So ... why don't YOU /report?
ZenRgy
Too much bureaucrat form filling.
Silicon Based
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Nanood
Well. First off. I hate you and your leeching bretheren.
But to answer your question. Yesterday I went on a reporting rampage of all the lame leechers in JQ. Got a bunch of Dishonorable and couldn't play for a while. This was after asking team mates to also report. One thing I noticed is that the Hex Discription for Dishonorable is INCORRECT. Nowhere in the discription does it say "YOU HAVE BEEN GIVIN A TEMPORARY BAN BECAUSE YOUR LAME TEAM MATES COULDN'T BE BOTHERED TO REPORT AS YOU DID. MAYBE NEXT TIME YOU DECIDE TO USE THIS BADLY IMPLEMENTED SYSTEM YOU WILL THINK TWICE BECAUSE THE ONLY PERSON WHO IS GOING TO SUFFER IS YOU." |
Indeed the reported gets busted and the leecher leeches on and on and on
Ate of DK
I just don't care because Anet doesn't care.
Why should I do their job and get backfired by a system that doesn't work...
Why should I do their job and get backfired by a system that doesn't work...
Mister_Smiley
I started out reporting people, but after a while none of them where disapareing and i was like"whats the point?" Since anet is going to do anything it just a waist of time and that was that i stoped doing it, hell i even reported some of the botters as well. Anywho i don't plain to do it ever again because there is no point. It seams Anet isn't doing anything to fix it, so why do it at all.
X CDH X
GW is a free to play game so ur gonna get a loads of nubs and retards
Squishy ftw
Meh, reporting..sounds like an effort I have to put in. Not going to happen..
Zakarr
What is ArenaNet's opinion about ranger spirits in Aspenwood? I used a build which changed the conditions a bit because wanted to have something new, then some retard spammed the team chat that my spirits were bad and I got four leech reports. The hex was short, but people can report others if they think that some skills are bad?
Ctb
Because self-policing in an MMO is a terrible idea that will never work in any circumstance ever.
Exhibit A: the /report "feature" in Guild Wars....
If mmo players were mature enough to self-police they wouldn't need a way to go crying to mommy anyway.
On a more serious note, I did actually try it a few times, but nobody else on my team could be bothered, so I got kicked out instead. Yay.
Exhibit A: the /report "feature" in Guild Wars....
If mmo players were mature enough to self-police they wouldn't need a way to go crying to mommy anyway.
On a more serious note, I did actually try it a few times, but nobody else on my team could be bothered, so I got kicked out instead. Yay.
Callie The Healer
I heard lots of times when people look for leachers... I didn't know what it was. CAn somebody tell me what leaching is so I don't accidentally do it?
Earth
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by upier
So ... why aren't YOU reporting the leeching bastards?
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by upier
Nobody gives a shit.
|
12321341234
Besides, sometimes I leech too. Obviously no one bothers reporting.
glacialphoenix
Because nobody else does, and I've seen various cases where you report one, they're not afk, and the whole sodding team of leechers cheerfully /reports you back. So you get the dishonour and they get off scot free.
Not very encouraging for would-be /reporters, is it?
Not very encouraging for would-be /reporters, is it?
Steps_Descending
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Callie The Healer
I heard lots of times when people look for leachers... I didn't know what it was. CAn somebody tell me what leaching is so I don't accidentally do it?
|
Jenn
I don't report most people for anything because it would mean that I care, and one thing that an asshole loves and feeds off of is pissing others off; they don't care that they do it, so why should I give them the satisfaction? It may seem like backwards logic, but I really, really just don't care. If my teammates want me to, then I may, but I'm not going to actively seek vengeance on a person I'll probably never play with again.
I also don't report people for usernames or flaming me, etc. I think it's RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing retarded to be offended by a username, and flamers are at least a little bit hilarious. Just shrug them off. They're probably some 15 year old kid who won't get laid for another decade
There's always the ignore list, too.
