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Bryant Again

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Join Date: Feb 2006

17 Apr 2009 at 11:00 - 681

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamWind

I'm actually not fully in agreement of this statement. But since I agree with most of it I won't elaborate.

Do you mean that they shouldn't be having any micro purchases whatsoever?
If so, then I agree wholeheartedly (if not please explain, I be lost!). I'm more going on the basis of ANet being stubborn and on their rule of "we have to sell at least something..." And if it's going to be anything I'd rather it not change gameplay function.

But still: the only thing I'd like to see purchasable from the online store would be additional chapters.

Empress Amarox

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2008

Above you.

Mo/W

17 Apr 2009 at 11:12 - 682

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Re-reading some posts in this thread, I wonder if people are consistent with their reasoning. For example, would you avoid purchasing a sandwich or go to a restaurant, because it's actually a lot cheaper to make the sandwich or the meal yourself? In essence a lot of people are saying that it's cheaper to have char slots and accounts instead of storage panes, but aren't most of the "services" we pay for in RL about "convenience"?

Not comparable.

You go to a restaurant and the food is already fixed, at a higher price because it is served to you and prepared by their specifications (e.g. product presented to you as a service).

You go home, the food is not fixed, you have to fix it yourself. Of course it is cheaper to make it yourself (product as product).

This is the equivalent of buying a storage pane or hacking the GW server and programming a storage pane yourself from scratch instead. No cigar.

A better example is buying a CD with 19 songs for $2-10 on Amazon or the same 19 songs on iTunes for $19. One method you have to wait for shipment and rip the songs from the CD yourself, the other method you can get them instantly, but you pay at least twice as much. I believe this is a much more fair illusion, not accounting for piracy.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

17 Apr 2009 at 11:21 - 683

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longasc

The only thing that is truly shocking is that there are people who really want to pay 10$ for a storage tab.

I can't believe you'd find something like that shocking. It's been a fact of life for ages that people will splurge preposterous amounts of money on the most vapid of luxuries. Spending 10 bucks on a storage slot doesn't even make a blip on that radar. It's far below anything I'd find shocking, it's not even worth a shrug.

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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17 Apr 2009 at 12:13 - 684

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabwatt

I will gladly pay for convience :-)

I would too, it'll depend on this "one-time offer" that the announcement is talking about. But I'm quite willing to spend $10 on 2 storage tabs (maybe $20 for 4). And, as a tiny epsilon of "feeling good", I'm helping make sure Anet gets something for their work (I didn't buy much from them, no char slots or unlock packs, only a few cheap chapters/CEs that also help me play with my wife) and that GW2 gets on even firmer grounds. I'm sure some Guru poster will feel the urge to laugh at that, or ridicule me for how "rich" or how much wasting" it is to spend $10 on a luxury. But well I don't really care. And I'm fully conscious that IF (big IF, I don't believe it's true!) Anet is indeed testing us with this, I'd be contributing to their feeling that it's alright to go this route. Nevertheless, I'm ready to face the consequences and not buy GW2 if it goes one step further than that. And as I said, I think this "route" is very improbable, and Anet doesn't have to stick to "everything is free" model for me, they've proven to me (not to everyone) that they're still the company they were 2.5 years ago, but in a very different context.

You know, it's like that time when Gaile went from CR/M to support, we had this very long thread on Guru, then Regina came and it felt very strange, uneasy. This feeling of having lost something (although some may say that CR/M wasn't written on the GW box, contrarily to f2p). But now I realise that we've also gained something with Regina. Here we haven't really lost something, apart from the utopian opportunity to get a completely free update. We are going to have a lot of free stuff. And even after Regina has said clearly that the tabs cost them $5, people will still argue that it's a lie. Some people are not pleased, some will never be, but it's always been like that since I've been on Guru.

