I know what you mean. I'll admit to choosing 2, though That was more down to being overly honest.
I mean, if I'm perfectly blunt? Of COURSE I want more information! I'm a human being, and therefore impatient! But that doesn't mean I don't appreciate the reasons why it isn't forthcoming this very second. If the wording had been changed from 'might have a reason' to 'does have its reasons' it would have been more appropriate, but still.
Guild Wars 2 News Timeline
TottWriter
Thalador Doomspeaker
I'm starting to give up hope. I remember how excited I was, when I first saw the announcements/tiny infos about GW2. After 2 years it's quite sad, that we have not seen any pictures/videos/infos about the game yet. If they won't show anything at GamesCom or PAX, I'll turn away from GW and wait for SW:ToR, even if I must pay a monthly fee. At least it looks pretty good, and they are handling the informations pretty well too.
On topic, I was thinking about #2, but eventually I chose #1.
On topic, I was thinking about #2, but eventually I chose #1.
Aljasha
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Anyone know what background that is?
http://img263.yfrog.com/img263/135/tbe.jpg Looks like a Charr maybe?  |
Ravious
Looks more like Ascalonian/Vanguard armor than Charr.
Lonesamurai
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Riiiiiight, because there's currently a GW2 website, beta, screenshots, etc... like Gaile said last year? I hate to beat the dead horse but apparently some people still aren't getting the fact that Anet has already said there will be GW2 stuff once. Like the other poster said, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and shame on me.
I don't need to go over everything Anet has said over the years that didn't come to be, but last year Gaile's thing was specific to GW2 and she made a very clear and bold statement. You can say it was because they changed their minds, FINE, but don't tell me they will definitely not do the same thing again. As to your earlier post about GW2 being a 3D D3 or along those lines...you don't know anything other about general info about GW2, or how any of the general ideas will actually be implemented. You can't call GW2 anything except a handful of general ideas without knowing how they're implemented. |
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To be fair, the CM that told us most of the vague crud is no longer a CM... perhaps for a reason.
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But you have a point about other things in GW1 that haven't come to pass, and nearly EVERY one of the things they/we wanted adding they mention as part of the reason for scrapping GW1 and starting GW2... The gW1 engine had to many limitations and making those changes would have broken the game (Hell look at the XTH)
Look, just accept that GW2 will have most of the things the community has asked for like an auction house (I know Inde, its not conformed, but I'm taking GW2 coming as the confirmation :P ) and other things
shoyon456
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Hawk pretty much summed it up
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Look, just accept that GW2 will have most of the things the community has asked for like an auction house (I know Inde, its not conformed, but I'm taking GW2 coming as the confirmation :P ) and other things
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It would be fair to say they're intending to make a better game (whether they do or not still remains to be seen) but don't assume that a higher level cap, an auction house, and the ability to jump will make GW2 more fun or a "better" game than GW1. The reason it is troubling that they are doing all of this, is because many saw GW1 as "revolutionary" and by adding these things, its as if Anet is taking steps backwards towards WoW.
Brett Kuntz
Maybe you should just relax on the posting for awhile, until after PAX. If they still don't show us anything after PAX, you'll have an argument, but until then just give it a break already.
Giga_Gaia
I won't blame Anet for wanting their game to be prettier in terms of a Z-axis, multiple races, etc. While it may be a step away from what their original game was like, it's fine as long as it's not another WoW wannabe. As long as GW2 won't have the "kill X amount of enemies" or "collect Y amount of items" or "deliver this item to the guy right next to you" type of "quests" (if you can even call them that), I'll be happy. That was the sole reason I stopped enjoying WoW after the first 10 levels.
But OT, while I can't say that Gaile was the best, I don't like Regina and Martin's vague answers that don't answer anything at all. In the end, I find that Mike O'Brien (in his recent Wiki entry) and Linsey gives much better/more accurate information, and that's saying something.
But OT, while I can't say that Gaile was the best, I don't like Regina and Martin's vague answers that don't answer anything at all. In the end, I find that Mike O'Brien (in his recent Wiki entry) and Linsey gives much better/more accurate information, and that's saying something.
Cool Down
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I won't blame Anet for wanting their game to be prettier in terms of a Z-axis, multiple races, etc. While it may be a step away from what their original game was like, it's fine as long as it's not another WoW wannabe. As long as GW2 won't have the "kill X amount of enemies" or "collect Y amount of items" or "deliver this item to the guy right next to you" type of "quests" (if you can even call them that), I'll be happy. That was the sole reason I stopped enjoying WoW after the first 10 levels.
