Last (?) Halloween Quest

Coney

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

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Originally Posted by Reflect View Post
1st fail:The Quest was supposed for halloween, not week after that.
2nd fail:No Literal mentioning that the npc will be removed, before we can do its quest..it should have be announced with the update.
3rd fail:Anet refuse to say they made a mistake and learn from it.
QFT.

4th fail: 5 days later quest is gone, and apparently still can't be completed?!?

LOL, this, in combination with their XTH fail, is going to piss off a lot of long-time gameplayers. Don't they even give a SH!T?

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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Come on people is a single quest being late, and the loss of a few plat and some ToT bags really worth looking like a bunch of sniveling children?
Oh wait, sorry forgot whom I was talking to.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert View Post
News flash for you

I GOT THE QUEST, I AM ALRIGHT

Why is the community turning so damned selfish, why can't anyone think about anything but themselves for once? Why can't you get it that the VAST majority of players simply play the game and doesn't have time to follow the wiki/forums. How does a NORMAL player get to find out about this. This was a Haloween quest that didn't appear until after the event had ended and was then removed shortly afterwards.

Why can't you get this? Too damned selfish is why.
I agree with this as most of my guild never heard of the halloween quest before I told them about it. Why should people who never been on guru or wiki be forced to dig through posts to find out what's going on when anet can just use their announcement tab?

This was pretty poor for communication on Anet's part. Though the reward isn't that big of a deal, the people who missed it can't do the quest until next halloween so they miss out on the action.

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

Drunkard, the irony of it all is this: Anet stated that this quest chain will be this year only, so there won't be a do-over next year. And Anet has locked many people out of the finale because of their inability to effectively communicate (Lyndsey, I hope you realize that flowery post a few months ago about better communication is about as far from the truth as it gets). So all this time they are spending fixing it will be for naught for the majority of players, since they have locked them out of it with this insane hide and seek quest.

Coney

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Drunkard View Post
... anet can just use their announcement tab?

This was pretty poor for communication on Anet's part.
No DUH. I guess you have to daily read some jackasses personal status page (WhoeverTF she is - communication guru?).
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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon View Post
The quest giver disappeared and had to be be put back into the game to even get the last quest AND the last quest did not require the previous quests to be done to get.
Totally agree - BUGGED.
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Originally Posted by Hyperventilate View Post
Plus, I'm rather enjoying the QQage.

Patience is a virtue, ...
Patience has absolutely NOTHING to do with it - the quest was bugged (non-sequential requirement GONE), and is now GONE. Whether it ever kicks in is totally irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by Tramp View Post
I think the waiting game is really to see what uwsc builds come out to counter the skeletons.
I highly doubt it. Within 24 hours, there was a 7-8 player ASSN speed-clear (WTF, no enchant strip/perma nerf?)...

smilingscar

smilingscar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Frontline Legion

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Originally Posted by shoyon456 View Post
The fact that they do not open a direct dialogue with players via the website and state their intentions and goals clearly for all has long been a problem with Anet.
How come posting on the developer updates page doesn't count as putting it on the official website? They told us to go talk to the steward, they told us he was leaving soon. Just because some people weren't listening doesn't mean A-net wasn't talking.

But I guess people who can't be bothered to listen to announcements can't be bothered to listen to common sense on this forum either.

Coney

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

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Originally Posted by smilingscar View Post
But I guess people who can't be bothered to listen to announcements can't be bothered to listen to common sense on this forum either.
There were no announcements - I log on daily, I saw nothing. I don't bother reading dev status pages tho...

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

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Originally Posted by Coney View Post
I highly doubt it. Within 24 hours, there was a 7-8 player ASSN speed-clear (WTF, no enchant strip/perma nerf?)...
You missed the whole point of the post. To see what UWSC builds replace the old ones and deal with the skeletons... then act accordingly. Your post is direct proof that if it was their idea, it was a legitimate course of action.

Honestly, if you weren't on any of the times the quest was being offered either because you don't play that often, you were too busy, you don't read wiki/forums, or your guildies didn't know about it and tell you, then you really shouldn't care. We're all busy. If Guild Wars is a priority, you have to keep up on forums or in game. If it's not a priority, that's fine, but expect to miss some things.

It's really not a huge deal.

Villnar Shadowbane

Villnar Shadowbane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Canada

Ascalon Is That Way

W/A

Seriously... I just logged in 4 days later and I'm still waiting.. What a long waiting game.. Its faster to get the H1N1 shot than to wait to finish this quest... L A W L

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

I'm beginning to suspect the Mad King is behind this chaos, or the legendary Head of Vecna.

Eliz Genevieve

Eliz Genevieve

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

Portugal

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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Originally Posted by Coney View Post
There were no announcements - I log on daily, I saw nothing. I don't bother reading dev status pages tho...
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Originally Posted by freaking OFFICIAL GUILD WARS SITE
Update - Thursday, November 5, 2009

Halloween 2009
The Mad King's Steward will soon depart to serve his master, but he has one last word for all the brave souls willing to join the battle against Dhuum's minions.
Geez, you read forums, but you don't read the OFFICIAL game updates page? How would you know if SF has been nerfed or if something big has happened without taking a peek at the OFFICIAL game updates page?

