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jammerpa

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Sunny FLA

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06 Jan 2009 at 16:57 - 41

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Originally Posted by Epic Monkey Battle

a marketing ploy to keep us playing GW1...

And what advantage does Anet have in keeping us playing GW1 ? I could see Anet jerking our chain's if we paid a monthly fee to play the game, but we don't. They're not going to pay the bills waiting for us to buy char slots.

If GW 2 is not vaporware, I expect to hear something about it's release in the next 6 - 9 months with a release date of April 2010.

therangereminem

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R/Mo

06 Jan 2009 at 17:08 - 42

aion is really gw 2 justr we cant tranlate there websites the right way lo l j/k

anyways with the lawsuit going on i soppose this willput alot fo games on hold , the out come of that is the life of onine gaming

heres how it looks

may frist new news!!!!!!!!!1 we are putting gw2 on hold we feel youhave not been explained enough about gw1 to understand gw2, so we putting gw2 on hold for another 5 years and putting out another expasnion(aka the rest of utopia) and we will raise the leve l cap to 40 and xp is retro so every one is now leve l 40 no grind lol yayyyyyyyy

may 1st 2009if you dont hear anythgin by then the word ended

and the preview event willnot happen in 2009 i think they will release gw 2 on apirl 28th 2010 aka 5 years sence gw 1 came out preview is a couple months before hand meaning feb 2010

Sir Skullcrasher

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W/Mo

06 Jan 2009 at 17:09 - 43

I was on GW these past few days and was hearing words out of players saying we'll get the GW2 beta sometime this year. I know not to trust random players since their information is not accurate. Not to mention there are little or no information (screenshots) released for GW2 yet. All we know is some of the storyline and 4 to 5 races that we'll be using in the game.

Who thinks we'll get information on the beta first?

Mister_Smiley

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06 Jan 2009 at 17:16 - 44

I don't think well find out about beta first, the book i see comming out first, most likey all 3 this year, which puts them each comming out 4 months apart and then GW2 beta in 2010.

Don't forget Anet might want to put GW2 information out there, but NCSOFT is telling them no. It could be ncsoft that is holding back all the information.

Fates

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Kanuckistan

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06 Jan 2009 at 17:27 - 45

Feb 29, bank on it.

Shanaeri Rynale

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06 Jan 2009 at 17:58 - 46

I like many others I think have dwindling hopes that it will ever be released. I can't recall a game that has been in development for so long without *any* news at all and that has gone on to be actually released successfully.

The longer things go on, the more likely it is to be cancelled. There's not raising exepectations and there's utter silence. Not raising expectations can easily be done, by careful press releases. Utter silence in any industry regarding a new product is almost invariably bad news.

I'm not 100% sold on the idea it's never going to come out, but the more it drags on the more I think that may be the case.

Ofc now i've said that, we'll get a 1000 page spread on GW2 tomorrow

kostolomac

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06 Jan 2009 at 18:14 - 47

They will release info on GW2 when they see that people are leaving GW massively so that they return and grind some more titles in hope for GW2.

cosyfiep

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06 Jan 2009 at 18:25 - 48

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Originally Posted by Fates Monk

Feb 29, bank on it.

ya' beat me to it....so

2nded.

really I dont forsee any news this year about it.

snaek

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06 Jan 2009 at 18:48 - 49

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Originally Posted by Lyynyyrd

Maybe April 1, 2009.

hey...dun ruin the surprise of april fools jokes...
fake april fools joke concept art is better than none .__.

Nightow

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06 Jan 2009 at 19:16 - 50

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Originally Posted by Katsumi

Looks like NCSoft has another few years before anything has to be released.

What's DNF? Duke Nuke'em Forever?

My guess is that we'll hear something around April.

And to everyone or any one who mentions D3, keep in mind that it's been in development for years.

wind fire and ice

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06 Jan 2009 at 19:26 - 51

mid 2015.

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Shadowmoon

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06 Jan 2009 at 19:41 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammerpa

And what advantage does Anet have in keeping us playing GW1 ? I could see Anet jerking our chain's if we paid a monthly fee to play the game, but we don't. They're not going to pay the bills waiting for us to buy char slots.

GW is like all other f2p games out there, once they stopped selling expansions, their only income is micro-transactions. Servers are pre paided for periods of time, so they can't just shut down servers once population drops on the fly to cut cost. Also when you have more people playign your game, they more people buying stuff from ur cash shop. They have every assentive to keep a decent player population.
Why else when people asked on Reggies talk page about information about server population over periods of time, she refused saying such data could hurt the game, i.e give ammo to the Guildwars is Dying threads. Same things happen when the imfamous Flagship removed the /who command from hellgate so people couldn't actually see how bad the game was bleeding.
This is why vaporware (GW2) and the HoM are only there to keep people playing the game so they would buy character slot, mule accounts, pvp upgrades, est.

Yawgmoth

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06 Jan 2009 at 19:44 - 53

It may be still so early in development there's just nothing to show. Or maybe they're trying really hard to start the action as soon as possible and slam it in a full working open beta this summer followed by release in autumn. We know nothing.

