only 13 year olds play PvE

The undead Mesmer

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

Only 13 year olds play PvE.

That is what my guild leader said he is a big PvP fan and when i start talking about PvE he doesnt says annything only that. Is this true or completely wrong i am 15 years old and i like PvE above PvP wich in my opinion sucks if you whanna play PvP do a FPS they are made for that.
anny comments or do you think that my leader stinks

Ray

Ray

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Denmark

Your leader is wrong o_o

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Face the facts bud, this game was made for PvP. Not just PvP, but still.

Silent

Silent

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Northern Ireland

E/R

Na, some people prefer to just play games in an RPG kind of sense, like me. I don't like the fast paced combat of PvP and just prefer to just play Guild Wars as a story, have done since it was released. I've dabbled in PvP a few times but didn't find it all that much fun.

The undead Mesmer

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

Dont start flaming Sekkira give me a good argument i didnt ask for things like that i said.

Do only 13 year olds play PvE?

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

NO they dont seeing as i am considerably older. Therefor such a statment is incorrect.

The undead Mesmer

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

Thats a correct answer thanks Herbalizer.

I got another question where did the hatred come from between the PvPers and PvEers? i dont like PvP people but i am not gonna kill them or annything

(ok maybe put some gasoline in their pants but thats all)

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
I got another question where did the hatred come from between the PvPers and PvEers? i dont like PvP people but i am not gonna kill them or annything
I never knew that but from what i hear they are always arguing amongst themselves. I just think they are ultra competitive.

sun is in us

sun is in us

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Organic Soup

Of the Day

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The undead Mesmer
Thats a correct answer thanks Herbalizer.

I got another question where did the hatred come from between the PvPers and PvEers? i dont like PvP people but i am not gonna kill them or annything
I tried to respond but the server died....I don't have the heart to type it out alll again.

But this in your search engine: Player vs player wikipedia

Should help you understand whey PVE and PVP divided......

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

Not to make broad sweeping generalizations here ... but it's only natural that PvP is much more competitive, that people take it more seriously and get wound-up tighter about it, and voila: you have tension between the two factions. Avid PvE'ers get mad at the PvP'ers for being too overbearing, the PvP'ers are mad at the PvE folks for being too lax. A vicious circle.

Personally, I like to do a bit of both PvE and PvP ... however I can separate myself from it enough to realize that it is just a game and is meant to be fun. So whichever is your preference, great!

dbgtboy

dbgtboy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

irl

i quit playing

Quote:
Originally Posted by The undead Mesmer
I got another question where did the hatred come from between the PvPers and PvEers?
because all the elitist jackasses go crazy whenever a new guy asks something about pvp, im a pvper btw and have nothing against pvers.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

13 (+ 20) here, and I play mostly PvE at the moment.

I'd play more PvP but It's just me, Savio and Divine Gal in our guild thus far. We're always saving Savio's ass....

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

If it's true that only thirteen year olds play PvE, then my Guild is seriously messed up. I'm the only one under twenty .

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Bait sniffed at...and walked away from.

Andy_M

Andy_M

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Worthing, UK

(Don't fear) The Beaver

I'm 34 and treat this game as a reasonably good PvE game (stupid nerfs for no reason notwithstanding) with a nice chat engine. I know many PvP only people. I don't have a problem with them at all but I must admit they do sometimes get angry when I say I have no interest in PvP at all. Which I don't really understand to be honest.

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
I just think they are ultra competitive.
Yeah, I encountered a majority of those players when I PvP sometimes. The game is meant to be fun (as all games are) and not be taken seriously. Winning in a game is not the most important thing in life. Players who get extremely mad when they lose or extremely arrogant (jack***) when they win are.....whatever. Then comes the "leet" speak.

Cartoonhero

Cartoonhero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sooner Nation

Mo/

im 19, and I pve. i'd start looking for a new guild if i were you, if thats the attitude your leader takes about the part of the game you find most entertianing. i just began dabbling in pvp, because i finally got in a large enough guild to learn. im having fun, but i still play pve alot(im on my fifth char). i intend to improve at pvp, and eventually try tombs...but you know, i think everyone should try a little of both. there is always going to be one you like more, but your guild leader seems very closed minded...

Mister Overhill

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Tampa, Florida

Sticks and Stones

R/Rt

Heh, I'm 59 (no joke) this week and I've been gaming a LONG time. PVE only for me, with my all-in-the-family guild ages 14 to 34. A couple of them PVP on the side, but my reflexes are too burned out for gang, er, guild battles.

Splatter Mcnasty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Utah

W/Mo

29 here...only play PVE. I play the game to relax at the end of my work day. I dont like playing with people who are obsessed with winning, so PVP isnt for me.

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
13 (+ 20) here, and I play mostly PvE at the moment.
Great way to put it. I also play PvE primarily.

