This is too little too late.
How much lead time do they need to add an extra tab? You would think by April they could whip up an NPC or hero mule, or better yet a cow with saddlebags that can travel with you. Give us the option to have it pick up all drops with a single click. Give us something besides an additional tab.
It does no good to talk about April in January. In other words, they have nothing. Dead game, unhappy players, NO new content, same shit, different day.
[Dev Update] - 15 January 2009
Socrates The Mauler
Kattar
Anet does stuff, people bitch. ANet doesn't do stuff, people bitch. So it's a no win for them as far as this player base goes. Interestingly, this player base here on the forum is a very small percentage of the actual player base.
I'm just hoping this is a sign of things to come. Moar stuffz pl0x.
I'm just hoping this is a sign of things to come. Moar stuffz pl0x.
BenjZee
Besidse they didnt say tab.....also they said character aswell which leads me to believe either amor, storybooks, both or added extra stuff.
I pwnd U
Finally more storage...
I MP I
Hmmm ok. Probably should have added this additional storage way sooner. Like a year or two ago. I'll take it though.
lord of all tyria
I look forward to this fascinating and useful update being delivered in a timely fashion!
kostolomac
I was hoping they would announce more titles going account based , but more storage is still nice.
Issac
Something is better then nothing, still pretty good.
Abedeus
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Anet does stuff, people bitch. ANet doesn't do stuff, people bitch. So it's a no win for them as far as this player base goes. Interestingly, this player base here on the forum is a very small percentage of the actual player base.
I'm just hoping this is a sign of things to come. Moar stuffz pl0x. |
It's like crapping at your shoes and saying "now they smell better" and promise more.
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The forth fly
more storage excellent,9 mules and still got no room in storage btw if u dont like the game stop playing it,stop posting on here,stop QQ just gtfo.Thank you
FengShuiDove
Exciting. If you're so calloused towards the game that you hate it and all updates, don't play anymore. My status is that I'm still playing the game and will be thrilled about whatever new content comes my way. If you hate the game and the devs so much, leave. Just my opinion.
At any rate, April is actually good timing for me as it gives me time to collect what I need for finishing HoM.
At any rate, April is actually good timing for me as it gives me time to collect what I need for finishing HoM.
Rocky Raccoon
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Not really. You don't improve the world with praise, only with criticism.
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HawkofStorms
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Account-based HoM is nice I guess. But April? so before that, no new GW1 or GW2 news?
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I'm glad. HoM is seriously a waste atm with the way statutes are organized and stored.
And EVERYBODY has been complaining about wanting more storage, even after they increased it by 4 times with the NF update. And when they do announce it... guru complains about it not happening sooner. Typical.
Also, no where in that announcement does it say ANYTHING about GW2 news/tidbits not being released because they are working on GW1 (that doesn't even make sense).
SerenitySilverstar
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We "bitch" because they are hurting this game more with every update and claim that this is improving.
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Basics of debate.
Abedeus
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more storage excellent,9 mules and still got no room in storage btw if u dont like the game stop playing it,stop posting on here,stop QQ just gtfo.Thank you
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Want constructive criticism? How about - fix Ray of Judgment in PvP, Palm Strike, Heroes in HA?
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Oh, sure, there was Bonus Mission pack. But that's good for 40 minutes, unless you really like killing hundreds of weaker enemies with a pre-set skillbar.
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Empress Amarox
I assume it may be something like what I'd suggested... PvE Equipment window like PvP Equipment window.
Personally, I'd like to see some of the very obvious armor f-ups fixed first. But, more storage is always nice. My crap's spread across 6 accounts at the moment.
Like female Nec Obsidian top with the strange ass light and black lines and the Krytan Nec armor with half their neck poking out the side...
Armor being completely toggle-able would be nice... That's just a dream of mine that'll probably never happen.
Personally, I'd like to see some of the very obvious armor f-ups fixed first. But, more storage is always nice. My crap's spread across 6 accounts at the moment.
Like female Nec Obsidian top with the strange ass light and black lines and the Krytan Nec armor with half their neck poking out the side...
Armor being completely toggle-able would be nice... That's just a dream of mine that'll probably never happen.
SerenitySilverstar
Abedus: Just because you choose to ignore or disparage new content, doesn't mean it ceases to exist or be utilized/enjoyed by others - Mox quests, new Wintersday quests, and as you've said yourself, the BMP.
