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Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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13 Aug 2009 at 14:37 - 521

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

I admit they are crap recordings, especially as Spacefreak (because it was 9 hours of shows) tried to butcher out the music (shame, great tunes played too, especially by Martin and Regina) but they will be up once we finish our website updates and get the event page done and up finally

Be sure to PM me when that gets up. I'm really wanting to listen. Butchered out music or not.

But on topic, they could have done the info and announcement better, but what is done is done. And if Anet wanted to increase the Live Team (which they are continue to do) to the point of being able to add new areas or even harder to do, new expansions (let's just leave out the idea of campaigns, no need for new professions), then either it would take a bit off of GW2, or cost them much more. Yes you need to spend money to stimulate the economy, but that phrase, right now, is going to the buyers. I.e., people need to buy more, not pay employees more, to stimulate the economy more.

If there is ever an intention to add more content to GW1, then it would/should be done after GW2's initial release. Say, after all the concept art is done, the artists work for the Live Team for a new EN-sized expansion/update. Whether they do or don't add new content to GW1 at that point, though, wouldn't matter that much.

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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13 Aug 2009 at 14:38 - 522

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

Be sure to PM me when that gets up. I'm really wanting to listen. Butchered out music or not.

The music was nice too! I liked both sets of our CMs and would like it only for that. Linsey's interview was the climax ofc, she has a very sweet voice

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If there is ever an intention to add more content to GW1, then it would/should be done after GW2's initial release. Say, after all the concept art is done, the artists work for the Live Team for a new EN-sized expansion/update. Whether they do or don't add new content to GW1 at that point, though, wouldn't matter that much.

Such a decision would have been made one or two years ago, because of all the planning required (budget, work, recruitment, etc.). The Live Team expansion is the result of their actual plans, so don't expect more, given that in a years time (the time it'd take to action plans decided now) there'll be more info on GW2, so less incentive to discover new stuff in GW1.

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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13 Aug 2009 at 14:54 - 523

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Such a decision would have been made one or two years ago, because of all the planning required (budget, work, recruitment, etc.). The Live Team expansion is the result of their actual plans, so don't expect more, given that in a years time (the time it'd take to action plans decided now) there'll be more info on GW2, so less incentive to discover new stuff in GW1.

I only said that the Live Team is still expanding because Linsey has said (multiple times) that they will hire a writer. And unless they found one without ever putting up applications, they don't have that new writer, just a new designer.

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

13 Aug 2009 at 15:04 - 524

Would like a cookie rather then everything is ok and going as planned

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

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13 Aug 2009 at 15:05 - 525

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Originally Posted by Test Me

Y
The reason why this community is stuck here and keep waiting is just because we don't enjoy playing WoW mechanics-like games. But if anyone would release a GW like game... we would all be gone in less than a sec.

I fit into this description. If some indie-shop were to put out a blatant GW clone and charge $15/mo for it, I'd be done with GW. I play because I like the GW style, not because it's "free."

I voted #1 because I do beleive they are handling it badly; not because they are taking so long with information (I love how people think "innovative" features will appear like magic in competing projects though. Who needs programmers?), but because they all but abandoned a good game for, based on what little information they leaked, a not-so-good game that may never see the light of day.

Ravious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Servants of Fortuna

N/Mo

13 Aug 2009 at 15:07 - 526

What's a GW-like game? Cus, DDO comes awfully close without the good PvP... I don't feel like any other MMO has PvP as good as GW.

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

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13 Aug 2009 at 15:08 - 527

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Originally Posted by Targren

(I love how people think "innovative" features will appear like magic in competing projects though. Who needs programmers?)

You would be surprised at the turn-around time between design and implementation at a company like Blizzard. And trust me, the games industry is ALL about stealing ideas.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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13 Aug 2009 at 15:55 - 528

Quote:

Originally Posted by Targren

I fit into this description. If some indie-shop were to put out a blatant GW clone and charge $15/mo for it, I'd be done with GW. I play because I like the GW style, not because it's "free."

I believe you are in the minority.

I wouldn't pay monthly for Guild Wars, it's a psychological thing. I hate feeling that I have to play, or I'm wasting money. Guild Wars is the perfect casual MMORPG for me.

