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Originally Posted by aspi
Boss weapons should be customized for the person it drops for, really unique items should be tradable. But what do I know.
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The definition of a rare weapon
Morticia of Cyana
Del
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Originally Posted by Morticia of Cyana
All weapons (and maybe armor) that drop should be customized for the player that gets the drop, just like in other games. That would keep the economy quiet.
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Voodoo Rage
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Originally Posted by Apathetic Tom
brilliant plan, i sure would love a dryad bow for my mesmer, and a heal celestial compass for my warrior, customized drops is such a brilliant idea.
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You know what would really kick ass, IMO. If very high end weapons were signed, kind of like the Nicholas items are. Something like "dropped on 1/27/10 for Voodoo Rage in the Shards of Orr dungeon". Maybe certain players could develop reputations and stuff with their name on it would be desirable.
Not Listing it Here
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Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage
You know what would really kick ass, IMO. If very high end weapons were signed, kind of like the Nicholas items are. Something like "dropped on 1/27/10 for Voodoo Rage in the Shards of Orr dungeon". Maybe certain players could develop reputations and stuff with their name on it would be desirable.
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Got my vote.
Morticia of Cyana
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Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage
Customized to the account perhaps? I think it would be pretty cool if there were specific boss or chest drops that were customized. THAT is the kind of thing you would put in a Hall of Monuments not some crap destroyer weapon you bought in Kamadan.
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DBMan
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Originally Posted by Morticia of Cyana
Account customized, yes.
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Originally Posted by DBMan
Good luck selling anything. Stupid idea.
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Enon
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Originally Posted by aspi
Better at pve lmao, how do we measure this exactly?
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isildorbiafra
When i'm selling its rare.....when i'm buying its not!
garethporlest18
I have a few rare items. Well rare for me, have a req 8 Chaos Axe 15% in stance. A req 8 blood magic staff 8/10 and a req 8 air wand 5^50/10. Sure not worth much but it's not easy to get a wand like that, the FoW items are probably still pretty attainable though.
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Originally Posted by Apathetic Tom
god forbid people actually start doing things to get rare items instead of standing around in kamadan trading for them. account customization sounds quite swell to me as well, make people work for their pretty objects instead of powertrading so they can pretend to be pro. ~__~
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Class based customized weapons drops would cure a lot of the problems the GW economy has. Too bad it's too late in the game to implement such a thing.
Trader of Secrets
golds of those "rare" skins are what I consider rare now. I loved it way back in the day when the mods actually determined what was rare.
Shriketalon
Problem was, back when the mods made things rare, you had to be rich enough to afford a proper weapon to play a class to its full potential.
Remember playing a caster in prophecies? That was the pits. Getting a proper gold staff to drop with decent mods, a low requirement, and a full 20% HSR took longer than completing the actual game. Most just ran around with an energy stick.
Remember playing a caster in prophecies? That was the pits. Getting a proper gold staff to drop with decent mods, a low requirement, and a full 20% HSR took longer than completing the actual game. Most just ran around with an energy stick.
Kotetsu Rain
I'm never really thought as items as rare but it's a personal thing. Sure things drop less often then others but you could still come across it with the right funds or an item of equal value.
With that said I'd call a rare item an item only for me. Like Gaile and her Froggy Scepter.
With that said I'd call a rare item an item only for me. Like Gaile and her Froggy Scepter.
pumpkin pie
If I have it and you don't, its rare 
Seem to me more players are using a voltaic spears then, say, someone using a banded spear.
Seem to me more players are using a voltaic spears then, say, someone using a banded spear.
Arduin
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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
Seem to me more players are using a voltaic spears then, say, someone using a banded spear.
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DBMan
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Originally Posted by Apathetic Tom
god forbid people actually start doing things to get rare items instead of standing around in kamadan trading for them. account customization sounds quite swell to me as well, make people work for their pretty objects instead of powertrading so they can pretend to be pro. ~__~
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Originally Posted by DBMan
So you're saying everyone should be self sufficient and not buy from others? That's taking the MMO out of MMORPG.
