than casually kiting it off. Almost.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

assassins are only strong in pvp arena that features a) lots of open spaces and movement and b) dumb players.

that basically limits it down to two arenas: alliance battles (aka assassin battles), which features both; and hero battles, which features dumb AI substituting for dumb players, and lots of movement running between shrines.

in every other arena, they are weak purely for the fact that there are better characters you can run in that spot.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

Quote:
Deadly arts sins can allow high att investment in their secondary attribute, assuming its never bad to have a self heal in ab pugs woh makes a good one. Damage is decent - standard assacaster, has speedboost, condition removal, self heal. Everything you need in AB so I dont see how its bad.
its damage blows. nonexistent e-management. and it literally looks dumb in action, not stylish at all. the one i posted is much better.

Quote:
Originally Posted by more scrubs
Oh, and Assassins' Promise is bad in PvP. Spikes aren't always going to go through, especially 'Sin spikes.

I luv versing assassins promise builds... 1 interupt. 1 Block... 1 hex removal and they are useless for 45 seconds... hell most of the time against a player the builds dont even work. that's why you hit shrines with nobody around. must everything be spelled out for you.

Unreal Havoc

Guest

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Igor View Post
I had fun with this:
[build prof=a/mo box dead=12+1+1 heal=12][deadly paradox][dancing daggers][entangling asp][signet of toxic shock][augury of death][word of healing][mending touch][dash][/build]
Lol, I used to run that in AB back before Deadly Paradox got nerfed, I used to run Return over Dash though for instant teleport to Monk to remove Daze.

Quote: Originally Posted by X Cytherea X View Post
just watch this video okay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2km4JA32joE

you're welcome That is painfully slow, and pretty much useless against players that are half decent bar the odd spike against a poor caster who doesn't know how to play. Not only is it vulnerable against melee and caster counters but also against the most basic of all things, healing! If you want to cap shrines solo (god knows why you aren't with your team in AB, and if you are you most certainly don't need to run this) take a Nuker.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X View Post
its damage blows. nonexistent e-management. and it literally looks dumb in action, not stylish at all. the one i posted is much better.
What you have posted isnt better and is no way "stylish". LOL an AP sin in pvp killing the dummies outside isle of nameless oshi what a skiel you can kill the dummies.

AP sins are bad in pvp, first you might not kill you target, second ap can be removed and you end up siting there waiting for your shadowstep to recharge.

And no, my build doesnt look dumb, you have ossum dagger throwing action and can run around staying alive swiftly showing off your aweasome armor and weapons wasting time of noobs who die trying to catch you. Thats what AB is for amirite? And you can do the damage.

You're still calling people scrubs? I'm still finding it funny. 'Sin fanboys... scrub.

Oh, and is it any use outside of hitting bad players or NPC's? I didn't need it to be spelt out. If so, your build is quite bad. Bars that can't do anything outside of hit NPC's and bad players (or should I say terribad instead?) constantly are... bad?

Oh, and I'll quote this for the lolz.

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X
and sinsplit era was very tactical Fail.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMSDome
I hope you were joking when you typed this because sins are very strong in PvP, are you sure you are thinking of the right class? I hope you were trolling when you typed this, because 'Sins are very bad in PvP. Are you thinking of the right class?