And..."No, you". Really? What is this? Kindergarten?
And..."No, you". Really? What is this? Kindergarten?
Karate Jesus
"I really hope that they're doing a lot more than (1) storage, (2) storage, & (3) HoM. What I'm hoping is that this is like a teaser to get people interested, otherwise they're wasting my time. If it's seriously going to take 3 1/2 months to add storage and finally make the HoM the way it should have been in the first place, then I'm going to be royally pissed off.
Hey Live Team, you want to know how to improve the quality and experience of GW? ADD NEW CONTENT. Don't just make old, crappy content more efficient. I understand people's concerns with storage (I'm having them myself), but 3 1/2 months of minuscule updates for 1 LARGE turd is ridiculous. Please....please Live Team....give us a hint that it's going to be better than that.
Oh, and P.S. working only retroactively with player problems and concerns shows no foresight. Do some proactive work and prove to the GW community that you still give a damn."
From http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/ArenaNet_talk
eveloper_updates The bolded statement pretty much sums up how I feel.
Hey Live Team, you want to know how to improve the quality and experience of GW? ADD NEW CONTENT. Don't just make old, crappy content more efficient. I understand people's concerns with storage (I'm having them myself), but 3 1/2 months of minuscule updates for 1 LARGE turd is ridiculous. Please....please Live Team....give us a hint that it's going to be better than that.
Oh, and P.S. working only retroactively with player problems and concerns shows no foresight. Do some proactive work and prove to the GW community that you still give a damn."
From http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/ArenaNet_talk
Fril Estelin
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Not really. You don't improve the world with praise, only with criticism.
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They gave us something unheard of, unique, fantastic, brilliant graphics and game with no-monthly-fee. They know they made mistakes and are working to correct them, and what do you hear on Guru? It's a cacophony of non-sense where a few bright lights are drowning little by little.
I need to stop Guru, it's making me depressed ;P.
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or would you rather have izzy back to make sure it stays broken?
Abedeus
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If I was a hard-working GW dev reading this forum, I'd quit Anet due to depression.
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If you were hard-working at the first place, you wouldn't get so many crap balls thrown at you.
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You know, to fix Palm Strike, you need to just double or triple the recharge. Change a 4 into a 8 or 12 and it's almost fixed.
But why try to fix? We have another month. And we can always pretend that we forgot about it, so we'll buy even more time.
Karate Jesus - you are my hero.
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Shadowmoon
I must admit, the idea seem sorta lame to be honest, BUT Linsey does have a way in surprising us in the past update. We all new about MOX, but when it went live, the quests and the imp were a nice pleasant surprise. Then the title update, storybooks and alternative to faction grind were a nice improvement. I'll hold my judgment til April because I'm sure there more than what meets the eye.
snaek
well they r fixing old problems that could've been fixed almost half a year ago
and labelling it has "huge new content update"
y must anet be so misleading?
and from a personal point of view, this update does nuthin for me
its all surface crap
yesh, i understand it will greatly please many others
but i'd prefer it if they at least included some sort of gameplay-improving update
and labelling it has "huge new content update"
y must anet be so misleading?
and from a personal point of view, this update does nuthin for me
its all surface crap
yesh, i understand it will greatly please many others
but i'd prefer it if they at least included some sort of gameplay-improving update
Tyla
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So I clicked on this to see some interesting balance changes and a lot of QQing. Instead I get a storage update.
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What a disappointment. When I saw "Dev Update" I thought that it was going to be meaningful enough for me to stop playing other games, but meh.
Janlijm
Maybe we dont get those storage upgrade since they said their servers were full. However we will get HoM account based. But instead of storage update they will make gw2 beta life because. 1 APRIL FOOLSDAY their will be no update they just give us GW2 beta. Atleast thats what i hope. 1APRIL FTW
Fril Estelin
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You know, to fix Palm Strike, you need to just double or triple the recharge. Change a 4 into a 8 or 12 and it's almost fixed.
But why try to fix? We have another month. And we can always pretend that we forgot about it, so we'll buy even more time. |
Nevertheless this doesn't negate all they did. This is where there's a difference in terms of criticisms.
Phaedra Firesoul
yay! improved storage!
Sir Skullcrasher
All I want for now is more storage tab. I'm currently 3 tabs full! Can't wait for the new update!
