New Xunlai Tournament House Information

Regina Buenaobra

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

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After much analysis and discussion, we’ve decided to permanently retire the Xunlai Tournament House.

Initially, we took down the Xunlai Tournament House due to recurring technical issues that caused incorrect Tournament Point distribution each month. We conducted an exhaustive investigation into the backend code that runs the Xunlai Tournament House to see what we could do to fix these issues. After careful evaluation, we concluded that it wasn’t possible to redeploy the Xunlai Tournament House at the level of quality that our players expect without completely rebuilding it from scratch. To do that, we’d have to take away vital resources from the Guild Wars 2 team. Given the circumstances, we decided it was more important to keep our focus on Guild Wars 2, and permanently retire the Xunlai Tournament House.

This was a tough call for us to make. We’ve greatly appreciated the community’s enthusiastic support for XTH. We know that this decision will disappoint some players, and we apologize for that, but ultimately we believe this was the right decision.

Meridon

Meridon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Funny Business Inc [FBI]

Will players still receive May's reward points? Somewhere along the way it was mentioned they were logged and secure.

Emunator

Emunator

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

DVDF

Mo/E

Same question as Meridon, since that was promised a LONG time ago.

Leman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emunator View Post
Same question as Meridon, since that was promised a LONG time ago.
Probability theory says 'no'. Reality says 'no'. I guess it's 'no'.

Btw, the decision has probably been made few months ago.

Coast

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

no need from regina to post here, wasted effort since everyone alrdy knew they shut it down.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

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As far as the TRPs go, I think they need to go ahead and distribute them. Back in May, some people got their TRPs and some people didn't. That's just not right.

Evaine

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

KORE

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Well, that's sad. I had a feeling that since it was taking so long to release any information about the XTH that this was going to be the outcome. Add me to the list of players that want to know about May's points. I have a feeling the answer is going to be basically along the lines of "Sorry Charlie ..."

One good thing about the XTH is that I started observing matches - for the most part they're very interesting. I do admire Mesmers.

Emunator

Emunator

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

DVDF

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leman View Post
Probability theory says 'no'. Reality says 'no'. I guess it's 'no'.

Btw, the decision has probably been made few months ago.
Ok, then check this quote :

Quote:
The May Xunlai Tournament House points distribution took place on June 18. During the distribution, problems occurred. Although many players received their points, some players did not get the correct number of points, and some players who voted did not receive any points at all. As you know, people normally get 5 points just for voting. Our team has been working to assess the situation and take care of the errors that caused the distribution issues.

We have the correct point distribution records of all those who participated in the Xunlai Tournament House for the May tournaments, and they will get the correct number of points, whether they contacted Customer Support or not.
From this topic : http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...74&postcount=1
Those where Regina's own words.

AmbientMelody

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2009

Poland

N/A

When I read the thread title in Riverside I thought 'oh, you gonna announce that you had run into next problems and that we won't see anything done till summer' and was about to say 'you might as well remove it altogether' and then I read the first post ... looks like I'm reading someone's mind hahaha

Good job Anet, forget this bullshit Xunlai was and move on! Better late than never!

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
It was at least several weeks ago, since I'd already heard.

As far as the TRPs go, I think they need to go ahead and distribute them. Back in May, some people got their TRPs and some people didn't. That's just not right.
I remember there was one month where I didn't even vote and I got quite a few reward points.

Anyways, I'm not too surprised by this announcement.

RIP XTH.

Ariena Najea

Ariena Najea

Silence and Motion

Join Date: Jul 2006

Buffalo NY

New Horizon [NH]

Before the massive wave of people complaining about the "incompetence" of ArenaNet storm this thread, take the following into account:

The developers would rather work on the actual game than a predictions module.

That's a win in my book =)

Emunator

Emunator

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

DVDF

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariena Najea View Post
Before the massive wave of people complaining about the "incompetence" of ArenaNet storm this thread, take the following into account:

The developers would rather work on the actual game than a predictions module.

That's a win in my book =)
I agree with that, i dont mind that XTH is gone, but they should keep the promise on those may reward points.

Especially after keeping us in the dark so long. (Most of us knew it wouldnt come back though)

Rhododendron

Rhododendron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

Rt/

Buh bye free monthly stacks of shiny platinum..

Ralisti

Ralisti

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2010

CST

W/

Watch, as a part of the birthday update- zkeys will randomly drop in HM

lol~~

Operations

Operations

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Saint Louis, MI (yes, it exists)

Pylons of Bastet [PofB]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
After much analysis and discussion, we’ve decided to permanently retire the Xunlai Tournament House.
Translation - Magic 8-ball told us not to do it.

Um, duh?

Really, like this could not be figured out?

