Guild Wars 2 News Timeline
Ravious
Like a few week's little bit? :P I feel sorry for your ArenaNet approved keyboards as you bang your head against them...hopefully they supply CM's with padded gel keyboards. 
slowerpoke
your vagueness as to when we are going to see anything isn't helping
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein
you will hear something "very soon".
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That's it! Proof we'll hear something next week!
(just kidding you Martin, I don't envy you right now)
Seriously though, if Anet is going to show something soon, why can't they announce a date?
Gigashadow
Given the claim that GW2 was never behind schedule, and that they just decided to go into beta much later than previously, what I'm wondering is which of these situations is now the case:
1) GW2 will have 9-12 months of beta, giving time to incorporate some design and bug feedback from players, then be released between end of year 2010 - 2Q 2011.
2) They've given up on getting much useful feedback from players in betas, GW2 content is already finished (voice acting done, etc.), will have only a token 3 month beta, so will release somewhere in 2Q 2010. i.e. the "2010-2011" timeblock was either just to throw competitors' timing off, OR because they didn't know, as they had multiple possible release dates for GW2 depending on what they wanted to get into the first release, and they've now decided that getting something out earlier is better than later, given other games coming out.
1) GW2 will have 9-12 months of beta, giving time to incorporate some design and bug feedback from players, then be released between end of year 2010 - 2Q 2011.
2) They've given up on getting much useful feedback from players in betas, GW2 content is already finished (voice acting done, etc.), will have only a token 3 month beta, so will release somewhere in 2Q 2010. i.e. the "2010-2011" timeblock was either just to throw competitors' timing off, OR because they didn't know, as they had multiple possible release dates for GW2 depending on what they wanted to get into the first release, and they've now decided that getting something out earlier is better than later, given other games coming out.
Aljasha
i am quite sure we will hear from guild wars 2 at gamescom and/or pax. regardless of the indirect confirmation from regina and martin, a german gaming print and online magazine called "gamestar" asked ncsoft, whether there will be news on this subject in cologne.
the article on the website (url: http://www.gamestar.de/news/pc/rolle...ld_wars_2.html) says
"Die aktuell große Frage: Wird Guild Wars 2 doch auf der Gamescom in Köln gezeigt? Wir haben bei NCsoft in England nachgefragt, dort wollte man dazu allerdings noch nichts verraten, legte uns aber dringend einen Termin nahe. Sowas lassen wir uns doch nicht zwei Mal sagen![...]"
which means that they do not confirm a show dedicated to gw2, but their (editors from "gamestar") presence over there is highly recommended.
the article on the website (url: http://www.gamestar.de/news/pc/rolle...ld_wars_2.html) says
"Die aktuell große Frage: Wird Guild Wars 2 doch auf der Gamescom in Köln gezeigt? Wir haben bei NCsoft in England nachgefragt, dort wollte man dazu allerdings noch nichts verraten, legte uns aber dringend einen Termin nahe. Sowas lassen wir uns doch nicht zwei Mal sagen![...]"
which means that they do not confirm a show dedicated to gw2, but their (editors from "gamestar") presence over there is highly recommended.
shillo
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
"Very soon", a little bit longer....
That's it! Proof we'll hear something next week! (just kidding you Martin, I don't envy you right now) Seriously though, if Anet is going to show something soon, why can't they announce a date? |
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Edit: Mordakai, if they want a surprise, it'd have to be without prior knowledge. But whether a full-on surprise announcement is a good or a bad thing, I have no clue about - I'm not in marketing.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Aljasha
which means that they do not confirm a show dedicated to gw2, but their (editors from "gamestar") presence over there is highly recommended.
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Is there any proof of an ArenaNet / Guild Wars presence at Gamescom at all?
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Originally Posted by shillo
If they keep quiet, this information leak will be only discussed on the forums at least until gamecon. If they as much as hint at the date in any official capacity, it'll hit all the MMO newssites, too. Although it'll likely happen anyway.
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Other company's generally announce planned shows at conventions.
If ArenaNet is really going to be at Gamescom, why won't they confirm that?
Ravious
The linked article mentions Jeff Grubb and Daniel Dociu... as well as Christopher Lye, who I am not sure if he works for ANet or NCSoft. So ANet will have some presence there. Google translate says that Gamestar begged for information on GW2 but they wouldn't say... or something along those lines.
own age myname
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
But it could be "highly recommended" to see Aion, correct?
Is there any proof of an ArenaNet / Guild Wars presence at Gamescom at all? And whats wrong with publicity? Other company's generally announce planned shows at conventions. If ArenaNet is really going to be at Gamescom, why won't they confirm that? |
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JR
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Originally Posted by own age myname
I know this was brought up before, but there isn't really any proof Anet will be at GamesCom.
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own age myname
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Originally Posted by JR
Martin being at GamesCom = ArenaNet being at GamesCom, surely?
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Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by own age myname
But how are they going to show a trailer (apparently) with no booth ^^?
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shoyon456
Here's the discrepancy, O'Brien says that "the day you see GW2 will be very soon now."