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FyrFytr998
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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
If I have it and you don't, its rare
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lishi
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Problem was, back when the mods made things rare, you had to be rich enough to afford a proper weapon to play a class to its full potential.
Remember playing a caster in prophecies? That was the pits. Getting a proper gold staff to drop with decent mods, a low requirement, and a full 20% HSR took longer than completing the actual game. Most just ran around with an energy stick. |
MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by Morticia of Cyana
All weapons (and maybe armor) that drop should be customized for the player that gets the drop, just like in other games. That would keep the economy quiet.
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But maybe, and I say maybe, customization to USE.
Either eat the cake or sell it, but not both.
Currently, most people, especially with caster weapons, and for ALL offhand items, don't customize them.
Why? Becase they'll may want to sell it later.
Force customization to use them, like with armors, and you would only customize the ones you REALLY want to use, and ALWAYS sell the rest, since keeping them would be useless, for to use them, you have to customize them. So you'll have to either decide to use or sell them.
That would drastically reduce equipped item hoarding.
To put it simply, an item sink.
If you keep in the market a rare weapon, the next ones will have their values decreased. A weapon with 1000000 like it in the market will always have a lower value than one that has only 1000 appearances. That's basic.
If people can't sell the ones they use, they won't make money after using the item for a long time.
But, before that, I would change customization to be fully account wide, like with Zaishen keys, and add customization maluses for uncustomized offhand (so PvP items are unnafected, since once customized would be just like now, but suffer some penalties when uncustomized), and better customization bonuses for caster weapons. After doing that the downside of having to customize would be at least slightly... shadowed for a customization revamp: "Hey! I can't sell this after using it!" - "Well, at least any of your other characters and heroes in the account can".
DBMan
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Originally Posted by Apathetic Tom
because the only time people interact is to buy/sell right?
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Originally Posted by DBMan
because your main goal in any game is to make friends over the web.
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Edit: Oh i see what you're saying, but playing an online game just to get rich is pretty sad. Compensating for something?
Shriketalon
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Originally Posted by lishi
Caster were lucky: collectors
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Oh, right. Prophecies.
Casters didn't get nice things in Prophecies.
Voodoo Rage
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Chronos the Defiler
This is the oldest weapon I have:
This is probably my second oldest...i think...
nothing anywhere near the others posted at the start of this thread though...
This is probably my second oldest...i think...
nothing anywhere near the others posted at the start of this thread though...
Arduin
I've got a r8 15^50 dye-able Shadow Bow
Customized so it's worthless in a sense, but i still like the rare quality of it.
Customized so it's worthless in a sense, but i still like the rare quality of it.
chadS
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Originally Posted by Morticia of Cyana
All weapons (and maybe armor) that drop should be customized for the player that gets the drop, just like in other games. That would keep the economy quiet.
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chaosincarnate87
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Originally Posted by Apathetic Tom
And that has anything to do with buying/selling rare weapons how?
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edit. after re-reading, to clarify what i was saying is that, ffs, some of these people have 5+ characters thru all the campagns, all thats left is sitting around and trading, or get shat upon by the pvp community for not doing that 20 hours a day. sorry, i have more fun in town trading/chatting with people now than i do actually doing things. if that makes any sort of sense.
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Originally Posted by chaosincarnate87
yeah cuz i waste hours upon hours on this game to give away my things and not be rich? no. thats the goal ultimately in the game, progression. getting rich is part of progression. esp when you have multiple characters through every campagn.
edit. after re-reading, to clarify what i was saying is that, ffs, some of these people have 5+ characters thru all the campagns, all thats left is sitting around and trading, or get shat upon by the pvp community for not doing that 20 hours a day. sorry, i have more fun in town trading/chatting with people now than i do actually doing things. if that makes any sort of sense. |
Morticia of Cyana
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Customization upon drop won't do much good.
