I have been a long time player since the first public beta of guild wars... I am starting not to like what I've seen the developers do to the economy of this game. With Xunlai Tourney House and The traveler Ive seen many players own over 10 accounts for the the purpose of reaping the free money benefits provided by ArenaNet. This makes many areas of the game such as farming pointless to play when you can just log on and reap the wealth that would take a player with a single account much effort to obtain. My questions for the developers and community is:
How is buying accounts different from purchasing game currency from online vendors?
If its not ok, for them because it inflates the economy making effort yield less value for players that play the game. As ArenaNet used to stated years ago.
What makes it ok for you the developers to do this and not them? (aside from copyright infringement)
Are updates to the game going to be similar in nature?
And for the community I interested in your comments. please be civil. My main question being do you think this should continue?
Obtaining anything in the game should be how you play... not how much cash you have to blow on accounts...
ArenaNet has lost focus on creating a great game and is now focused on generating profits.
Wealth == How many accounts you own. Should this continue?
Mireles
StormDragonZ
I have one account. I will probably never understand why anyone needs to buy more than one unless you have multiple people playing on one computer.
Jessyi
I like money.
If more accounts = more money,
I like more accounts.
If more accounts = more money,
I like more accounts.
Tramp
We need some Obama style justice around here and only make it so people have 1 account... 2 accounts max if they can prove a need. Just my opinon.
nkuvu
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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
I have one account. I will probably never understand why anyone needs to buy more than one unless you have multiple people playing on one computer.
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Originally Posted by Mireles
If its not ok, for them because it inflates the economy making effort yield less value for players that play the game. As ArenaNet used to stated years ago.
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And before you say "yes, but you have to get a character to all of those spots," look at where Nicholas has been showing up. You'd have to bring characters to lots of places in lots of campaigns to be able to get the gifts from Nicholas every week.
Karate Jesus
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Originally Posted by Tramp
We need some Obama style justice around here and only make it so people have 1 account... 2 accounts max if they can prove a need. Just my opinon.
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God I love living in a socio-democratic system. It turns me on a little.
Oh......back on topic. No....this should stay the same. Who cares if they earn more money than you from the XTH? You can just as easily go and buy more campaigns and do the same thing.....that is, if they even fix the XTH.
Trub
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Vilaptca
Except for the Xunlai Tournament House, there really isn't a huge benefit for having multiple accounts.
It takes a lot more time and effort to get everything for Nicholas and then get all your accounts there. You'd also need all 3 campaigns and EotN to make sure you can get to Nicholas every week, for each account. Nobody in their right mind would spend that much money to get travelers gifts each week. They sell for like 5k each and there are only two items in there that are worth anything to make more money back.
Many people have had multiple accounts since Prophecies because of how limited we were on character slots. The reason you see so many people with multiple accounts now is because of the Xunlai Tournament House. Which honestly doesn't matter much anymore, they've taken it down and haven't said when its coming back. With so few developers working on GW1, I can't imagine it coming back anytime soon.
I think you're a year too late on worrying about multiple accounts and the Xunlai Tournament House. And you have nothing to worry about with the Traveler gifts.
It takes a lot more time and effort to get everything for Nicholas and then get all your accounts there. You'd also need all 3 campaigns and EotN to make sure you can get to Nicholas every week, for each account. Nobody in their right mind would spend that much money to get travelers gifts each week. They sell for like 5k each and there are only two items in there that are worth anything to make more money back.
Many people have had multiple accounts since Prophecies because of how limited we were on character slots. The reason you see so many people with multiple accounts now is because of the Xunlai Tournament House. Which honestly doesn't matter much anymore, they've taken it down and haven't said when its coming back. With so few developers working on GW1, I can't imagine it coming back anytime soon.
I think you're a year too late on worrying about multiple accounts and the Xunlai Tournament House. And you have nothing to worry about with the Traveler gifts.
slowerpoke
A way for ANet to sell more game copies.
I wouldnt like to think the XTH was designed with that in mind, but who knows.
I wouldnt like to think the XTH was designed with that in mind, but who knows.
Arduin
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Originally Posted by Mireles
Obtaining anything in the game should be how you play... not how much cash you have to blow on accounts...
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Other than that, I really don't care if player X got 10 FoW armors on each of his characters, I even don't care if prices of stuff gets 'inflated', because anything other than 1k armor is added fluff.
Mireles
Yea Trub, my point is that doesn't make for a good game... it just turns into whos willing to shell out more dollars for in game currency which i find ridiculous. I was under the impression when you buy a game it was to play it... not to blow money to feel good about yourself online.... thats what beer is for
Puebert
If you need more accounts to make massive amounts of money, you're doing it wrong.
