heh..yeah, just like chp 1 does.......
the funny thing is --- I'm lvl 16 on my first character, btw --- I was actually trying to make a little cash to start saving for 15k armor until I just found out it was the same as the cheap armor.
I just don't see the point of starting a game and immediately buying all the good stuff.
the whole point of the game is to find things as you progress --- that's balancing.
if people really want all this stuff so badly, they don't have to concoct all these schemes on playing the skull market -- just go to e-bay and you're an instant millionaire who can buy all the premium items the second chp 2 hits the shelves.
for the sake of honesty, though, I'll admit I used 5 canes to get myself 4k credit on a 3 pt vamp hilt.
and an hour later, somebody gave me a cane just to be nice.
I think that underscores the ridiculousness of it all.
Candy cane pricing..
eom
Kakumei
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if you guys have a bunch of clever strategies for playing the markets, use them in real life where 100k isn't just dumped on you from out of the sky.
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i'll totally rake in the cash
IlikeGW
I doubt price will spike unless sellers start doing it in unison artificially.
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I doubt price will spike unless sellers start doing it in unison artificially.
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i think it will depend on whether or not enough people find a real use for them.if it turns out useful people will stock up and prices will rise.
considering how much gold is out there if a rich person has a use he/she may just offer 1k for all you have and it will be pocket change to them
i am saving mine until exploring chapter 2 takes off
Manic Smile
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I see them capping out at 100g each. I wouldnt pay it but im sure others will.
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yeah... there is such a thing as collectors, you could ahve gotten one a long time ago mate.
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Woutsie
I have 250 canes now, and if i have used them all, i won't buy more
Francis Crawford
I think it's fun to challenge myself. Therefore I think it's fun to go out under circumstances where it's likely I'll get killed. Therefore I think candy canes could enhance fun.
E.g., pre candy-cane I went out with my non-ascended teens-level character (I forget exactly which level he was at), who had (and still has) Drok's armor but not really godly weapons, and no other elites, to cap elites in Snake Dance.
Maybe not orthodox, but is was challenging and fun.
Didn't need candy canes -- but I might if I want to repeat the trick elsewhere in the Shiverpeaks.
Candy canes can also be a substitute for only going out when somebody in your group already knows where you're going. E.g., I got to Augury Rock just with henchies and an online map. I think I used a cane or two to do it (again, I don't recall for sure).
And having screwed up and not capped Ether Renewal when I did the Elona Reach mission, I plan to take henchies and go back in to do it. If it takes a cane, so be it.
E.g., pre candy-cane I went out with my non-ascended teens-level character (I forget exactly which level he was at), who had (and still has) Drok's armor but not really godly weapons, and no other elites, to cap elites in Snake Dance.
Maybe not orthodox, but is was challenging and fun.
Didn't need candy canes -- but I might if I want to repeat the trick elsewhere in the Shiverpeaks.
Candy canes can also be a substitute for only going out when somebody in your group already knows where you're going. E.g., I got to Augury Rock just with henchies and an online map. I think I used a cane or two to do it (again, I don't recall for sure).
And having screwed up and not capped Ether Renewal when I did the Elona Reach mission, I plan to take henchies and go back in to do it. If it takes a cane, so be it.
pegasux
i got 222 candy canes left and I'm using them for myself if i ever need them...I gave 25 away to 5 people in LA yesterday after I spammed I was selling <just helping out the low level characters>...after all it's NOT real money...only a game folks. I doesn't matter how much money you have in a game, you won't be envied for it...all anyone needs is enough to get their weapons and armor. JMO
Willy Rockwell
Today CC were being offered for 800 each in LA. I asked the seller if they were actually selling at that price and he said yes, he had sold 600. Doubt that all 600 went for 800 each, but price is going up.
Not too much of a surprise, if you are near the end of a difficult mission with -60 DP, you would pay almost anything to get healthy again.
Not too much of a surprise, if you are near the end of a difficult mission with -60 DP, you would pay almost anything to get healthy again.
frickaline
I think a market does exist for these due to their obvious uses for runners and farmers. Since you have to pay to enter the UW/FoW areas and you stand to lose money on a failed run attempt (particularly to Droknar's Forge), these will rise in price once the market is no longer saturated with them.