But maybe, and I say maybe, customization to USE. Either eat the cake or sell it, but not both. Currently, most people, especially with caster weapons, and for ALL offhand items, don't customize them. Why? Becase they'll may want to sell it later. Force customization to use them, like with armors, and you would only customize the ones you REALLY want to use, and ALWAYS sell the rest, since keeping them would be useless, for to use them, you have to customize them. So you'll have to either decide to use or sell them. That would drastically reduce equipped item hoarding. To put it simply, an item sink. If you keep in the market a rare weapon, the next ones will have their values decreased. A weapon with 1000000 like it in the market will always have a lower value than one that has only 1000 appearances. That's basic. If people can't sell the ones they use, they won't make money after using the item for a long time. But, before that, I would change customization to be fully account wide, like with Zaishen keys, and add customization maluses for uncustomized offhand (so PvP items are unnafected, since once customized would be just like now, but suffer some penalties when uncustomized), and better customization bonuses for caster weapons. After doing that the downside of having to customize would be at least slightly... shadowed for a customization revamp: "Hey! I can't sell this after using it!" - "Well, at least any of your other characters and heroes in the account can". |
Guild Wars was meant to be a non-grinding game, but all people do these days is grinding themselves to death for a VS or BDS. The game has lost it's value. I wish the good old pug-days were back.
YunSooJin
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A very nice idea! People who object to this will most likely be elitist with tons of fancy stuff. Go play WoW if you want that.
Guild Wars was meant to be a non-grinding game, but all people do these days is grinding themselves to death for a VS or BDS. The game has lost it's value. I wish the good old pug-days were back. |
really? I know gwg isnt the epitome of critical thinking but if this is all we can come up with we might want to reconsider where the human race is heading
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Originally Posted by Morticia of Cyana
A very nice idea! People who object to this will most likely be elitist with tons of fancy stuff. Go play WoW if you want that.
Guild Wars was meant to be a non-grinding game, but all people do these days is grinding themselves to death for a VS or BDS. The game has lost it's value. I wish the good old pug-days were back. |
I dislike the customize-upon-use idea, too. Not because I have a bunch of shiny stuff I want to use and then sell, but rather because I can't afford to have every single character completely kitted out with perfect weapons and thus share weapons between them - even between both of my accounts (My Dervish and Assassin share the same staff for running. My Mesmer and two Monks share the same caster set. Why? Less time and money spent getting weapons and modding them, or farming a green/collector items, and since I'm only using one character at a time anyway, why not).
DBMan
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Originally Posted by Apathetic Tom
...Or, brilliant 3rd option, if you're reduced to trading for fun, QUIT. play something else. that or pvp, but then again, most of you probably prefer trading because you're actually good at that.
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Unless Anet nerfs everything.
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Guess you dont play much MMOs, but it's not really easy to just quit when you've gained so much.
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chaosincarnate87
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Originally Posted by Apathetic Tom
Yup, devote your life to GW despite the fact that you're bored enough to stand around in kamadan trading, just because of some pixels you've acquired. Your posts make tons of sense.
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moriz
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Originally Posted by chaosincarnate87
yeah cuz i waste hours upon hours on this game to give away my things and not be rich? no. thats the goal ultimately in the game, progression. getting rich is part of progression. esp when you have multiple characters through every campagn.
edit. after re-reading, to clarify what i was saying is that, ffs, some of these people have 5+ characters thru all the campagns, all thats left is sitting around and trading, or get shat upon by the pvp community for not doing that 20 hours a day. sorry, i have more fun in town trading/chatting with people now than i do actually doing things. if that makes any sort of sense. |
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Ignoring some of your imposed rules, the Heaven's Arch, Bonecrusher, and Storm Ember are the 3 rarest items in the game. They're Korean Coke items from the Coca-cola promotion done in 2005. They were blue/spawnable but the promotion for them was only directed towards Koreans and of the few that got the Coke items, none still play.
RhanoctJocosa
Inscribable Soul Wedding sword. /thread
Bob Slydell
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But casters couldn't get rare weapons with decent sta--
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