I am not trying to say one is more important than the other, but I I just wonder who is the larger populace as far as primarily pvp or pve players? IMHO it seems that the PvP players statistically seem to have a better understanding of where to go and who to talk to as far as influencing the changes made in the game, whereas there seems to be more pve'ers but they dont even know about things like this.
There are a lot of people that love this game and like what it provides, so they are not looking for places to complain about things, but when you come here, you seem to find a lot of people who are discontent with the content...lol
I just wonder if the percieved majority here really constitutes the majority of GW players.
I would like to hear your thoughts on this.
Who makes up the Majority of GW players? PvP or PvE?
persuadu
CHannum
No clue in actuality since I don't PVP, but unless GW is the biggest anomaly in gaming ever, it would be PVE by a wide margin. Multiplayer aspects of games always seem to get the most vocal crowd, but based on statements from game developers who do bother to reveal what's behind the curtain, represent a small fraction of their total sales.
OTOH, the currently playing population may be skewed by different retention rates - many PVE players might be the sort who play through and "beat" the game and then move on instead of collecting titles, minis, and other silly but fun distractions.
All I know is that I am glad they split the skills between PVP and PVE.
OTOH, the currently playing population may be skewed by different retention rates - many PVE players might be the sort who play through and "beat" the game and then move on instead of collecting titles, minis, and other silly but fun distractions.
All I know is that I am glad they split the skills between PVP and PVE.
kostolomac
I play PvE more than PvP because it's not so serious and provides more room for freedom in teams.
warrior running
Pve has probaly 20 times more people then pvp....pvp is absolutely dead....u know that when u can get top 100 hb in a week and can be top 1k in gvg if u LOSE and there is not many people in heroes ascent and the ones there run noob s***
Elder III
allot of PVPers may seem more intelligent about the game, but that is mainly bacuase they have played through the PVE aspects already and are now doing PVP instead of grinding for titles etc.... in PVE.
Zebideedee
PvE = Fun, PvP = I'm sure many militant little crybabies who think everyone on the planet but them are 'NOOBS' take the fun out of it so not really interested 
BowLad21
Got r6 two years ago, got bored of ha metas. PvE is good until GW2 so I can get GWAMM.
Pip Squeak
I play PvE more than PvP because it's more laidback and PvP can be VERY frustrating :P
Plus in PvE you can get cool equipment
Plus in PvE you can get cool equipment
Nessar
Both here. Although I only PvE to help people and the only pvp I do is JQ.
PvE just got boring with the same ol thing every zone, nothing changing. Not much of a challenge either, even in "HM".
PvP however, pissing people off is wayyy fun >]
PvE just got boring with the same ol thing every zone, nothing changing. Not much of a challenge either, even in "HM".
PvP however, pissing people off is wayyy fun >]
AidinSwiftarrow
I used to do lots of PVE, now I do some PVP (been playing 3 yrs) because it's more fun for me. Also, yeah, there are a lot of people who are very knowing of the game in PVP (but sometimes eletists....).
faraaz
I was going to make a long post about how the majority doesnt care about PvP beyond RA...but then I saw the poll results.
And I lol'd.
Nothing more to say.
And I lol'd.
Nothing more to say.
I pwnd U
I mainly PvE but I play my fair share of JQ/FA/AB and RA.
Ratson Itamar
My GW History:
1.99% PvE - 01% PvP
2.50% PvE - 50% PvP
3.00% PvE - 00% PvP
4.10% PvE - 90% PvP
I went through all the campaigns, elite areas and some HM(got bored re-e-ealy quickly) and because I'm not a title RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO there's nothing for me to do there. I'm going through it again though in order to remake my old Necro, but I'm going to do it really quickly.