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still.....i wont have my hopes high
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Neo Nugget
Nothing exciting, but at least it's something.
Still think we should get another new set of missions (not quests).
Still think we should get another new set of missions (not quests).
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I do recall someone (Regina or Linsey maybe) stating that increasing storage was an issue with having server space and money. I'd like to know how this is being remedied. Are we going to have to pay for storage or is Anet making money from somewhere else?
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As for the details on how it will be implemented on your side, we're still working those out.
Chocobo1
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This is what we said regarding storage:
After more investigation, we discovered that it was slightly more complex than simply storage capacity and the money to purchase more servers. There were also issues involved with the way storage was designed/programmed in the code -- and these issues couldn't be tackled with just a month or two lead time, not with the number of people we have on the Live Team. As for the details on how it will be implemented on your side, we're still working those out. |
Anyways I think all the "QQ'ers" (I hate that term) are just "QQing" because they remember when all the updates used to bring new and exciting content. I don't think we can expect much anymore, and it doesn't help that whatever work they do gets bitched at as soon as it comes up. If I was doing a job and everything I did I got bitched at I would be less motivated each time. People have far too high expectations on what they want to see happen.
Regina Buenaobra
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well they r fixing old problems that could've been fixed almost half a year ago
and labelling it has "huge new content update" y must anet be so misleading? and from a personal point of view, this update does nuthin for me its all surface crap yesh, i understand it will greatly please many others but i'd prefer it if they at least included some sort of gameplay-improving update |
I'd also like to note that the three listed features are a few of what we're working on for April.
Dante the Warlord
what do you guys honestly expect? GW is a dying game and they are not making any money on it. On top of that NCSoft is in financial trouble. Do you really think they would have a lot of people working on a game with only a few thousand people playing daily? I think its reasonable and I will wait it out and collect my free z-keys in the meanwhile, they will still have skill updates. And look at MOX, we waited a while for that to come out and sure enough it was worth the wait. Im sure they aren't just going to add storage spaces (and if they do its probably going to be including key spaces, tome spaces, runes, etc).
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I still can't fathom how people are still slaying the same monsters with the same AI after 3+years.
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englitdaudelin
I'll happily take storage, HoM, and bags/packs updates along with whatever gets thrown our way. To borrow a meme....free game was free.
Getting updates after three years--getting an expanded live team--is a way of acknowledging and repaying some of the loyalty that the players have expended. It's an admission that whatever ways of doing things...could be done better. Sorry, but a company that genuinely doesn't care about you, won't invest time and money in keeping you even the least bit happy. Sure, A-Net's got a vested interest in keeping some percentage of people vaguely content--repeat customers and all that--but somewhere in what Regina and Linsey said, there's *gasp* truth. Not sure we need to parse it so critically.
I like Regina's last sentence, too. Nice tease.
Getting updates after three years--getting an expanded live team--is a way of acknowledging and repaying some of the loyalty that the players have expended. It's an admission that whatever ways of doing things...could be done better. Sorry, but a company that genuinely doesn't care about you, won't invest time and money in keeping you even the least bit happy. Sure, A-Net's got a vested interest in keeping some percentage of people vaguely content--repeat customers and all that--but somewhere in what Regina and Linsey said, there's *gasp* truth. Not sure we need to parse it so critically.
I like Regina's last sentence, too. Nice tease.
Regina Buenaobra
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Yay for more storage. Just out of curiosity, could you give us an estimate of how much storage we would be getting? Because if it's just one more tab I'm going to cry. Currently two characters of mine have to be used to store items. This is quite a problem for me considering I don't really want to spend $15 (my currency) on more character slots.
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bel unbreakable
yep more storage would sure be nice
SerenitySilverstar
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If they had a hard-working dev, he would ask the CM to talk to the community.
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Don't tell me that it's Anet's job to suck it up and take the insults. No human being will sit around and be happily slapped in the face.
And your view of how "hard working" the dev team are is - again - your opinion, based solely on what you see on the GAME side of things. You are not sitting in their office 8/10/12 hours a day, watching them code and dealing with the business side of creating a game.
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I'm sorry, but I can't give you an estimate. Any estimate I could give would probably change in the future, depending on what Joe is able to do and other factors.
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At the risk of being labeled a suck up, I would simply like to thank all of you for the job you're doing...