Last (?) Halloween Quest

dr love

dr love

...is in denial

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hyperion

starcraft 2

P/Me

i can't wait till we get favour and the QQ'in continues!

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

Why is it I'm the only one who likes the idea of a quest with build-up and no instant gratification?

That is, of course, assuming that we can do this in more than a limited time frame once it's active.

Jaskaran

Jaskaran

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

YOU PERV!!

Order Of The Unyeilding [Aura]

R/N

i hope the boss is a giant level: 38 with 3000 hp and infinite energy.. that way it will be almost impossible to solo and you will need to form a party of 12 which has never been in the game and would be very cool...

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

You're not the only one. I like the suspense too.
I think Arenanet is virally marketing this update.
Also:
"Love me or hate me, just make sure you spell my name correctly"
You guys keep talking about the quest non-stop. I think Anet achieved their goal

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaskaran View Post
i hope the boss is a giant level: 38 with 3000 hp and infinite energy.. that way it will be almost impossible to solo and you will need to form a party of 12 which has never been in the game and would be very cool...
err....except for urgoz and the deep.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Quote:
Mad King's Steward has departed Lion's Arch and Kamadan, returning to his master in the Mad Realm.
The Mad Realm sounds like a pretty fun place. It's existence is pretty much the only thing that excited me about this update, for only a few seconds.

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

Unless CR has a good explanation on why the Steward has yet again left, this is really going to look bad for Anet.

So, Regina.......what's going on now?

PartyMAn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

FL

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
Unless CR has a good explanation on why the Steward has yet again left, this is really going to look bad for Anet.

So, Regina.......what's going on now?
She said a couple days ago he would be leaving...

Quote:
"The Mad King's Steward will soon depart to serve his master, but he has one last word for all the brave souls willing to join the battle against Dhuum's minions."

The Mad King's Steward is offering a new quest today, but he will not remain in Lion's Arch and Kamadan for too long, so if you're willing to answer the call to arms against Dhuum, you will need to speak to him while he's there. After he's gone, you won't be able to accept that quest.

Polgara Val

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

TSR

Mo/Me

Looking rather good Anet, let the lovely backlash now begin from the GW community will now be rather annoyed with you lot

Pol

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

WAIT A FREAKING MINUTE

So we had to take the quest, while it was active, for the couple days the Steward was there, and then the quest could only be completed at some later date? ARE YOU FREAKING INSANE ANET? So if we didn't take it, knowing that it was only a 'wait until who knows when it'll be active', we won't be able to actually do it whenever that time is? Is this crazy world now?

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
WAIT A FREAKING MINUTE

So we had to take the quest, while it was active, for the couple days the Steward was there, and then the quest could only be completed at some later date? ARE YOU FREAKING INSANE ANET? So if we didn't take it, knowing that it was only a 'wait until who knows when it'll be active', we won't be able to actually do it whenever that time is? Is this crazy world now?
Well if Regina said the NPC was leaving soon....

Quote:
"The Mad King's Steward will soon depart to serve his master, but he has one last word for all the brave souls willing to join the battle against Dhuum's minions."

The Mad King's Steward is offering a new quest today, but he will not remain in Lion's Arch and Kamadan for too long, so if you're willing to answer the call to arms against Dhuum, you will need to speak to him while he's there. After he's gone, you won't be able to accept that quest.


I would have played it safe and taken the quest on all of my characters right away. Even if there wasn't any way to actually complete the quest, it still wouldn't have hurt to take the quest. Plus, she said he wouldn't be there for long.

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

so.......where was this stated? I didn't see this.

Apok Omen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Commence Aggro [BaMf]

Mo/E

He was there for 4 frakking days, more than enough time for people to go "oh look, candycorn man with exclamation mark over his head, wonder what he wants!"

Chasing Squirrels

Chasing Squirrels

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
so.......where was this stated? I didn't see this.
He quoted and bold it for you?

Azure Requiem

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
so.......where was this stated? I didn't see this.
Try to make a habit of always typing /wiki and checking the updates section about an hour after any new "new build of guildwars" message/update upon starting the game.

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ntherblast View Post
He quoted and bold it for you?
that not giving his source:P
btw: its Regina's journal entry where that information was given

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmoon View Post
that not giving his source:P
btw: its Regina's journal entry where that information was given
Got it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
so.......where was this stated? I didn't see this.


I never saw this quote before until I looked it up five minutes ago

Hyperventilate

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by zelgadissan View Post
Why is it I'm the only one who likes the idea of a quest with build-up and no instant gratification?

That is, of course, assuming that we can do this in more than a limited time frame once it's active.
You're not the only one.

