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Good luck with the sucky class.... some teachers really overreact to the smallest things. I mean, yes, if you didn't use a reference for something you were supposed to use a reference for I can understand that she'd be a little angry about it, but at least she should talk to you about it normally instead of calling you out in front of everyone in the class.
Students are only human too, and make mistakes sometimes. Forgetting something, or being too stressed out to do the best work possible happens to people, and as such should be excused if the person is otherwise diligent about their work.

Also, sounds like they really load up too much schoolwork on you. :/ How do they expect people to be creative and not burn out if they keep adding to the burden?

*hugs Charlie* I shall have a pretty drawing done for you soon to cheer you up! Well.. as soonish as I can manage. :P
Yeah, I can understand also why she'd point out the lack of reference. She's extremely nit-picky and sort of forces you to draw in her preferred manner - which is really damn annoying as anyone can imagine.

I lol'd though when she did start snipping at me since the students around me gave me the "this teacher is crazy" look.

Anyways, another reason I think I'm such a foul mood is because of re-piping being done on my apt. For the past week I've had to stay out of my apt between 7:30 a.m. - 5 p.m. because of all the lead and asbestos dust flying in my apt after they've ripped open my walls and ceilings. I'm smushed up with my couch right up against the TV since everything else is basically off limits due to the water pipes.

Not to mention there was a massive leak over the weekend where it poured literally three five gallon buckets worth of black, disgusting, smelly water from the new ceiling holes right onto my carpet slightly before midnight. I had to stay up all night to make sure no more water spilled onto my carpet, and to empty the buckets once they got filled. Think I was up for about 36 hours straight that day. The faucet water now in general tastes like metal and has a nauseating metallic smell to it.

So you can imagine how miserable my now cramped and sleep-deprived living situation has been these past few days. If my teacher starts giving me shit on Thursday again, I just might eat her face off.

But that is good news to hear that you've started on the art trade - I'm sure that'll cheer me up whenever you get the chance to work on it.

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I feel so sorry for you charlie you should stab her. it will make you feel better

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Big hug Charlie. Give that teacher an asswhoop by showing what you can!

In a totaly non-threatening sexual kind of way..

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*hugs *
It sounds to me like your teacher recognises your talent and wants you to get the best possible marks.

I am totally confused by the insistence on references – are artists no longer able to use imagination? When my daughter did an art class she found it impossible to use references and had to run around making them up afterwards.
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I feel so sorry for you charlie you should stab her. it will make you feel better
Yeah but I suspect he might be imprisonned and won’t prison be worse than his apartment?
Quote: As someone who did wind up burning herself out because of the huge amount of work at an art school...I don't know. I had one class that was so bad that it basically came down to giving up on that class and failing it but being able to pass my other ones, or trying to keep up with that class and failing all of the others. It also killed my desire to do anything creative for ages.

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Sorry to hear about that Charlie. My first thought was that she's insecure with your talent lol.

Things should look up for you soon enough.

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Sorry to hear about that Charlie. My first thought was that she's insecure with your talent lol this...most definately!

Charlie Dayman

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Major tsunami alert for the entire west coast. It's about 2:50 a.m. here and I'm backing up my computer, grabbing a few things and about to pop off to my campus. From what I'm hearing, waves are supposed to hit San Francisco at around 8 a.m. So everyone else who lives on the WC and reads this beforehand should play it safe and move inland.

Anyways, things are sort of mellowing out in school and life. Aside from this tsunami warning, of course.

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Major tsunami alert for the entire west coast. It's about 2:50 a.m. here and I'm backing up my computer, grabbing a few things and about to pop off to my campus. From what I'm hearing, waves are supposed to hit San Francisco at around 8 a.m. So everyone else who lives on the WC and reads this beforehand should play it safe and move inland.

Anyways, things are sort of mellowing out in school and life. Aside from this tsunami warning, of course. I totally just read that on google o:
Luckily I'm East Coast and inland (our greatest water threat is Lake Ontario... Dx). My parents are on vacation, however they're also on the eastcoast so they shouldnt have any problems either.

Hopefully you don't get hit too bad :x That would kind of... suck real hard D:

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Oh dear... I really hope it won't be that bad there. Good thing you have a place inland to go to, and I hope everyone there will be safe.

I have one Japanese friend who is an exchange student here in Finland, and she's been unable to contact her family in Japan. Here's hoping that things won't get worse anymore, and that people are able to reach their families again.

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Anyways, another reason I think I'm such a foul mood is because of re-piping being done on my apt. For the past week I've had to stay out of my apt between 7:30 a.m. - 5 p.m. because of all the lead and asbestos dust flying in my apt after they've ripped open my walls and ceilings. I'm smushed up with my couch right up against the TV since everything else is basically off limits due to the water pipes.