As long as GW2 remains free to play, and is casual friendly I could care less about level cap or lack of henchies/heroes. It's all about how these things are implemented, of course, I'm not going to pay for a grind-heavy WoW clone (does anybody expect it to be?)

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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13 Aug 2009 at 16:22 - 529

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR

You would be surprised at the turn-around time between design and implementation at a company like Blizzard. And trust me, the games industry is ALL about stealing ideas.

Agreed. 5 bucks says that WoW will implement wings and steal Aion's main gimmick if Aion becomes a hit.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

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13 Aug 2009 at 16:25 - 530

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Agreed. 5 bucks says that WoW will implement wings and steal Aion's main gimmick if Aion becomes a hit.

and piss of players more than they have with lvl 20 5 gold mounts

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bellevue, WA

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13 Aug 2009 at 16:38 - 531

They have already had flying mounts for a few years, which are the same thing, just a different graphic.

I wonder if GW2 will have flying of any sort though, seems to be in the in thing these days.

Aljasha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

13 Aug 2009 at 16:40 - 532

i would pay for a perfect gw clone with excellent support and monthly content updates. if i am not confident with the changes being made, i just cancel my subsciption and the devs will notice it.

don't get me wrong. i don't blame anet for reducing the support in any way, since i know the reasons and prefer a new product with all-new features over an old one which has a limited potential.

i am expecting anet to learn from their past mistakes, because they told us that they made many and that they've learned - nothing more and nothing less.

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

14 Aug 2009 at 22:27 - 533

on the subject of ncsoft and news, i see AION has its own blog: http://eu.aiononline.com/uk/community/blog/?src=hdr

and a list of twitter accounts from dev members:
http://eu.aiononline.com/uk/community/twitter/?src=hdr

Curseman

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

15 Aug 2009 at 06:17 - 534

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

and piss of players more than they have with lvl 20 5 gold mounts

What was the reasoning behind this anyway? Is it just because lower level players don't "deserve" to have them? Because if so, that's hilarious.

Lonesamurai

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15 Aug 2009 at 13:16 - 535

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Originally Posted by Curseman

What was the reasoning behind this anyway? Is it just because lower level players don't "deserve" to have them? Because if so, that's hilarious.

I think its a good addition, however personally I think its a run up to whatever they add in the new Cataclysm expansion

Curseman

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

15 Aug 2009 at 18:37 - 536

I meant what was the reasoning behind people getting mad about it - it sounds fine to me - but I've been off topic for long enough by now.

Lonesamurai

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15 Aug 2009 at 18:44 - 537

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Originally Posted by Curseman

I meant what was the reasoning behind people getting mad about it - it sounds fine to me - but I've been off topic for long enough by now.

Basically because for all those that ground up the cash to buy them and had to wait longer got pissy that new people can get them earlier and for cheaper

However there are different levels of mounts with faster running speeds now as you get higher in level, so it does balance out

poisonwell

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

15 Aug 2009 at 20:17 - 538

Hi there Regina.

Did you realize about How Many player are just waiting.. not even see somes screen videos or something about GW2, Did you realize all the waiting time we has been for this.. Ok now i just want to you ask you something..

We already know that your team or Anet goin to give more information before the End of the year.. if you know is there still to much for us.. DiD you see how many threads are in all forums about this.. not even just here in every fan web sites in all the world..

Ok my petition is if its possible you only can give to Your Fans, cuz we are you fans you are the only way we have..

Can you plz tell us what is the % of GW2 has been done till now ? Just a %

Thank you and so sorry to have to write this but your fans are calling you...

Edit : Sorry for my bad english!

Legendm

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

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15 Aug 2009 at 20:19 - 539

^
Your thread got deleted for a reason. Don't use this thread as an excuse to retype the entire thing.

Edit: Actually while I'm at it.

I typed this bit up earlier, but the thread got closed before I could submit it. (Thank you, history tab)

I'm doing this for your own good.

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Originally Posted by poisonwell

Hi there Regina.

You realize that there is a thing called a PM or personal message.

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Did you realize about How Many player are just waiting.. not even see somes screen videos or something about GW2, Did you realize all the waiting time we has been for this.. Ok now i just want to you ask you something..