Plus, I'm rather enjoying the QQage.

Patience is a virtue, but it doesn't seem like people understand that anymore. Waiting, speculating and wanting are definitely part of the fun.

Cluebag

Cluebag

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

Mo/

Wow. Just wow.

I'm having a hard time trying to come up with words to express my disbelief here. I've witnessed some pretty stupid ass things in my lifetime, things that are beyond comprehension, and it never ceases to amaze me how a seemingly not-complex evolution becomes this abortionized mess, complete with football bats and flipper-armed flailing about and otherwise full speed ahead RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOery.

For a "one time only" holiday quest to get delayed is one thing. To have the npc quest giver come and go and come and go and come and go is another. To have a warning on some wiki journal that only a smattering of people pay any attention to is another issue. The fact that the warning was some sort of incredulous quasi info stating "oh yeah, btw, yeahhh, that quest you were trying to knock out, yeahhh, that quest will available some time in the future (like the xth return) so... go ahead and take that quest now because, like, um, yeahhh, that npc has to go away and you won't be able to take the quest later... yeahhh". Because that makes complete sense, taking a quest days in advance because the npc is going to be removed from the game, for a (delayed) one-time quest that allegedly will become active some day, eventually...

/double thumbs up

/crackpipe

Wow.

Tramp

Tramp

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

I think the waiting game is really to see what uwsc builds come out to counter the skeletons. From there they can finalize the skill set on the end boss to counter the builds that are already being posted and promising to take uwsc back to under 20 minutes. Kind of sneaky if that were the case. Either that or swine flu ravaged them again, or it is just /fail. I dunno.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

although I did take the quest on all eligible characters, this way of doing things has me totally confused.

They put an npc in to give a quest you could not do yet

then they have us load a new build just to take him out before the quest was ready even though, essentially, his presence made no difference to the game anyway - and this build could not wait till the next regular update, why?

I'm soooo confused

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Quote:
posted by Jaskaran
i hope the boss is a giant level: 38 with 3000 hp and infinite energy.. that way it will be almost impossible to solo and you will need to form a party of 12 which has never been in the game and would be very cool...

ELITE MISSION The Deep (12) /cough
ELITE MISSION Urgoz Warren (12) /cough

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Well if it makes you feel any better, this is what I think will happen:

Dhumm battle will be a permanent, repeatable addition to UW.
The halloween quest is a one-shot bonus reward for doing this battle.

So, everyone should still be able to do the quest "content", albeit only a few will get "rich."

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tramp View Post
I think the waiting game is really to see what uwsc builds come out to counter the skeletons. From there they can finalize the skill set on the end boss to counter the builds that are already being posted and promising to take uwsc back to under 20 minutes. Kind of sneaky if that were the case. Either that or swine flu ravaged them again, or it is just /fail. I dunno.
You have a VERY good point. Still, it seems a bit haphazard and sends a bad tone to the community. Im sure there were many people who didn't get the quest, and more like myself who only got it on a couple chars.

Hyperventilate

Hyperventilate

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Somewhere in California

I Gots A Crayon [Blue]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tramp View Post
I think the waiting game is really to see what uwsc builds come out to counter the skeletons. From there they can finalize the skill set on the end boss to counter the builds that are already being posted and promising to take uwsc back to under 20 minutes. Kind of sneaky if that were the case. Either that or swine flu ravaged them again, or it is just /fail. I dunno.

Good point. I like it. I agree it'd be kind of sneaky, but with this sort of stuff I guess you can't just say, "We're going to put in a new enemy and it's going to have X, Y and Z skills." People will be countering that before the enemy even exists.


Hmm. Food for thought. If that's the case, then this quest literally is a waiting game for them.


/ponder.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tramp View Post
I think the waiting game is really to see what uwsc builds come out to counter the skeletons. From there they can finalize the skill set on the end boss to counter the builds that are already being posted and promising to take uwsc back to under 20 minutes.
That would be fully excellent. If that wasn't the plan from the start, they should MAKE it their plan now!

Reflect

Reflect

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Varna,Bulgaria

Glob Of Ectospasm [GoE]

W/

New Update: Mad King's Steward is gone?
Quest still cant be done...1 week waitning alrdy

own age myname

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

I hope this is worth it in the end.

Vulturion

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2009

While I am surprised the Steward disappeared already - and thankful my brother badgered me into taking it on my alts - I'm actually heartened that he & his quest turned out to be just a brief side-dish to the upcoming main event for one big reason: the reward.

I mean the Steward quest reward is generous with the cash and also ToT bags for the candy title chasers (given up at 1k myself but pass them all to my bro), but I was worried that was it for the finale.