Not to mention there was a massive leak over the weekend where it poured literally three five gallon buckets worth of black, disgusting, smelly water from the new ceiling holes right onto my carpet slightly before midnight. I had to stay up all night to make sure no more water spilled onto my carpet, and to empty the buckets once they got filled. Think I was up for about 36 hours straight that day. The faucet water now in general tastes like metal and has a nauseating metallic smell to it.

So you can imagine how miserable my now cramped and sleep-deprived living situation has been these past few days. If my teacher starts giving me shit on Thursday again, I just might eat her face off. omg Charlie, it sounds like you're living in a toxic dump~!
now that's what I call suffering for your art :}

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Glad to hear everything turned out all right with the tsunami around your place, and that your friends and family are OK too in Hawaii.

You had a very tough couple of weeks what with the crappy teacher, pipes and such. :/ *hugs*

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Everything worked out fine on my side. The waves were severely weakened by the time they made it to the Southern coast, thankfully. Can't say the same for the north where waves reached 8 feet and caused some extensive port damages.

Anyways, here's a good donation site:

https://www.globalgiving.org/

Comes with a drop down "tax" box that allows you to ensure that all of your donation gets through to the folks in Japan, and not be partially service charged. I encourage everyone to donate canned foods or money, give blood or whatever have you. They certainly need it, especially with this new business of one of the nuclear reactors exploding.

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Oh wow, glad that the waves weakened enough to not cause any damage where you are.

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-late hug for Charlie since she just got internet this morning-
D: That doesn't sound like any fun at all. :C
Happy to hear that the waves didn't damage your area, though!

Charlie Dayman

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Very little free time, hnnnghhhh.

Learning a good deal in my Char. Design class. My teacher is getting us to look and animate characters in more ways than just "cartoonizing" a human figure, which is what I was doing for Dorothy. Helping me out a great deal in terms of adding personality through shape, form and gesture.

Some quick sketches of a few expressions that are due tomorrow. Working on the Scarecrow character.



In commission related news, I'm probably going to be trashing the work of Shala I started. Going to try applying some of the stuff I've been learning in this class to that picture. That is when I get time to work on it.

Gotta' run again. Need to pull another all-nighter.

Bleagh.

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*jealous* Your ability to switch styles that all look professionally drawn astounds me.

Can't wait to see Shala's new version

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i have to admit, my favourite is the bottom right one.


"OHHHHHHHHHHHHH heythere."

these look like they could definetly be in movies. awesome job ^^

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I once read that people with a lot talent don't need many compliments.

I hereby will restrain from giving you any more compliments. (which kind of a catch-22 )

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I once read that people with a lot talent don't need many compliments. Just because the don't need compliments doesn't mean they wont appreciate them

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@Raven: It's surprising how difficult it is switching from semi-realism to a more animated type of drawing style. In all honest opinion, it's a lot harder to create a well designed character that's super simplified in comparison to something more realistic.

You literally go through dozens of pages in this class in order to find that "shape" to your character that makes him or her unique in terms of appearance.

@Death: Yeah, that's probably my favorite as well. These expression sheets are really fun to draw. Not to mention some really good practice in terms of getting down emotions, even though they're super exaggerated.

@Toms: Who doesn't like compliments? <3

As for Shala, I'm still going to be going with the concept-art look. Though this time around I want to incorporate more shapes and character personality into the design. I'm thinking this will have to wait until after this semester ends though. Spring break starts next week, but it's looking like I'll be bogged down with a ton of homework the entire time. After that, it's back to classwork and the sort.

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@Raven: It's surprising how difficult it is switching from semi-realism to a more animated type of drawing style. In all honest opinion, it's a lot harder to create a well designed character that's super simplified in comparison to something more realistic.

You literally go through dozens of pages in this class in order to find that "shape" to your character that makes him or her unique in terms of appearance. In a run about way, I can def see what you mean. I find myself unable to draw convincing chibi/super deformed style lol.

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lol, those expressions are great! I dont' know why, but I really like the upper right one XD

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Those are very good charlie <3
i literally lol'ed at the top left one...has that
"oops..yeah, that smell...it was...THE DOG!(under breath giggles)" look about it

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Yeah, he's supposed to be a bit of an odd character. As my teacher put, "he looks like the kind of character you love to hate."

I was basing him a bit off of Jon Lovitz and Nathan Lane from the 06' version of The Producers.

Which by the way, you should watch this song from the movie because it's catchy. That and it has a gay version of Hitler, which in itself is enough reason to watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCUfkMkVbwo

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That character you have drawn...isn't that a character that already excists? It looks so familiar.

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Is it? Kind of a generic look to him, so I guess he might look like an already existing character. As far as an intentional reference, I wasn't really basing him off of anything aside from Lovitz and Lane.

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Nice expressions i like the top left one

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Thanks, EZ.

Some more costume concepts and designs coming this way. Also playing around with color palettes. These are actually paper doll cut-outs for an illustration assignment with a bunch of smaller pieces. I just scanned the individual pieces and assembled them to show the final product.

I think the next time I start coloring Dorothy, I'll be lightening the outlines around her figure and clothes to look more like the far right figure. The palette design is supposed to be inspired by Mucha, so I think it's a wee-bit dark around some parts here.

