Guilds and drugs

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

A topic I'm sure long-time players probably found themselves in multiple times.
Ever join a guild before and then watch as they make a whole conversation about drugs? <_<
Just wondering what people think whenever they get in a situation like this?

Me? Normally I tolerate it usually, but I don't support it whatsoever and I'm very clear on that. If it's just guild members, it can't be prevented anyways.
Though if it reaches a point where even an officer or leader is involved, I usually just *facepalm* and leave.
I find being around people of low standards is a huge turnoff from playing with them. Even if they're the best Guild in the game. Being around your "group of people" you get along with should be integral for when you're part of a guild, otherwise membership is a waste. It isn't a right or wrong per se, but more of an incompatibility.

By the way, by drugs I don't mean tobacco, alcohol, or weed. I mean "da true shit"

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

I mute them on vent or place them on the ignore list. Even if guildies.

Really lame having to hear stuff like that. Where's that GW pet peeve thread when you need it.

Narcissia

Narcissia

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

BC Canada

Guild With No [NAM???]

yes, but i think what people do outside of the game is their own business.
if it bothers you, ignore it/turn off chat/leave vent/whatever if it bothers you. don't rage/lecture/leave the guild/refuse to play with them over it.

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

Why do you care?
Who decides what "low standards" are?

ps. Alcohol is a harddrug.

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

I've never had a guild talk about anything worse than mushrooms. If they started talking about anything worse, then I'd leave. Imo, anything beyond mushrooms shouldn't be supported.

I actually enjoy talking with my guilds about weed and alcohol. It's not all I talk about, but it leads to some funny/interesting conversations.

But if someone has a problem with those topics, it's probably worth it to leave, and join one of those thousand of Christian Alliances I see all the time in Kamadan.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by deluxe View Post
Why do you care?
Who decides what "low standards" are?

ps. Alcohol is a harddrug.
Personal judgment, as well as many other factors. Though I don't think bringing up government, law, and morale-related topics are necessary for this thread.
And I care because being part of a guild with those against your morales is rather pointless, there for, a reason to leave.

There. Question answered.

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

Some time, when you grow up into a big boy, you will learn that the DARE officers that come into your 5th grade classroom aren't entirely truthful with you. Grown men and women can enjoy taking drugs from time to time, responsibly, not as an often occurrence, but as social recreation, and not become INSTANTLY dependent on them and not have it ruin their lives completely!

Which undoubtedly make for good times and good stories, a conversation that should not by any means fall upon sensitive wittle carebear ears. So you should absolutely leave that guild, that i'll agree with.

But all this knowledge comes in time, young chap. Look at me, i'm all giving life lessons on guild wars and stuff. I'm sure if you look, there's TONS of carebear guilds that will cater to your needs and talk about sunshine and rainbows day in and day out, so you can be a happy little camper and be jolly.

IronSheik

IronSheik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Wolfenstein: Goldrush

Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom]

N/

I just turn off whatever medium I am communicating with them on, unless it is static, then I blow those mofos up and go RED ENGINE YEAH!, SEAKING!

Gennadios

Gennadios

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/A

Easy. my alliance doesn't allow that s*** in AC.

That and we have an age requirement.

Hasn't been a problem as far back as I remember.

Divine Ashes

Divine Ashes

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chicago

LFG

R/

If it's in guild chat or alliance chat, and you are aware you have impressionable young people in the guild, then I would tell them to stfu. If not, I would just say "to each his own" and let them do their thing. It's not like I have to deal with them and their druggie ways irl..

Lux Aeterna

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2009

RAH

Close Enough [XVII]

W/A

Personally I gleefully join the discussion, happy to find others as cool as myself.

Saph

Saph

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2009

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz View Post
Personal judgment.....
And who gave you the right to judge others based on what they do?

If someone wants to spark a conversation regarding a topic you aren't comfortable with, then kindly ask them to change the subject and if they don't turn GC/AC off for a bit and let the topic die down. Honestly, its not hurting you if someone is discussing something you aren't comfortable with. Nor are they in your living room doing drugs, so why should you care? If you feel the need to leave your guild based on a conversation others are having, then well, that's your choice, but don't act like you were forced to make that decision. Other than that, you should remember to live and let live, to each his own, etc etc.

obsidian ectoplasm

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

I find it interesting to hear people talking about such subjects.