In a similar thread by the end of 2007 I 'predicted' May'08 as the moment when real GW2 info will start to flow. Nothing did I know, ofcourse.

This time I can make another wild guess, and nothing more than a guess:

Start of real information, media and promotion - June'09
First open beta - Q4 2009
Release - Q2 2010

Optimistic. Because they can't afford a vaporware, it just can't last forever.

Fril Estelin

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06 Jan 2009 at 20:07 - 54

This thread is non-sense, it's a sort of collective prediction of the future.

42, the answer is 42.

Abedeus

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06 Jan 2009 at 20:16 - 55

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Optimistic. Because they can't afford a vaporware, it just can't last forever.

Now, now, I remember in 2000 one shop had the release date of DNF. If they can keep up their vaporware running for more than 8 years, so can A.Net.

beserk

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06 Jan 2009 at 20:29 - 56

2024

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SerenitySilverstar

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06 Jan 2009 at 20:38 - 57

Patience is a virtue. People who use the word "vaporware" will be slapped with a wet smelly trout. And rumours are for bored people.

SirSausage

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Poland

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06 Jan 2009 at 20:56 - 58

June 1st - my birthday

Ahh one can dream

I think I know the release date for GW2.

Looks like we'll have to wait a bit longer.

Sir Skullcrasher

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W/Mo

06 Jan 2009 at 21:04 - 59

Sep 9th 2009! 09/09/2009!

That would be the worst day to tell us about GW 2 information!

Clobimon

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06 Jan 2009 at 21:05 - 60

I'm in and have been in with the "after Aion's official release" crew for a few months. Aion is huge for NCSoft, as I'm sure they're expecting ANet's GW2 will be for them as well. Aion is expected to release in NA somewhere between March and May. We already know GW2 won't be until late in the year at earliest. Diluting Aion's buzz with GW2 doesn't seem like good practice when there will be plenty of time between releases. I personally think 2009 is going to be NCSoft's year, as they'll be part of the marketing of two highly anticipated games.

From reading forums and listening to players in games you start to understand how truly in need the genre is of something new that's really good, and run well. Aion and GW2 should really help that.

Apollo Smile

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E/Mo

06 Jan 2009 at 21:14 - 61

Online MMOs are a very competitive market. It isn't wise to talk much about your new ideas until you are completely ready to show all your cards. Certain games coughWoWcough, tend to take any new ideas other MMOs come up with and attempt to beat em to the punch.

Shadowmoon

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06 Jan 2009 at 21:37 - 62

concept art/screenshots =/= ideas that can be easily stolen by wow. They show basic idea where u want ur game to go, but don't show any ground breaking ideas that they would want to be hush hush. Alot of people don't want game design details, they want to know that the game is coming along.
When their first plan for a beta at the end of 08 didn't happen. I think player should get antsy about NOTHING that has been shown off.
Personally, i think it is alot of vaporware just to keep people playing gw1, and keep buying from their online store. And i'm afraid until there a sudden decrease in player population, no information will remain.

Darcy

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06 Jan 2009 at 22:15 - 63

Here is the March 20, 2007 Guru thread on the announcement http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10133090

immortius

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07 Jan 2009 at 10:15 - 64

I consider a three year development period to be pretty typical for decent games. Not sure what all the doom and gloom is about, hasn't even been 2 years since announcement yet.

Arduin

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07 Jan 2009 at 10:53 - 65

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Originally Posted by immortius

I consider a three year development period to be pretty typical for decent games. Not sure what all the doom and gloom is about, hasn't even been 2 years since announcement yet.

It's not that people are worried because of the time it will take them to develop the game, people are freaking out because there still hasn't been any video's or screenies after 2 years of development.

Abedeus

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07 Jan 2009 at 12:00 - 66

Diablo 3, announced in 2008, in development for the last 4 years, had dozens of screenshots and... 3? gameplay videos.

A.Net didn't give anything, even concept art, since GWEN.

Reflect

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07 Jan 2009 at 12:07 - 67

end of 2011 ;/

Fril Estelin

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07 Jan 2009 at 13:17 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

Diablo 3, announced in 2008, in development for the last 4 years, had dozens of screenshots and... 3? gameplay videos.

A.Net didn't give anything, even concept art, since GWEN.

Hey, in software verification, they have a saying (about safety and liveness properties): it's easy to prove something that happened, but impossible to prove something that didn't.

And I haven't met yet anyone that can predict the future. But why do people want things here and now? Because Anet's neighbour did it? As someone said, patience is a virtue, in particular online.

Abedeus

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07 Jan 2009 at 13:32 - 69

Too bad we believe Blizzard, that has yet to release a game that wasn't a world-wide success.

And we don't really believe A.Net, that has made so many mistakes, Guild Wars 2, or it's lack, will probably destroy it. I mean, if their game fails, they have no money to run the servers. And they will meet the fate of, oh, I don't know... Tabula Rasa. Not enough player buying the game = closing down after a year or so.