This isn't Anet's lack of communication. This is your lack of reading and getting to know what the hell is happening.

Don't whine. The thing was all over, the forums, the wiki, the OFFICIAL site.

You dind't read cause you didn't wanted to. Period.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Thats what i was going to point out, yes you can argue the SOON DEPART is pretty vague but you should hazard a guess that you should be quick about getting it.
And bad luck to those who only got it on one character and are pissed because they didn't do it on others. Surely you could switch characters and travel to ToA, if your character doesn't have it then maybe theyre not ready for this? ...Actually just get to Kamadam or LA

Cracko

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Originally Posted by Eliz Genevieve View Post
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Geez, you read forums, but you don't read the OFFICIAL game updates page? How would you know if SF has been nerfed or if something big has happened without taking a peek at the OFFICIAL game updates page?

I check the forums, I read journals, I read game updates.

but the game update says it that it will soon depart, but has a last word for those willing to battle against dhuum.

I want to battle Dhuum, so when the quest was finally gonna be "active" I would just go with whatever character was needed to kill the guy, get the quest and roll him.

but now I can't get the quest anymore, which is weird and just plain stupid, you would at least expect this guy to give you the reward for the quest.

but that's just logical thinking.

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eliz Genevieve View Post
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Geez, you read forums, but you don't read the OFFICIAL game updates page? How would you know if SF has been nerfed or if something big has happened without taking a peek at the OFFICIAL game updates page?

This isn't Anet's lack of communication. This is your lack of reading and getting to know what the hell is happening.

Don't whine. The thing was all over, the forums, the wiki, the OFFICIAL site.

You dind't read cause you didn't wanted to. Period.
I'm not speaking for myself. But A LOT of people don't even care to read updates. Hell, most people don't travel past LA daily, and if they do, there isn't a 100% chance of seeing the steward.

I still don't see why Anet would want to make the Steward leave, it's not very logical. They could just leave him there and no one would be angry.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Like I said I'm pretty sure anyone (who goes through UW) can battle Dhumm, this quest just gives an extra one-time reward. I'll bet Anet intended this as a "hey this was supposed to be out halloween but we didn't have it ready in time, but here's an extra seasonal reward for those of you who were prepared." Of course Guru being what it is, people see it in the worse possible way.

Mangione

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Oh, cool.

I discovered this stuff just now.
My last login was when Halloween ended.
I don't care much about the quest, but I told this in alliance chat... ROFLMAO, the rage is epic.

They knew about the one time only quests, thanks to the login announcement:
during halloween on the login announcement there was a link to http://www.guildwars.com/events/ingame/halloween_2009/... guess what's on that page? "Brave the dangers of the Underworld on a series of spine-tingling quests for Mad King Thorn, available this Halloween season only.".

* So they played during Halloween and kept an eye for the unique quests.

* When Halloween ended they thought the "unique quests" were over, there were no more to come. Was it wrong to assume that once Halloween ended there were no more quests "available this Halloween only"?

* Then, after Halloween Anet decides to put in the game for a very limited time a steward that gives a "one time only" quest.

GG Anet, you surely know how to give players a great experience.

smilingscar

smilingscar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Frontline Legion

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by own age myname View Post
I'm not speaking for myself. But A LOT of people don't even care to read updates. Hell, most people don't travel past LA daily, and if they do, there isn't a 100% chance of seeing the steward.
See, I'm not thinking it's that many people who are left out. This thread only jumped up about 4-5ish pages when the Steward left; that’s not that many compared to most QQ-fests that go on here. One also has to take into account that there seems to be a decent split between those who are angry with A-net and those who aren’t.

I mean, when A-net posts skill changes on the dev updates page, the threads are 20+ pages long. This thread has covered two dev updates (the return and departure of the Steward) and we’ve only made it up to 15 pages. That’s long, but not that long considering the length of the wait. I'm not really feeling like there's all that much outrage from the community.

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

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Originally Posted by smilingscar View Post
See, I'm not thinking it's that many people who are left out. This thread only jumped up about 4-5ish pages when the Steward left; that’s not that many compared to most QQ-fests that go on here. One also has to take into account that there seems to be a decent split between those who are angry with A-net and those who aren’t.
The problem with this statement is that you completly ignore all of the people WHO AREN'T ON GURU. I wouldn't be suprised when the quest actually starts that people start to realize there actually was a halloween quest. Many of the people on this form are irate that after Anet preached better PR relations the communication seems to have gotten worse for the playerbase.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Well hopefully the stupid ass quest comes today. I don't want to hover around reading Guru and online journals. It's not all that entertaining.

Lonk

Lonk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Gwonline Guild [GWO]

N/R

Now I remember why I hardly read these forums anymore; Does everyone have some intense urge to whine about ANet and their decisions every single time they do anything? It sure seems like it.

