In game Twitter integration.

Haxor

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I see no reason to add this other than the big potential to just continuously report morons who keep tweeting like that. Huge waste of dev time.


That means /unsigned.

refer

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Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
Most of the new replies are all stereotypes. Twitter does have a point, it's a site that brings people together who wouldn't have normally met on other sorts of sites or online ways.
yeah people are totally blowing twitter out of proportion. at least I know your angry button now people.

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Besides, if your PC can't handle the alt+tab method you sjhould buy a new one or lower your settings.
you can buy me it, ok?

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Originally Posted by Shadowhaze View Post
I honestly wouldn't want to know every little detail of what someone is doing. Pointless and a waste of time.
Then don't read them. Or are you being forced to read them?

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Originally Posted by Shadowhaze View Post
Go out and do something in the big world of reality where things you do can actually be of some consequence
lol way to go off topic. you might as well consider all forms of electronic communication the same way then.

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Originally Posted by ZenRgy View Post
Why you would want to tell people about your exploits in the world of a game is beyond me.
what are you doing on this site then, posting that? its' the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Haxor View Post
"Killin charr lol"
"ok charr ded"
"killin next charr now"
"omg overaggro"
"omglol we killed em"

I see no reason to add this other than the big potential to just continuously report morons who keep tweeting like that. Huge waste of dev time.
That means /unsigned.
If you weren't' following anybody (which you wouldn't do) then you wouldn't see their tweets and wouldn't be able to report, and woudl probably be abusing the feature. /facepalm BTW thought this was supposed to just be a suggestion forum, not a prediction form as well... like they will really incorporate the majority of what is posted here anyways, so bringing in that realism makes no sense, you might as well /unsign everything then.

I still can't get over how much this annoys you all. What happened when you heard of IM?

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Originally Posted by Enon View Post
So far nobody has given a decent reason why Twitter has to be integrated?
This. Just because other things have it doesn't mean there's no good reason for this to not have it. That's just playing off stereotypes of those other things (which has been complained about several times). Congrats if you're not personally a stereotypical Twitter user, but most would use it in the ways people have already described.

I really see no point to adding this as it doesn't really add anything to the game. About the only thing I can think of is that it would maybe somehow be used to exploit certain PvP situations... I'm not saying it absolutely would, but that's about the only potentially useful purpose I can think of at the moment.

/not signed

Oh, and
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And I'll say it again, none of us knows what's required to make this happen...
This isn't helping your argument at all so you can probably stop mentioning it. If it takes little effort to implement it would still be an extremely low priority since it adds nothing relevant to gameplay, and if it takes a lot of work... well that should be self explanatory.

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If you weren't' following anybody (which you wouldn't do) then you wouldn't see their tweets and wouldn't be able to report, and woudl probably be abusing the feature. /facepalm
...wow that's a lot of negatives negating negatives. The point of Twittering would be having people to follow, yet the consensus here is that there would be nothing that would come out of this that would be worth following (thus making it pointless). Nobody has yet given anything that would be worth following, and until something is provided saying "nuh-uh" is not a valid counter argument.

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BTW thought this was supposed to just be a suggestion forum, not a prediction form as well... like they will really incorporate the majority of what is posted here anyways, so bringing in that realism makes no sense, you might as well /unsign everything then.
So discussing what would happen if this was integrated ceases to be discussion and instead is predicting? Then what, pray tell, is the proper type of dialogue that should take place?

Haxor

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If you weren't' following anybody (which you wouldn't do) then you wouldn't see their tweets and wouldn't be able to report, and woudl probably be abusing the feature.
My entire (joking) point was indeed that everyone should abuse the report system, so we could get rid of people like that from GW.

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/facepalm BTW thought this was supposed to just be a suggestion forum, not a prediction form as well... like they will really incorporate the majority of what is posted here anyways, so bringing in that realism makes no sense, you might as well /unsign everything then.
Let me get this straight. Me being realistic is unfair and.. unrealistic? To my understanding, this forum is to speculate about features that would be nice and useful to have. Examples are mass-identification, skill suggestions, festival suggestions or whatever.

I mean, it'd be fun for MSN or FireFox to be seamlessly integrated with GW. It's just completely useless. Admittedly I don't see the point of twitter from the getgo since most of the people actually using it are twits anyway, but there's not a reason AT ALL to integrate it. It adds nothing, yet it still subtracts things.

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I still can't get over how much this annoys you all. What happened when you heard of IM?
"Wow, cool. That'll be a lot cheaper than using the phone."

stevedallas

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/notsigned

sorry but i really dislike this idea.

Anduin

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people seem to have either too much self worth or are paranoid since strangers are really THAT dangerous after all *eye roll*.
"Too much self worth"? Isn't that the whole point of Twitter?