Oh, and I am 13 (+ 19) if I remember correctly. I stopped counting around 13 ( +12), the last real age milestone before retirement. It's your final age related car insurance rate drop.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
I'd play more PvP but It's just me, Savio and Divine Gal in our guild thus far. We're always saving Savio's ass....
Hey, if I disbanded my 1 man guild, GvE, and joined yours, you would have a large enough guild to PvP, right?

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by The undead Mesmer
Only 13 year olds play PvE.

That is what my guild leader said he is a big PvP fan
That's just a variation of the same old tired bullshit PvP only guys always spout. They don't like PvE, so naturally noone else can either.

Personally I don't like PvP, so obviously only 13 year olds play PvP.

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

23, i'm just over 500 hours in to the game and have played about 20 PvP games, the PvE is great fun for all ages, your guild master in a twonk.

It never interested me till the spangly observer mode came out and showed me the GvG matches and now i plan on getting in to it with my Monk and Ranger.

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

Reddit Guild

R/

Answer?
No, not only 13 year olds play the game.

Story from chris_nin00?...
Yes

Gather around young ones, middle aged ones, and undisclosed ones. Gather around!
Now this tale I'm about to tell you guys is a true story with a moral attached to it. See if you can figure it out.
So sit back, grab a snack, listen to the wondrous story telling of chris_nin00

*Story time*
Once upon a time, there was a boy named chris_nin00. People called him Chris because they don't want to call him a 'ninny' or a 00 agent. He thought very highly of himself and always strived for perfection. Today however he wanted to beat a kid up. Yes, you read right. He wanted to beat a kid up. He was so happy walking along the sidewalk of the park. You want to know why kids?
*You nod your head furiously while someone in the back screams, "eeee-YEA--UH!"*
His 14th birthday had just passed and he got lots of good and fun things from friends and family. He got underwear, boxers, movies, and games, big model toy sets and a remote controlled plane. But he can recall, his most favorite gift of all!!!
Chris breaks in to song...
"Yu-gi-oh! I'm gonna master the cards
Gonna use the heart of the cards..."
On and on he went singing. Until...
"I'll challenge you pipsqueak!" squeals a 9-year-old looking boy, "Yu-gi-oh! Right here right now!"
"It was one of my little brother's friends," thought Chris, "Now's my chance to beat someone up easily... with my Yu-Gi-Oh cards!"
Chris thought this was going to be easy. Think again Chris. Think again.

"I'll start off by summoning, BLUE-EYES-WHITE-DRAGON!!!" Yells the boy.
Blue light flashed everywhere, a roar was heard, and soon Chris was on the ground shocked.
A big dragon stood in front of Chris.
"Your move," says the boy, forebodingly.
Chris gets back up and brushes the dust off. "I can handle this," Chris says to himself, "He's just a little boy"
*Battle scene*
Blah
*End Battle Scene*
The 9 year old screams with delight as he takes Chris's Dark Magician Card.
"See you later sucker!" smirks the boy as he walks away.
The shock on Chris is immense.
"I think there is a moral to this," says Chris, "... I don't get it"...
*End Story time*

Did you kids like my story telling?
The moral of the story is...
I think you are smart enough to infere from it my young ones.
Hint: The Guild leader was Chris! Not me, but Chris in the story!

I hope that lightens up a few things.

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

They did a survey about the avarage gameplayer, the link to that is floating around these forums somewhere.... i lost it

But what it came down to:
-the average gamer is 30
-45% of the gamers is female
-average game buyers are 37 or something
and 7 more facts

Edit: not a forum survey, but a scientific one

Claire Wolf

Claire Wolf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Zephyr Of Tyria [tZoT]

A/

I'm also 15.. I love PvE!

My 10 year old cousin just got the game.. PvP is all he does. I think that the 'winning obsessed players' are INDEED the younger ones. My Lil cousin gets so angry when he loses.. He acts like the OTHER PvP players as well.

Chillin-N-Killin

Chillin-N-Killin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Colorado

The Adult Guild

R/Mo

me : 35 wife : 43 and all we play is PVE never had and most likly never will PVP or GVG just my 2 cents worth good day all

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

Reddit Guild

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Effendi Westland
They did a survey about the avarage gameplayer, the link to that is floating around these forums somewhere.... i lost it

But what it came down to:
-the average gamer is 30
-45% of the gamers is female
-average game buyers are 37 or something
and 7 more facts

Edit: not a forum survey, but a scientific one
Here it is

LivingDeadGrrl

LivingDeadGrrl

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ohio

N/Me

Personally, I enjoy PvE because after you kill a Charr, there's no backtalkin'. It's just dead. It's not dead with a grudge.. it doesn't target you next time around cuz you killed it so quick and embarrassed it.. it doesn't call ya names, and it probably enjoys playing, as it IS a GAME, more than vs. other players.