Uor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

A/

17 Apr 2009 at 12:26 - 685

basicly they want u to pay to hold things u allready paid for

just make it like ingame gold

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

17 Apr 2009 at 12:31 - 686

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

And even after Regina has said clearly that the tabs cost them $5, people will still argue that it's a lie.

I don't believe that is true. She said that a transaction from the online store costs 5 dollars and that was known information from the BMP discussions. That means it cost the same to sell 4 panes in one transaction (5 bucks) as to sell one pane. On the flip side 4 panes brought individually say one per day would cost $20 in transaction costs (4 times the $5 transaction cost).

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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17 Apr 2009 at 12:48 - 687

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud4905

.....when I could buy a new character for that price and have 45 spaces (or more with this new character storage), ..... How stupid do we look?....

i started to write something but what Cloud said sums it up. as to the "stupid" comment i'm sure the Marketing department did it's research and confirmed we the consumers are not stupid.

so i'm

/signed

and i'll pass up on this "deal"

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

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London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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17 Apr 2009 at 12:50 - 688

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

I don't believe that is true. She said that a transaction from the online store costs 5 dollars and that was known information from the BMP discussions. That means it cost the same to sell 4 panes in one transaction (5 bucks) as to sell one pane. On the flip side 4 panes brought individually say one per day would cost $20 in transaction costs (4 times the $5 transaction cost).

For me her sentence "We have to charge a minimum of $5 USD in order to recoup the base costs of a transaction" means that the tab costs overall $5, all things included (cost of designers/devs to make it, cost for data storage, cost for online transaction). But maybe I got it wrong. Because if it's a 5$ baseline for any online transaction and then $5 for the cost of designing/developping+data storage, then the last bit is quite cheap (but the $5 for an online transaction is then ridiculous!)

Mangione

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

17 Apr 2009 at 13:05 - 689

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

We are going to have a lot of free stuff. And even after Regina has said clearly that the tabs cost them $5,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

For me her sentence "We have to charge a minimum of $5 USD in order to recoup the base costs of a transaction" means that the tab costs overall $5, all things included

Then, if it is true that transactions have a cost of 5$ for them, I think ANet will have no problem at all selling 4 panes togheter, as a single offer, for 25$ (5$ each pane + 5$ cost of an online transaction).

I'll be waiting to see if this is true.

beware: 25$ would still be more than I paid for a full campaign, but it would be better than 40$.

On another hand, I am worried that these announced "big content updates" each 4 months will come with an associated cost.
What if in August/September update we are faced with a new "optional purchase" that will cost again more than a single campaign (for way less content)?

rabwatt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/Me

17 Apr 2009 at 13:15 - 690

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longasc

The only thing that is truly shocking is that there are people who really want to pay 10$ for a storage tab.
.

You are?!?

But we play a game where people spends days of their lives farming just so they can fill up their storage with useless items..... or gain money so they can buy that special minipet worth 100k + ectos

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

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London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

17 Apr 2009 at 13:16 - 691

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mangione

On another hand, I am worried that these announced "big content updates" each 4 months will come with an associated cost.
What if in August/September update we are faced with a new "optional purchase" that will cost again more than a single campaign (for way less content)?

Then, and only then, I will start questioning the "change" and start thinking seriously about my purchase of GW2 (unless it's something similar to this update, with a non-important feature, definitely non-breaking for me). IMHO at this point, this is fear or overspeculation.

Once you remember that their job is on the line, that their actions in GW1 will directly impact the success of GW2 which they've been working on for almost 2 years and have the highest hopes for. Then you start thinking that they may not be thinking we're stupid, maybe we are misinterpreting what they do.

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Ain't that forecast same for every day? Kinda monotonous, if you ask me.

I must have been lucky then, because I had a few sunny days on Guru. Sure, it was just a glimpse of bright sun in the middle of the clouds, yet not seeing Pre-searing cadets create ridiculous threads or other troll thread for their sick fun is good. And there are still people here which I read every time they post, because I know it's going to be interesting. The rest goes to /dev/null

Longasc

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Join Date: May 2005

17 Apr 2009 at 13:25 - 692

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabwatt

You are?!?

