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Originally Posted by Apollo Smile
Looking at the video it is a lovely area they designed.
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Zaishen Menagerie - is it really just for show?
pumpkin pie
fb2000
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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
looks like Tsuimei Village to me. but yayyyyyyyyy unless its a paid content rofl. my rangers will be very happy. she's one of my 3 main, i think one of four, i always forgets i like the warrior and play it alot too.
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StormX
?___? But will you be able to charm a new pet without losing the old one?
Lonesamurai
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Originally Posted by StormX
?___? But will you be able to charm a new pet without losing the old one?
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rohara
of all the features people have been begging for for years...they choose to make a petting zoo? /facepalm
Falling Petal
It's not just level 20 pets you know. There are several tiers, the lowest level is 5.
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In game, the outpost is called "Zaishen Menagerie" and the Explorable Area is "Zaishen Menagerie Grounds". It is account-based unlocks. So pets you unlock on one PvE char will be available to your other PvE and PvP chars. Any pets unlocked on PvP chars will be available to your PvE chars as well etc etc. Everything will be explained in detail on release so I don't want to spend all kinds of time explaining the ENTIRE system. |
fb2000
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Originally Posted by rohara
of all the features people have been begging for for years...they choose to make a petting zoo? /facepalm
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1. Auction house
2. Guild Storage
3. More Storage
4. This
Am I missing something ground breaking? If not, seems as good an addition as any
Catchphrase
Its a update for those people to show off their pets in PvP. In the end the only pet archetype that matters is dire.
Bug John
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Originally Posted by Catchphrase
Its a update for those people to show off their pets in PvP. In the end the only pet archetype that matters is dire.
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mazza558
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Originally Posted by fb2000
People (as in, the mass of players, who mostly dont give a damn about Pvp) have been begging for:
1. Auction house 2. Guild Storage 3. More Storage 4. This Am I missing something ground breaking? If not, seems as good an addition as any |
Lyphen
Honestly, as nirfty as it may be, I can't understand why they decided to go with this. The Pet AI in this game is horrible, and pet builds border on useless.
Marth Reynolds
Sounds quite good imo
i wonder if it's acount wide or character wide, would be awesome to be able to trade pets between chars or simply get a full zoo for the entire family :P
ow and by the sounds of it, it also unlocks evolutions and skins while on temple of balthazar so both pvp and pve can rejoice :P
(who would want to unlock elder tough?)
i wonder if it's acount wide or character wide, would be awesome to be able to trade pets between chars or simply get a full zoo for the entire family :P
ow and by the sounds of it, it also unlocks evolutions and skins while on temple of balthazar so both pvp and pve can rejoice :P
(who would want to unlock elder tough?)
Lonesamurai
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Honestly, as nirfty as it may be, I can't understand why they decided to go with this. The Pet AI in this game is horrible, and pet builds border on useless.
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Lyphen
Eh..we're talking about the team who still hasn't removed Brutal Mauling from the game after 4 years. I don't think it's likely. But I guess we can dream.
IlikeGW
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Originally Posted by Lyphen
Honestly, as nirfty as it may be, I can't understand why they decided to go with this.
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Takeko Nakano
It's for show. Next question.
BJuno
is it account based?
Hope so, all this trouble and now ended up on character based...
Hope so, all this trouble and now ended up on character based...
Falling Petal
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Originally Posted by Marth Reynolds
i wonder if it's acount wide or character wide
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Originally Posted by BJuno
is it account based?
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BJuno
Thanks for flamming me but in case you dont understand i dont see anywhere the question has been answered.
So i asked it again if someone knew it. If the info hasnt come out, thats ok no1 knows for sure until then dont flame ppl because you like to.
So i asked it again if someone knew it. If the info hasnt come out, thats ok no1 knows for sure until then dont flame ppl because you like to.
MuleGoon
Post #46 appears to be a quote from Lindsey's talk page, which mentions it being account based.
MisterB
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Thanks for flamming me but in case you dont understand i dont see anywhere the question has been answered.
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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...2&postcount=46
where someone quoted Linsey Murdock's user page on GWW here:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...shen_Menagerie
in which she answers your question. Linsey is the game designer at ANet who probably primarily designed the Menagerie.
elk
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Originally Posted by distilledwill
It is, but from what I can gather the pets you unlock will be wandering free (well, in paddocks)in this explorable area. I assume this means you will be able to charm them.
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What I personally haven't seen clearly is that once a pet is added to the zoo, that you can exchange them (it would seem odd they you couldn't though). Everything seems to refer to adding them, unlock types and evolutions for your account and creating a "display" of animals. I'd like to think the idea you've indicated seems quite reasonable though (charming an animal of choice from the zoo).
What about evolution stages on similar pets? It seems you can unlock pets and the evolutions but if for example you've got a Moa and made it dire, then added it to the zoo and then capped another Moa and made it Elder, would you end up with 2 Moa's based on evolution type? Do you overwrite the existing Moa and just unlock the evolution for your account?
It seems more like a "lets wait and see" senerio.
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Vilaptca
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What about evolution stages on similar pets? It seems you can unlock pets and the evolutions but if for example you've got a Moa and made it dire, then added it to the zoo and then capped another Moa and made it Elder, would you end up with 2 Moa's based on evolution type? Do you overwrite the existing Moa and just unlock the evolution for your account
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If you did it the other way around though, then yeah your dire/hearty moa would overwrite your elder.
At least thats how it sounds to me from what I have read so far.