I guess I kinda think the /report function is for cry-babies. Sorry =O
I also don't report people for usernames or flaming me, etc. I think it's RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing retarded to be offended by a username, and flamers are at least a little bit hilarious. Just shrug them off. They're probably some 15 year old kid who won't get laid for another decade
There's always the ignore list, too.I guess I kinda think the /report function is for cry-babies
. Sorry =O
Ctb
Quote:
| I guess I kinda think the /report function is for cry-babies |
I've said it before, I'll say it again, I would happily pay a premium for access to a heavily moderated server that kept the children permanently at bay. There are more than enough places on the internet to be stupid. I want one where being stupid is strictly forbidden and any intentional attempt at stupidity is actively, mericlessly, and permanently crushed beneath the cold, steel-toed boot of a wrathful moderator.
Also, I may take the internet a little too seriously....
glacialphoenix
Quote:
| The hex was short, but people can report others if they think that some skills are bad? |
Short answer: yes they can, and you can't do anything about it except suck it up.
Linksys
I'm always afraid that if I /report a legitimate issue, Anet won't be able to find it or figure it out and assume I'm faking it. Then I get banned. Maybe not likely but still, being an American has conditioned that in my mind. If I can walk away from something I witnessed unaffected, I simply walk away. It's not worth the trouble to get involved. It's not something I agree with but it's a matter of survival. I want to keep my account. That's a small scale comparison to real life where I want to avoid having a criminal record, avoid retaliation from people who get arrested, and avoid being pulled from work to show up at some court or police station which will still get me fired from my low wage mcjob. I guess that translates to me in this game. Just like it does in the work place. If I can walk away like I wasn't there and saw nothing, that's what I do. So no, I don't do the /report thing.
Zahr Dalsk
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by X CDH X
GW is a free to play game so ur gonna get a loads of nubs and retards
|
Any online game, really.
Let me rephrase it in more general terms: Where there are humans, many of them WILL be idiots.
Ctb
Quote:
| ...avoid being pulled from work to show up at some court or police station which will still get me fired from my low wage mcjob. |
Now, in ANET's case it's entirely different. Testifying against leechers is a very good way to get a temporary PvP ban, unfortunately. Sadly, that's what happens when you try to use a small perl script as a moderator.
JoeKnowMo
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Ctb
Testifying against leechers is a very good way to get a temporary PvP ban, unfortunately.
|
But if you're spamming an emote in Spamadan, Gaile shows up to warn you.
Pretty clear where their priorities lie.
refer
What if other players could observe JQ/FA and report leechers there as well as /unfair reporter and /lazy.
Gun Pierson
I might get dishonor and that isn't worth it to me, I want to keep on playing. On top I'm most of the time busy focusing on the game that's being played.
Also when people have to play the police over other players instead of GM's keeping an eye on things, is where it goes wrong imo.
Also when people have to play the police over other players instead of GM's keeping an eye on things, is where it goes wrong imo.
Ate of DK
Guess Anet hasn't been reading the forums lately. Otherwise they don't give us a "bots and leechers get double faction reward weekend".
T. Drake
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by StormX
[...] The consistent presence of a certain Mes/Rt bot is testament to that. [...]
|
I'm sure it won't change anything, but at least I can bother some GM since they don't care about the ingame report system.
Banane-O-Man
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by T. Drake
This one gets special treatment from me. Everytime I see him, I write a ticket on PlayNC’s support site. This bot has been around for months and is very well known among other FA players.
I'm sure it won't change anything, but at least I can bother some GM since they don't care about the ingame report system. |
Leechers are at the point where they start ruining the fun for everyone.
Vel
I report whenever I see leechers. If I am w/ guildies or friends (thanks to excellent countdown tactics), you can bet your rear that every leecher will get reported too by everyone of us. That said, I have seen matches with 4+ leechers and those leechers, after being reported, started reporting the people who were actually playing the game.
Now, if I am alone, I report and simply leave the match. Playing to help a leecher gain factions is idiocy and much more painful than getting the stupid dishonorable hex.
** Not even gonna wonder about what may happen in JQ & FA this weekend.
Now, if I am alone, I report and simply leave the match. Playing to help a leecher gain factions is idiocy and much more painful than getting the stupid dishonorable hex.