Trub
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Yea Trub, my point is that doesn't make for a good game... it just turns into whos willing to shell out more dollars for in game currency which i find ridiculous. I was under the impression when you buy a game it was to play it... not to blow money to feel good about yourself online.... thats what beer is for
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But bear in mind:
1.) Alot of players with multiple accounts, have had them waaaaay before addition slots were made available. (me included)
2.) Some players have multiple guilds they PvP/PvE with...so for more 'fun' with their GvG buddies, they created more accounts.
3.) It's their money, and I don't sweat it.
4.) ANet may acually use those liquid funds to create one helava kick arse game! (GW2)
Mireles
good point trub, i just they don't turn it into a spending contest too.
The Air Revenger
i have 2 accounts the second one is for pre-searing, I do like the extra bit of money i get from XTH.
Anet wont do anything to say you can only have 1 account because there making money off it. And as long as Anet makes money Anet is happy
Anet wont do anything to say you can only have 1 account because there making money off it. And as long as Anet makes money Anet is happy
Ghost Omel
i hqave a very important question....WHY DO YOU CARE.. Dont give me this economy business. How does it affect you as a gamer.. Are you jelaous? Are you in need of a flashy sword that is no different than a short sword? Or is it the faqct that your pricey items all of the sudden lost their value...
How does the guy next to you with 10 accounts affect how you play in your Instance?
All Anet has added is XTH for those players that like to PREDCIT the outcome of the matches + get a small reward for it. Is it encauraging buying more accounts? No, it just happened that players figured it out and anet cant do anythign to prevent that + extra money never hurts.
I dont mean to be rude, but you sound like a jealous person who doesnt have 100k in the bank
By the way
1 account for last 39 month and only the basik slots that came wiht every chapter.. Not filthy rich but constantly have at least 50k on me -_- no i am not one of the multi account people because i dont care for moneyz and others.. neither should you!
How does the guy next to you with 10 accounts affect how you play in your Instance?
All Anet has added is XTH for those players that like to PREDCIT the outcome of the matches + get a small reward for it. Is it encauraging buying more accounts? No, it just happened that players figured it out and anet cant do anythign to prevent that + extra money never hurts.
I dont mean to be rude, but you sound like a jealous person who doesnt have 100k in the bank
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1 account for last 39 month and only the basik slots that came wiht every chapter.. Not filthy rich but constantly have at least 50k on me -_- no i am not one of the multi account people because i dont care for moneyz and others.. neither should you!
Ugh
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Originally Posted by Jessyi
I like money.
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If more accounts = less real money,
I don't like more accounts.
Personally, I don't like spending my hard-earned real money on fake money. But if others are willing, good for them.
ajc2123
I have two from way back when we couldn't buy character slots.
If your willing to spend that much money, then yes, I don't see why not. I only use Tourny points on one account anyways. I DO do the nicholas thing whenever but, I use all those items so I'm not making money off of them.
If your willing to spend that much money, then yes, I don't see why not. I only use Tourny points on one account anyways. I DO do the nicholas thing whenever but, I use all those items so I'm not making money off of them.
Trub
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Originally Posted by Mireles
good point trub, i just they don't turn it into a spending contest too.
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Can't tolerate them most of the time...but dang fun to haggle with!
Mireles
I think i remember reading in the EULA back in the day one account per person.... but its been revised since then and i can't find it anymore.
Chieftain Heavyhand
I have 2 accounts.
Mostly bought the second because a character slot is 10 bucks the trilogy was selling for 30.
Also helped to transfer hunter gifts, dye and event goodies out of pre so my permapre can stay there.
But mostly for extra storage, 30 bucks for 5 storage slots and I think 8 character slots, which would be like 120 bucks otherwise. May still buy the 4 addition storage slots on my main.
Mostly bought the second because a character slot is 10 bucks the trilogy was selling for 30.
Also helped to transfer hunter gifts, dye and event goodies out of pre so my permapre can stay there.
But mostly for extra storage, 30 bucks for 5 storage slots and I think 8 character slots, which would be like 120 bucks otherwise. May still buy the 4 addition storage slots on my main.
Racthoh
If wealth actually mattered ingame I'd care. But it doesn't, so meh.
Ghost Omel
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Originally Posted by Mireles
I think i remember reading in the EULA back in the day one account per person.... but its been revised since then and i can't find it anymore.