But we play a game where people spends days of their lives farming just so they can fill up their storage with useless items..... or gain money so they can buy that special minipet worth 100k + ectos

Well, I did not manage such excesses in my active Guild Wars time.

What point do you want to make?

That it is okay for people who want more storage to pay 10$ for another account, storage tabs and whatever because some players are dumb, addicted and obsessed?

Prepare for more artificial scarcity of the supposedly expensive "storage" in Guild Wars 2. So that you have an incentive to buy "optional" storage and other things.

Bryant said it several times already, let them sell vanity items for vanity prices in their shop. Nothing more.

We already crossed this line with skill unlock packs and storage tabs. I hope they stick to their promise that pvp interested players can get access to all skills without having to buy an unlock pack in GW2 by default.

pumpkin pie

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bumble bee

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17 Apr 2009 at 13:36 - 693

"And given that, we can't go down a path of publishing on a platform that treats its games as products, and where there's no provision there to continue having an ongoing relationship with those customers." Jeff Strian, circa Jul 30, 2007

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

17 Apr 2009 at 13:38 - 694

I am willing to bet that most people here waste more than $10 dollars a week. If ANET says they need $10 dollars to recoup their cost so be it. Would I like to see them for less, sure.

pumpkin pie

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bumble bee

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17 Apr 2009 at 13:49 - 695

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger

...If ANET says they need $10 dollars to recoup their cost so be it. Would I like to see them for less, sure.

But they didn't, that's the point, they say we are working on a huge update for April, to me at least, either you don't say anything like the case with GW2 or don't make dubious/ambiguous announcements or make one type of announcement then release something else.

BenjZee

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The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

17 Apr 2009 at 13:54 - 696

I won't mind paying, but i'm not gunna buy them all at once, i will buy them when im pretty sure im gettin low on space. Some people say buy a character but the thing is, i don't want to make another one, i've already got a quite a few and i don't want random characters on my selection screen i'm not gunna even use.
Not to forget which characters i've given a specific item too, also several exchanges of items amongst storage to characters has to be done which takes the biscuit ...
I will buy 1 or 2 at first and see how things go......

Not much progress in which thread due to lack of things to actually talk about.

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

17 Apr 2009 at 14:04 - 697

Quote:

Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

But they didn't, that's the point, they say we are working on a huge update for April, to me at least, either you don't say anything like the case with GW2 or don't make dubious/ambiguous announcements or make one type of announcement then release something else.

Although this overdrawn thread was about boycotting the panels, it is not the whole update.

fog_of_redoubt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

17 Apr 2009 at 14:23 - 698

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmithyBen

I won't mind paying, but i'm not gunna buy them all at once, i will buy them when im pretty sure im gettin low on space. Some people say buy a character but the thing is, i don't want to make another one, i've already got a quite a few and i don't want random characters on my selection screen i'm not gunna even use.
Not to forget which characters i've given a specific item too, also several exchanges of items amongst storage to characters has to be done which takes the biscuit ...
I will buy 1 or 2 at first and see how things go......

Not much progress in which thread due to lack of things to actually talk about.

You dont buy an extra character, you buy a new Prophecies account. $9.99 at NewEgg. You get 4 new character slots for storage, a new chest with storage, and 50-100k per month with Zkey predictions. Plus with a 2nd account you can move things around easier by having both accounts logged at the same time.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

17 Apr 2009 at 14:32 - 699

It's optional.

Would I pay for extra storage? No
Would I pay for extra character slots? No

In reality you shouldn't need extra storage. There is no need to have 5 sets of armour for every char + a different weapon set to go with that armour etc

MMO players in general are very greedy. So in business point of view it makes good sense to exploit that greed.

Laziness can also make a company money, see skill packs as an example. I bought them all. It saved me time, but it came at a price.

