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Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

01 Sep 2009 at 22:29 - 1

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Update - Tuesday, September 1
Miscellaneous

* Nicholas the Traveler has been brushing up on his language skills.
* Kun Shao has gone on vacation until the Xunlai Tournament House is able to distribute points for the month of May.
* Fixed a bug that allowed teams to sync join in random PvP.

OWNED!!!! 12 chars

naughteblonde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Rabid Hamsters [NUBY]

E/

01 Sep 2009 at 22:29 - 2

No more RA syncers!

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

01 Sep 2009 at 22:30 - 3

Yay! No more sync!

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

01 Sep 2009 at 22:33 - 4

lol, scratch that, it sounds like you can still sync after all.

dr love

...is in denial

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hyperion

starcraft 2

P/Me

01 Sep 2009 at 22:33 - 5

Fixed a bug that allowed teams to sync join in random PvP

Z O M G!

it was just a 'bug'? i'd count that as a major update lol

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

01 Sep 2009 at 22:34 - 6

Wow about time... RA sync shoulda been implemented when the game first came out!

Zaris

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

The Netherlands

01 Sep 2009 at 22:38 - 7

* Fixed a bug that allowed teams to sync join in random PvP.
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DDD

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

01 Sep 2009 at 22:38 - 8

Syncing was good for a laugh.

No more free z-keys - major update

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

01 Sep 2009 at 22:39 - 9

Can someone from Anet please define, 'fixed'?

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

01 Sep 2009 at 22:45 - 10

So will they force a disconnect on everyone so no one talks to Kun Shao? Because I- *ahem* someone could totally bork XTH if they do not.

Mwuhahahaha!

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

01 Sep 2009 at 22:46 - 11

<3 u Anet if this really works. EDIT: actually, <3 u period since you've even been looking into solving it, and double <3 if it works.

Although I predict by...let's say page 5 there will be a screenshot of a guild team, whether it's RA, JQ, or FA.

Master Ketsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

middle of nowhere

Krazy Guild With Krazy People [KrZy]

R/

01 Sep 2009 at 22:49 - 12

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Fixed a bug that allowed teams to sync join in random PvP.

I would like to take a moment to laugh at all the noobs who argued that syncing was not a bug.

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

01 Sep 2009 at 22:51 - 13

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Originally Posted by zelgadissan

<3 u Anet if this really works.

Although I predict by...let's say page 5 there will be a screenshot of a guild team, whether it's RA, JQ, or FA.

^ Is why I think the Test Krewe, when they get in there, will be able to pound on stuff like this and report back on how they did it/broke it before the fix goes into production.

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

01 Sep 2009 at 22:51 - 14

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Originally Posted by zelgadissan

<3 u Anet if this really works.

Although I predict by...let's say page 5 there will be a screenshot of a guild team, whether it's RA, JQ, or FA.

Only one way to find out... Let's all go test the fix out and see if we find any guilds in the same teams! If anyone finds any, screen shot that and post here!

I'm going to go test this right now!

lilDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Treehouse #1

W/

01 Sep 2009 at 22:57 - 15

All I can say is.... OMG, they are FIXING stuff!!1one!!11

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

01 Sep 2009 at 22:57 - 16

I would test but I needed the space so GW had to go, on the plus side I have the Aion open beta downloaded

IronSheik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Wolfenstein: Goldrush

Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom]

N/

01 Sep 2009 at 22:58 - 17

So do tell how this bug was solved?

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

01 Sep 2009 at 23:01 - 18

Kun Shao is now sleeping with the fishes.

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

01 Sep 2009 at 23:01 - 19

wait, so NOW they admit it's a bug? I thought they were going to the ends of the earth to explain that it was properly function and was always meant to be that way, and that we were idiots for thinking otherwise.

Otherwise, it's a good sign that they are removing Kun Shao. That should mean XTH has been fixed. However, I guess they'd do the same thing if they were going to remove it entirely too.

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

01 Sep 2009 at 23:02 - 20

Good job.

12 chars...

Apok Omen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Commence Aggro [BaMf]

Mo/E

01 Sep 2009 at 23:04 - 21

I can comfirm it has been 'fixed'. Tried to sync with guildies five times, the most we got on our team was 3 of our guys. Seems as though they combined all districts into one super-district or something.

Dammmmmmmmmmmmmn!

Windf0rce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

01 Sep 2009 at 23:11 - 22

RA rocks fun-wise and deserved this treat. Ty Anet.

Fox Reeveheart

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

none q.q

D/

01 Sep 2009 at 23:21 - 23

me so happy ^_^

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

01 Sep 2009 at 23:32 - 24

Great update or Greatest update?

El Presidente

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Lookout Post #1, Andes Mountains

Custer Was Ganked [7th]

R/

01 Sep 2009 at 23:36 - 25

About time !!!

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

01 Sep 2009 at 23:36 - 26

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Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi

Great update or Greatest update?

Sorrow's Furnace was the greatest update.

go cubs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

Chicago

[SIR]

D/

01 Sep 2009 at 23:46 - 27

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Originally Posted by Black Metal

Otherwise, it's a good sign that they are removing Kun Shao. That should mean XTH has been fixed. However, I guess they'd do the same thing if they were going to remove it entirely too.

They said it was just to be able to distribute Mays points, they have to test still to see if they can make it work every month so it will still take a while

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

01 Sep 2009 at 23:47 - 28

You can increase the transaction cost...but you cannot prevent people from syncing. If you think that the problem is "solved", you're naive.

Reduced, maybe. Depends on whether or not this code is as easily gamed as prior unannounced efforts to "fix" the problem. My guess is that it won't be, although I haven't fiddled with it to be sure.