Because we have nothing better to do? Sorry bub, while I would like to see some GW2 stuff its just not a priority.

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We already know that your team or Anet goin to give more information before the End of the year..

Then why ask? That's like saying, I can't wait until my birthday, can I just have my present now.

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if you know is there still to much for us.. DiD you see how many threads are in all forums about this.. not even just here in every fan web sites in all the world..

Just because a bunch of people bitch and moan for something doesn't mean they should get it. That would make us a bunch of spoiled brats.

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Ok my petition is if its possible you only can give to Your Fans, cuz we are you fans you are the only way we have..

That's not how a petition works. As for the fan thing, what?

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Can you plz tell us what is the % of GW2 has been done till now ? Just a %

While while that question is answerable, it would be a very rough estimate in which you're not really going to learn much seeings how the game, while playable (according to them) needs a lot more work seeings how it won't come out for at least 2 years.

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Thank you and so sorry to have to write this but your fans are calling you...

*sigh*

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Edit : Sorry for my bad english!

Eh.

DarkRazzie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2009

Lost in Tyria

MAGE

W/Mo

15 Aug 2009 at 20:53 - 540

@ Legendm - agreed

Ya know, a year ago I felt the same way about this long wait for the game, but then I realized something: GW2 isn't the only game that I've been waiting a long time for. And besides, if they're taking this long because they want to make sure it's right, then more power to 'em... I'll wait for "awesome" rather than settle for "okay". People have debated the reasons why ANet/NCSoft have withheld information about GW2 since the last tidbit of info hit the wiki a year ago. Who cares why? Yes, I can't wait for it to come out... I'm ready to preorder my copy as soon as it is possible. But, I can wait. Maybe because I'm old, cranky, and pokey. Nevertheless, if they had to adjust things because of other projects, or didn't want to interfere with the release of Aion, that is just business folks. Thats how it works. It doesn't mean they're not working any less on GW2... timing is everything in gaming. I am a systems administrator in a huge company, and work beside programmers daily. These things take time.... when one little bug comes up, its anywhere from a few nights to a few weeks of nights searching through code to see whats causing the bug.

At any rate, people just need to be patient. And I know all the young folks have trouble with that word, but trust me, patience does pay off. Besides, it looks to me like some things are starting to happen. I have the feeling that after the release of Aion, we'll start to see some GW2 information either trickle in, or barge in on us. My gold's on PAX being the first of it... but who knows. You can never tell with these things.

Anyway, to get back on TOPIC here: I chose the 3rd: "The lack of information is understandable, and I think ArenaNet is handling the situation well".
Although, I think they're "handling the situation" as best they can considering the timing necessary for multiple releases from one company. I would agree that they could handle it somewhat better, but I'm not so frazzled about it as others seem to be. It will get here, and we'll still be here. Then these threads will fall into oblivion, replaced by new discussions about what we've seen.

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bellevue, WA

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15 Aug 2009 at 21:43 - 541

Another teaser message appeared on ArenaNet's twitter yesterday:

http://twitter.com/arenanet

With so many "soon" type messages coming out these days, info is probably imminent.

Tr0n

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Maribor, Slovenia

Strah in Trepet

15 Aug 2009 at 22:49 - 542

Yeah, it's either GamesCom or PAX at this point.

Anyone know what background that is?

http://img263.yfrog.com/img263/135/tbe.jpg

Looks like a Charr maybe?

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

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15 Aug 2009 at 22:53 - 543

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tr0n

Yeah, it's either GamesCom or PAX at this point.

Neitherso far, both are before Aion release

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

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15 Aug 2009 at 22:53 - 544

I thought info and alot more was imminent in 2008 when we were told to expect screenshots, vids, info, a new site, etc...

Without an official date, don't expect anything. And even with Martin's word of "before the end of the year" its not official, because it wasn't on the site, and because that has been Anet's cop-out in the past, take any "info will be soon" with a grain of salt IMO.

If they were going to DEFINITELY give us info as soon as some people anticipate, I would think anet would want fans and gaming communities to know when and where. The fact that these are still unknown means don't expect much or in the immediate future.