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own age myname
If GW2 has "Kill X" and "Bring X to Y" I'll instantly drop the game and never turn back.
DarkRazzie
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If GW2 has "Kill X" and "Bring X to Y" I'll instantly drop the game and never turn back.
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Giga_Gaia
Sure GW has a few of those, but they are very few and far in between. But almost all other MMO's, WoW included, are all about the "kill X, collect Y" kind of grinding over and over again. It's like, why am I even doing this? Don't I have some more epic stuff to do as a main character other than being everybody's errand boy? I don't understand how people can withstand that kind of pointless, repetitive, and boring gameplay.
DarkRazzie
Hmm, I've been playing GW for 4 years and almost every quest is collecting or killing X number of certain beasties. WoW is HORRENDOUS for this. At least in GW, the errands feel like they're paying off. Now, perhaps you were talking about quests and missions combined? Missions are interesting and fun... but I can't think of any quest that wasn't either collecting something, "go speak to X person" (in another town), kill X beast/s... heck, all of that is grinding in my book. I suppose what a person considers "grinding" may be largely a matter of opinion?
Wuhy
check some eotn quests, like the drinking one, or the rabid bear one, they are awesome and not grind at all, I'd say give us less quests and opportunity to find the better ones by not hiding them among repetitive "kill x collect y bring this to z"
pamelf
I made the leap and moved on to Aion. Wasn't going to do it, but GW will be dead to me as of September (maybe).
Tr0n
Well, you can preorder Aion, get the 40 some days of playtime + all closed and open betas and then decide. If GW2 comes out this year (very unlikely) you can still continue playing it.
No need to choose.
No need to choose.
Aljasha
i don't remember gw's quests to be all about killing and gathering. however, the mix between missions and quests create a well-balanced pve experience and the max level is reached very quickly. hence, you don't have to quest if you don't want to, which gives the quest writers more freedom to actually tell side stories.
in fact, that's one of the reasons i had so much fun playing gw, also that's the reason gw is in some way far superior to other orpgs. (*wishes gw2 will be the same*)
i hope to tickle some "hidden" information out of martin. if i learn more, you'll be the first to know.
in fact, that's one of the reasons i had so much fun playing gw, also that's the reason gw is in some way far superior to other orpgs. (*wishes gw2 will be the same*)
i hope to tickle some "hidden" information out of martin. if i learn more, you'll be the first to know.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but pretty much any game in the vein of Guild Wars is going to have at least SOME of that... there has to be small "fetch" and "kill" quests to help get you going. If the entire experience is completely "EPIC", then epic would get boring... in my humble opinion.
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As long as GW2 won't have the "kill X amount of enemies" or "collect Y amount of items" or "deliver this item to the guy right next to you" type of "quests" (if you can even call them that), I'll be happy.
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JR
Here's an interesting take on the topic from Gamasutra.
In particular, these quotes:
It definately seems like GW2 was announced far too early, but you can't blame them for not starting to market the game yet.
In particular, these quotes:
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"While I see a lot of year-long campaigns for blockbuster games, casual games typically have shorter campaigns. We often announce games six or eight months before release, but sometimes it can be less than that." - Jeremy Zoss, Communications Manager for Destineer |
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"With a AAA title developed by a well-known studio you want to start building anticipation early, which is why you see a lot of big games being announced sometimes more than a year in advance at E3." - Sheila Bryson, Director of Spark PR |
Nodakim
GW2 wasnt announced to early,because it had a additional function of keeping people playing GW1.
But the problem is the lack of info...
But the problem is the lack of info...
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GW2 wasnt announced to early,because it had a additional function of keeping people playing GW1.
But the problem is the lack of info... |
They have been smart in building up suspense so far. Not releasing anything and being secretive just makes people's hunger for information even greater. The minute they release even one single screenshot or article it will be posted up on gaming news websites everywhere. If they come packing a trailer and more info it will spread even further.
They can't waste that opportunity too far from beta/release. If they blow it all too early then people will get bored again and wander off. They need to do it in a time frame that allows them to get the ball rolling and keep up the momentum all the way through.
They tried to have their cake and eat it, by using the announcement (particularly the HoM link) as a crutch for the GW playerbase and then hoping we would let that slide and wait patiently. Sadly we can't, but that doesn't mean they should put themselves in an even worse position by trying to appease us with screenshots.