P A L P H R A M O N D
What is the use for the Menagerie for non-Rangers? I have a Ranger, but I have no interest in this if it doesn't introduce something new ... purely cosmetic gimmicks won't keep me playing a game I have been at for 4 years :-(
Aerial Assault
If what I understand is correct, and the menagerie allows you to FINALLY evolve your pet to your specification just by talking to an NPC, then huzzah. The ambiguity of pet evolutions (i.e. requiring pet do damage during its leveling -> dire pet) has always irked me, it's friggin' tedious, even having the death-level technique at your disposal. At least this way, you are finally able to choose your evolution, regardless of the method you undertook to level your pet.
P A L P H R A M O N D
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Originally Posted by Aerial Assault
If what I understand is correct, and the menagerie allows you to FINALLY evolve your pet to your specification just by talking to an NPC, then huzzah. The ambiguity of pet evolutions (i.e. requiring pet do damage during its leveling -> dire pet) has always irked me, it's friggin' tedious, even having the death-level technique at your disposal. At least this way, you are finally able to choose your evolution, regardless of the method you undertook to level your pet.
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This is interesting, and cool. However, it does absolutely nothing for the portion of players who don't play a Ranger, or an X/R. It does nothing for the Ranger who doesn't like BM, like myself. I just don't understand why Anet doesn't add genuinely new content, and instead pulls this stuff. Want to make a killing? Charge 15$ to unlock a new dungeon. 4 years into the game and they add a tiny storage upgrade? Not worth sneezing at.
Martin Firestorm
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Originally Posted by P A L P H R A M O N D
This is interesting, and cool. However, it does absolutely nothing for the portion of players who don't play a Ranger, or an X/R. It does nothing for the Ranger who doesn't like BM, like myself. I just don't understand why Anet doesn't add genuinely new content, and instead pulls this stuff. Want to make a killing? Charge 15$ to unlock a new dungeon. 4 years into the game and they add a tiny storage upgrade? Not worth sneezing at.
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Daesu
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Originally Posted by P A L P H R A M O N D
This is interesting, and cool. However, it does absolutely nothing for the portion of players who don't play a Ranger, or an X/R. It does nothing for the Ranger who doesn't like BM, like myself. I just don't understand why Anet doesn't add genuinely new content, and instead pulls this stuff. Want to make a killing? Charge 15$ to unlock a new dungeon. 4 years into the game and they add a tiny storage upgrade? Not worth sneezing at.
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The same reason why they added level 5 rainbox phoenix, when not everyone plays a Ranger or a X/R. You would think that by that time you get to rank 2, even as a ranger, you would have a level 20 pet by then. Now you have to train the rainbox phoenix from level 5 onwards and re-grind away.
By making you interested in acquiring different pets with different evolution for all your characters and all your character's heroes, they extended the "things to do in the game" by another 3 years or so.
Arduin
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Originally Posted by P A L P H R A M O N D
This is interesting, and cool. However, it does absolutely nothing for the portion of players who don't play a Ranger, or an X/R. It does nothing for the Ranger who doesn't like BM, like myself. I just don't understand why Anet doesn't add genuinely new content, and instead pulls this stuff. Want to make a killing? Charge 15$ to unlock a new dungeon. 4 years into the game and they add a tiny storage upgrade? Not worth sneezing at.
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And some kind of Pet Storage has been asked from the launch of GW. This sounds even better.
P A L P H R A M O N D
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Capturing all pets in game, levelling them all to 20 (or unlock higher Tiers with Zoins) will keep me busy for a while. Gotta catch 'm all.
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It does sound fun, but I just can't get over the fact that all this time and effort has been put into something that only caters to a few of the players.
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... all this time and effort has been put into something that only a few players can even use, period.
Charlotte the Harlot
they should remove brutal mauling when they add the menagerie.
Striken7
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Yea,i think that pets should get a buff in some way.
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Some other games maybe, but the pet system in Warhammer is a completely broken mess (All By Meself/Loner builds are the only viable ones for a reason).
My Rangers will have some fun with the Menagerie for a while.
BrettM
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Originally Posted by P A L P H R A M O N D
What is the use for the Menagerie for non-Rangers?
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I think this is something that more than "only a few" players can and will use. I know many people who have gone secondary ranger and gotten a pet at some point or another. I suspect there are many players who went /R when they were newbies just to have a pet, not realizing that the benefits would be limited (to say the least).
Gli
I'm guessing the existing pet traders will be put out to pasture? Or at least stop offering gold for pets.
Chthon
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Originally Posted by Lyphen
Honestly, as nirfty as it may be, I can't understand why they decided to go with this. The Pet AI in this game is horrible, and pet builds border on useless.
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BenjZee
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Originally Posted by Gli
I'm guessing the existing pet traders will be put out to pasture? Or at least stop offering gold for pets.
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BrettM
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Originally Posted by Gli
I'm guessing the existing pet traders will be put out to pasture? Or at least stop offering gold for pets.
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It looks like some options will open up for pets that currently have fixed levels, too, such as the Black Moa. You'll be able to get one from the Menagerie at a lower level and train it to Dire or Hearty. Or perhaps get one that is already Dire or Hearty if you already have that evolutionary tier unlocked. I'm not quite clear on whether adding a Dire or Hearty pet of one species unlocks the tier for all species.
Daesu
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Originally Posted by Chthon
There is hope that a-net will buff pets so that they're actually worth using. Please join the discussion if you have any ideas on how to do it.
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With the current state of pets, they are just not worth it compared to the power creep skills from later campaigns.
Dante the Warlord
This place really perked my interest. It will be interesting how they go about getting our pets and training them etc. Hopefully they can make some quests that will allow us to trained the pets to the desired type i.e. dire playful...etc.
Redvex
Probabily with zcoin you can buy pokeball.
New Title: Pokemon master
I love my dire black widow but pet build need a little buff
New Title: Pokemon master
I love my dire black widow
but pet build need a little buff