Yesterday I was hawking for a Halves casting time 20% for an offhand I have and some dude came back with 40k real quickly over PM. lol 40k? Are you kidding me? Plus the cost of some of these items in the 100's of ectos?? Why pay that for some silly looking skin? You can buy a perfect anything from a weapon smith, slap a couple of mods on it and wallah you have a perfect weapon just the same as some 800 ecto item. I guess that is the status symbol of leetness in this game since it really has no power elements or anything of any significant value other than vanity. Someone got a super claw of leetness looks so they are better than you syndrome?? lol
Titles appear about the same there's only really a handful worth going after: Treasure hunter, Wisdom, Lucky I guess, Sunspear/Lightbringer, one of the two Faction ones Kurzick or Luxon and then the GWEN faction titles for Norn, Asura and Human? Only those that benefit actual skills used and improve treasure hunting skills and less breakage of keys are worth going after. I just don't see wasting time or money going after drunkard, survivor, sweet-tooth, tinkerbell in tights or any of those other senseless childish titles. If all titles gave some advantage within the game then I could see going after them. But, there are so few that do.
I don't see the value in items
QueenofDeath
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And thats why those items have value cuz ppl want them cuz they are leet-looking and are rare or hard to obtain.
Although really I agree that most things in GW arent worth spending much money on as u can get by on just a average weapon with the same stat. For my opinion Titles and anything going into the HoM are worth the money. Although I do occassionally splurge on other stuff just because.
Although really I agree that most things in GW arent worth spending much money on as u can get by on just a average weapon with the same stat. For my opinion Titles and anything going into the HoM are worth the money. Although I do occassionally splurge on other stuff just because.
the Puppeteer
ok, how nice for you
now let me get back to my WTS uber rare items for hoards of ectos
now let me get back to my WTS uber rare items for hoards of ectos
Yelling @ Cats
Yeah, I've always found it really stupid. Especially Crystalline Sword...it's ugly as my ass.
It always amuses me though...nine times out of ten, when someone buys expensive armor, they will dye it black. I've actually had people in game say "lol you are bad, why is your armor green?".
It always amuses me though...nine times out of ten, when someone buys expensive armor, they will dye it black. I've actually had people in game say "lol you are bad, why is your armor green?".
Kook~NBK~
It's all about the bling. Those rare weapons, for the most part, are nothing more than status symbols. It doesn't matter how ugly or silly looking (Voltaic Spears), the thing is, if it's hard to come by, people will want it.
As for titles, they're time killers. They give lots of players who would have left the game long ago a reason to stick around. The only true value they have (in PvE, anyway) is in the eye of the title holder, as he/she is the only one that knows how they got their titles (Did they get that LS by running Kilroys? Or did they get it by playing through the game and taking on bosses to capture their elites?)
As for titles, they're time killers. They give lots of players who would have left the game long ago a reason to stick around. The only true value they have (in PvE, anyway) is in the eye of the title holder, as he/she is the only one that knows how they got their titles (Did they get that LS by running Kilroys? Or did they get it by playing through the game and taking on bosses to capture their elites?)
Shakkara
Most titles and elite armors do give a long-term benefit: They can be stored in your HOM and thus carry over to GW2 in some way.
It's a shame that we can't store more cool weapons in there though, I really like the looks of the Celestial weapons set, most Tormented and Destroyer weapons are just ugly IMO.
GW was designed not to be grind though, thus there isn't much of a power gap between newer players and the ones that have it all. It's about skill, not about grind. Then again with the EOTN titles that kinda changed, but I suppose that was done on purpose to keep people occupied till GW2.
It's a shame that we can't store more cool weapons in there though, I really like the looks of the Celestial weapons set, most Tormented and Destroyer weapons are just ugly IMO.
GW was designed not to be grind though, thus there isn't much of a power gap between newer players and the ones that have it all. It's about skill, not about grind. Then again with the EOTN titles that kinda changed, but I suppose that was done on purpose to keep people occupied till GW2.
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I agree with OP entirely.
It gives quite a bad impression for the newcomers. As if the only purpose of the game were grind for titles and some leet looking gear. Now when I am looking after a weapon I make sure it is not one of those "special" ones so I do not have to overpay for rarity/skin or whatever and spent money elsewhere.
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Same here. I hardly see obby dyed with a different colour.
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i have obby armour, which aint dyed black. but i never wear it nowadays just got it for the HoM. (what a waste imo)
Halves casting time 20% for an offhand? 40k WTH u serious i know forget me not are about 20k.
refer
This is why I don't care about gold or items. I don't get why anybody would want to waste so much time/money on just looks... it's not like you're getting anything out of it. Titles and playing PvE with another character is another thing too.