Since he's gone now with barely a fanfare and the finale is still outstanding, it's clear that the Steward's quest is a] not essential to the showdown with Dhuum and thus b] the fixed/random/whatever reward for stomping Dhuum is not just going to be a sack of candy.

P.S. This is bugging me now: anyone know for sure if Dhuum is pronounced as "dumb", "doom" or something else altogether?

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

I call Dhuum "Doom", since he could only be called dumb as a cruel joke by Anet.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

I'm confused as to the reasons why anyone would NOT take the quest on all the available chars as soon as it was available? Was it because they thought: "well, I will just abandon it and take it when I can actually do something, because I don't like clutter in my Quest Log."

Vulturion

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzjudz View Post
I'm confused as to the reasons why anyone would NOT take the quest on all the available chars as soon as it was available? Was it because they thought: "well, I will just abandon it and take it when I can actually do something, because I don't like clutter in my Quest Log."
I only found out from my brother - it turns out an hour or two before the Steward left - that the 5th quest could be taken by characters who hadn't done quests 1-4.

Since I didn't bother to do the running quests with my alts, it never occured to me at least that they'd all be eligible for the 5k 100 bag conclusion.

Chico

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget View Post
Well if Regina said the NPC was leaving soon....
Not everyone in the game is a forum/wiki dweller...

LOL Anet. Removed the NPC that gives a quest that's not even available yet. Are you out of your mind?

If they wanted to let us know about this guy going away, why not post it in the login messages?

Now we have "the waiting game" of getting a message from Regina about this mess.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico View Post
If they wanted to let us know about this guy going away, why not post it in the login messages?
Because the Mad King's Steward told us himself, that he is leaving soon?

The quest is called "The Waiting Game". Big clue there. And then the Voice of Grenth tells you to "stand ready", and "We will summon you when the time comes".

I really have no sympathy for people who couldn't figure out that the Steward could very likely leave before the quest became "do-able". What do they want? Someone to hold their hand through everything? Have precise login messages instructing them to "do this, do that", so they can disengage brain and still have everything handed to them on a plate?

Anduin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hissy View Post
Because the Mad King's Steward told us himself, that he is leaving soon?

The quest is called "The Waiting Game". Big clue there. And then the Voice of Grenth tells you to "stand ready", and "We will summon you when the time comes".

I really have no sympathy for people who couldn't figure out that the Steward could very likely leave before the quest became "do-able". What do they want? Someone to hold their hand through everything? Have precise login messages instructing them to "do this, do that", so they can disengage brain and still have everything handed to them on a plate?
Not everyone uses the forums. Not everyone uses the wiki. ANd not everyone passes through Lion's Arch/Kamadan on a regular basis.

I've been playing in Factions, and would have had no idea about this quest had I not used the forum.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anduin View Post
Not everyone uses the forums. Not everyone uses the wiki. ANd not everyone passes through Lion's Arch/Kamadan on a regular basis.

I've been playing in Factions, and would have had no idea about this quest had I not used the forum.
What's your point? Nobody needed wiki or forums to figure it out.

Everyone who was aware of Halloween (and Halloween was announced in the login messages), should have been able to stumble across the Mad King's Steward, with the big exclamation mark over his head. And take quests accordingly. And figure the whole thing out. And even if you couldn't, asking in public chat would have got your answer in seconds.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico View Post
LOL Anet. Removed the NPC that gives a quest that's not even available yet. Are you out of your mind?
I was thinking the same thing. They claim to keep stats on all sorts of things, maybe the volume of people taking the quest had trailed off to the point where it was ok to remove. Pretty strange situation with this one all around I gotta say.

Cracko

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Great, I've only gotten it on one character.

ANET IS RED ENGINE GO STUPID, SRSLY.

what the hell are they thinking?

oh yeah: great communication again ANET, you rock!

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Well the steward had to leave eventually, maybe the whole point of the waiiting game was to make sure those who actaully attended halloween actually picked it up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cracko View Post
Great, I've only gotten it on one character.

ANET IS RED ENGINE GO STUPID, SRSLY.

what the hell are they thinking?

oh yeah: great communication again ANET, you rock!
to be fair they did say the Steward would shortly be leaving

Cracko

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmithyBen View Post
Well the steward had to leave eventually, maybe the whole point of the waiiting game was to make sure those who actaully attended halloween actually picked it up.
why'd he have to leave? 1 reason.

lore reasons? oh please.

where did it say he would be leaving "shortly"?

and what does "shortly" mean anyway, 1 day, 5 days, a month?