Whereas Martin says "before the end of the year"
Perhaps in a lifetime of 40+ years the time from now till Dec. (4 month) is not much. And in general, it is NOT a long period of time. But compared to the time since we've heard about GW2 (2007), I would not call 4 months right around the corner. It seems like they're stringing the carrot out yet AGAIN, and I am damn annoyed by it. If you're going to have something soon, then you wouldn't object to having an ACTUAL DATE.
Vague cliches like "its soon" and "keep hanging in there" without any commitment to an actual date is an empty promise. Oh wait, I can't say its a promise cause its not official, and that's what you'll say when we DON'T see anything for another 2 years, like how you left Gaile high and dry.
/endrant
Whereas Martin says "before the end of the year"
Perhaps in a lifetime of 40+ years the time from now till Dec. (4 month) is not much. And in general, it is NOT a long period of time. But compared to the time since we've heard about GW2 (2007), I would not call 4 months right around the corner. It seems like they're stringing the carrot out yet AGAIN, and I am damn annoyed by it. If you're going to have something soon, then you wouldn't object to having an ACTUAL DATE.
Vague cliches like "its soon" and "keep hanging in there" without any commitment to an actual date is an empty promise. Oh wait, I can't say its a promise cause its not official, and that's what you'll say when we DON'T see anything for another 2 years, like how you left Gaile high and dry.
/endrant
Nodakim
If i dont hear a date then its just empty talk.
18.08 for example would make me happy?
18.08 for example would make me happy?
Lonesamurai
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Originally Posted by Nodakim
If i dont hear a date then its just empty talk.
18.08 for example would make me happy? |
Nodakim
Depends...
On which calendar?
On which calendar?
Lonesamurai
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Originally Posted by Nodakim
Depends...
On which calendar? |
Greedy Gus
Fool me once...
Regardless of whether any information comes out or not, the skepticism is not unfounded at this point.
Regardless of whether any information comes out or not, the skepticism is not unfounded at this point.
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by shoyon456
Here's the discrepancy, O'Brien says that "the day you see GW2 will be very soon now."
Whereas Martin says "before the end of the year" |
Aljasha
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first, they tell us, no info will be revealed and anet won't be at gamecom (or at least won't have an own booth), then more and more "leaks" are found by fans, which partially confute the above. above all floats the statement "there will be info on gw2 later this year".
as an outsider, i would be discouraged to believe in anything anet or ncsoft tell me about gw/gw2.
as a fan, i patiently wait for gamescom and pax and hope for the best.
Lonesamurai
You know the difference between this and most other releases and all these "Leaks"?
The fans here are FAR more actively seeking information and the googlefu is strong here
I have never seen a community so actively seeking info about something before
The fans here are FAR more actively seeking information and the googlefu is strong here
I have never seen a community so actively seeking info about something before
Hyper.nl
ANet is handling the situation badly imo. Since Eye of the North there has been no significant new content. There should be two development teams: one working on Guild Wars 2 and one working on a new addition of Guild Wars 1 to fill the gap. The GW1 addition can be a new campaign or maybe a high-level only add-on like GW:EN was.
Lonesamurai
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Originally Posted by Hyper.nl
ANet is handling the situation badly imo. Since Eye of the North there has been no significant new content. There should be two development teams: one working on Guild Wars 2 and one working on a new addition of Guild Wars 1 to fill the gap. The GW1 addition can be a new campaign or maybe a high-level only add-on like GW:EN was.
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Clone
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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
You do understand that doing that would put GW2 further back right? and basically split the GW2 dev team
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own age myname
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Originally Posted by Clone
Yes we do. All they are currently relying on to keep the game going is grind. I don't think that is a good strategy for a game who's initial marketing hyped that this isn't a game where you get ahead by sheer time spent playing. Their current course is just alienating some of their early supporters.
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Enon
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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
You do understand that doing that would put GW2 further back right? and basically split the GW2 dev team
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Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by Enon
besides possible financial issues
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Fortunately, Anet has way more business sense than you do.
Enon
You're suppose to spend your money in times of a recession to stimulate the economy. *roll eyes*
Besides, if they play their cards right, they might just be able to make some profit out of it
Besides, if they play their cards right, they might just be able to make some profit out of it
Ravious
It does surprise me that they decided to stop development on GW1 in order to work on GW2. I am wondering whether the shockwaves of Tabula Rasa was still making NCSoft skittish or whether the buy-the-box business model just does not allow ANet to be splitting developments in such a way. ANet has 170 employees, which is huge. I would bet that unlike GW1, where only once did we get more content within 6 mos., the GW2 content updates to buy will be much more aggressive. Their sophomore offering is going to make or break ANet imho.
DarkRazzie
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Originally Posted by Tr0n
Seems the USK GW2 trailer entry has been removed.
http://www.usk.de/cont3.php?title=guild+wars+2&s=search |
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Ravious
It does surprise me that they decided to stop development on GW1 in order to work on GW2. I am wondering whether the shockwaves of Tabula Rasa was still making NCSoft skittish or whether the buy-the-box business model just does not allow ANet to be splitting developments in such a way. ANet has 170 employees, which is huge. I would bet that unlike GW1, where only once did we get more content within 6 mos., the GW2 content updates to buy will be much more aggressive. Their sophomore offering is going to make or break ANet imho.
