Ritualists: One Big Joke?

Antares Ascending

Antares Ascending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

E/

Check out Zidane's post. Some good advice for Rits.

Rits can pretty much provide what ever support a group needs cept tank.
They can do decent damage and support the group so it does more damage.
They can buff and heal...and have nice rez options.
Great energy management.
Alot of fun to play.

As far as the primarys go, Fast Casting doesn't generaly get a bunch of attribute points but Mesmers are still a great class. The thing is, fast casting helps a Mesmer do its job a bit better....and Sawning power adds to many Rit skills.

I haven't played a Rit long and may at some point find the class lacking but so far it seems to be able to do well at any situation its been in. Real fun class to play to :P

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

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in short

As a primary, they suck in most cases

as a secondary, their skills make great utilities.

Only reason i have one, is their awesome sense of style. Seriously, they are pimped out!

If they fix spawning power, then maybe the class has a chance

spirit of defeat

spirit of defeat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Holland

Rt/

Not very well thought trough before starting...
The only thnig bad about a Rit is Spawning power and [Lamentation]

Frozen Was Tara

Frozen Was Tara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

Belgium

Mu Tants [MU]

Rt/

One Big Joke? ~ NO

Ain't spending more time on this lame topic...

Patron_of_the_Wild

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

Green Dawn

R/

Don't know why many people think they need to compare different classes to "find out" which one is best or worst. Every class is good in what they do and it doesn't really matter which one you choose. Just put some time and effort into your favourite one and enjoy the game. In my opinion such topics are often taken too serious. I mean, it's not that it will be impossible for you to win Hard Mode missions, vanquish the world or achieve any more difficult titles if you play as a ritualist. Put those who cherish the illusion that their build pawns yours on ignore and you'll be fine.

To provide an example on what rits can do ...

For a long time I tried to find a good runner for Rragar's Menagerie in HM. I've been with quite a few 600 monks, who all failed to get to the end and then joined a rit (with 2 hero monks), who completed this difficult dungeon very fast and without dying even once.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

rits are a very capable class and are not crippled in any way compared to other classes. what makes u think that they are crippled?

Bargamer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Rt/N

If only Rits, or any part of GW, truly operated on the "easy to learn, difficult to master" principle, perhaps they wouldn't be so derided. As it is, I gathered that some players just want 1234 = win. The rest of us just want the common courtesy that should grow from being within a community of gamers.

I'm just waiting for GW2, now.

MegaVolti

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2008

Me/Rt

I don't get why everybody says Rits have style.
They are totally ugly, their armor as well as the Factions faces.
Every class in the game (except for Warriors, duh) looks better. Well, maybe Assassins are as ugly as Ritualists.
Their animation is even worse then their outfit. Doing spastical moves for 3 to 5 seconds to summon some bound spirit? Really?

Mesmers have style. Ritualists are just glorified bushmen.

Risus

Risus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

56min UW HM post-2/25 I win

FDR

A/

Rit primary = 16 channelling. 16 is about 50% more damage than 12. Also, N/Rt is useless in PvP. Of course go N primary in PvE, there are tons of sto0f for your Soul Reaping, but in PvE, Monks got the healing blocked out guys. I have several major Rt/A builds that can spike 500 AoE dmg to Nearby range within 3 seconds. If that is worthless, tell me what isn't?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaVolti View Post
I don't get why everybody says Rits have style.
They are totally ugly, their armor as well as the Factions faces.
Every class in the game (except for Warriors, duh) looks better. Well, maybe Assassins are as ugly as Ritualists.
Their animation is even worse then their outfit. Doing spastical moves for 3 to 5 seconds to summon some bound spirit? Really?

Mesmers have style. Ritualists are just glorified bushmen.
Finally! Someone with some understanding of style. Well, female Mesmers maybe. Male Mesmers look too... put it this way I'm not like that.

(Hey, I've got to be more enthusiastic sometimes...)

@Risus: That is quite hard to believe. It'd help fuel the belief that your build really does have that kind of efficiency if you post the build.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaVolti View Post
I don't get why everybody says Rits have style.
They are totally ugly, their armor as well as the Factions faces.
Every class in the game (except for Warriors, duh) looks better. Well, maybe Assassins are as ugly as Ritualists.
Their animation is even worse then their outfit. Doing spastical moves for 3 to 5 seconds to summon some bound spirit? Really?

Mesmers have style. Ritualists are just glorified bushmen. Oh I am SO throwing a hissy fit right now!

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

the rt class is probably the most microed in the game. pve/pvp, anything Rt/ or /Rt is pro.