Regardless, there will be ways. Even if the fix works as advertised, this WILL have unintended consequences that most of you won't like. Large organized groups of people WILL land multiple players in the same team via "random" selection, and the only way to beat that will be to fight fire with fire.

Betrayer of Wind

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

Brazil

Agents of Indecision[meh]

Me/

01 Sep 2009 at 23:56 - 29

RA sync wasn't a bug,it was an exploit.

RA and other formats(Jade Quary,Fort Aspenwood,Hero Battles) always attempted to form matches with players from same languages first,and then to the international matches.So it was working "as intended".

I'm relieved it was fixed,really disappointing when u get a decent group and lose close to get 1-3glad pts.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

01 Sep 2009 at 23:58 - 30

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

You can increase the transaction cost...but you cannot prevent people from syncing. If you think that the problem is "solved", you're naive.

Reduced, maybe. Depends on whether or not this code is as easily gamed as prior unannounced efforts to "fix" the problem. My guess is that it won't be, although I haven't fiddled with it to be sure.

Regardless, there will be ways. Even if the fix works as advertised, this WILL have unintended consequences that most of you won't like. Large organized groups of people WILL land multiple players in the same team via "random" selection, and the only way to beat that will be to fight fire with fire.

Or how bout A.Net just bans people that try to sync after this update for exploiting a bug since thats what A.Net called it before, "a bug".

There, Problem solved.

I Jonas I

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2008

02 Sep 2009 at 00:07 - 31

I laughed at all of the people who said that syncing RA was a problem

Idea: if you join RA in american districts, there aren't any sync teams. Whoaaaaaa crazy idea!

Haxor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Legion of the Feng Huang [ASH]

02 Sep 2009 at 00:08 - 32

There goes ID. Now everyone is forced to play with the morons from AD.

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

02 Sep 2009 at 00:15 - 33

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Originally Posted by Chrisworld

Or how bout A.Net just bans people that try to sync after this update for exploiting a bug since thats what A.Net called it before, "a bug".

There, Problem solved.

Now, you don't all have to be in the same guild to do this. Without matching tags, where's your proof? And even then, you couldn't take action without numerous repeated observations. Just because two players with the same tag and cape land in the same team doesn't mean they did it on purpose. Probable? Yes. Certain? No.

All I'm getting at is that the matching mechanic is broken, there's no true "fix", and as a result it WILL be gamed.

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

02 Sep 2009 at 00:26 - 34

RA syncing is still very possible. It appears that all they did was make it so that people from different districts join the queue at the same time.

I've been able to get 3 people from a group in consistently (which happened a lot before the sync fix anyway), and I've gotten all 4 about 3/7 times.

Sorry folks. Not much of a "fix".

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

02 Sep 2009 at 00:29 - 35

People would just sync american RA if it was so easy. It's not, there's usually too many people there. You can do it, but it's really hard to get a full team of 4 like that, as not only must your timing must be impeccable, but you also need the 1 in 4 chance of landing the start of a new team queue. On the other hand if you can RA 100+ consecutives, there may be people that will try until they get it to work.

JQ/FA are generally dead enough (luxon side) that districts never mattered. Unlike RA they were already combined and so never had this "issue", it's only syncable due to the low number of players.

Still Number One

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

W/

02 Sep 2009 at 00:37 - 36

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Originally Posted by fenix

lol, shame RA still sucks and is filled with bad players.

This. It amazes me that after 4 years people are still dumb enough to not bring res sigs (sins are the main culprit) and can't understand basic concepts like pressure, linebacking, kiting, and faking sigs so rangers can't dshot you.

Not to mention R/A's and E/Me's just dominate everything and are extremely annoying.

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

02 Sep 2009 at 00:40 - 37

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Originally Posted by Still Number One

This. It amazes me that after 4 years people are still dumb enough to not bring res sigs (sins are the main culprit) and can't understand basic concepts like pressure, linebacking, kiting, and faking sigs so rangers can't dshot you.

Not to mention R/A's and E/Me's just dominate everything and are extremely annoying.

Well this shall be interesting (the change, that is).

Either the bad players will suddenly get CONSTANTLY owned by the good RAers who usually stuck to ID, or the good ones will quit and RA will become even more of a cesspool of suck.

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

02 Sep 2009 at 00:42 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

Well this shall be interesting (the change, that is).

Either the bad players will suddenly get CONSTANTLY owned by the good RAers who usually stuck to ID, or the good ones will quit and RA will become even more of a cesspool of suck.

Considering that you can still sync (it's just a little harder now), they'll get rolled by good players AND teams.

icedwhitemocha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ancestral/Grenz

[CneX]

W/

02 Sep 2009 at 01:13 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betrayer of Wind

RA and other formats(Jade Quary,Fort Aspenwood,Hero Battles) always attempted to form matches with players from same languages first,and then to the international matches.So it was working "as intended".

Quoted for emphasis. IT WAS NEVER A BUG. I'm fairly sure I could go get a quote from Linsey's talk page where she says the same thing.

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Originally Posted by fenix

Now I'll either have to NOT play, or get a team of horrible morons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haxor

There goes ID. Now everyone is forced to play with the morons from AD.

^ My sentiments exactly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

Either the bad players will suddenly get CONSTANTLY owned by the good RAers who usually stuck to ID, or the good ones will quit and RA will become even more of a cesspool of suck.

Considering the population ratio of ad/ed to id/kd, the latter is MUCH more likely.

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

02 Sep 2009 at 01:35 - 40

it is still possible to sync ra just did a 3 man sync and we all got same team