"Hey, look at me, look what I am doing, I am so important that I think people actually care what I am doing/thinking at every moment. Hang off of my every word."

refer

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Originally Posted by Haxor View Post
Let me get this straight. Me being realistic is unfair and.. unrealistic? To my understanding, this forum is to speculate about features that would be nice and useful to have. Examples are mass-identification, skill suggestions, festival suggestions or whatever.

I mean, it'd be fun for MSN or FireFox to be seamlessly integrated with GW. It's just completely useless.

Admittedly I don't see the point of twitter from the getgo since most of the people actually using it are twits anyway, but there's not a reason AT ALL to integrate it. It adds nothing, yet it still subtracts things.
What I mean is I usually see people agree for extravagant or long features (*cough*auction house still*cough) even outside of Guild Wars but never factor in developer time since thy like the feature enough. But when somebody disagrees with something they always have to add in that it won't happen so /unsigned as if it wasn't "do you think this should be added?" but rather "do you think it will happen?" maybe I just cant' explain this lol.

The people are twits? lol since I equate is as a status message thing, I think it would be useful to see others current twitter message that way you could see what somebody was doing in game or even not, doesn't really hurt anything. Also might be nice to tell people outside of game that you are doing ________ and maybe somebody will meet you there.

Had no idea you were joking at first lol.

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"Too much self worth"? Isn't that the whole point of Twitter?

"Hey, look at me, look what I am doing, I am so important that I think people actually care what I am doing/thinking at every moment. Hang off of my every word."
I never considered this, nor do I know many people who tweet who think that way. They just like writing what they're doing/thinking at the moment. If nobody reads, oh well. If other people find them interesting, then they they get a follower.

Targren

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No. Just... no.

Cuilan

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I think it would be an awesome alternative to a guild forum. People would be able to interact with announcements, upcoming events, and builds in game and off. It remains private (if desired) and can even bring guilds better together that are under one alliance.

Sierraa

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Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
I'm not always logged into Twitter, yes it's hard when you computer isn't very fast, and I don't always have a browser open (and I'm sure other people are similar). So you point isn't very valid.

Also, like most people here, we (likely including you) don't know how long it takes to add any feature.
It's 2009 if your computer can't handle minimizing guild wars, and opening a browser you seriously need to consider upgrading. Also, we have a pretty good idea of how long it takes anet to want to add something even if we don't know how long it actually takes.

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Originally Posted by kazi_saki View Post
BUT I'd LOVE an in-game messenger program that can connect to Yahoo Messenger, AIM, MSN, etc.

Wouldn't that be better? At least you don't have to keep GW in window mode or alt-tabbing all the time.
Xfire includes AIM now and a web browser in game. There's also a program called Digsby that can put all of your social networks/messengers in one program.

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Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
I think it would be an awesome alternative to a guild forum. People would be able to interact with announcements, upcoming events, and builds in game and off. It remains private (if desired) and can even bring guilds better together that are under one alliance.
If twitter is really the answer to your guilds success you should revamp your guild a little bit.

To be honest, I really think this is a waste of time and resources. There's other options out there and the majority of us that do use twitter, do just fine with alt-tabbing or using steam/xfire. Join a guild wars twitter group, or make one for you guild and have people check it through out the day when they're not busy on GW or something. Integrating it into the game opens up other questions like: "Why don't we add facebook/myspace/guru" into the game too.

Cuilan

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Not everyone can or is lucky enough to always upgrade right away.

Myspace and Facebook =/= Twitter.

Never said that one needed Twitter to be a successful guild. I did suggest that it would help some that would use it.

Sierraa

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Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
Not everyone can or is lucky enough to always upgrade right away.

Myspace and Facebook =/= Twitter.

Never said that one needed Twitter to be a successful guild. I did suggest that it would help some that would use it.
My 5 year old laptop with 512 RAM and a 1.2GHz processor can successfully play Guild Wars, minimize it and open firefox. If you have less specs than that your computer is ancient, and it's safe to say its probably time to upgrade.

Myspace, Facebook and Twitter are all social networks that allow you to update a status and tell the world what you're doing. Myspace and Facebook include random other applications where as Twitter is just simple updates. :P

I still fail to understand why you can't minimize guild wars, check twitter, go back to guild wars. Make the group on twitter, I'm pretty sure the majority of people aren't going to spam refresh the update page to know whats going on in the guild, they have guild chat to ask. Twitter might help, but it's not worthy of an integration into the game.

Reverend Dr

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I couldn't live without the steam overlay. I sure am glad that Anet integrated that. Hold on, this just in, apparently VALVe was the one to make the steam overlay and Anet had nothing to do with it.

If you want a twitter overlay, get twitter to make it, not Anet

EDIT: Actually, just get the steam overlay, it has a build in web browser. Direct that browser to www.twitter.com

Shadowhaze

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lol. It isn't off topic at all.