All in all if you *need* extra storage space, either stop being greedy/hoarding or pay the price. That price is $10. You choose which.

hallomik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

The Illini Tribe

N/Mo

17 Apr 2009 at 14:34 - 700

I think the price is too high.

If I buy all 4 panes for $40 for my account with 10 characters, that works out to 8 additional storage slots per character.

For the same $40, I could buy Bio Shock & Mass Effect together or Fallout 3. Game of the Year RPG versus 8 slots per character in Guild Wars?

Plus, I'm getting more than 8 slots per character for free with the new weapon/armor pack as part of the April update.

On one level, Anet can charge whatever the wish for in-game benefits. They hold a monopoly, and as basic economics teaches us, the profit-maximizing price for an item controlled by a monopoly is much higher than that where there is free competition.

There is such a thing as an insulting price offer. If you are trying to buy a house (or an item in guild wars) and you offer a ridiculously low price to the seller, often the seller may be so turned off he will not wish to sell to that you at almost any price. The initial offer soured the deal to the point where the seller would prefer to deal with anyone else.

Similarly, if you are trying to sell something in GW, and your opening bid is ridiculously overpriced, many players who know the market will not deal with you as they will perceive you as trying to rip off unsuspecting players (or a new player who doesn't understand where the market is).

The basic point of this thread is as follows: Is the price of $10 per pane insultingly high or is it within bounds?

To me, this price is clearly high and it approaches the insultingly high level. On the other hand, as others have pointed out, it is purely optional. I will be opting out.

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

17 Apr 2009 at 14:41 - 701

"The basic point of this thread is as follows: Is the price of $10 per pane insultingly high or is it within bounds?"

It's a reasonable amount in my opinion. Those that desperate to keep all their virtual loot will pay it, those who realize they can shift some shit will not.

The price will drop eventually anyway. Maybe only a few $, but they'll still be making money from this in 6 months time.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

17 Apr 2009 at 14:53 - 702

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

MMO players in general are very greedy. So in business point of view it makes good sense to exploit that greed.

I agree partly with this, but I do feel that a more healthier (note: healthier, not healthy) way to exploit that greedy neediness would be to implement purchases that did not, be it large or small, impact your gameplay.

Unlock packs, on the other hand, are a clear-cut problem that shouldn't have come with a cost.

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

17 Apr 2009 at 15:01 - 703

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I agree partly with this, but I do feel that a more healthier (note: healthier, not healthy) way to exploit that greedy neediness would be to implement purchases that did not, be it large or small, impact your gameplay.

Unlock packs, on the other hand, are a clear-cut problem that shouldn't have come with a cost.

How would have you went about it then?

I haven't read the entire thread as most of it will be just people repeating what others have said, but the idea of in-game gold used as another form of currency has some merit. However, with money literally being given away thse days via XTH and mini-pets, the cost via in-game currency would have to be greater then paying with hard cash. This again would cause uproar among the less wealthier players wouldn't it?

Can there be a beneficial way of doing it for both Anet and the player base? I don't think there can really. I'm open to idea though.

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

17 Apr 2009 at 15:10 - 704

How do you interpret the poll? My way of looking at it is you throw out #2 because you don't know whether they will buy or not; you toss out #5 because they won't buy no matter. So it comes down to #1, #3 & #4 for your actual answer to the poll. Please elaborate any different opinions.

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

17 Apr 2009 at 15:15 - 705

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

There is no need to have 5 sets of armour for every char + a different weapon set to go with that armour etc

Hall of Monuments??

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Resilience%22

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Valor%22

while not a need, may impart benefits in GW2.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

17 Apr 2009 at 15:18 - 706

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

How would have you went about it then?

I wouldn't do it at all. But if ANet simply had to add something to the in-game store besides the chapters I'd have it be items that only concern appearance and vanity and have no impact on the game mechanics at all.

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

17 Apr 2009 at 15:28 - 707

Your idea is one I hope to never see. Even though I don't play to make money any more, adding the option to buy weapon skins from the in-game store still sends a small shiver done my old school trader back.

