R/A Nerf Set for Tomorrow (and probably the update)

Karate Jesus

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Linsey just responded on her talk page on wiki, and apparently the R/A nerf is happening tomorrow...which I guess means the update is tomorrow as well (no surprise there).

Here's the link: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb...ANGER_ASSASSIN (scroll to the bottom of the section).

Glad to see they're finally doing this. Escape R/D's and R/A's need to go byebye. Hopefully, they just make Escape end on attack and they don't do anything rash.

Shayne Hawke

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We've known that the skill balance was going to be tomorrow for at least a week, and we've had a pretty good sense of what's needed changing for a while now.

Xenex Xclame

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Cool, i was expecting the update this week.im happy its here tomorrow.
I might stay up just to play with new buffs.

Lets hope perma also gets hit hard.

Karate Jesus

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
We've known that the skill balance was going to be tomorrow for at least a week, and we've had a pretty good sense of what's needed changing for a while now.
Hence why I said, "no surprise there". We've all kinda known when the update would be, but you never know with Anet so it's nice to have verification.

Mylina

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Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame View Post
Lets hope perma also gets hit hard.
Don't think that nerf is here already. At PAX they told they wanted a solution which nerfed SF but also stimulated people to group for UW and other high-end areas, gl on finding that.

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slowerpoke

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I wonder how they will nerf it.

Xenex Xclame

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Originally Posted by Mylina View Post
Don't think that nerf is here already. At PAX they told they wanted a solution which nerfed SF but also stimulated people to group for UW and other high-end areas, gl on finding that.

~Mylina
Well thats messed up,..... guess i might as well give up going with my w,r,mo,d and me, and just make my sin a perma.



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I wonder how they will nerf it.
50 bucks say theyll smiter boon escape,instead of actually fix the problem.

ll Jamie ll

ll Jamie ll

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Hallelujah. About time R/A build was nerfed. Now most people without a brain won't be playing Random Areans anymore.

Another thing that needs a nerf though; is Shovespike. (well, just the skill Shove imho)

BlackSephir

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Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame View Post


50 bucks say theyll smiter boon escape,instead of actually fix the problem.
Yeah, that's what they did to Escape when all those damned R/D's were running around oh wait

wilebill

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Once that's nerfed, there will be more to nerf. Nerfing has no end until you just equip all classes with identical feather pillows and assign victory to whoever manages to play longest without going to sleep.

Summer camp pillowfight. Har.

Reformed

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Originally Posted by wilebill View Post
Once that's nerfed, there will be more to nerf. Nerfing has no end until you just equip all classes with identical feather pillows and assign victory to whoever manages to play longest without going to sleep.

Summer camp pillowfight. Har.
+1, I hate the Escape builds but I don't get all the cheerleading for nerfs. If you want a fully balanced game play Mario Paint. Of course knowing some folks around here we'd wind up with a 30 page thesis on why the airplane makes better songs than the heart.

slowerpoke

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I guess they could make expertise only apply to ranger skills
that would remove all the builds that exploit the loophole.

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Originally Posted by wilebill View Post
Once that's nerfed, there will be more to nerf. Nerfing has no end until you just equip all classes with identical feather pillows and assign victory to whoever manages to play longest without going to sleep.

Summer camp pillowfight. Har.
Funny you say that, as all the terrible metas came into play (including this one) when skills were buffed.

Winterclaw

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Is this the R/A build everyone is hoping gets nerfed?

BTW, just bring a wild strike sassi to stop escape or mirrored stance. Or a mesmer or necro.

wilebill

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Well, that is true Cake. I stand corrected.

Earth

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Glad to hear it, this meta is boring as hell.

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
Is this the R/A build everyone is hoping gets nerfed?
Yes it is.

Karate Jesus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
Is this the R/A build everyone is hoping gets nerfed?

BTW, just bring a wild strike sassi to stop escape or mirrored stance. Or a mesmer or necro.
Wild strike doesn't help if you're getting anally raped so fast that you can't use it.

But you're right about the Mesmers/Necros. Dual VoR is still lolwtf crazy evil.

jonnieboi05

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...If you want a fully balanced game play Mario Paint...
I lol'ed

On-topic: Thank god! No moar brain-dead faggotry R/As. Let's see crappy [rawr] get gold nao.



~LeNa~

Aljasha

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knowing anet's balance philosophy something else gets buffed beyond ... whatever in return.

N1ghtstalker

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nerf nerf nerf
why is everyone here on the forums nagging about nerfing?
i never hear the word buff around here which is strange
nerf flare pl0x

ArlanKels

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
Is this the R/A build everyone is hoping gets nerfed?

BTW, just bring a wild strike sassi to stop escape or mirrored stance. Or a mesmer or necro.
Man, I kill so many Rangers packing that skill build in FA it isn't funny. Why are people whining about it being unbalanced?

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Originally Posted by Reformed View Post
+1, I hate the Escape builds but I don't get all the cheerleading for nerfs. If you want a fully balanced game play Mario Paint. Of course knowing some folks around here we'd wind up with a 30 page thesis on why the airplane makes better songs than the heart.
yes, someone probably would, if they were interested in playing mario paint competitively. an accurate, well-distributed 30-page thesis would help increase the level of high level competition, making the game more fun.
also the cheerleading for nerfs exists because power creep makes the game more about which overpowered skills you run instead of how you play the game. less powerful skills require more decision making and lead to a more interesting game (from a pvp standpoint. pve is about feeling like a god and should have more powerful skills with laser beam animations and explosions).