At the present time, so many people that play have these stockpiled, but I think that once the new expansion comes out there will be an influx of new blood. If these new people wish to farm and do Droknar runs, they will likely pay up for DP removal.
I mean consider this scenario - you are running to Droknar with 5 people willing to each pay 3k if you succeed. You make it to the zone, but acquire DP after that. You are looking at losing 15k if you fail. I think 1k to save that run would be more than reasonable. I'm sure there are other similarly compelling scenarios.
At the present time, so many people that play have these stockpiled, but I think that once the new expansion comes out there will be an influx of new blood. If these new people wish to farm and do Droknar runs, they will likely pay up for DP removal.
I mean consider this scenario - you are running to Droknar with 5 people willing to each pay 3k if you succeed. You make it to the zone, but acquire DP after that. You are looking at losing 15k if you fail. I think 1k to save that run would be more than reasonable. I'm sure there are other similarly compelling scenarios.
Sk8tborderx
You might want to sell the candy canes before chapter 2 comes out, there might be items that will remove DP that you can buy from the merchant.
Derek Bad
Candy Canes go for like 100g each. They only removes death penalty in combat areas..
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You might want to sell the candy canes before chapter 2 comes out, there might be items that will remove DP that you can buy from the merchant.
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You might want to sell the candy canes before chapter 2 comes out, there might be items that will remove DP that you can buy from the merchant.
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Vampyre
I've seen them go for 1k a piece.. it's crazy....
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I've been reading rumors to this effect. Like you will be able to buy "med kits" from merchants. This is total speculation as far as I know, but it's something to think about if you're holding on to your CC's hoping that the prices will jump.
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I know it's incredibly boring, but I can only repeat what Gaile has said when asked about rumours in the past: Until we confirm something, don't set your heart on it being true. If it's a rumour, chances are it's going to be wrong. That's the way these things go, a lot of the time. Someone will talk about something they'd *like* to have, and overtime as more people talk about it it gets twisted into "I heard they are going to do this..." __________________ Alex 'GhostRaptor' Weekes Guild Wars Community Relations NCsoft Europe |
Lord Dobo
Wow King Symeon, I've seen your posts in other places, you're a black and white kinda guy aren't you, lol. I too have never used a candy cane, but I've been in frustrating situations where it might have been nice to have one. And not everyone in the game is as skilled as some of us are. I think there will be sales here and there to cover for most people's stocks for months to come, and as long as you didn't buy them yourself, it's all profit, even at 50gp each. I farmed nolani untill I got bored, and I have to say, there weren't really that many people there farming, so you don't have to worry about everyone having one. There were what, three districts open? And not everyone there was actually farming. Anet claims something like one million copies of the game sold right? Here in the US it's got to be at least half of that right? Assume half of those are PvE players... the main market for candy canes... and you have a lot of people without dp removal who get stuck in simple places, and not so simple places, who could use a quick pick me up, or face doing a whole map over again. And how many of us have many in stock? even if it were a thousand people, you have a market of 250 buyers to one supplier. That's IF Anet is right about copies sold. But even at 100 to one, I think in a few months they will sell. My concern is that Anet will have potion dealers in chapter two that will make these obsolete, but even then, I gathered them myself... so no mater what I sell them at, I make money.
Wanna hear something funny, I have 1000 of them. I gathered them because I wanted them for my guildies. I got bored otherwise I'd have 2000. They were droping like 15 a run. And with a pyro I had an easy time of it. I collected those in four days of few hours a night. Did it after work because I find collecting fun. Atleast it was something to do, had a purpose. Now, the hilareous thing is, I did it for fun, didn't pay a gold piece, and if they can be sold at 500 a pop... I'm siting on 500k... not do funny now eh? All for a little diversion in my day that I enjoyed.
Wanna hear something funny, I have 1000 of them. I gathered them because I wanted them for my guildies. I got bored otherwise I'd have 2000. They were droping like 15 a run. And with a pyro I had an easy time of it. I collected those in four days of few hours a night. Did it after work because I find collecting fun. Atleast it was something to do, had a purpose. Now, the hilareous thing is, I did it for fun, didn't pay a gold piece, and if they can be sold at 500 a pop... I'm siting on 500k... not do funny now eh? All for a little diversion in my day that I enjoyed.