GW then would just be one of those sub-par Asian grind games. The initial draw to GW was the free part (pick up and play basically) and the fact it didn't have a hard currency shop.

While items don't effect the game mechanics, they do effect how people play the game.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

17 Apr 2009 at 15:30 - 708

Quote:

Originally Posted by Risky Ranger

How do you interpret the poll? My way of looking at it is you throw out #2 because you don't know whether they will buy or not; you toss out #5 because they won't buy no matter. So it comes down to #1, #3 & #4 for your actual answer to the poll. Please elaborate any different opinions.

The best way to deal with it is to ignore it, for reasons I stated earlier in the thread.

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Originally Posted by Tullzinski

Hall of Monuments??

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Resilience%22

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/%22Valor%22

while not a need, may impart benefits in GW2.

My main has added all available armors and all destroyer weapons to the Hall. I'll add one of each tormented weapon as well, if it should prove beneficial. Until I know it is, I'll hang on to my armbraces.

I salvaged all but 4 of the armors after adding them, and trashcanned each and every destroyer weapon because I find them unsightly.

See, problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I wouldn't do it at all. But if ANet simply had to add something to the in-game store besides the chapters I'd have it be items that only concern appearance and vanity and have no impact on the game mechanics at all.

Funny, I prefer it exactly the opposite way. I have no trouble at all with invisible options that only affect what I consider the meta-game (skill unlocks, storage) while I'd really resent it if people could buy bling for prestige.

Malice Black

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17 Apr 2009 at 15:35 - 709

HoM in reality is an unknown.

No one knows what benefits will come from it. It probably won't be any more then cosmetic items like weapon skins (customized to character hopefully) or maybe like the divine aura from collectors editions.

Still as Gli pointed out, these stay in the HoM even if they are sold/trashed etc afterwards.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

17 Apr 2009 at 15:53 - 710

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

Your idea is one I hope to never see. Even though I don't play to make money any more, adding the option to buy weapon skins from the in-game store still sends a small shiver done my old school trader back.

GW then would just be one of those sub-par Asian grind games. The initial draw to GW was the free part (pick up and play basically) and the fact it didn't have a hard currency shop.

While items don't effect the game mechanics, they do effect how people play the game.

I'm pretty concerned in terms of what you put more emphasis on. How do items that offer no actual change in gameplay experience worse than purchases that *do* offer change in actual gameplay?

And I find it interesting that you're saying that my proposal would put GW more on the track of those "Asian grind games" when that's pretty much what we've got right now: Don't want to grind the massive amount of skills and equipment for PvP? Buy the packs. Want to be less limited in storage? Buy the upgrades.

Offering purchases that have benefits that are completely subjective was part of what made GW so unique in the first place. Only selling exclusive in-game store items would further strengthen the philosophy that all you need is the basics, that "more monies" shouldn't make your gaming career easier.

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

17 Apr 2009 at 16:25 - 711

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I'm pretty concerned in terms of what you put more emphasis on. How do items that offer no actual change in gameplay experience worse than purchases that *do* offer change in actual gameplay?

There are no such purchases other then the mission bonus pack that change the actual gameplay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

And I find it interesting that you're saying that my proposal would put GW more on the track of those "Asian grind games" when that's pretty much what we've got right now: Don't want to grind the massive amount of skills and equipment for PvP? Buy the packs. Want to be less limited in storage? Buy the upgrades.

You don't need the titles or the unlock packs/more storage in order to fully enjoy the game theyre just luxery.

Raccoon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Me/A

17 Apr 2009 at 16:38 - 712

Do you guys want gw2 or not? You don't pay monthly fess, so time to chill out and get over it.

Want more space but don't want to pay? Time to get rid of some shit in storage. May I suggest not buying 50 armor sets?

kkthx

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

17 Apr 2009 at 16:48 - 713

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lourens

There are no such purchases other then the mission bonus pack that change the actual gameplay.