Just like pretty much all of GW2 being an unknown means don't inflate your expectations.

Lonesamurai

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

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15 Aug 2009 at 22:58 - 545

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoyon456

I thought info and alot more was imminent in 2008 when we were told to expect screenshots, vids, info, a new site, etc...

Without an official date, don't expect anything. And even with Martin's word of "before the end of the year" its not official, because it wasn't on the site, and because that has been Anet's cop-out in the past, take any "info will be soon" with a grain of salt IMO.

If they were going to DEFINITELY give us info as soon as some people anticipate, I would think anet would want fans and gaming communities to know when and where. The fact that these are still unknown means don't expect much or in the immediate future.

Just like pretty much all of GW2 being an unknown means don't inflate your expectations.

If the Community Manager says it its official (of course that happened last year from Gaile, but she did apologize for being wrong)

Tr0n

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Maribor, Slovenia

Strah in Trepet

15 Aug 2009 at 22:58 - 546

My hopes and expectations are always "up" and "high". This hasn't changed since the last 2-3 years.

Oh and Diablo 3 might be playable at GamesCom.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/49...le-At-GamesCom

Diablo 3 vs. Guild Wars 2 anyone?

Brett Kuntz

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

15 Aug 2009 at 23:14 - 547

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Originally Posted by Tr0n

Diablo 3 vs. Guild Wars 2 anyone?

More like Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2. IMO that is the direction online "RPG" style games are headed, not MMO style time-sink addictive grind fests we've had in the past.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

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Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

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15 Aug 2009 at 23:26 - 548

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuntz

More like Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2.

Bingo, they are different genre's so no reason not to go for both if you like both series

Ravious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Servants of Fortuna

N/Mo

15 Aug 2009 at 23:58 - 549

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuntz

More like Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2.

Ding, ding, ding!

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

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16 Aug 2009 at 00:25 - 550

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Originally Posted by Kuntz

More like Diablo 3 and Guild Wars 2.

Or perhaps just D3? Seriously I do not understand why people are already hyped up on the GW2 train when you have seen nothing of the game? I'm not saying I'm a Blizzard/Diablo maniac, but at least I've seen enough of D3 to feel that it would be a game Id enjoy playing and appeals to me.

The reason this thread exists is because there is no solid info about GW2 to make an informed opinion about the game. Saying either you definitely will or will not buy it at this point is premature and completely naive or completely cynical.

Lonesamurai

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16 Aug 2009 at 00:30 - 551

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoyon456

Or perhaps just D3? Seriously I do not understand why people are already hyped up on the GW2 train when you have seen nothing of the game? I'm not saying I'm a Blizzard/Diablo maniac, but at least I've seen enough of D3 to feel that it would be a game Id enjoy playing and appeals to me.

The reason this thread exists is because there is no solid info about GW2 to make an informed opinion about the game. Saying either you definitely will or will not buy it at this point is premature and completely naive or completely cynical.

and what we're saying is that they won't even be relased around the same time, I'd guess 6 months between them both being released with D3 first,so no reason to compare them anyway

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

16 Aug 2009 at 00:32 - 552

the expectation is news at pax (possibly gamescom next week)
if not by then, some time before the end of the year (according to cr martin)
and if none of those, well gg.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

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Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

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16 Aug 2009 at 00:38 - 553

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowerpoke

the expectation is news at pax (possibly gamescom next week)
if not by then, some time before the end of the year (according to cr martin)
and if none of those, well gg.

hell, if none of those even I'll be giving up on it and walking away

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

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16 Aug 2009 at 00:47 - 554

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

and what we're saying is that they won't even be relased around the same time, I'd guess 6 months between them both being released with D3 first,so no reason to compare them anyway

1. No, you said they were of different genres and it was also said neither will be the giant time-sink grindfest of WoW-type MMO's, so that theoretically you could play both.

2. You don't know when D3 will be released, and you have a very wide range for when GW2 will be. I understand you made it clear it was a "guess" but even guesses are based on something. You pulled that out of the air.

3. Sure they could be compared, but in a comparison you need 2 things at least, and frankly GW2 is a giant "?" Ever done a comparison with a "?" Probably a good way to waste a day, but utterly pointless.