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Simply, there is no way they would do it. It costs too much in pretty much every respect.
Lonesamurai
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You're suppose to spend your money in times of a recession to stimulate the economy. *roll eyes*
Besides, if they play their cards right, they might just be able to make some profit out of it |
there is NOTHING new they could do for GW1, however I know that Linsey still has lots of things she wants to do for GW1, however those things are long and time consuming things to be done and the big April update took the best part of 6 months to make and it IS a time consuming process... Hell, its also common knowledge that Linsey barely goes home some weeks with all the effort she puts in, but instead of congratulating her on the hard work and effort most just criticise that its not enough and that just makes me sick
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Originally Posted by Ravious
It does surprise me that they decided to stop development on GW1 in order to work on GW2.
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and they themselves in many interviews used the word Mistakes too
but also remember, this decision happened BEFORE Tabula Rasa died aswell, they may have known it was coming of course, in house chat and all that, but ANet dev teams are separate from the teams that worked on TR so they have no bearing on each other and as NC Soft would have thoguht at the time ANet only had GW1 and it was, as far as NC Soft was concerned, a success
Enon
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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
but instead of congratulating her on the hard work and effort
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there is NOTHING new they could do for GW1, however I know that Linsey still has lots of things she wants to do for GW1
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The answers to the first question is probably no, otherwise they would have. But is it worth it? Of course! If GW2 isn't going to be released any time soon (didn't NCsoft quarterly report said there would be an announcement around 2011-2012?) they definitely need to think of something before GW dies even further, which, in my opinion, would be a big waste of an awesome game.
By the way, your statement about Lindsey still wanting to do lots of things is a bit contradicting. You said there is nothing new they could do for GW, yet Linsey still has lots of things to do for GW1. Does this mean she's going to recycle more old content?
Cacheelma
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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
We've been telling people for months that there will be GW2 news before the end of the year.
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Seriously, haven't you learned ANYTHING from Gaile?
Lonesamurai
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Originally Posted by Enon
You mean recycling old content? :-)
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oh and FYI, if you listened to my shows that night for the b'day party when I interviewed Linsey with both Martin and Regina, you would also know that the makeover system was done by Joe on his own while he was eating lunch and shown off in a meeting as a complete surprise
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I wish you good luck on whatever the new position you'll get bumped to then.
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Ravious
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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
oh and FYI, if you listened to my shows that night for the b'day party when I interviewed Linsey with both Martin and Regina, you would also know that the makeover system was done by Joe on his own while he was eating lunch and shown off in a meeting as a complete surprise
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Lonesamurai
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Originally Posted by Ravious
I would like to listen to the shows.... where's the recordings?
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Darcy
Let's go over this again.
1. GW2 was announced very, very, VERY early in it's development because ANet needed to explain the lack of new campaigns for GW. No other company would have ever mentioned an upcoming game that early.
2. ArenaNet never, never, NEVER gives exact dates for anything until it is completely ready to happen. They don't even announce annual festivals until the week they will begin.
3. ArenaNet is aware of what is happening in the on-line gaming world. Over the years since they announced GW2, they have seen highly touted games crash and burn because they were published before they were polished. While GW was released in what was a very raw state, it was an experiment (in a way) and, because it was FTP, players stuck with ANet through all the changes. ANet is also aware that they can't do that with GW2. Fans expect so much from this upcoming game, that if it were to be released (even as a beta) with a lack of content and and a host of problems, the game would not survive the first six months.
4. No employee of ArenaNet will even hint at anything not officially approved as a public comment. They happen to like their jobs more than they like the fans and who can blame them. After all, their fellow employees don't give them the amount of grief that the fans do.
1. GW2 was announced very, very, VERY early in it's development because ANet needed to explain the lack of new campaigns for GW. No other company would have ever mentioned an upcoming game that early.
2. ArenaNet never, never, NEVER gives exact dates for anything until it is completely ready to happen. They don't even announce annual festivals until the week they will begin.
3. ArenaNet is aware of what is happening in the on-line gaming world. Over the years since they announced GW2, they have seen highly touted games crash and burn because they were published before they were polished. While GW was released in what was a very raw state, it was an experiment (in a way) and, because it was FTP, players stuck with ANet through all the changes. ANet is also aware that they can't do that with GW2. Fans expect so much from this upcoming game, that if it were to be released (even as a beta) with a lack of content and and a host of problems, the game would not survive the first six months.
4. No employee of ArenaNet will even hint at anything not officially approved as a public comment. They happen to like their jobs more than they like the fans and who can blame them. After all, their fellow employees don't give them the amount of grief that the fans do.
Tr0n
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Originally Posted by DarkRazzie
Perhaps they decided not to show it at Gamescom, instead waiting show more at PAX?
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Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by Tr0n
As long as they show *anything* at all, I'll be good.
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In short: don't expect anything and you'll be more than happy with whatever comes, or not!