You are correct in pointing out that I'm using the phrase "changing game mechanics" incorrectly. But there are still effects, as shown below:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lourens

You don't need the titles or the unlock packs/more storage in order to fully enjoy the game theyre just luxery.

Storage I'm a bit more sympathetic with. But the unlock packs are a luxury?????

By purchasing the unlock packs, you completely eliminate the progression of requiring the best equipment and all of the skills. You do not become pigeonholed into using a few skills per profession. You are not stuck, for a period of time, with non-optimal gear. You are instantly given access to all of the skills and maxed-level equipment.

That's how PvP should be, how Guild Wars should've been from the start, how *all* games should be at the start. Instead you have to dish out some cash to see Guild Wars the "way it was meant to be".

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

17 Apr 2009 at 16:49 - 714

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy bunny

Hey!!! I just purchased an new fractions account...

ITS FACTIONS NOT FRACTIONS YOU RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING IDIOT!!! God I get sick of seeing stupid people do this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Re-reading some posts in this thread, I wonder if people are consistent with their reasoning. For example, would you avoid purchasing a sandwich or go to a restaurant, because it's actually a lot cheaper to make the sandwich or the meal yourself? In essence a lot of people are saying that it's cheaper to have char slots and accounts instead of storage panes, but aren't most of the "services" we pay for in RL about "convenience"?

It's the amount of convenience that you get with what you pay for that most have a problem with, not the fact that they are providing us with a convenience, but that the convenience provided is not the best alternative at that particular price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

How would have you went about it then?

Full PVP unlocks from release would have been the best solution. (See post above)

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/

17 Apr 2009 at 17:52 - 715

@buying skill unlocks
unlocking has no place in pvp...
pvp charas should be auto-uax

its a dumb mechanic to give incentive for pve'rs to play pvp...
except one problem...this is a team game, and experienced (uax) pvpr's won't let unexperienced (no uax) pve'rs into their groups
so they'll either stay in pve until uax...or play solo ra/random ab until uax

i know they wanted pve to be a training ground for pvp...
but it should not be required to do which holds you back from getting into pvp earlier

@buying storage
storage is a bit different...yes it can be seen as advantageous to some
but they cost us $$$$ because it costs anet $$$$
this justifies charging us instead of giving it to us for free
however i don't think the $10 pricetag is justifiable

Empress Amarox

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2008

Above you.

Mo/W

17 Apr 2009 at 18:04 - 716

You know, trying to recoup their development cost by price gouging is just stupid...

That's like a movie going over budget then them trying to get you to pay double to see it at the theater.

Quote:

ITS FACTIONS NOT FRACTIONS YOU RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING IDIOT!!! God I get sick of seeing stupid people do this...

Heyyy, calm down man... Go play some Fractions to take your mind off it.

1/2... 2/3....5/8...

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

17 Apr 2009 at 18:05 - 717

Player: WTB Storage upgrade
Anet: WTS Storage tab, 10$
Player: That's pretty expensive
Anet: Offer?
Player: 5$
Anet: nty
Player: What about meeting in the middle, 7.5$?

Empress Amarox

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2008

Above you.

Mo/W

17 Apr 2009 at 18:08 - 718

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

Player: WTB Storage upgrade
Anet: WTS Storage tab, 10$
Player: That's pretty expensive
Anet: Offer?
Player: 5$
Anet: nty
Player: gl noob

Here, I fixed it for you. :P

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

17 Apr 2009 at 19:35 - 719

How I love people whine about A while ignoring tasty, juicy B.

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

17 Apr 2009 at 19:43 - 720

@Empress Amarox
I bet you can't make a game like Guildwars right? so it seems that you are a bigger noob then a-net if you say that a-net is one.

@ Swei2stein
Who would need that much storage B offers? , when A will be enough for most players.
The option B realy confuses me you will have trouble finding your stuff

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