Red Sonya
I farmed my favorite spot and got 10 to 12 canes a trip was easy to have hundreds in no time. Now to get 1k each for them and become the richest person in GW's. 
And I'm still wearing 1500gp armor lol
And medi-kits in the 2nd chapter is just a rumor and we all know what Gaile says about rumors. Unlimited medi-kits would just eliminate the Death Penalty and I doubt they are all for that. There would be no challenge left in the game if there was unlimited Death Penalty cures. Candy Canes will run out eventually, and by this time next Christmas will be popular again. As for medi-kits I'll believe it when I see it not when some forumite that "wishes" they were in the game says they will be in the game, they don't know squat.
And medi-kits in the 2nd chapter is just a rumor and we all know what Gaile says about rumors. Unlimited medi-kits would just eliminate the Death Penalty and I doubt they are all for that. There would be no challenge left in the game if there was unlimited Death Penalty cures. Candy Canes will run out eventually, and by this time next Christmas will be popular again. As for medi-kits I'll believe it when I see it not when some forumite that "wishes" they were in the game says they will be in the game, they don't know squat.
The Acolyte
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Candy Canes go for like 100g each. They only removes death penalty in combat areas..
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My guess is that the price will stabilize between 300g to 700g each. Most people don't need more than 3-5 on a toon, and most will only use them for the most dire of circumstances. I would think UW/FoW groups would find this really useful for that one mistake that wipes out a good portion of the group.
Personally, I won't use one for myself unless I cross the -30% dp threshold, which rarely happens. I find them very useful for trying to learn difficult runs, such as the 55 solo monk IDS run (especially when you get to the springs zone...it just helps speed up the process of learning the second part of the run since I don't have to start back at the citadel).
Candy canes are very useful in the right circumstances...
The Acolyte
Markaedw
I just sold 300 to a runner friend for 150k, I don't forsee them going for more than 500g each. people my try to sell them for more and a few may even buy at 1k, I suspect most won't. But since I'm down to my last stack I won't be selling any of mine. I did give some out because the group I was with went out of thier way to help me skill cap and we got some DP for that. I felt it was only fair.
Big_Iron
I almost wish that I hadn't been handing them out like...candy , when I was IDS farming in PuGs. Doesn't matter. I still have a buttload, more than I'll ever need for each of my chars. If the market gets good enough, maybe I'll start peddling them too.
FibberMcgee
It would seem that some people still have Candy Canes mixed up with Candy Cane shards. Perhaps your posts were a little unclear. Candy Canes did not "drop" anywhere, only the material to trade for them. Only shards "dropped" and were only good for candy weapons.
Fibber
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Lord Dobo
Oh yeah, almost forgot... Mattjones 527... you were majorly ripped off. That sword you bought, the one with the +15% above 50% health bonus... it's not a collector's item like someone else said, but it is a weaponsmith item in Droknar's forge. I swear... people never even look at those guys. If you combine that guy's stock with the collector's stock, you have everything you need to make a perfect weapon, you just need the mods. Anyways, you gave away 250 candy canes which could have given you, at the very least, 25k... and probably more. The weapon only cost that guy 5k plus supplies. I guess it's up to you to determine if that's what you were willing to pay, but I urge everone to start paying attention to the collectors and weapon smiths. They have great stuff.
Lord Dobo
You are right, candy canes didn't drop, but skulls did, and they were a 1:1 trade. So in essence, the candy canes dropped.
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I still have a buttload, more than I'll ever need for each of my chars. If the market gets good enough, maybe I'll start peddling them too.
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I had to laugh -- the usual expression is boatload, not buttload. And the mental image of a boatload of candy canes is a lot more pleasant than the one your note conjures up.
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Just to clarify, so people don't think I'm a total doofus (or for those that don't already think so). I didn't confuse the term "boatload" for "buttload." "Buttload" is a term I grew up with still still use quite often.