Lonesamurai

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

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16 Aug 2009 at 01:00 - 555

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoyon456

1. No, you said they were of different genres and it was also said neither will be the giant time-sink grindfest of WoW-type MMO's, so that theoretically you could play both.

2. You don't know when D3 will be released, and you have a very wide range for when GW2 will be. I understand you made it clear it was a "guess" but even guesses are based on something. You pulled that out of the air.

3. Sure they could be compared, but in a comparison you need 2 things at least, and frankly GW2 is a giant "?" Ever done a comparison with a "?" Probably a good way to waste a day, but utterly pointless.

Your right, D3's release date is certainly still TBA, however it is also at least 6 months closer to release, maybe a year ahead of GW2 by the amount thats been released for it and it was first shown at Blizzcon last year and this years is nearly here now, so thats a year of info so far

By virtue of that I reckon D3 will be with us around Summer/Q3 next year and betas of GW2 around the same time

Besides, if making a comparison surely comparing GW1 with D3 would make more sense as D3 I believe is closer to instanced areas,even in co-op play rather than the open world/persistence of GW2

Brett Kuntz

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

16 Aug 2009 at 03:00 - 556

Diablo isn't a game you play for 4 years, or even 1 year. It's a game you play through once, then you go off and do something else in another game, then you come back to Diablo, then you go off again, and then back to Diablo. No one who played Diablo 1 or 2 actually played it exclusively for years and years, however, what people did do, was play it a lot over years and years in small chunks, along with many other games. Diablo is a great escape from the mass of other games and genres out there, but it's never been a dedication for anyone except a handful of people I'll label as 'strange'.

It's easier to dedicate yourself to the "3D Diablo" called Guild Wars (2) because it offers everything Diablo does, plus a whole lot more. And it has PvP, which for some people, is all they want to begin with. Diablo? No PvP. You can deal damage to other players, but that isn't PvP, it's not even PKing really...

Personally, I'll likely have plenty of time for D3, GW2, and a bunch of FPS's on top of that as well.

Giga_Gaia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Travelling around Tyria, Cantha, and Elona

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16 Aug 2009 at 03:30 - 557

You know, even with the CM's saying "more info will be out before the end of the year", I still find that hard to believe. I've never been so cynical towards a dev's word before, but given Anet's track record, it's not surprising is it. And like others have said, as long as there is no official date, then "very soon" is just a vague concept of time that means nothing. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me...

BTW, even though I voted for #2, I'd think that if I were to vote again, I'd probably go for #1 this time. And we all know why that is.

Brett Kuntz

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

16 Aug 2009 at 03:48 - 558

If they say there will be info before the end of the year, then there will be info before the end of the year. I don't think you'll have to wait that long though. Gameconn and PAX are upon us and it'd be very weird for them to skip over them without any info.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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16 Aug 2009 at 04:34 - 559

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giga_Gaia

You know, even with the CM's saying "more info will be out before the end of the year", I still find that hard to believe. I've never been so cynical towards a dev's word before, but given Anet's track record, it's not surprising is it. And like others have said, as long as there is no official date, then "very soon" is just a vague concept of time that means nothing. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me...

BTW, even though I voted for #2, I'd think that if I were to vote again, I'd probably go for #1 this time. And we all know why that is.

To be fair, the CM that told us most of the vague crud is no longer a CM... perhaps for a reason.

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

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16 Aug 2009 at 05:10 - 560

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuntz

If they say there will be info before the end of the year, then there will be info before the end of the year.

Riiiiiight, because there's currently a GW2 website, beta, screenshots, etc... like Gaile said last year? I hate to beat the dead horse but apparently some people still aren't getting the fact that Anet has already said there will be GW2 stuff once. Like the other poster said, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and shame on me.

I don't need to go over everything Anet has said over the years that didn't come to be, but last year Gaile's thing was specific to GW2 and she made a very clear and bold statement. You can say it was because they changed their minds, FINE, but don't tell me they will definitely not do the same thing again.

As to your earlier post about GW2 being a 3D D3 or along those lines...you don't know anything other about general info about GW2, or how any of the general ideas will actually be implemented. You can't call GW2 anything except a handful of general ideas without knowing how they're implemented.