Silverhand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Virtual Benchwarmers [VB]

Well it's someone else's personal choice for their own life so I don't see how it should really matter to you

no one is forcing you to start doing drugs so you should just ignore it or leave if even bringing up that subject offends you

honestly though there are plenty of people who do drugs in the world so you are bound to be around them at some point.

Just learn how to handle the situation or leave
not everyone is going to fit your view of the "right" people so you just have to deal with it or go somewhere else

Jensy

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

Yeaaaaaah... not a problem in my guild/alliance. I suppose I wouldn't care so much in this case. The only thing that'd really make me tick off GC/AC is excessive moron/text speak.

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

...how do you ever expect to survive in the real world when you're struggling to cope socially in an online video game? HONESTLY...

Kenzo Skunk

Kenzo Skunk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

Change the guild if it bothers you. I`ve never had that kind of problems in any guild i`ve been in. Understand this - games attract all kinds of ppl. Some of them are escapists from reality, and drugs are just another way of doing it.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

We don't usually talk drugs.
Well, outside of the occasional Rohypnol use to score some 10 year old ass.
Of course we'd LOVE to talk more, but parents these days just don't leave their kids alone with priests anymore!
What the hell is up with THAT!??!?!

David_Belgae

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2009

Belgium!

Guildless

Me/

That's why I am guildless. (Not really, but it's one of the positive points if you look at it that way.)

Only thing I can say: deal with it in your own way.

But deal with it. It's life.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

People in Reversed Insanity can talk about whatever the redengine they want to.

Sadly, there is only me, one person, and one afk person.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenzo Skunk View Post
Change the guild if it bothers you. I`ve never had that kind of problems in any guild i`ve been in. Understand this - games attract all kinds of ppl. Some of them are escapists from reality, and drugs are just another way of doing it.
Ok.. I`m seriously wondering this...
Why are people treating this as a complaint thread, asking for advice?

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

Like several other guilds/alliances on here - drugs isnt a problem as noone actually talks about them , we only have the odd mention of alcho which is usually along lines of "im grabbing a beer ".
To us drugs is something to do with real life and is personal so is left out of local chat - gw is fantasy so drugs have no place ( tho makes you wonder if norns are on steroids and asurans on lsd :P )

dunky_g

dunky_g

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[SNOW]

to be honest, its prob just some little 12 year old kids trying to make themselves look 'cool'.

stanzhao

stanzhao

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

its just down to your personal tastes in life. some people dont like drinking. some people dont like smoking. some people dont like drugs. some people dont like religeon.

it doesnt matter what the subject is. weather its illegal or not, if you dont like it, you dont like it, end of story. there is no argument here.

as mentioned above, you have those christain alliances, which i would never ever join. because i know i wont like it. if your guild is talking about a subject that you dont like, and it happens a lot, then its obviously not a guild your going to enjoy yourself in. because you dont have as much common ground as the rest of the members.

this doesnt just mean drugs. it can mean any topic, any walk of life. i'm suprised you even made a topic about it, when it just needs a little common sense used really.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
People in Reversed Insanity can talk about whatever the redengine they want to.

Sadly, there is only me, one person, and one afk person.
maybe you should try this guild...

Daenara

Daenara

Bad Romance

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Grand Matron

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dunky_g View Post
to be honest, its prob just some little 12 year old kids trying to make themselves look 'cool'.
I agree completely! Most of the people I know/have known that take/have taken drugs don't feel the need to talk about it with randoms from the internet. The ones which are like "Yeah, I'm going to go home and pop an e after this" are either lying, or have big security and confidence issues and feel as though talking about it makes them cooler.

People have the right to converse about whatever they like, regardless of how retarded it may make them look.

Wolf2581

Wolf2581

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Joliet, IL, USA

Hardcore Militants United [HMU]

Me/

Much of what I read in chat throughout the game I perceive as the results of attention whoring, playing grown-up, and/or undiagnosed mental retardation. In particular, discussing drugs usually fits into the first category, but my guild and alliance members tend to be more mature than that.

wilderness

wilderness

tinyurl.com/6hqar7a

Join Date: Mar 2006

We Couldn't Figure Out A Name [LMAO]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saph View Post
And who gave you the right to judge others based on what they do?
He is his own person with his own morals and ideals and is completely free to judge others as not suitable for further interactions based on these preferences. We all do this every day in micro-amounts, and to claim to be above it is to claim to be more than human.