It would be a waste of dev skills, which could be put to better use to actually make/improve something that has to do with the actual game.

Seraphim Angel

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ROFL at this topic. Conan Obrien said it best they should combine you tube,Twitter, and facebook and call it Youtwitface.com

I would never use this feature and would have no desire to do so. If someone wanted to talk to me,text me send me a tweet, they can just pick up the damn phone and call me. I say people who use these kinds of feature are this generation of NERDS!!!

Cuilan

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Communicating and sharing information is apart of the game.

At one time, gaming was considered for kids and nerds.

ZenRgy

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Originally Posted by refer View Post
what are you doing on this site then, posting that? its' the same thing.
Discussing a game =/= updating a microblog with what you're doing every 15 seconds in a game.

I'm quite sure if you have anybody you know from reality following you on twitter, they wouldn't give two shits what you're doing in a game.

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[QUOTE=Operative 14;4727747]If they do this, I want them to also implement an ingame addition for MS Word, so I can type homework assignments ingame while I'm doing stuff. At least that would be productive.QUOTE]

GG

IronSheik

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lol wtf is twitter, sounds dumb as hell from the 4 posts I read.

MirkoTeran

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/notsigned. But keep pretending people care what you 'tweet'.

Nereyda Shoaal

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I don't see this happening with the current game. However we need more advanced in-game communication tool, not necessarily similar to Twitter though

Cuilan

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Originally Posted by ZenRgy View Post
Discussing a game =/= updating a microblog with what you're doing every 15 seconds in a game.

I'm quite sure if you have anybody you know from reality following you on twitter, they wouldn't give two shits what you're doing in a game.
Not everyone tweets every 15 seconds...or even every hour. The point of it isn't always what you're doing. The people that followed me who liked Guild Wars actually did like some of the stuff I tweeted. It's more than a "what are you doing site" and anyone who's been on it knows that.

gremlin

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I am starting to like the twitter idea.

The way I see gw is that sometimes you just want to chat to friends in the game and other times you want to be playing, twitter seems ideal for this.

It could well remove a lot of the public chat presently seen in the game.
If its gone from gw itself then a lot of the banning for innapropriate chat will be out of anets hands because they wont see it.

Hyper.nl

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Twitter, oh please no!

/notsigned

pamelf

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I do NOT UNDERSTAND TWITTER. Seriously. But in other news, having not read the other 4 pages I hope i'm not repeating, but the issue was raised on the first page that there's a problem with slow computers alt-tabbing out of games.

Just run the game through something like Steam and you can shift-tab in game and it opens up the Steam UI through which you can use the internet without ever having to leave the game...

Jessyi

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Shitter, like every other display-every-element-of-my-life-to-the-universe internet phenomenon needs to be dragged along with it's users into a burning pit of sulfur for eternity. Especially faecesbook.

Darkobra

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No. Remember when MySpace was the hype? Then Bebo, Facebook and whatever else people collectively gather to like sheep? Twitter is the same. 2 years from now, you'll laugh and say "Twitter? I go to Fleeble now!"

Targren

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Just run the game through something like Windows or any modern OS and you can alt-tab in game and it opens up the next open program through which you can use the internet without ever having to leave the game...
Fixed that for you.

Yichi

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no oh dear god no...

Fril Estelin

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I don't like the idea too much, but I've got nothing against it, and it's becoming popular with WoW's twitcraft:

http://www.insidesocialgames.com/200...d-of-warcraft/

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Ironically, the combination of these two time sinks might actually save some time.


EDIT: soon to your door, twitter-spam!

Ebony Shadowheart

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/not signed

What next? Integrate facebook? myspace? instant messenger friends? No thank you!

Nerel

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Originally Posted by gremlin View Post
Snip...The way I see gw is that sometimes you just want to chat to friends in the game and other times you want to be playing, twitter seems ideal for this.
Guild Wars is not an IM client...

Social Networking IS the disease that is killing the internet.

I like porn, surely I should be able to browse porn and watch pornographic videos IN Guild Wars? No?

I trade a lot and would find a calculator built into the game so damn useful...

I like... add it to the game...

No, RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO off and learn to alt-tab.

Seriously.


The only truly useful thing that could be integrated into Guild Wars is wiki access... and oh look, you can browse the wiki IN GAME via Xfire, or, you know... alt tab it.

As for the glib replies of "Oh, but you don't know how much effort it would take to have it implemented in game" clearly it would be TOO MUCH effort given the amount of shit that still needs fixing in the game, the incredibly HUGE amount of minor problems (armor clipping, floating rocks and other weirdness) that will NEVER be fixed, because they just don't have the time and resources. Oh, and skill balancing.

Really, no for GW1 and I hope the hell not for GW2.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

/unsigned

hahaha silly suggestions!