Sharpe_116
well... here my opinion on it. the last couple of months ive realized that money is completly useless for me. ive bought every weopon i need, my armours, my runes. the only reason for money i see (for me) is incase chapter two brings out some new stuff . so i bought 1000 skulls (100k) for 1000 cc's . And now ive become sort of a collecter of money lmao. So im planning to hold on to these to see how the prices twirl. If the public wants candy canes. BY GOD THEY WILL GET CANDY CANES
. so i bought 1000 skulls (100k) for 1000 cc's . And now ive become sort of a collecter of money lmao. So im planning to hold on to these to see how the prices twirl. If the public wants candy canes. BY GOD THEY WILL GET CANDY CANES
The Acolyte
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well... here my opinion on it. the last couple of months ive realized that money is completly useless for me. ive bought every weopon i need, my armours, my runes. the only reason for money i see (for me) is incase chapter two brings out some new stuff
. so i bought 1000 skulls (100k) for 1000 cc's . And now ive become sort of a collecter of money lmao. So im planning to hold on to these to see how the prices twirl. If the public wants candy canes. BY GOD THEY WILL GET CANDY CANES |
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Oh yeah, almost forgot... Mattjones 527... you were majorly ripped off. That sword you bought, the one with the +15% above 50% health bonus... it's not a collector's item like someone else said, but it is a weaponsmith item in Droknar's forge. I swear... people never even look at those guys. If you combine that guy's stock with the collector's stock, you have everything you need to make a perfect weapon, you just need the mods. Anyways, you gave away 250 candy canes which could have given you, at the very least, 25k... and probably more. The weapon only cost that guy 5k plus supplies. I guess it's up to you to determine if that's what you were willing to pay, but I urge everone to start paying attention to the collectors and weapon smiths. They have great stuff.
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REALLY THE COLLECTOR IN DROKS HAS A REQ. 8 15^50 LONG SWORD SKIN!!!! Funny the olny thing he ever tried to sell me was a REQ.9 "long Sword" with a short sword skin.....i've been playing this game for around 6 months. I've always like the long sword skin the best(not the short sword skin with the long sword name). However I couldnt justify buying one for 100k+ when my req8 15^50 flamberge did the job just as well.
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but it is a weaponsmith item in Droknar's forge. I swear... people never even look at those guys.
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I was initailly hoping the value would rise to around 1k each, however now it seems the majority of people who think they are useful, are the ones who stockpiled them. So i'm not sure if they will ever reach the 1k mark. The only way I think they might get that high is in a month or two when all the people who got GW for christmas realize what they missed.
Mimi Miyagi
Or...prices plummet once people realize you can play this game just fine without them. People managed for months before.
Lord Dobo
I said he was a weapon smith not a collector, that was someone else, check the posts again. My point is to take this guy's stock (the weaponsmith) and the stock of the collector's as a good place to start on making a perfect weapon. And as far as the 9 requirement goes, I just figured you just mis-typed. I haven't bothered buying it so I haven't looked at the skin, so calm down. I agree that anything non-collector that has those bonuses is better because of looks. But come on, why do you care about a weapon requirement 8? Either you have points in swordsmanship to do damage, in which case you want twelve for 100% damage, or you don't really use the sword, and are using it for a bonus. And a damgae bonus would make no sense if you drop it to 8 and plan on using it. There is a thread around here that proves that if you have the req. skill or above, you don't need to worry about the actual number, it all does the same damage as long as you don't go below it. So if we want to throw around hurt feelings, yes, you did get ripped off, because any warrior who actually uses his sword doesn't need to be impressed by an 8 when a 9 will do. But you win on the looks department. I'd much rather have a wingblade sword than a long or short sword.
And on the subject of candy canes, I keep running into people who don't know what they are but think they are great once they are told about the dp removal. So I don't agree that the stockpilers are the only ones who see value. There are many people here who have sold them in the past few day, how can you say they are useless if there are people who already turned a profit. I didn't stockpile mine for sale purposes, but I will sell if I feel the need too... and I have no doubt I'll make money.
And on the subject of candy canes, I keep running into people who don't know what they are but think they are great once they are told about the dp removal. So I don't agree that the stockpilers are the only ones who see value. There are many people here who have sold them in the past few day, how can you say they are useless if there are people who already turned a profit. I didn't stockpile mine for sale purposes, but I will sell if I feel the need too... and I have no doubt I'll make money.
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And on the subject of candy canes, I keep running into people who don't know what they are but think they are great once they are told about the dp removal. So I don't agree that the stockpilers are the only ones who see value. There are many people here who have sold them in the past few day, how can you say they are useless if there are people who already turned a profit. I didn't stockpile mine for sale purposes, but I will sell if I feel the need too... and I have no doubt I'll make money.
