Does discordway needs an AP caller?

It seems like it must be unclear or there wouldn't be a ten-page debate on the effectiveness of an AP caller for this build, but I am convinced that I should be using a caller after reading the first page. My question is this: which primary profession would synergize best with this build, to fill the last four skills the player has on their bar? (I'm referring to the build on PvX wiki) It seems an assassin secondary is a good choice for the caller, so which primary profession for the player can speed things up or make this build stronger in most situations? First, the AP caller is effective.

This thread is about the ability to run discord necros and enjoy its benefits (mostly the incredible spam rate necro heroes have due to soul reaping) without having to rely on an AP caller.

I've heard, in game, several people complaining that they were bored of playing discordway with their dervishes or assassins. Their reason? Because they had to play AP caller.

I started this thread to destroy that misconception. You can still enjoy most if not all of the discord necro benefits without having to chance your playstyle. Additionally to show that the necro/rit, necro/rit, necro/monk weren't the only options for the 3 discord necros.

Answering your question, the best choice for AP caller would be Necromancer.

But, again, if you don't want to play an AP caller or dislike it, using other builds can work.

I've legendary guardians and legendary vanquishers, and many of those missions/areas were completed with 3 discords and no AP caller. I've also did them with a Necro Ap caller, and I must say differences aren't significant.

Its more a playstyle difference - with AP caller your build is much more spike oriented. With others, you have occasional spikes mixed with sustained damage.

I am returning from a very long break from this game. Lets just say there was only Tyria when I last played, so I am looking for something to help me get through the "new" PvE content without having to rely on other people too much. I have failed to complete Thunderhead after about 20 total attempts due to people making foolish mistakes, so a complete solo build seems like a great option to me. After doing a lot of reading, Discordway seems like it is the overall best for general PvE content, with few modifications needed to deal with specific encounters.

It seems like it must be unclear or there wouldn't be a ten-page debate on the effectiveness of an AP caller for this build, but I am convinced that I should be using a caller after reading the first page. My question is this: which primary profession would synergize best with this build, to fill the last four skills the player has on their bar? (I'm referring to the build on PvX wiki) It seems an assassin secondary is a good choice for the caller, so which primary profession for the player can speed things up or make this build stronger in most situations? Since Discord is so obscenely strong, pretty much any caster can run it without much issues. The discussion here is pretty much pointing out the difference between 3 sec kills and something like 5 sec kills.
So, you might as well choose a guy that seems most fun to you.
If you are willing to go with the best option though - regardless if you find it fun or not - then necro.
Always necro.
You'll have obscene energy from Soul Reaping and Curses have some of the best hexes in the game - stuff like Reckless Haste, Mark Or Pain, Barbs, Shadow Of Fear and the ability to spread one of the best conditions - Weakness.
Necro is just broken.

My personal favourite though is the ritualist. Cutest outfits and coolest casting animations.

First, the AP caller is effective.

This thread is about the ability to run discord necros and enjoy its benefits (mostly the incredible spam rate necro heroes have due to soul reaping) without having to rely on an AP caller.

I've heard, in game, several people complaining that they were bored of playing discordway with their dervishes or assassins. Their reason? Because they had to play AP caller.

I started this thread to destroy that misconception. You can still enjoy most if not all of the discord necro benefits without having to chance your playstyle. Additionally to show that the necro/rit, necro/rit, necro/monk weren't the only options for the 3 discord necros.

Answering your question, the best choice for AP caller would be Necromancer.

But, again, if you don't want to play an AP caller or dislike it, using other builds can work.

I've legendary guardians and legendary vanquishers, and many of those missions/areas were completed with 3 discords and no AP caller. I've also did them with a Necro Ap caller, and I must say differences aren't significant.

Its more a playstyle difference - with AP caller your build is much more spike oriented. With others, you have occasional spikes mixed with sustained damage. Again, the problem with triple discord with melee is that there is no synergy. You say you can attack another target while your discorders chew on another target. The problem with this thinking is doing this destroys the ability to spike.

I've already shown you that OotV is strictly superior damage when you take at least one other physical hench. So unless you enjoy playing subpar builds, you admit that the discordway you are talking about actually only has 2 discorders.

But wait, look again.

If your targets are lasting > 6 seconds, which they are if you split targets, then SS is also strictly superior damage, single target AND AoE as well. Why not take SS and not even waste attribute splitting? The answer is there is no reason NOT to. So you are down to 1 discorder, maximum.

But why even bother at this point? Your damage is already spread out due to your play style. You might as well take Xinrae or WoR on your resto. And while not strictly superior damage like OotV and SS, it prots, heals and casts in 1/4 second.

Is this starting to look familiar? Yes, it's starting to look sabway!

With the playstyle you describe, there are other elites which are strictly superior to discord. Discord reigns supreme for single target spiking. There is, at the very least, no reason for ALL your heroes to take discord. If you can at least admit this, then there has been some progress.

Snip I already know you play in a GW version where you can spike, run, spike 2s later, run, spike 2s later, run, etc, till the enemy mob is down, and in those 2s the enemy is not going to deal any damage to your party.

For those of us that play in lesser GW versions, spiking every 4s and/or shifting targets to cause more AoE damage or pressure is much more acceptable.

Also, for us that play in lesser GW versions replacing a defensive hero, with some offense, for a hero that keeps saccing health, has no direct offense, and at most bring, some not really strong, heals and some hex removal is quite different. With 6 heroes is alot easier to counter that.

Also, since when is the only options spike or sustained over time damage?

It is good to have both.