** Not even gonna wonder about what may happen in JQ & FA this weekend.
UnChosen
Hmmm....should I report with 7 leechers on my team? This is such a difficult question!
makosi
Ok so Fort Aspenwood is a total mess and they're promoting it, along with Jade Quarry, in a weekend event.
Reporting a leecher awards the suspect 2 dishonor points and they need 10 to recieve the Dishonorable Hex however when there are only 4 active players on your side, you can't successfully apply that hex to leechers in one round [warning: big image]:
This is also weakened by the number of people who don't understand the /report system and how it works, people who prematurely quit and 'nearest ally' follow bots who often go undetected because they're actively moving around the map (although contributing nothing other than minion fodder).
The funny thing is I'm typing the post right now because *I* have somehow acquired the Dishonorable Hex. I didn't leech or bot (I'd never defend myself if I did) and I didn't see anybody label my character name as a leecher in the chat window. I also never left a game before the end.
So this is why I will no longer /report. I can't control the apathy of other teammates; or they may also be trying to keep their slate clean by not risking /reporting.
Flaws, flaws, flaws.
I'm aware of the strong counter arguments to my complaints. I believe they are:
- "lol guild wars"
- "It's FA, nobody cares"
- "lern2play"
...and while they are compelling claims, I enjoy Fort Asswood when it's played properly despite having one side of my face all red and swollen because of extreme /facepalming at Defy Pain tanks and Vigorous Spirit Assassins.
Can we have some staff presence please or some way of interacting with customer support without tickets and automated responses? If Gaile can come to Spamadan over tonic noise grievances, surely a member of the team can work their way to JQ+FA.
~
Also, not to hijack the thread, but please change the FA map so that rangers can't solo Amber Mines from the Kurzick Base with a Flatbow/Longbow. The rangers also cause turtles to become stuck as the turtles fruitlessly try to nuke them but inevitibley miss because of the giant wall. The rangers with Purge Signet, Troll Unguent and spacial awareness can halt proceedings for an entire game. QQ
HAVE FUN!
Reporting a leecher awards the suspect 2 dishonor points and they need 10 to recieve the Dishonorable Hex however when there are only 4 active players on your side, you can't successfully apply that hex to leechers in one round [warning: big image]:
This is also weakened by the number of people who don't understand the /report system and how it works, people who prematurely quit and 'nearest ally' follow bots who often go undetected because they're actively moving around the map (although contributing nothing other than minion fodder).
The funny thing is I'm typing the post right now because *I* have somehow acquired the Dishonorable Hex. I didn't leech or bot (I'd never defend myself if I did) and I didn't see anybody label my character name as a leecher in the chat window. I also never left a game before the end.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Official Guild Wars Wiki
Players who report a team member for leeching without a third of their team also reporting that player will also receive 2 dishonor points.
|
Flaws, flaws, flaws.
I'm aware of the strong counter arguments to my complaints. I believe they are:
- "lol guild wars"
- "It's FA, nobody cares"
- "lern2play"
...and while they are compelling claims, I enjoy Fort Asswood when it's played properly despite having one side of my face all red and swollen because of extreme /facepalming at Defy Pain tanks and Vigorous Spirit Assassins.
Can we have some staff presence please or some way of interacting with customer support without tickets and automated responses? If Gaile can come to Spamadan over tonic noise grievances, surely a member of the team can work their way to JQ+FA.
~
Also, not to hijack the thread, but please change the FA map so that rangers can't solo Amber Mines from the Kurzick Base with a Flatbow/Longbow. The rangers also cause turtles to become stuck as the turtles fruitlessly try to nuke them but inevitibley miss because of the giant wall. The rangers with Purge Signet, Troll Unguent and spacial awareness can halt proceedings for an entire game. QQ
HAVE FUN!
wilebill
I've never reported anyone, never been reported, never leeched either.
The report system is designed to get those who report leechers into trouble from what I can see. Reported leechers do not seem to get banned.
I've played Fort Aspenwood since it came into existence. Back in those early days, there was a leecher always there 24/7 it seemed. Everyone else cursed him. I began giving him a friendly wave and an occasional friendly whisper. Presently, we began to chat.