Tr0n
Yeah. Because if you look at it, the only people that might get turned-off by the lack of information are fans of the game and you pretty much know that everyone is gonna check the game out once it's released.
The trick is to expand the player base, which means selling more copies and making more money.
That leads me to believe they have quite a marketing push planned for GW2.
The trick is to expand the player base, which means selling more copies and making more money.
That leads me to believe they have quite a marketing push planned for GW2.
Ravious
Yeah, that article and comments here is why I don't think they are going to have a year-long marketing campaign. I am still hoping/wishing/betting for a 5th Anniversary release. Guess we will know soon enough. GW2 seems to be "on deck" after Aion rounds the bases or strikes out.
Tr0n
Why would GW2 need to wait for Aion?
There's a place in the market for both games. Just like GW could compete with WoW (considering the release dates and how many copies GW sold), so it can with Aion.
There's a place in the market for both games. Just like GW could compete with WoW (considering the release dates and how many copies GW sold), so it can with Aion.
Ravious
Yes, but is there a place in the marketing swamp? Aion is NCSoft's golden child. ArenaNet at the end of the day is a wholly-owned subsidiaru. After Tabula Rasa, which still burns in the memory of the Korean overlords, the last thing they want is for anything to get in the way of a large-market Aion launch... especially a fantasy RPG from their own stable.
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Precisely the opposite, if you understood what I was saying at all. The problem isn't lack of information, because it would be stupid to start a marketing campaign now.
They have been smart in building up suspense so far. Not releasing anything and being secretive just makes people's hunger for information even greater. The minute they release even one single screenshot or article it will be posted up on gaming news websites everywhere. If they come packing a trailer and more info it will spread even further. They can't waste that opportunity too far from beta/release. If they blow it all too early then people will get bored again and wander off. They need to do it in a time frame that allows them to get the ball rolling and keep up the momentum all the way through. They tried to have their cake and eat it, by using the announcement (particularly the HoM link) as a crutch for the GW playerbase and then hoping we would let that slide and wait patiently. Sadly we can't, but that doesn't mean they should put themselves in an even worse position by trying to appease us with screenshots. |
Maybe,but the problem is that some people completely stopped caring by now.
In the last few months -bitching- is on the rise,and they need to release something now ASAP.Its a perfect time,but I still dont like it.
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Maybe,but the problem is that some people completely stopped caring by now.
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Even the most jaded troll on this forum is probably going to give GW2 a shot once the marketing takes hold.
shoyon456
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Even the most jaded troll on this forum is probably going to give GW2 a shot once the marketing takes hold.
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the reskin of the north
the title grind
the late and nonexistent skill updates
the lack of info about the updates
the ignored "benchmarks" for gw2 news
the slow deterioration of GW1 that was induced by anet
and overall the horrible CR
and then I'll go back to swtor
JR
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and then I'll go back to swtor
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Nodakim
But its SW:TOR with god damn lightsabers...
You just cant beat lightsabers.
You just cant beat lightsabers.
TottWriter
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But its SW:TOR with god damn lightsabers...
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Personally, I have little interest in lightsabres.
Mordakai
HawkofStorms
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But its SW:TOR with god damn lightsabers...
You just cant beat lightsabers. |
Err Chaos Axes. Just need that sound effect. *SWOOSH SWOOSH* Heck, 90% of the "cool" factor of lightsabers (compared to every other cartoon/video game that has knockoff lazerswords) are the sound effects.
Nodakim
Imagine a Dragon and Sword in one.Like its a live dragon but it can transform into a sword or something.
That would be awesome.
That would be awesome.
Operative 14
I'll admit I was wrong. It didn't take a fully developed website with a couple of pieces of concept art and an FAQ, it just took a flash logo. 
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In which case you are probably not a core member of the fantasy demographic games like Guild Wars are aimed at.
Personally, I have little interest in lightsabres. |
Mordakai
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Imagine a Dragon and Sword in one.Like its a live dragon but it can transform into a sword or something.
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Wonder why there are no Chaos Swords?
Nodakim
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Please hand in your geek badge at the front desk as security escorts you the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO off my internets.
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AAah,do i realy have to?
Okay.
*leaves*
Martacus Grognoggin
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A flaming dragon sword is kinda like a Lightsaber....
Wonder why there are no Chaos Swords? |