It is. Why do you think people get angry when people talk about nerfing SC or solo farming?
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Yesterday I was hawking for a Halves casting time 20% for an offhand I have and some dude came back with 40k real quickly over PM. lol 40k? Are you kidding me? Plus the cost of some of these items in the 100's of ectos?? Why pay that for some silly looking skin? You can buy a perfect anything from a weapon smith, slap a couple of mods on it and wallah you have a perfect weapon just the same as some 800 ecto item. I guess that is the status symbol of leetness in this game since it really has no power elements or anything of any significant value other than vanity. Someone got a super claw of leetness looks so they are better than you syndrome?? lol
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Much like real life with antiquity items that cost a lot, yeah why pay so much when you can get a cheap copy? In GW it's pretty much the same reason: collectors
And if I got it right, someone asked you 40k for the mod? 40k is too much for a mod that's worth only 3-4k.
Tijger
I just sold a shield thats been sitting in my storage for nearly 3 years and that I'd almost given away on several occasions for 750e, yes, 750 ecto's.
It was a nice shield, Echovald req 8, but did I ever in my wildest dreams expect it would fetch that much? Hell no. I was hoping for 100K actually
Do I have any idea why anyone wanted to pay that much? Not really no, I assume he/she collected shield of that type and wanted it for that reason and he/she had the ecto's to afford it. Yes, its rare to find a perfect one with req 8 but still, its an awful lot to pay for it.
Collectors go to great lengths to obtain what they desire, this is a prime example of it.
It was a nice shield, Echovald req 8, but did I ever in my wildest dreams expect it would fetch that much? Hell no. I was hoping for 100K actually
Do I have any idea why anyone wanted to pay that much? Not really no, I assume he/she collected shield of that type and wanted it for that reason and he/she had the ecto's to afford it. Yes, its rare to find a perfect one with req 8 but still, its an awful lot to pay for it.
Collectors go to great lengths to obtain what they desire, this is a prime example of it.
Ccat
Surprised OP didn't mention Minipets.
I just bought a 1000k minipet! What does it do? Absolutely nothing!
The market in GW is entirely based around Trivia.
I just bought a 1000k minipet! What does it do? Absolutely nothing!
The market in GW is entirely based around Trivia.
Kattar
Hi, welcome to Guild Wars and Massively Multiplayer Online Games!
Um, no? It's based on item rarity.
ITT: People who have no idea what they're talking about.
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ITT: People who have no idea what they're talking about.
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I'm guilty of it myself, I just love the Draconic Aegis so I bought one, it wasnt any better than my old shield, I just wanted the skin. So, I paid 100K +xx for the priviledge.
But then, who am I to gainsay someone for wanting skin X or Y if they are willing to pay for it. If someone has fun collecting then more power to them, it keeps the economy in GW going
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Yesterday I was hawking for a Halves casting time 20% for an offhand I have and some dude came back with 40k real quickly over PM. lol 40k? Are you kidding me? Plus the cost of some of these items in the 100's of ectos?? Why pay that for some silly looking skin? You can buy a perfect anything from a weapon smith, slap a couple of mods on it and wallah you have a perfect weapon just the same as some 800 ecto item. I guess that is the status symbol of leetness in this game since it really has no power elements or anything of any significant value other than vanity. Someone got a super claw of leetness looks so they are better than you syndrome?? lol
Titles appear about the same there's only really a handful worth going after: Treasure hunter, Wisdom, Lucky I guess, Sunspear/Lightbringer, one of the two Faction ones Kurzick or Luxon and then the GWEN faction titles for Norn, Asura and Human? Only those that benefit actual skills used and improve treasure hunting skills and less breakage of keys are worth going after. I just don't see wasting time or money going after drunkard, survivor, sweet-tooth, tinkerbell in tights or any of those other senseless childish titles. If all titles gave some advantage within the game then I could see going after them. But, there are so few that do. |
.People want to be better then others. People want to have the things they can't get. People want to have stuff to show they have something others dont.
All these things give status. Status is power. Power is... the goal of life.
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Look at the BDS
Most overfarmed shit in the game, kamadan is full of them, they are everywhere and everyone has one. It's become the most farmed and most common item.
What are the prices on that? Oh wait...!
pinguinius
People just buy the most expensive things, no matter how gaudy it looks. I don't understand it either. I guess its because you can't argue over how to best min/max your gear in GW, people have to redirect their epeens into graphics.