This leecher had been plying his trade for 5 months at the time. Friendly fellow. College student. He had made an enormous amount from selling amber, and made a respectable amount of real money along the way ... somehow. I asked him if ANet had ever contacted him. He said they had, he had told them what he was doing. They told him they wished he would play the game, but otherwise took no action against him. Go figure.
Well, this is double points at Competitive Missions weekend. Will ANet step in to control leeching at least for a couple of days? I hope so, but I'm not counting on it.
The report system is designed to get those who report leechers into trouble from what I can see. Reported leechers do not seem to get banned.
I've played Fort Aspenwood since it came into existence. Back in those early days, there was a leecher always there 24/7 it seemed. Everyone else cursed him. I began giving him a friendly wave and an occasional friendly whisper. Presently, we began to chat.
This leecher had been plying his trade for 5 months at the time. Friendly fellow. College student. He had made an enormous amount from selling amber, and made a respectable amount of real money along the way ... somehow. I asked him if ANet had ever contacted him. He said they had, he had told them what he was doing. They told him they wished he would play the game, but otherwise took no action against him. Go figure.
Well, this is double points at Competitive Missions weekend. Will ANet step in to control leeching at least for a couple of days? I hope so, but I'm not counting on it.
Giga_Gaia
Everyone at Anet already knows about the massive leechers/botters issue. But none of them will give a flying ****. So, why even bother when you just can't win?
Sir Seifus Halbred
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by wilebill
never been reported
|
Even if you feel you don't fit in any of the categories, you still don't know if you've never been reported.
Anyhow, back on topic. I only report leechers if someone else on my team reports them first, that way I won't get dishonor hex.
Giga_Gaia
Quote:
| The consistent presence of a certain Mes/Rt bot is testament to that. |
upier
![Ec]-[oMaN](/static/static/../Img/avatar8384_2.gif){kind=avatar}
Ec]-[oMaN
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by cebalrai
One reason people don't report is because they don't know how. Even though it tells you at the beginning of every AB/etc match how to report, people don't read it. I say "plz report the leech in base" and get 1-2 people saying how?
|
Scythe O F Glory
You seem to be forgetting that this weekend event, along with almost every other weekend event, is chock full of noobs. This might explain why they don't know how to report.
Kumu Honua
Except that this post was made well before the event.
AngelWJedi
i only report when someone else does. because i dont want to get a hex. 
RedNova88
I generally report whenever I see someone leeching or botting. It's just that nothing ever really happens, I have never gotten dishonor myself. IMO, Anet should just let people with potential GMing skills sign up to be some sort of volunteer GM that can somehow take care of botters/leechers. Don't ask me how, it just seems like a good idea.
Vel
3 or more reports and you don't get win reward points anymore. I think they have introduced that now.
makosi
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Vel
3 or more reports and you don't get win reward points anymore. I think they have introduced that now.
|
But this system doesn't compensate the other players who missed out on potential faction and/or a potential victory as a result of one or more inactive members of the team.
These missions need tougher GM intervention because the /report system clearly isn't having the desired result. Then again, some people will just claim they had emergency diarrhea and couldn't participate as a result. What to do? :S
Vel
I agree. Report system purely sux. People still don't report correctly. And, after 5 matches, I got auto-dishonored and then 6th or 7th one got me another. Gave up now.
GM intervention with Town or Outpost lockout is the way to go. Auto dishonor is stupid. Also you don't get factions if NPCs you attack die when you are dead, that prompted less bombers and more leechers. What a nice way to respond to people's QQing abt JQ bombers!
Ok.. raging is a better option than trying to report. 5 dishonor points for rage. 2 for reporting leechers and then with the possibility of getting reported by the leecher its 2 points. And sometimes, others chime in too. So, that can go above 6 points or so. Best is to just leave the match and join another.
GM intervention with Town or Outpost lockout is the way to go. Auto dishonor is stupid. Also you don't get factions if NPCs you attack die when you are dead, that prompted less bombers and more leechers. What a nice way to respond to people's QQing abt JQ bombers!
Ok.. raging is a better option than trying to report. 5 dishonor points for rage. 2 for reporting leechers and then with the possibility of getting reported by the leecher its 2 points. And sometimes, others chime in too. So, that can go above 6 points or so. Best is to just leave the match and join another.