Now yes I can understand people being a little upset if they missed the quest but I certainly did not find it that difficult to keep up with and I barely play Guild Wars these days. This is leading up to a very big event after all but some people are really going overboard with the complaining and crying here.

Calm down folks, it's just a game. Take deep breaths =p

Also as far as I am aware, the long wait is to build up the excitement and quite possibly to do the last bit of testing on this final quest before it's put on the live servers, so that's fine with me. Look how long we all waited for GW2 news? Was it not worth the wait after seeing that trailer? =)

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

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Originally Posted by Lonk View Post
Now I remember why I hardly read these forums anymore; Does everyone have some intense urge to whine about ANet and their decisions every single time they do anything? It sure seems like it.

Now yes I can understand people being a little upset if they missed the quest but I certainly did not find it that difficult to keep up with and I barely play Guild Wars these days. This is leading up to a very big event after all but some people are really going overboard with the complaining and crying here.

Calm down folks, it's just a game. Take deep breaths =p

Also as far as I am aware, the long wait is to build up the excitement and quite possibly to do the last bit of testing on this final quest before it's put on the live servers, so that's fine with me. Look how long we all waited for GW2 news? Was it not worth the wait after seeing that trailer? =)
i can see some of the QQ posted at/about the steward is wining but rest i dont think is. not everyone reads guru dailing or wiki and you forget wiki can and has been changed before. so any info on wiki i take witha grain of salt. and no the trailer wasnt worth the wait. because if it doesn come on 2011 that still is a long ways away and a teeny tiny trailer doesnt make me more wanting to buy a game.

Cluebag

Cluebag

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

Mo/

You Anet sycophants really need to just stop it w/the idiot logic. To blindly defend this mess that's happened is not reflecting well upon yourselves. The way that this quest chain has been mismanaged and mangled over, as of this post, 11 days after the halloween event has already concluded, to me is unprecedented, considering the fact that this is a one time only quest.

I'm a big believer in paying attention to trends. If you pay close enough attention, you usually can predict what will happen based on prior observations. Over the course of gw history, the trends with holiday/event quests and rewards have been that the opportunity to cash in concludes when the event is done and the npc's and decorations have been removed, where you can no longer trade items for goodies, etc. These dates are usually predetermined, so that you can schedule your personal agenda around the event itinerary, if you so choose.

There have been a few exceptions to this. One example was when the canthan hat trader guy would stick around for a week after the event, so you could still trade the collectible items in and collect the hat. When that underwater communications line broke (I think due to an earthquake/tsunami) and resulted in cutting part of the world off from an event, they did the dragon festival redux ('07). And I vaguely remember this one, but the wiki mentioned that there was a halloween redux in '08 as well.

Regardless, in the past Anet has done a fairly decent job trying to give the playerbase an opportunity to participate in those events. They went out of their way to make things right w/the community (with respect to the holiday events at least) and that was commendable and appreciated. Why they'd dick around now and flop and twitch with this one kindof leaves me wondering wtf is going on over there.

This is uncharted waters now, with this steward foolishness. To deliberately hose people out of a one time only quest chain because there is some sloppy shit going on in the background at Anet hq, that signifies a new point of interest for the trend followers. They used to have a fairly decent track record with holiday events, now it is apparent that the care with which they used to handle these events has slipped significantly. I guess that makes sense if you are of the opinion that lately Anet has been sloppy in general when attempting to integrate things on their punchlist into the game, with respect to delays and other unexpected screwups or other not-well-thought out updates (e.g. heroes banished from the gh).

The irritated people here aren't so much qq'ing as they are throwing the bullshit flag. There's been a bad call and it needs to be reviewed/overturned. Anet can fix it, they just have to want to fix it.

Defending this mess unfolding in the manner that it has been as the way it was originally intended, or suggesting that ANet is handling this well... puhleeeze. You sound like a bunch of assholes. Put down your kool-aid, and let the big people talk, at least the ones who have the ability to form objective opinons and make decisions based on rational logic.

Lihinel

Lihinel

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

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Originally Posted by Cracko View Post
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but that's just logical thinking.
No, thats just ignorance.

You fail to even comprehend the simple fact that you can take and later recieve the reward for a quest from two different (read: non identical) NPCs.

It was stated that the questgiver would leave soon and that the waiting would be a matter of days, not hours.
You should have just accepted the quest on every character that could get it (/ has access to uw/fow), would have taken you less time than to write this complain afterwards.

Coverticus

Coverticus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Zodiac Elites [TZE]

Mo/

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Originally Posted by Cluebag View Post
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Whoah there, chillpill or 2 required!

Yes, ANet have ballsed up here on the face of things but until (well, if ever) we are told of the reasoning behind these quests and how they were meant to work, all of the QQing/defending is just purely conjecture.

It's happened. Get over it - play the game

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

Anyway, this has pretty much run it's course.

Once the quest is active, we might have another thread. Although I doubt there will be a need for one.