Actually, How bout this? Download Steam for free and get a free account, it has a perfect browser built in and I have never had a problem with it.
http://store.steampowered.com/

Guildwars is a game client, not an internet browser.

Pistachio

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While we're on the topic of software integration in GW, I'd like to see Ebay, and Kelly Blue Book in GW. I buy a lot of cars off Ebay, and it would be great to be able to just surf around different auctions, and check fair trade values on KBB while doing Underworld Speed Clears.

Inde

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This whole thread makes no sense. If you don't use Twitter then how is having a Twitter integration going to affect you? Why say "no" to something that is obviously popular and used? While I know the purpose of many forum users is to try to appear as "above the fad" as possible in regards to the internet, ArenaNet would be smart to do this to drive sales of their product.

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According to company officials at Dell, its presence on Twitter has earned it more than $2 million in revenue. The Dell company blog explains, “Since we started back in 2007, we’ve not only earned more than $2 million in revenue from the @delloutlet on Twitter, but we are also seeing that it’s driving interest on new products as well.”

Officials at the company say, “There is a huge flow of people comming from @delloutlet on Twitter to the main website Dell.com/outlet site, and then ultimately deciding to purchase a new system from elsewhere on Dell.com, if we factor those new system purchases that come from @Delloutlet, we’ve actually eclipsed $3 million in overall sales.”

Dell outlet now has over 600,000 followers, that respond positively to the Twitter exclusive offers and deals. The below chart shows the growth over the last 3 months when they began to introduce more exclusive offers at that time Dell had only 11,000 followers on Twitter.
This would be a great marketing tool for ArenaNet. Hundreds to thousands of players daily sending message about their game via twitter. Though I know it's really hard for most players to get out of the "me" mentality, Twitter is a great advertising tool for businesses. Viral marketing.

Bob Slydell

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I agree with Inde, however if they decided to use it AS a good marketing tool and the option to disable it for stuck-ups like myself, i better NOT see any trace of it in my game when i deselect the box that activates the twitter service in game.

Also the twitter in game = more memory usage yay!

pamelf

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Originally Posted by Targren View Post
Fixed that for you.
I personally have no problems alt-tabbing out of the game, I was simply propsing an alternative for people who seem to have such outdated systems that they are unable to do it with speed.

Operative 14

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Originally Posted by Inde View Post
This whole thread makes no sense. If you don't use Twitter then how is having a Twitter integration going to affect you? Why say "no" to something that is obviously popular and used? While I know the purpose of many forum users is to try to appear as "above the fad" as possible in regards to the internet, ArenaNet would be smart to do this to drive sales of their product.

This would be a great marketing tool for ArenaNet. Hundreds to thousands of players daily sending message about their game via twitter. Though I know it's really hard for most players to get out of the "me" mentality, Twitter is a great advertising tool for businesses. Viral marketing.
I agree with you, however I don't see how an integrated GW interface would help matters. It would make for a long and drawn out process, not only in development time, but also is legal fees and negotiations to work out an agreement between the two companies for very little return or advantage.

The only people that would benefit from this are people who already use twitter, and already play Guild Wars. The reason why it worked for Dell is because they are advertising their services on Twitter. Not because Dell is now shipping all of their systems with a Twitter button on the front of their computers, nor an integrated, dedicated twitter screen on their desktops, which is equivalent to what this thread is proposing. I doubt that anyone here would question Arenanet advertising over twitter and taking advantage of a viral marketing campaign, but the integration of an ingame interface is a completely different matter.

The reason why people dislike this idea is not because they are trying to rise above a fad, it's because it's a worthless idea. It would take a long time for them to develop, while at best it's an option that might, might save 20 seconds, at the very most, from alt+tabbing to an internet browser. And if one checks and updates their twitter so often that it becomes that much of an ordeal, then they really are a demonstration of that stereotype that the supporters of this idea have been trying to get the rest of us to disavow. And it gets back to the original argument that Guild Wars is a game. Not an IM client, nor a web browser, nor an operating system. It is development resources that could be spent far better on other things that would make GW, as a game and not an operating system, better.

Inde

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You're wrong on the legal front Operative, Twitter is very open to user created applications. ArenaNet would have no problem. Hence why World of Warcraft, Second Life, and others have it all ready and Twitter promotes these openly. Not to mention the literally hundreds of custom Twitter Apps that have been designed for every form of forum/myspace/website/blog/game/desktop/mobile and so forth that are out there.

And if you know anything about marketing you know that 20 seconds is huge. If any product makes something faster/more convenient/more accessible/more exposure then a company should jump on it. The payoff for doing something that costs nothing except man hours, but could result in sales and free advertising, is worth it.

DoomFrost

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I wouldn't mind having Twitter integrated into Guild Wars. It's not like as soon as Arena Net integrates it you're going to be bombarded by a million twitter posts related to Guild Wars. You only receive updates from the people your following and that's if you have a Twitter account.