For me, a lot of the "boring" skins look the best, like embossed scythes or vabbian tower shields. Also monks dyeing everything black baffles me; monks are about purity and healing, whites and blues.
For me, a lot of the "boring" skins look the best, like embossed scythes or vabbian tower shields. Also monks dyeing everything black baffles me; monks are about purity and healing, whites and blues.
wilderness
Honestly, the OPs post harks of the same superiority complex that he's attaching to those interested in high-end goods and he's written it like it's some kind of profound wisdom. It's a little silly.
Simple fact: people like a sense of achievement with their online gaming, and rare items and max titles provide this. For those not interested in the Pvp metagame, these are some of the things that PvE players can work toward.
Of course, anyone who considers themselves better simply for owning a rarer item or title is just as much a wally as the OP.
And please don't reply to this like you have an actual point against me, or I'll smack you upside the head with my:
Mmmkay, scrubs?
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Have you tried to farm one? The reason they're expensive is because the drop rate is extraordinarily low.
Now, you might see 100 separate 'wts BDS' instances, but there are x10 that amount of people who want one. Supply and Demand, hence the high price.
And obtaining the 100e+ you need for one, especially at this point in the game, is a very easy task. There's really no need to complain.
Simple fact: people like a sense of achievement with their online gaming, and rare items and max titles provide this. For those not interested in the Pvp metagame, these are some of the things that PvE players can work toward.
Of course, anyone who considers themselves better simply for owning a rarer item or title is just as much a wally as the OP.
And please don't reply to this like you have an actual point against me, or I'll smack you upside the head with my:
Mmmkay, scrubs?
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That's ironic cause you're 100% WRONG.
Look at the BDS Most overfarmed shit in the game, kamadan is full of them, they are everywhere and everyone has one. It's become the most farmed and most common item. What are the prices on that? Oh wait...! |
Now, you might see 100 separate 'wts BDS' instances, but there are x10 that amount of people who want one. Supply and Demand, hence the high price.
And obtaining the 100e+ you need for one, especially at this point in the game, is a very easy task. There's really no need to complain.
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Also, what wilderness said. Most I've sold one of those mods the OP mentioned for is 20k. They've gotten more rare since then though.
wilderness
25k is standard for Forget Me Nots. And with 19% available commonly for a few k each, there's no real disadvantage for players unable to afford the higher price of the rarer perfect inscription.
Once again, Supply and Demand.
I've IDed over 500 Unidents in the last week, and I've not found a single Forget Me Not. If I wanted one quickly, then 25k Vs. 500 IDs with no find is a very reasonable trade-off.
Once again, Supply and Demand.
I've IDed over 500 Unidents in the last week, and I've not found a single Forget Me Not. If I wanted one quickly, then 25k Vs. 500 IDs with no find is a very reasonable trade-off.
King_GhOsT
I use to think like this too... that paying for nicer things is stupid when you can craft a shiitty weapon and armor that are just as good as the expensive ones. but after 2 years of looking at shitty armor and weapons, you get tired of looking at them and you want nice things (especially when you have completed this game over and over again ,you will start caring more about looks/items more then the game play itself)
When you have 100s of ectos, why not spend it on nice things? if your poor,well thats different, but if your poor in this game... your doing something wrong
When you have 100s of ectos, why not spend it on nice things? if your poor,well thats different, but if your poor in this game... your doing something wrong
Axeman002
heres an example of rare...Q9 20/20 curses platinum staff non insc..most will think its merch fodder...but to collectors..that item will light there eyes up...i let u figure out why.
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Titles appear about the same there's only really a handful worth going after: Treasure hunter, Wisdom, Lucky I guess, Sunspear/Lightbringer, one of the two Faction ones Kurzick or Luxon and then the GWEN faction titles for Norn, Asura and Human? Only those that benefit actual skills used and improve treasure hunting skills and less breakage of keys are worth going after. I just don't see wasting time or money going after drunkard, survivor, sweet-tooth, tinkerbell in tights or any of those other senseless childish titles. If all titles gave some advantage within the game then I could see going after them. But, there are so few that do.
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heres an example of rare...Q9 20/20 curses platinum staff non insc..most will think its merch fodder...but to collectors..that item will light there eyes up...i let u figure out why.
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I know this seems like pointless bickering (that's because it is!) but come on, people...
kazjun
Question is, why not? If he can afford it, he can spend money however he wants. If its money that matters, why even go to a crafter and stick mods in it. A green is way cheaper than the 5k + mats crafters charge, and you could even get most items free from collectors. Think plenty of collectors that give out 20/20 items for example. Go farm 5 items and get item free.