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Bug John
more money for anet = more money for GW2 = happy me
more seriously, if in game money matters that much to you, I think there's definitely something weird with you
incredibly rich people used other tricks to get that much money, I don't see multiple accounts as a real problem
nearly nothing is out of reach for a somewhat dedicated player nowadays, in game money is no big deal imo
more seriously, if in game money matters that much to you, I think there's definitely something weird with you
incredibly rich people used other tricks to get that much money, I don't see multiple accounts as a real problem
nearly nothing is out of reach for a somewhat dedicated player nowadays, in game money is no big deal imo
Mireles
I didnt read it in the box, it was the one when i signed up for beta in game online.... they prob changed it since then.
dilan155
two things, 1st does it really matter, you cant buy skill, not skills but skill, so it really doesn't matter if they are wealthier than you. and second the huge benefit from multiple accounts was tournament house and its been down for a while now.
Ghost Omel
You are going back 4 years back ?...
If its not in factions then Money has nothign to do wiht this....
See how you kinda triped on your own steps there.. XTH wasnt introduced in Factions so if its in Factions EULA then well Anet does not promote it.
If its not in factions then Money has nothign to do wiht this....
See how you kinda triped on your own steps there.. XTH wasnt introduced in Factions so if its in Factions EULA then well Anet does not promote it.
Rugar
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Originally Posted by Mireles
I didnt read it in the box, it was the one when i signed up for beta in game online.... they prob changed it since then.
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Mireles
that was my point, the EULA been revised 4 times since then... they prob took that part out so they could sell more accounts... that rule used to be in place so when they banned a person they couldn't return to guild wars on another account. and XTH wasn't a issue until z-keys came out little over a year ago.
novawhiz
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We need some Obama style justice around here and only make it so people have 1 account... 2 accounts max if they can prove a need. Just my opinon.
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Pugs Not Drugs
Normally, I would agree with you. But, in Guild Wars you can get 2 sets of max armor, all the weapon sets you need, and a good number of skills for under 50k. Everything else is just epeen. So i just think your jelous.
Gift3d
more accounts = more money for players and more money for anet
the majority of players and anet profit from this in one way or another
the poor jealous players are the only ones who qq and their opinions will continue to have no impact
SORREH.
the majority of players and anet profit from this in one way or another
the poor jealous players are the only ones who qq and their opinions will continue to have no impact
SORREH.
Ceifador
People use their money like they want. If they wanna spend hundreds of dollars to buy lots of accounts it is their problem, I see no problem if they can get more money this way, they paid for that so they have the rights to have this "advantage" over the other players.
BTW this is a great source of money to Anet, so don't think they will change this, it is easier for them to create more beneffits for people with multiple accounts.
BTW this is a great source of money to Anet, so don't think they will change this, it is easier for them to create more beneffits for people with multiple accounts.
Mireles
jealous of what, people's ability to throw there money into a game... anyone can swipe a credit card... its just most of us choose not too becasue games are for playing not wasting money. people just might as well post there bank account balances. I am just asking for a level playing field for all. That used to be what this game was about... skill.. not how much time you spend playing or how much your willing to spend
upier
Well, the XTH gives me free money each month. That means that armour, skills and most importantly, festival tickets are actually CHEAPER these days than they used to be.
Tenebrae
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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
I have one account. I will probably never understand why anyone needs to buy more than one unless you have multiple people playing on one computer.
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HawkofStorms
I have one account.
I have more money then 90% of those idiots buying ten accounts (who are also out several hundred dollars in real life for no reason after the XTH has been suspended, /point /laugh).
It is our fault for buying z-keys at such overly inflated prices anyways. The supply has already started to outstrip demand, as key prices were dropping a lot before they got rid of the XTH. It won't last, same with people selling Nicholas gifts at high prices.
I have more money then 90% of those idiots buying ten accounts (who are also out several hundred dollars in real life for no reason after the XTH has been suspended, /point /laugh).
It is our fault for buying z-keys at such overly inflated prices anyways. The supply has already started to outstrip demand, as key prices were dropping a lot before they got rid of the XTH. It won't last, same with people selling Nicholas gifts at high prices.
Kuroshi
Content like this sells more games/account keys...A corporation in it for the money would never remove things that make them money, regardless how people feel about it.
slowerpoke
why buy accounts when you can 'borrow' them from friends who quit playing long ago 
Highlander Of Alba
I have 3 only
the first 2 was when travel / favor/friends I had 1 on US ad 1 on Euro
This in turn lead me have all campaigns on each .then latley when the 4 was selling at 24.99 I purchased another..
When slots became available I made a Male and a Female of each class
Over the 4 years this amounted to very litttle as no fees to play.
So 4 years very little outlay and I think in real money terms its Nil for what I have out of it.
the first 2 was when travel / favor/friends I had 1 on US ad 1 on Euro
This in turn lead me have all campaigns on each .then latley when the 4 was selling at 24.99 I purchased another..
When slots became available I made a Male and a Female of each class
Over the 4 years this amounted to very litttle as no fees to play.
So 4 years very little outlay and I think in real money terms its Nil for what I have out of it.