Keira Nightgale

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Gulfstream Owners Club [GS]

Rt/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla View Post
Finally! Someone with some understanding of style. Well, female Mesmers maybe. Male Mesmers look too... put it this way I'm not like that.

(Hey, I've got to be more enthusiastic sometimes...)

@Risus: That is quite hard to believe. It'd help fuel the belief that your build really does have that kind of efficiency if you post the build.
If by stylish you mean looking like a nigerian RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO, then yes, mesmers females are stylish in a good 80% of their outfits. If I wanted a sexy/bitchy looking character (as much as pixels are sexy) I'd take an ele then. And btw majority of ritualists faces are ugly but mainly because they are limited to only 1 expansion pack selection, trust me if we wanted to limit mesmer faces to prophecies only you'll save 1-2 faces. Honestly ritualist armors are more exotic/different/original than all the other classes, maybe only ele has the same variety of armor, on the same level of quality I'd put paragon female fow armor and monk male primeval.

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Originally Posted by Risus View Post
Rit primary = 16 channelling. 16 is about 50% more damage than 12. Also, N/Rt is useless in PvP. Of course go N primary in PvE, there are tons of sto0f for your Soul Reaping, but in PvE, Monks got the healing blocked out guys. I have several major Rt/A builds that can spike 500 AoE dmg to Nearby range within 3 seconds. If that is worthless, tell me what isn't? It isn't because for starters you're running with 16 channeling and thus <600hp,
2nd because nearby range means that with a 60AL char you will get insta-killed
3rd because a 600hp spike ain't armor ignoring, thus hm mobs will just laugh at it when you will deal in the best case scenario 250dmg and proceed raping you.

Posts Merged by Celestial Beaver: Please use the button rather than double posting in future.

MegaVolti

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2008

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla View Post
Finally! Someone with some understanding of style. Well, female Mesmers maybe. Male Mesmers look too... put it this way I'm not like that.

(Hey, I've got to be more enthusiastic sometimes...).
Uhm yes, of cause. Female Mesmers. I try to forget that there is another kind. I see male Mesmers als "balace in the force". Female Mesmers are the uber styled awesome character in GW. They had to balance it out by giving male Mesmers a look as ...good... as the Warriors to make the Mesmer class overall comparable to all the others.

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Originally Posted by the savage nornbear View Post
You looking for a fight buddy? Rit Norn>You I stand corrected. In norn armor they are not glorified bushmen. They are glorified cavemen. Well ... actually just cavemen.

Frozen Was Tara

Frozen Was Tara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

Belgium

Mu Tants [MU]

Rt/

LAWL, just bigtime LAWL

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Some guys need to start looking beyond "pretty".

jimmyboveto

jimmyboveto

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

US

Legion of Avalon

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Saying that n/rt is always better then rt/x is just wrong. The only time you would want to take n/rt is if you are having energy management problems. I'm not belittling this factor, as energy is a crucial part to any build. Yet, a rit primary will be better for a large amount of builds. Really the only times i would take the easy energy mangement over the higher attributes is when i'm going resto. Yet, you also have to consider that in order to get decent energy management from a necro primary, you must pour a substantial amound of atribute points into soul reaping, subtracting from your other atributes.

Overall, to answer your question rit primaries are not useless. Go rt/x if you want more potent skills, and n/rt if you want to be able to use more skills.

smilingscar

smilingscar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Frontline Legion

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I'd like to point out that while OoS is elite, I don't have to spend extra attribute points for it like I would with SR ( since I'm already specing into Channeling for damage). A small consolation perhaps, but a Rt/n with easy energy is comparable if not equal to a N/rt with easy energy in terms of utility and damage. And there's enough really good non-elite skills in channeling and curses to fill a bar and make it good.

Also, being able to have energy when I need it seems way better than waiting for something to die fifteen seconds from now.

Does any player actually play a N/rt anyway? I always assumed it was just for heroes...

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

What do you call a ritualist with a shovel in his head? Doug. Now they're a joke.

Regarding the rit primary vs secondary. Rt/X gets to use secondary skills and gets a 14 spec splinter, N/Rt gets to use their elite for something other than energy management... Horses for courses really.

What do you call a ritualist with the shovel removed? Douglas.

Silversword22

Silversword22

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

AZ

Brotherhood of Feklaar

P/W

Rits are the ultimate utility class. I can't think of another class where you can dish out straight up damage, boost other peoples damage, provide party heals and support without even tapping into your secondary.

Silversword22

Silversword22

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

AZ

Brotherhood of Feklaar

P/W

Lol. Aight, I guess I can think of two...