1.99% PvE - 01% PvP
2.50% PvE - 50% PvP
3.00% PvE - 00% PvP
4.10% PvE - 90% PvP
I went through all the campaigns, elite areas and some HM(got bored re-e-ealy quickly) and because I'm not a title RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO there's nothing for me to do there. I'm going through it again though in order to remake my old Necro, but I'm going to do it really quickly.
ac1inferno
Did everything I needed to do in PvE. Then went to PvP and never looked back.
russiansteven
I play PvE more than PvP, and I find more people busy with PvE chars than PvP chars. If I do PvP, I shall be doing mainly RA.
HawkofStorms
Even games that are geared toward PvP play like Warhammer Online have a huge PvE contingent. I play both, but I probably play PvE more (since I don't like the whole forming a group for 1 hour for 30 minutes worth of game time thing).
Even the most die hard PvP fan in this game has to admit that there are more PvEers in terms of pure numbers.
Even the most die hard PvP fan in this game has to admit that there are more PvEers in terms of pure numbers.
FoxBat
You have to actually ask this question?
And I'll add that Guru is biased in the direction of pvp compared to the playing populace... albeit they are still grossly outnumbered.
And I'll add that Guru is biased in the direction of pvp compared to the playing populace... albeit they are still grossly outnumbered.
iVendetta
PvE towers over PvP.
Ratson Itamar
Wow, I'm quite astonished, I can believe that most of the community plays PvE more than PvP. I was so sure that it was the opposite way around that I didn't even give that a thought!
All of you got me highly curious. Why is that you're playing in that manner? Doesn't it get boring after the first time? What's keeping you there?
All of you got me highly curious. Why is that you're playing in that manner? Doesn't it get boring after the first time? What's keeping you there?
Apollo Smile
I play mainly PVE mostly, due to the people in my guild being a bunch of pussies. They are afraid to PVP.
Icy The Mage
This thread is also pretty biased, as most PvE players will not have delved as intensely into the game to register an account and frequent trips to Guru.
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Wow, I'm quite astonished, I can believe that most of the community plays PvE more than PvP. I was so sure that it was the opposite way around that I didn't even give that a thought!
All of you got me highly curious. Why is that you're playing in that manner? Doesn't it get boring after the first time? What's keeping you there? |
willie makeit
I like pve mostly with a bit of AB/JQ/FA. I have one character of each profession through all 4 games.
Expherious
Everyone takes those people in PvP who have PvE gear so seriously >_< omgz he has a voltaic spear omgz >_< cosmetics have absolutley nothing to do with a game, just cause theyve got good gear doesnt make them skilled.
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Wow, I'm quite astonished, I can believe that most of the community plays PvE more than PvP. I was so sure that it was the opposite way around that I didn't even give that a thought!
All of you got me highly curious. Why is that you're playing in that manner? Doesn't it get boring after the first time? What's keeping you there? |
For me pve is the only way to play the game, now I would play pvp if there was a way of making it work properly.
With pve when I get an hour or two spare I can fire up the game and play, no waiting just jump right in and play.
pvp depends on finding people to play against and really you want people with similar abilities to yourself so its a challenge without being a total walkover for one side or the other.
As with all the other online games there are probably a high proportion of idiots trouble makers time wasters etc and my time is far too valuable to waste it looking for a good game.
Should gw2 pvp be better set up balanced and moderated I would play pvp untill then its not for me.
HawkofStorms
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Wow, I'm quite astonished, I can believe that most of the community plays PvE more than PvP. I was so sure that it was the opposite way around that I didn't even give that a thought!
All of you got me highly curious. Why is that you're playing in that manner? Doesn't it get boring after the first time? What's keeping you there? |
And I can't believe you are "astonished." Just look at how many districts there are in HA and compare that to the major PvE towns like Kamadon and LA. And that doesn't even take into account all the people PvEing or farming somewhere else.
Shadowhaze
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PvE = Fun, PvP = I'm sure many militant little crybabies who think everyone on the planet but them are 'NOOBS' take the fun out of it so not really interested
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This thread is also pretty biased, as most PvE players will not have delved as intensely into the game to register an account and frequent trips to Guru.
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Alleji
PvE always had more players, always by a wide margin, and now it's even wider than it used to be when this game was good.