Fril Estelin

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07 Jan 2009 at 13:39 - 70

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Too bad we believe Blizzard, that has yet to release a game that wasn't a world-wide success.

Well, you do what you want, I don't care about Activision Blizzard. (let's keep the discussion as childish as possible, shall we?)

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And we don't really believe A.Net, that has made so many mistakes, Guild Wars 2, or it's lack, will probably destroy it. I mean, if their game fails, they have no money to run the servers. And they will meet the fate of, oh, I don't know... Tabula Rasa. Not enough player buying the game = closing down after a year or so.

Yet GW1 is still running despite the year+ of predicting its demise. Your words are vapor, that's a fact, not a prediction of the future.

Abedeus

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07 Jan 2009 at 13:44 - 71

Okay, go ahead and believe in Guild Wars 2.

I'll wait over there.

Fril Estelin

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07 Jan 2009 at 14:21 - 72

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Okay, go ahead and believe in Guild Wars 2.

Hey, I'm not trying to start a religion. Regina and NCsoft people saw GW2, that's enough for me, the rest is left to patience.

Shadowmoon

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07 Jan 2009 at 15:11 - 73

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Hey, I'm not trying to start a religion. Regina and NCsoft people saw GW2, that's enough for me, the rest is left to patience.

Yeah they are a totally an unbiased source of of information....
To me, without any prove of its existence, it doesn't exist. I'm not saying they are lieing to us with certainty, but if Reggie said she hasn't seen any game footage of GW2, how do you think that would pan out in the forums. I'd tell it cause one heck of a up roar. Her answers have always been focused on damage control. Honestly i suggest people look what happened with Hellgate, Tabala Rasa and AoC, before giving much fate to game designers and their lackeys.

Abedeus

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07 Jan 2009 at 15:23 - 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Hey, I'm not trying to start a religion. Regina and NCsoft people saw GW2, that's enough for me, the rest is left to patience.

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Hey, in software verification, they have a saying (about safety and liveness properties): it's easy to prove something that happened, but impossible to prove something that didn't.

You just kicked yourself in the groin.

Regina is totally unbelievable, sorry. If she said it's going to snow tomorrow, maybe I would believe, but nothing about the game.

Stuart444

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07 Jan 2009 at 15:24 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Hey, I'm not trying to start a religion. Regina and NCsoft people saw GW2, that's enough for me, the rest is left to patience.

I'm with you here, that's all I am saying in this conversation

Fril Estelin

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07 Jan 2009 at 15:30 - 76

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

You just kicked yourself in the groin.

You probably find yourself very smart for that comment. You're actually wrong (on both accounts). And if GW2 comes out, I'd like to see your e-face.

To all those looking for a "proof", you should look for a proof of the 3-color theorem (which is no vaporware at all), then you'll look differently at life...

Abedeus

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07 Jan 2009 at 15:47 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

You probably find yourself very smart for that comment. You're actually wrong (on both accounts). And if GW2 comes out, I'd like to see your e-face.

To all those looking for a "proof", you should look for a proof of the 3-color theorem (which is no vaporware at all), then you'll look differently at life...

Read your two quotes. In the first one, you say that "Regina and NCSoft saw it", yet there is no proof.

And in the other one, you say it's impossible to prove something that didn't happen.

Heh. Yeah, once you realise your mistake, take a picture of your face, I will be happy to see it.

About the proof - what proof? I see no proof of Duke Nukem Forever. Which, actually, had few screenshots (few years ago, and of a poor quality, but still), one trailer (without in-game footage, but still) and there isn't anyone that believes in DNF. Why should people believe in GW2?

Aera Lure

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07 Jan 2009 at 15:52 - 78

I'm sure GW2 exists in some form and that is what Regina and others saw.

However, Anet's not releasing any information, concept art, screen shots, news, etc has not inspired any confidence and I have all but lost interest completely. I just got bored of waiting, left GW and now look likely to not care at all when the news starts coming. They announced GW2 far, far too early if its 2+ years before they can say or show anything about it.

Predictions? I dont think we'll get an official release of information from Anet before they announce a beta play test. The first thing we really get will be from leaks from those players. My instincts tell me they announced GW2 when it was in a fledgling state, since they scrapped a chapter to move to working on it instead. Assuming a minimum of a four year development period, we are only in year two, so we have at least a year before beta. Anet will then announce some of the ways things work within the game some weeks after beta ends. 2010-ish for our first real bits of information.

The Meth

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07 Jan 2009 at 16:14 - 79

Sometime after the gravitational collapse of the universe, but before the release of Duke Nukem Forever.

Mister_Smiley

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07 Jan 2009 at 16:17 - 80

As for GW2, you can think its exists or it doesn't exists, it come down to something as simple as that. For something to exist there doesn't need to proof at all, it all comes down to what someone believes in.

As for blizzard, which i total lost a lot of confidence in after they stopped caring about D2. D3 looks good, but weather it will be good or not, i can not say yet.