Your Sabway/Discordway variations...

I use a modified Sabway for Charr, the MM above plus standard healer N/RT and Curse N for my ranger. If I play my Curse Nec I replace hero Curse N with Com/Ldr P/W Then why do you have trouble with charr? SS + a little shutdown destroys charr.

My melee did fine in the Charr homelands so I dont know what you are talking about. finish eotn and get a thing called Hard Mode then talk. Charr mobs drop fast up until you bump into one with dominator, avenger, wardkeeper and a pair of flameshielders and maybe a blademaster or a healer running around, that is quite annoying when you are a melee character for obvious reasons.

finish eotn and get a thing called Hard Mode then talk. Charr mobs drop fast up until you bump into one with dominator, avenger, wardkeeper and a pair of flameshielders and maybe a blademaster or a healer running around, that is quite annoying when you are a melee character for obvious reasons. They're not too bad if you take a spammable condition skill on your character. If you have discord on your necroes a single enfeebling blood should be enough to allow you to use it to spike down the charr, because they're nearly always enchanted by conjures or aegis.

You can micro enfeebling blood, but I'm lazy so sometimes I just give my curse guy weaken armor because heroes don't seem to like to use weakness on the casters now. When I vanquished those charr zones though, I just took barbed spear and used that along with some putrid biles and meekness I think.

Splinter weapons are good for mowing down the casters sitting in wells, and flagging henchies/heroes out of meteor shower is wise too.

finish eotn and get a thing called Hard Mode then talk. Charr mobs drop fast up until you bump into one with dominator, avenger, wardkeeper and a pair of flameshielders and maybe a blademaster or a healer running around, that is quite annoying when you are a melee character for obvious reasons. Get a clue. I only play in HM. They are annoying but not that difficult to kill if you know who carry the res. A little reading up of the area and knowing how to body block goes a long way.

[Aura of the Lich][Animate Bone Horror] I don't understand why you are wasting 2 skills slots for Bone Horrors, yes they have better armor levels than other minions, but they aren't that great, don't get me wrong Aura of the Lich is a great skill when used properly, but if u are using it, ur better off making a dedicated bomber out of him as using Aura with a full set of Death Nova'd minions is devastating. And if ur gonna follow that path, you might as well throw in [Animate Shambling Horror] for the 2 minions you get out it and the extra conditioning.

Another suggestion, if you are gonna go with a minion bomber path whether it be for a Sabway master, or a Discord modification, run it on a rit... the energy management isn't quite as good but using something along the lines of the following is absolutely devastating to a clustered group of enemies (which if aren't already that way, it's pretty easy to make them group):

[Animate Bone Minions] or [Animate Shambling Horror], [Aura of the Lich], [Death Nova], [Blood of the Master] or [Putrid Bile], [Boon of Creation], [Explosive Growth], [Signet of Creation], [Spirit's Gift]

Death Magic = 12
Spawning Power = 12 + 1 + 1

**If you use [Animate Bone Minions] use [Blood of the Master], if you use [Animate Shambling Horror] use [Putrid Bile] **

I don't understand why you are wasting 2 skills slots for Bone Horrors, yes they have better armor levels than other minions, but they aren't that great, don't get me wrong Aura of the Lich is a great skill when used properly, but if u are using it, ur better off making a dedicated bomber out of him as using Aura with a full set of Death Nova'd minions is devastating. And if ur gonna follow that path, you might as well throw in [Animate Shambling Horror] for the 2 minions you get out it and the extra conditioning. Have you ever used minions in HM before? They get killed in 2 hits, way to fast for the hero MM to get [Death Nova] on them let alone [Jagged Bones]. I just switched from my usual setup to JB/Minions bomber and went out in Charr area in HM. I attacked some small groups to get the full set of 10 pre fight. The initial wave of minions waded in and blew up, did some nice damage then he started replacing his losses. The minions were killed just as fast as he could raise them, I even saw Olias stutter 3 or 4 times as he tried to cast JB and Nova on minions that he just raised and died immediately.

I then switched to [Aura of the Lich][Animate Bone horror] then attacked the exact same group after raising 5 Horrors, the wave went in and 2 blew up. After a few seconds of MoP,SS plus usuall AoE stuff I clicked [Aura of the Lich] and I was back to 7 Horrors, 2 more blew up and the whole Charr group was dead. I finished the fight with exactly what I started with , no deaths, an MM who had a full set of Prot spells cast multiple times in the fight and a very bored healer.

I don't see an issue with [Aura of the Lich][Animate Bone Horror] as a HM bomber replacement ( and I have tried all combinations ), I can have 6 Horrors up for each 1xShambling and 2 xFends and they blow up just as good as minions. The difference is they last long enough to get Nova on them or for him to use his other abilities to help the party. Its not what the individual summoning spells do in HM its what the whole MM build does to help the team.

P.S. Just finished Rragar's Menagerie HM with him, words cannot describe how much fun it is to [Aura of the lich] halfway through a huge Charr fight when you already have a full set of 10 Horrors and there is 15 corpses on the ground. Does small thermal nuclear explosion mean anything? ( Olias had Nova on most of them ) hehe

Get a clue. I only play in HM. They are annoying but not that difficult to kill if you know who carry the res. A little reading up of the area and knowing how to body block goes a long way. then dont make stupid posts.
yes, some mobs you can encounter are annoying, thats what I said. Only annoying for physicals though since they can stack miss and block so I had to change my build around just for one area (zzzz) it's not annoying if you play a caster though, they dropped very fast when I played AP caller + Discord for the sake of seeing how it performs.