Probably the biggest factor is that everyone who plays PvP also plays or has played PvE before. PvE is the entry point. Virtually nobody starts the game by making a PvP char. If you had a bit more options in the poll, including "never played PvE" / "never played PvP" (or maybe replace "never" with "less than 5 hours total"), I can guarantee you that the number of people under the former would be zero or very close to it, while the opposite would be quite common.
Moreover, players that choose to move on to PvP usually don't completely quit PvE because if you're spending a lot of time logged into this game, you're often looking for something to do - HA and GvG teams don't assemble themselves on a whim, so your two choices are either RA/AB or PvE. So hardcore PvPers actually end up PvEing quite a lot. I used to do that when I played HA - sitting on vent, waiting for people to log on, rolling face on keyboard for ectos. Just look at any high-ranked GvG match - everyone is in PvE gear and everyone has a tormented shield.
Probably the biggest factor is that everyone who plays PvP also plays or has played PvE before. PvE is the entry point. Virtually nobody starts the game by making a PvP char. If you had a bit more options in the poll, including "never played PvE" / "never played PvP" (or maybe replace "never" with "less than 5 hours total"), I can guarantee you that the number of people under the former would be zero or very close to it, while the opposite would be quite common.
Moreover, players that choose to move on to PvP usually don't completely quit PvE because if you're spending a lot of time logged into this game, you're often looking for something to do - HA and GvG teams don't assemble themselves on a whim, so your two choices are either RA/AB or PvE. So hardcore PvPers actually end up PvEing quite a lot. I used to do that when I played HA - sitting on vent, waiting for people to log on, rolling face on keyboard for ectos. Just look at any high-ranked GvG match - everyone is in PvE gear and everyone has a tormented shield.
Fril Estelin
This poll would benefit from more options:
4) PvE and AB/FA/JQ (light PvP)
5) a bit of everything depending on the day
6) elite PvE and light PvP
7) elite PvE and serious PvP
This is not even complete.
I'm somewhere between 4 and 8 (PvE and I wish I could do some serious PvP).
4) PvE and AB/FA/JQ (light PvP)
5) a bit of everything depending on the day
6) elite PvE and light PvP
7) elite PvE and serious PvP
This is not even complete.
I'm somewhere between 4 and 8 (PvE and I wish I could do some serious PvP).
Skyy High
Note that, according to the poll, 40% of players on this forum say that they play PvP as much or more than PvE. That's not a tiny fraction, as most of the pure PvE players on this forum constantly say.
glacialphoenix
PvE + ABer here: I want to be able to jump online and do something if I want a short break.
Alleji
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Note that, according to the poll, 40% of players on this forum say that they play PvP as much or more than PvE. That's not a tiny fraction, as most of the pure PvE players on this forum constantly say.
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Poll needs more options, including those extremes "PvP, never PvEd" and "PvE, never PvPd"
willie makeit
High end pvp just seems too long to set up for me. I have tried to get into it and I wind up sitting idle for an hour or so with 5-7 people waiting to get a full group. Then when we get it going, lag on any one of the 16 players makes it unfair, someone in our group not being familiar with the skill bar they were given to run, facing a group that has a build that will counter what ever build we decided to run or vice versa, facing a group of horrible players and/or running a horrible build rolling them easy, listening to people yell at each other for something they don't have control over, etc. is time wasted not having fun for me.....
The idea of AB with territorial gains by winning I do like but I wish there was more of a benefit for all players on the kurzick/luxon sides. Maybe there needs to be more of a reward for pvp then faction to get more people want to do it. I don't know.
The idea of AB with territorial gains by winning I do like but I wish there was more of a benefit for all players on the kurzick/luxon sides. Maybe there needs to be more of a reward for pvp then faction to get more people want to do it. I don't know.
wtfisgoingon
A fatal mistake to build the PvP system in GW team based. There would 10x the amount of PvPers playing right now if the PvP system was not so strictly team reliant. People quit because some inexperienced player will not able to play a build correctly or inefficiently(GvG), or used the wrong/stupid skills (RA).