Sorry, but my PvP experiences have been quite negative. I go in to win, but if I don't win I try to learn from my mistakes, watch other players and try to make myself better. The folks I've done PvP with apparently play XBOX waaay too much, they make it sooo personal. Take the fun right out of it for me.

And yeah... 36 year old female here. My sis plays also, and she's 42

Eugaet

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

31, PvE only, except for 2-3 games of Snowball Arena. Yeah, it took a snowball fight for me to get interested, if only for a short time, in PvP.

More age stats, courtesy the Daedalus Project.

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_nin00
Dear god would I like to shove some of those numbers up the asses of some people I know...

Rha Carnak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

No, many people PvE. Lots of people in my guild PvE.

I am 31. I have over 1,300 hours of game time in GW in the past 7 months. I have a monk with 2 million xp and an elementalist with 1 million xp and a warrior with 300k xp, so you can say that I like PvE.

I also PvP every day either in Tombs, TA, CA or GvG.

To those that say PvP > PvE or PvE > PvP, it's a matter of preference. Try both. To those that say PvE sucks I suggest to go for more of a challenge, do UW, FoW, Sorrow's Furnance or try solo farming. I personally had great fun running people around, try running the entire world map from ascalon to bloodstone fen in less than 1 hour.

lord_shar

lord_shar

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

If I want real, even-footing PvP, I go to any modern FPS (Quake4, CS, FEAR, UT2004+, etc...) with real-world physics simulations.

RPG PVP tends to be more about who has more hit points, XP's, etc... however, the trend is usually "who sank more time into developing their toon to get the better gear." It's not about challenging opponents on even footing... it's about who starts with the bigger numbers.

I prefer going into an arena with skills, not stats, winning a duel.

As a result, I play GW for the PvE and social/cooperative elements, and first-person-shooters for real-time, fast-paced PvP.

Disclaimer: I'm 30+ years old and make a hefty salary. Many of my toys run into the 4-5 figure range

Sir Green Aluminum

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

How old is your guild leader, 100? Maybe he just had a bad experience in PVE and he does'nt want to see it ever again, and denies it's his son. I personally like both PVE and PVP, but the downside to PVE I say is it's not changing and as challenging as facing an opponent that screams when he dies or stuff.

Auldaur

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Texas

R/Mo

I'm 20 and don't play much PvP, just don't care for it right now. I play PvE all the time though.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

People always think young means childish, which is so lame. And probably everyone in here will say "I'd never judge someone by age", but I can't believe you. I'm 14, and everwhere I've told my age (which I'd rather not anymore) people don't take me serious. When they ask my age (which is a lame question anyway, if you'd ask me) they always try to stop the conversation as soon as I tell I'm 14.

And that guild leader doesn't know what he's saying, I know alot of older GW players that don't like PVP that much, just like me.

BeatWolf

BeatWolf

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

I like PVP alot, but getting a decent group in tombs and not being rank 3 yet i find it very time consuming. I like CA because its instant action and good for testing stuff, but you end up with noobs most of the time (who dont res).

as for PVE, it's all a fashion show and about how wealthy you are (in my opinion) and id say PVE is where you make most of your friends.

IM 50/50 in PVE AND PVP i like them both as much, ive unlocked all stuff for PVP and done completed PVE but this game doesent get boring.. im 18 and need a job, GG.

Mila

Mila

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Legion of Exile

Mo/

I can count five people I know personally that play this game. The ages range from 27 - 60. All of us PVE lovers. We've all done some PVP, but just don't care for it too much.

I also know some pvpers in my guild that despise I'm quite happy in the pve arena. I don't know why, but it seems pvpers that I've come across try to make you feel guilty for not helping them have their fun. I'm primary monk. I monk at least half the time I game. Being a monk in pvp is no fun for me. lol Something about being the first target and all.

AxeMe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Atlanta

HEX

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister Overhill
Heh, I'm 59 (no joke) this week and I've been gaming a LONG time. PVE only for me, with my all-in-the-family guild ages 14 to 34. A couple of them PVP on the side, but my reflexes are too burned out for gang, er, guild battles.
Me too, exact same age -- 59. Only difference is that I do play PvP. But I was once in a guild -- a pretty good one -- with a 10-year-old leader.

I don't think age makes much difference and - maybe because of growing up in an era when sex, drugs and rock and roll were the main support systems - even my reflexes seem OK (either that or my mind has failed to such a degree that I believe that despite evidence to the contrary).

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
Face the facts bud, this game was made for PvP. Not just PvP, but still.
step back a moment and look at somthing very obvious.

there is this very large playground (soon to double in size) and here and there are a few very small sandboxes for the pvp elitists to fight it out in.

TGH site is dedicated to PVP and it has gone down the tubes steadily

the pve sites seem to be growing

your conclusion?

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

It's true, only 13 year olds play PvP.

I mean I've been playing GW since it came out but only since December 6 have I started playing PvP when I turned 13. I hope I can play PvP a lot as I wont be able to next year.