Mixture of acrylic, collage and PS.

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nice! kinda Nouveau and Deco at the same time, I like the outfits and colours

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This style you seem to be doing (for class?) is really so awesome D:
Its sort of got like, a nice retro-1920's feel. Which i think is totally awesome.

Only one...critique, if even that. Likely stylistic, but why do they have mermaid tails? D:

Anyways, the one on the left reminds me of gwen for somereason. maybe the colour...
Even though all of them are literally the same model, the left most one looks more muscular... don't know how that works.

Please say your class requires you to do a full piece in this style for like, a final project?

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@Morag: Thanks, Morag. Aside from the art deco-style, Mucha and his color palette is one of my other major references I had to pick for this project - LS Lowry, and Pierre Brissaud the others. Figured I'd finally start laying down color choices for at least one char.

And it's good to see you popping up around these parts again.

@Death: Lol, at the mermaid tails. Since these are supposed to be paper dolls for a mock-magazine layout, I wanted to make a pose that wouldn't be a huge pain in the ass to cut out (i.e. not too many open spaces between areas). That was one of the main guidelines we were supposed to keep in mind. That's why her legs are basically melded together into a simple shape.

As I was cutting her out, I noticed it was still a really tedious process. Originally, those rectangular designs weren't a planned part of the doll. It wasn't until the end when I added those shapes that I realized they would make the "cut-out" process significantly easier and more importantly fun.

Anyways, I can see the resemblance to Gwen you're talking about - especially with her Deldrimor hero armor. And she probably looks a bit more muscular in comparison to the other two because of how I cut out that dress maybe?

And yes, the final char-design project is going to be looking something like this in the end. It won't be a full-scene or anything like that though since we're really only focusing on characters. Though hopefully I'll be able to make some fun little illustrations showing the difference between their personalities.

EDIT
: Just to get into the mood, have some Cab Calloway. Even though he came slightly after the Roaring Twenties, these are still pretty awesome songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQyQ4...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUtD0...eature=related

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ugh so awesome Dx

And the cutting out makes sense for the shape. Though its not bad the way it is ^^

I look forward to seeing the final project; do you have to take one character and sort of do a more in-depth creation in this style? I'm not too sure what the requirements you have to follow are other than that its based on this particular style.

Also; that cab calloway stuff is awesome. I also like Billie Holiday; shes from the same era as calloway. Nothing like some jazz to motivate art.

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Since these are supposed to be paper dolls for a mock-magazine layout, I wanted to make a pose that wouldn't be a huge pain in the ass to cut out (i.e. not too many open spaces between areas). That was one of the main guidelines we were supposed to keep in mind. That's why her legs are basically melded together into a simple shape.
Are you talking about those paper dolls where you put on different paper clothes on them (popping out cutouts and using little tabs to make them stay on the doll)? If so, I used to LOVE those when I was little! If that what you're doing? Making the dolls and clothes or am I thinking something totally different?

This is really cool

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Oooh, I think the one on the left is my favorite. They look awesome.

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-hug- Baww I'm sorry to hear about your apartment Charlie D: COME LIVE WITH ME! YA :D! Well.. .___ .

and I love the middle Dorothy D':

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^ I think Marsh is on something

I want to try cutting those out Charlie - is that allowed?

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@Death: For the final project, we're going to have somewhere between 2-3 finalized characters. Anything beyond that will be concept art. The "rules" we have to follow are essentially dictated by the artists we choose for reference. You analyze what you like about those artist and the qualities that stand out. Once you have that figured out, those traits then become the rules on how you'll be drawing.

It's basically to show the importance of artist reference, force you out of your comfort zone, and create interesting designs through a mish-mash of various artistic styles.

So for me, it's Art Deco aesthetic, Art Nouveau color/line quality, and gradients (LS Lowry).

And here's another addition to Calloway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niIfeVGaJZw - the singer is no Calloway, but it's a really catchy version of the song.

@Thistle: Yep, you're definitely thinking about the same thing we're doing in class.

@Verene: Agreed, the one of the left is my favorite as well.

@Marsh: Bah, no need to worry about my living situation anymore. That got taken care of a few weeks back, so everything is back to normal now.

@Aero: Cutting is forbidden. It's always been forbidden.

Just kidding, but maybe hold off on printing that out right now since those are the finished products. I have an actual 11x17" page layout with all the costumes and the base design that I still need to add the final touches on. Once I do that, I'll upload that here and you can copypasta to your heart's content.

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Popping in here really quick. Quick acrylic painting for illustration class - parody of a master's painting. Took a day and a half.



Off to take a nap now before I had to steamroll through some more homework.

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lol too much awesome for words!
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Big hug Charlie. Give that teacher an asswhoop by showing what you can!

In a totaly non-threatening sexual kind of way.. Hahaha

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How do they expect people to be creative and not burn out if they keep adding to the burden?