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker View Post
nerf nerf nerf
why is everyone here on the forums nagging about nerfing?
i never hear the word buff around here which is strange
nerf flare pl0x
Buffs are what caused this mess in the first place.

The past few times anet has ever buffed stuff it's been bad for the game.

So yeah that's why noone asks for buffs.

subarucar

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Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame View Post
50 bucks say theyll smiter boon escape,instead of actually fix the problem.
That was an Izzy thing, he hated smiters.

@ArlanKels - Most people in FA don't know how to play, they attack through empathy, they eat diversion every time, etc, etc. Whats good and bad in FA is not a good measure of game balance.

@N1ghtstalker - If you have been on these forums any reasonable amount of time you would realise the many threads made by people who want certain skills buffed.

ll Jamie ll

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Originally Posted by ArlanKels View Post
Man, I kill so many Rangers packing that skill build in FA it isn't funny. Why are people whining about it being unbalanced?
I see what you did there.

No really, they are easy to kill with the right build i agree with that. I heard diversion was a non elite btw. Yes.
But also... :breath: they are annoying with the wrong build.

N1ghtstalker

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Originally Posted by fowlero View Post
Buffs are what caused this mess in the first place.

The past few times anet has ever buffed stuff it's been bad for the game.

So yeah that's why noone asks for buffs.
and nerfing made the crying go away?
half of anet's nerfs are just plain stupid and other just destroy the skill so it won't be used ever again e.g. smiters boon

lord of all tyria

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker View Post
nerf nerf nerf
why is everyone here on the forums nagging about nerfing?
i never hear the word buff around here which is strange
nerf flare pl0x
Because a-net's fixation on buffs rather than nerfs has created some of the most horrible meta-games in GW.

fowlero

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker View Post
and nerfing made the crying go away?
half of anet's nerfs are just plain stupid and other just destroy the skill so it won't be used ever again e.g. smiters boon
They haven't done much nerfing, so no the crying hasnt gone away. (VoR primal LC WoH patient etc).

If it creates a better game, smiters boon away.

Bug John

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Another thing that needs a nerf though; is Shovespike. (well, just the skill Shove imho)
deleting ta will make that shit build disappear forever (if ra sync doesn't turn into the new ta...)

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Buffs are what caused this mess in the first place.
there's a difference between a buff and a game breaking buff, although Izzy fails to see it

keli

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Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker View Post
nerf nerf nerf
why is everyone here on the forums nagging about nerfing?
i never hear the word buff around here which is strange
nerf flare pl0x
have you ever heard of positive feedback?

this is what we dont want..

Stranger The Ranger

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Great, I hope they'll just revert the dagger buffs :>

I also hope they wont forget about Mind Blast this time >.>

The Arching Healer

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They will lengthen the recharge of death blossom. Another useless solution. Buff jagged, fox and nerf a completely other skill. GG anet!

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Originally Posted by ArlanKels View Post
Man, I kill so many Rangers packing that skill build in FA it isn't funny. Why are people whining about it being unbalanced?

Because you don't understand GvG. FA is not pvp its pve...


Now a serious question to myself. Why am I arguing with PvE players who think they understand and good at PvP? I am an idiot I know

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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05 View Post
I lol'ed

On-topic: Thank god! No moar brain-dead faggotry R/As. Let's see crappy [rawr] get gold nao.



~LeNa~
Yeah you go show rawr how it's done champ. Smilies usually follow retarded posts.

Anyway is tomorrow's build the big one or just regular?

ll Jamie ll

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Keep it chilled all.

And to the above^, i think it's just a regular skill update, but someone correct me if im wrong.

Krill

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Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker View Post
nerf nerf nerf
why is everyone here on the forums nagging about nerfing?
i never hear the word buff around here which is strange
nerf flare pl0x
Consider never posting again.

I'm glad this (R/A's) is going to be taken care, hopefully decisively without the template still being viable in one fashion or another. Unfortunately these types of metas seem to have a permanent negative impact on the remaining PvP player base, i.e. players having their "last straw" moment and quitting for good. Guess we'll see what happens with a whopping nine days until mAT.

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Originally Posted by The Arching Healer View Post
They will lengthen the recharge of death blossom. Another useless solution. Buff jagged, fox and nerf a completely other skill. GG anet!
I was going to post something exactly the same but my god man here has beat me to it.

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Glad to hear it, this meta is boring as hell.



Yes it is.
Here's to hoping that come tomorrow things aren't just nerfed, we always can use random buffs which led to the R/A in the first place. Only in 2009/2010 we won't see game balance updates for 2 months at a time, that has already been disclosed the last time I read regarding DEV comments and upcoming changes.

Oh the days back in '05, '06 when if an update was released and was found to be broken or resulted in a hindrance regarding gameplay balance, the next day it was altered.

Mikelenn

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ll Jamie ll View Post
Hallelujah. About time R/A build was nerfed. Now most people without a brain won't be playing Random Areans anymore.

Another thing that needs a nerf though; is Shovespike. (well, just the skill Shove imho)
Whats the point in nerfing shove lol, TA wont exist very very soon .

Karate Jesus

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Originally Posted by ArlanKels View Post
Man, I kill so many Rangers packing that skill build in FA it isn't funny. Why are people whining about it being unbalanced?
Because some people play GvG and HA and not lamer arenas like FA :/