I'm not saying I agree with the dude, it the decision to leave or ostracise is made purely based on the recreational preferences of a few (regardless of legality) then I'd call him shallow and a little too righteous. You can converse about drug use without it being low-brow and detrimental to the whole.

To look down on all drug users as mindless idiots and lesser than is a very naive and ignorant way of existing.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

meh, join a guild then that upholds rules like no cursing, no this, no that and stuff then :P. you know, one that has to censor everything because they have young children who are oh so sensitive >_<. people are going to talk about whatever they want to talk about, it is pointless and a waste of effort to let it bother you.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Man, you guys should try being in a guild with Arkantos sometime. He's such a poser.

DreamRunner

DreamRunner

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz View Post
Though if it reaches a point where even an officer or leader is involved, I usually just *facepalm* and leave.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz View Post
Personal judgment, as well as many other factors. Though I don't think bringing up government, law, and morale-related topics are necessary for this thread.
And I care because being part of a guild with those against your morales is rather pointless, there for, a reason to leave.
Lol, I love it. You claim Law, government and morale-related topics aren't necessary, yet these areas clearly factor into your own personal judgment.

I am curious why a talk on drugs by an officer or leader makes you facepalm? By just being against drugs, you are essentially using your own ethics and values against the people which you said isn't necessary for this topic.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilderness View Post
To look down on all drug users as mindless idiots and lesser than is a very naive and ignorant way of existing.
Everyone uses drugs all the time, its just that people who are sucked into the ignorance and naive thinking, don't know about how many die from prescribed drugs.

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

Discussing drugs is dumb in your opinion. Yet you think to discuss the discussing of drugs is a completely valid reason to open a thread on a game forum.

You lost me there.

wilderness

wilderness

tinyurl.com/6hqar7a

Join Date: Mar 2006

We Couldn't Figure Out A Name [LMAO]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamRunner View Post
Everyone uses drugs all the time, its just that people who are sucked into the ignorance and naive thinking, don't know about how many die from prescribed drugs.
We're talking about recreational drug use: Cocaine, Ecstasy, and the harder stuff. Addicts and abusers will always be worth avoiding as best you can, but not everyone who uses recreational drugs is a seething moron with anti-social tendencies.

??iljo

??iljo

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

People talk about everything, if u think u support drugs if you talk about them , thats wrong.

If you don't wanna talk about a certain subject,say ur not interested, go off vent or dont play with those ppl again if it bothers u so much.

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

I don't think I've ever been on vent or reading guild chat when a guildie is tripping on something harder than alcohol or weed. That said, I've heard stories alluding to previous experiences with drugs, and I have to say I don't mind it that much. Heck, a lot of the time, some really great stories are told.

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

I have a few friends who have done/do drugs. I know they would never talk about it over the internet (they are big MMO players). So, it's probably just little kids trying to make themselves sound cool.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

GW supports illicit drug use bro. Just remember that next time you see a Pile of Glittering Dust or Plant Fiber on the ground.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamRunner View Post
Lol, I love it. You claim Law, government and morale-related topics aren't necessary, yet these areas clearly factor into your own personal judgment.

I am curious why a talk on drugs by an officer or leader makes you facepalm? By just being against drugs, you are essentially using your own ethics and values against the people which you said isn't necessary for this topic.



Everyone uses drugs all the time, its just that people who are sucked into the ignorance and naive thinking, don't know about how many die from prescribed drugs.
Nice attack post, bro

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverhand View Post
Well it's someone else's personal choice for their own life so I don't see how it should really matter to you

no one is forcing you to start doing drugs so you should just ignore it or leave if even bringing up that subject offends you

honestly though there are plenty of people who do drugs in the world so you are bound to be around them at some point.
Murder, rape, etc. is a choice and really shouldn't matter to you. Nobody is forcing you to do such. Plenty of people kill and rape in the world and you're bound to be around them at some point. Perfectly normal.

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

there are some nice 'christian' guilds out there. join one OP.

the jonas brothers RAWK!!!!

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcissia View Post
yes, but i think what people do outside of the game is their own business.
In which case they shouldn't bring it into the game, or guild chat.

As for the OP, I haven't been in that situation. I'd probably just ignore it.