People do not like to wait 1 hour forming groups in HA to fail.
People do not like to wait 5 minutes waiting for a GvG match.
That's why you see most people in RA, because people dont like to spend 5 hours forming a damn group and forced to use a damn build which they dont like to use. People want free-style PvP where victory is self reliant, not reliant on others. There are 2-3 districts in HA, only because most of them are PvErs who wants that flashy /rank crap, the small percentage who do it purely for team based PvP is a small portion only.
People want to just go and PvP when ever, free style roaming PvP like in Diablo2.
Maybe that is just me. blah blah
People do not like to wait 1 hour forming groups in HA to fail.
People do not like to wait 5 minutes waiting for a GvG match.
That's why you see most people in RA, because people dont like to spend 5 hours forming a damn group and forced to use a damn build which they dont like to use. People want free-style PvP where victory is self reliant, not reliant on others. There are 2-3 districts in HA, only because most of them are PvErs who wants that flashy /rank crap, the small percentage who do it purely for team based PvP is a small portion only.
People want to just go and PvP when ever, free style roaming PvP like in Diablo2.
Maybe that is just me. blah blah
shoyon456
I think in the beginning the ratio of ppl that did pvp and pve was about equal, and people split their time on the two about equally. However, as it has been stated, as new campaigns came out and the meta required all the campaigns and even more specific builds, less people were encouraged to do high-end pvp, and tbh there has never been a reason to unless you just like the team aspect.
One of the reasons pve was, and has become more prominent, is because it has drifted away from the team idea (henchies of course, and then heros).
I have always seen pvp as a fun, enjoyable experience in a guild of friends, but an incredible waste of time and effort.
One of the reasons pve was, and has become more prominent, is because it has drifted away from the team idea (henchies of course, and then heros).
I have always seen pvp as a fun, enjoyable experience in a guild of friends, but an incredible waste of time and effort.
RedNova88
I play both equally, PvP is fun and interesting, and one's power doesn't come from the items they wear like other MMOs so people can't rely on said items to carry them, skill and synergy over time and gear. PvE reminds me of Diablo for some reason, and it's just a blast to come up with a build to counter each and every area on HM. My only wish for PvE would be the ability to use 7 heroes, but we've been down this road before...
Ratson Itamar
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Despite the "OMG GW is dying" crud you read on fanboy forums, the truth is there are still a lot of people playing who HAVEN'T beaten the game for the first time yet. There are still plenty of newbies in game and they all start out by playing PvE.
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Kamadan is not an example, it's nicknamed Spamadan for a reason.
maraxusofk
even when the game first started out, there was more ppl playing pve than pvp. It is just that the pvp population left faster than the amount of people entering into it. Was fun while it lasted.
Sadchaos
It does seem like PvE is towering over PvP, but note that most pvpers don't even bother to check this forum and are rather at the QQ forums. For what reason I have no idea but.
Wrath of m0o
Both.
When the game first came out, everyone pve'd because it was new, and if you wanted to PvP you had to PvE to get the skills from capturing them from the bosses.
Today, alot of PvE players suck at PvP because they got "RAN" through the game..got their builds pinged to them..and missed the learning curve that PvE was supposed to teach them.
Most of us veteran players..have played PvE..Failed..and had to learn why we were failing..and adapt to what we were fighting.
Getting ran through PvE teaches you nothing.
When the game first came out, everyone pve'd because it was new, and if you wanted to PvP you had to PvE to get the skills from capturing them from the bosses.
Today, alot of PvE players suck at PvP because they got "RAN" through the game..got their builds pinged to them..and missed the learning curve that PvE was supposed to teach them.
Most of us veteran players..have played PvE..Failed..and had to learn why we were failing..and adapt to what we were fighting.
Getting ran through PvE teaches you nothing.
Bryant Again
Largely what's easier to get into is always going to be more popular, so in this case I'd have to say PvE is the bigger portion. But you'll see a lot of players mingling in both, as well.