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They are not "useless" - but their value is (once again) overblown, just like 95% of the items being bought and sold within the game.
Lord Dobo
I agree that they are overblown, but does that mean they won't sell? I can't really predict the price they will sell for... no one can, but I put my vote in for the belief that they will sell for months to come, even if prices fluctuate.
Kook~NBK~
I've seen the prices run normally from 400 - 700g ea. I've seen the uncommon "WTS CC - 1K ea" thing and the ridiculous "WTS CC - 5K ea" I've got a small stockpile, not sure how I want to handle them.
But there is a market for them, especially for folks trying to do new things - FoW & UW, forge running, IDS farming, and End-game quests. And I imagine with chapter 2 coming, there'll be a whole bunch of assasins who are gonna want to have a bit of an edge when first getting a handle on that character.
What gets me is the scammers who are selling CC shards/weapons now. Hope by now most people know that all you can do with shards is salvage them for glittering dust. As for the weapons, I "used" them in the snowball fights(fun stuff, them snowball fights!), but after the event, they just took up space so I tossed them (I kept the Santa hats, tho )
But there is a market for them, especially for folks trying to do new things - FoW & UW, forge running, IDS farming, and End-game quests. And I imagine with chapter 2 coming, there'll be a whole bunch of assasins who are gonna want to have a bit of an edge when first getting a handle on that character.
What gets me is the scammers who are selling CC shards/weapons now. Hope by now most people know that all you can do with shards is salvage them for glittering dust. As for the weapons, I "used" them in the snowball fights(fun stuff, them snowball fights!), but after the event, they just took up space so I tossed them (I kept the Santa hats, tho
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Francis Crawford
I think the prices are reflective of sensible use.
One cane to get you back from -60 DP, when you can't go on at that level? Sure, if it isn't so early in the mission that you just restart.
A cane each time you die? Too wasteful, and unsustainable for long.
One cane to get you back from -60 DP, when you can't go on at that level? Sure, if it isn't so early in the mission that you just restart.
A cane each time you die? Too wasteful, and unsustainable for long.
Lord Dobo
You think the candy cane weapon being sold is a scam? I guess I don't know. What are they bieng sold for? I stored a few extra that I was going to give to guildies who weren't there, but I had some left over that I thought I'd sell cheap to those who were bummed at missing out on a neat little holiday. If they are trying to sell for lots I agree it's a scam, but what would be a fair price to have a little momento of wintersday?
The Acolyte
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You think the candy cane weapon being sold is a scam? I guess I don't know. What are they bieng sold for? I stored a few extra that I was going to give to guildies who weren't there, but I had some left over that I thought I'd sell cheap to those who were bummed at missing out on a neat little holiday. If they are trying to sell for lots I agree it's a scam, but what would be a fair price to have a little momento of wintersday?
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I still switch to a candy cane wand with my monk when farming/questing with an ss with spinal shivers...it works great to help intertupt a critical caster boss with the cold damage. Nothing fancy, and I'm only using it to interupt...once the boss is dead, I switch back to my normal weapon set and carry on.
Anyway, there is definitely value to these weapons, though I wouldn't recommend anyone spending too much for them (in the end, you COULD just use a water wand for the cold damage for the spinal shivers point, though damage for newbs wouldn't be at the consistent 10 damage).
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Wait until the summer, candy cane prices will rival ecto and shard prices.
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Jaythen Tyradel
I had a 60dp trying to get to copperhammer mines...no thanks to the Jade bows that were camping the rezz shirne.
I made it to copperhammer mines without much difficulty still having a 55dp. It took longer since I had less health and energy, but it didnt prevent me from being able to get there.
The candy canes will only be worth something to people that need it. UW and FOW is understandable since failure means starting all over again and dp can be a factor in the failure.
I am keeping my CC's for now and not using them or selling them. I will wait to see what the demand truly comes out to be.
I made it to copperhammer mines without much difficulty still having a 55dp. It took longer since I had less health and energy, but it didnt prevent me from being able to get there.
The candy canes will only be worth something to people that need it. UW and FOW is understandable since failure means starting all over again and dp can be a factor in the failure.
I am keeping my CC's for now and not using them or selling them. I will wait to see what the demand truly comes out to be.