But after 4 years, you should have unlocked all the skills you wanted, got plenty of armours and runed out your heroes. What do you do with your money then?
Sit around and buy sweets/alco/party points? Titles which other people may never notice? Not unless you're going for GWAMM. Or you could buy that big @ss BDS which is pretty hard to miss. Pretty much any giant weapon (even better if its animated) and not too common is pretty good to show off and people can see it.
Same with obby armour. Why spend all the ectos and shards on that when you could get a full suit of max (though unelite) armour for about 10k. Its for the show value. Thats human nature. And that there's not really much to spend money on other than weapons and armour in game.
But after 4 years, you should have unlocked all the skills you wanted, got plenty of armours and runed out your heroes. What do you do with your money then?
Sit around and buy sweets/alco/party points? Titles which other people may never notice? Not unless you're going for GWAMM. Or you could buy that big @ss BDS which is pretty hard to miss. Pretty much any giant weapon (even better if its animated) and not too common is pretty good to show off and people can see it.
Same with obby armour. Why spend all the ectos and shards on that when you could get a full suit of max (though unelite) armour for about 10k. Its for the show value. Thats human nature. And that there's not really much to spend money on other than weapons and armour in game.
Shadowhaze
I've noticed a lot of mod/insc prices shooting up recently, well at least people trying to sell them high. No idea if they do.
But yeah, some people have played a lot/farm to insanity (
), have hordes of money to burn and spend it on novelties. Personally I think a lot of the considered high end stuff looks pretty ugly (BDS, Frog Sceptor, Obby armor for most professions, etc.). There are some things I like though (Crystalline, Emerald Blade, Voltaic Spear, certain minis, etc). People like different things, so they'll buy what they like/think looks nice. 
But yeah, some people have played a lot/farm to insanity (
), have hordes of money to burn and spend it on novelties. Personally I think a lot of the considered high end stuff looks pretty ugly (BDS, Frog Sceptor, Obby armor for most professions, etc.). There are some things I like though (Crystalline, Emerald Blade, Voltaic Spear, certain minis, etc). People like different things, so they'll buy what they like/think looks nice.
fowlero
What else is there to spend money on once you have all armours you want.
And don't say titles.
And don't say titles.
notskorn
Its all about vanity. The same as any MMO really...
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Why would anyone consider a low req, functionaly perfect, rare skinned, and - generally considered - gorgeous skinned staff merch fodder?
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Martin Alvito
The skin is very commonly found inscribable thanks to EotN, but a 20/20 uninscribable Platinum Staff is very rare. They don't drop often, drop only in Factions, frequently drop 19% and when they DO drop 20/20 the mod and req never match.
Axeman002
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The skin is very commonly found inscribable thanks to EotN, but a 20/20 uninscribable Platinum Staff is very rare. They don't drop often, drop only in Factions, frequently drop 19% and when they DO drop 20/20 the mod and req never match.
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hope this clears up why items are called rares.
wilderness
Exactly, Martin, I obviously meant rare skinned in the context of a perfect inherent version.
Also, Axeman, you're making some very trite points in the guise of some kind of cutting insight. If you're going to give the banter, at least back it up with some decently made points.
Awful attempt at deflection there, too. I'd suggest you stop trying.
Also, Axeman, you're making some very trite points in the guise of some kind of cutting insight. If you're going to give the banter, at least back it up with some decently made points.
Awful attempt at deflection there, too. I'd suggest you stop trying.
Saph
Like what has been mentioned before, its supply and demand, plus the 'cool' factor. What better way to stick out among the mass of people than with shiney armor and rare and expensive weapons?
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It always amuses me though...nine times out of ten, when someone buys expensive armor, they will dye it black.
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They should sack the guy who invented dye combinations.
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close...but ill put you out your misery, the staff is curses..platinum staffs come in primary attributes like soul reaping/divine favor etc...so a q9 perfect stat non insc will make a collectors eyeballs roll out...that's why items that are rare...are expensive as there is very few...i know of only 1 and they guy got banned for using a G11 keyboard. so now i know of 0 in game lol.
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Had an Earth Platinum Staff drop from those Jade-bandit guys in Kaineng.
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Yeah, I've always found it really stupid. Especially Crystalline Sword...it's ugly as my ass.
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That is what I don't get. Black makes most of the armor look very bad. Or so dark you can't see anything of it so whats the point.
Same with Obby armor most of it looks eww. I go after some weapons but it is rather pointless when no one can see them in towns.
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There's actually a simple reason for that. The dye system SUCKS. Many of my armors are dyed black or white, because any other color just looks disgusting (unless we're talking about a single dye, which is utterly boring...)!
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