Why WOW can't kill Guild Wars

QFT.

So to sum it up, GW survives WoW because:
1) GW is not a WoW clone (nor an MMORPG, rather a CORPG)
2) maptravel option
3) instanced zones
4) secondary professions (that can be switched indefinately!!!)
5) loot allocation (a big plus imo)

But what about:
6) better graphics
7) No monthly fees!!!

Much more important imo. I think that #7 is what keeps Gw alive. You can play it whenever you like, and put it aside if you're bored with it, and pick it up later again, without paying for nothing.
Also: I love the loot allocation system. If I was playing a game where others could ambush me and steal my loot, I'd unistall right away. How lame is that.

Other things that were mentioned:
8) Less grind. (WoW requires grind, in GW, grind is an option. I can't compare them cuz I never played WoW though).
9) Re-adjustable attributes points / unlimited build options.
10) Better storyline / lore (although that has also been disputed in this thread)

Apples and Oranges.

hrmz, wow updated their webpage for tournament registration.

nah I can't argue with you untill i test that game more, but you really don't have to read tiny text while in the game, Theocrat, the whole thing is here.

Oh and, sjeng reminded me of the GW instant zoning. OMG, why must i run across 3 grassy plains, get chase by giants spiders follow by skeletal thingy then hell hounds and lycans just to get to the other side of the map. lol thats just ridiculous. and no monthly fees

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Going a little meta, it is clear from this thread there are a number of opinion-based areas where GW and WoW fall on different sides - such as art style and story. The fact that this is true is one of the reasons GW and WoW co-exist - they appeal to different audiences.

Uhuh, and pressing M, getting beamed up by Scotty and traveling 10,000 miles in a split second isn't ridiculous.

Remember, it's because of the map travel and instanced gameplay GW doesn't have Epic Mounts

Indeed it isn't. It's convenient.

WOW cannot kill GW because of one thing and one thing only.

$15/month

I like both games. tbh i only play WoW during summer cause then i have so much more time than school.

I want them all! however if I have to choose, i still go for M you know. cause i can only see mounts useful, if and only if you can fight riding them, and also they don't take up valuable storages, and also not selling for 10 million for a crappy mount, and 1trillion for the epic ones.

on travel...
what's really ridiculous is that i have to annoyingly scrape the borders of every zone for it to count towards exploration, while in wow i simply just have to enter the area for it to count.

tbh, i don't think its as important for wow players to be able to access every single area within the click of a mouse. if wow was built like gw, except didn't have map travel, then there would be serious problems (and vice versa).

No WoW won't kill Guild Wars but PWI can kill WoW the graphics are better to.

You know, I took the plunge and downloaded it last night...

It does look better than a while back... lets see how it plays (and 35 million players in the Asia districts is VERY impressive)

Well...I've played WoW to level 67 so I won't be as biased. While WoW has waaaaaay more content and better PvE, the PvP is lacking. Guild Wars requires more skill for things like interrupts, spikes, skill chaining, etc. Guild Wars also has better PvP.

Basically if you're a hardcore PvE'er you'll like WoW, if you like easy leveling and more skill and PvP, then Guild Wars.

That's a gross simplification.

that's a quite relevant oppinion. Can say it has a certain sense..

Every time I hear this bunch of baloney, I cringe. You are telling me you can do all three campaigns, and COMPLETE all the elite areas(Urgoz, Deep, DoA), plus Hard Mode, in 48 hours? I hereby challenge you to do so. Get a newbie character for all three campaigns, play each game to its finish, and do all the elite areas for each respective campaign. Oh, and then hop into PvP, start at FA/AB/JQ, hop into RA/TA, and try to get into HA or GvG.

In 48 hours.

OT, One of the biggest overlooked factors is their timing. WoW came out late 2004, and GW in early 2005. Both were started by devs from the world of Blizzard. WoW took advantage of the people burned out on UO/EQ who weren't impressed with FFXI, and offered an immense, persistent world. GW took a more instanced model, emphasizing balance and competitive PvP, and took away level grinding. Both offered a lot to the casual player, which, unlike most of us posting here, are the REAL money makers for MMO games. A casual player can play, an hour or so a day, 3-5 days a week, for years before running out of gameplay. Between the nicely written campaigns in GW, and the wide, persistent world of WoW, there is plenty for them to do in either game.

Besides, There is no game that has a character like the Mesmer ;-)

No. No game is going to kill WoW.

Also, graphics are irrelevant. If games with better graphics killed games with worse graphics, GW would have killed WoW. If you haven't noticed, GW has sold ~6 million copies, and WoW has 11 millions subscribers.

Ok, I'll say it again.

Anyone who hasn't played WoW since WotLK (i.e. Nov 13, 2008) has no right to speak since WoW has changed so much since then it isn't even funny.

WoW endgame is more casual than GW. If you don't believe that or know why, you have no right to comment.

Quest design and story design in Northrend is also superior to anything GW has to offer. (Hi, Wrathgate).

PvP in both games is flawed just as equally. Atleast Blizzard does overhauls once in awhile.