And she posts about this, and NOT about the skill update that is 2 months late...

Diana Belevere

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralisti View Post
Watch, as a part of the birthday update- zkeys will randomly drop in HM

lol~~
Haha. That would be awesome!

Im guessing our extra mystery reward at the upcoming event is supposed to make up for the lack of XTH.


Sigh. Im sad the house is gone, but yes, its better for them to spend the resources on GW2 instead. I wonder how long they've known it wasn't coming back?

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

We'd need to WORK to fix TA.
Oh well, we'll just remove it.
We'd need to WORK to fix HB.
Oh well, we'll just remove it.
We'd need to WORK to fix XTH.
Oh well, we'll just remove it.
We'd need to WORK to fix certain skills.
Oh well, we'll just remove them.

I wish to go on record and say that rangers and mesmer in PvE and the FA map are COMPLETELY fine.
Consider whatever I said that contradicts this statement to be non-existent.


Ohh, and titles are completely and utterly broken!

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariena Najea View Post
Before the massive wave of people complaining about the "incompetence" of ArenaNet storm this thread, take the following into account:

The developers would rather work on the actual game than a predictions module.

That's a win in my book =)
I agree, too. I knew it was gone, and I'd rather them work on the game than the XTH (although, I sincerely doubt they worked on the XTH for 8 months).

However, many of us didn't get the TRPs we were owed....even a few some of us earned....

Shake N Bake

Shake N Bake

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2008

Maastricht

点pitterpatter点 [点点点点]

N/Rt

And the amazing support of GW strikes again.....
And oh we will never get the points, they can't take some who is creatin World of Charrcraft 2 (say what u will Gw 2 is not even close to anything like GW)..
Well what a can a devoted GW player say....

REDdelver

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Girls Pee Pee When They See [ME]

N/Mo

Many months have passed by since most of the dumby accts purchased specifically for the XTH have slipped into acoma. While the passing of the XTH has finally come, it doesnt make it any easier knowing all this time that these accounts would eventually move on.

Im greatly saddened for the lost of everyone's extra purchased accts. We all knew that this day was coming. For this, I wish to pass along my condolences to all the people who have lost so greatly.

To the people whom had bought 1 or 2 extra...I'm very saddened...including myself.

.....and to the people who were rumored to have over 50 accts specifically to collect free keys ..........Theres an very old wise phrase that has been passed down from generation to generation from 1000's of years ago...

Sux To Be Ju!!!!


R.I.P extra accts specifically purchased for the XTH R.I.P

P.S. Could we trade in three tyrian accts for say..one eotn upgrade???? good deal no? Win win??? perrty please?


Edit. Well I guess Nicholas could get some extra visitors when in Tyria if i feel like moving chars foward.......bahhhh!

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

I've never tried it and never planned to, but with how long it was down, I can't say I'm surprised that it's gone.

I can't say I care either. If it means more time focused on things that matter, I say go for it.

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

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Oh bugger - May was the very first time I ever entered it too.

Eep - do you think Snograt broke it?

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Good news!!
This almost made my day, but I'm sad the reason for dropping this project was not that it was 'legit' RMT and Anet changed their stance about that... this still leaves them open to sell ingame wealth for real cash in another way...

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Thank you Regina. This will at last shut some people up (maybe).

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by REDdelver View Post
Many months have passed by since most of the dumby accts purchased specifically for the XTH have slipped into acoma. While the passing of the XTH has finally come, it doesnt make it any easier knowing all this time that these accounts would eventually move on.

Im greatly saddened for the lost of everyone's extra purchased accts. We all knew that this day was coming. For this, I wish to pass along my condolences to all the people who have lost so greatly.

To the people whom had bought 1 or 2 extra...I'm very saddened...including myself.

.....and to the people who were rumored to have over 50 accts specifically to collect free keys ..........Theres an very old wise phrase that has been passed down from generation to generation from 1000's of years ago...

Sux To Be Ju!!!!


R.I.P extra accts specifically purchased for the XTH R.I.P

P.S. Could we trade in three tyrian accts for say..one eotn upgrade???? good deal no? Win win??? perrty please?


Edit. Well I guess Nicholas could get some extra visitors when in Tyria if i feel like moving chars foward.......bahhhh!
Actually, a lot of people still use extra accounts for Nicholas, botting PvP, etc. They didn't exactly go to waste for the people that have them.

P.S. I have 2 accounts, but only use one. My other account was given to me by a friend who quit GW after the XTH died.

keli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Budapest

E/

ty anet maybe the second best decision after nerfing bloodspam

Deviant Angel

Deviant Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

Mo/

I know I'm part of the minority when I say this, but good riddance.

tazer

tazer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tiny Siege Turtles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhododendron View Post
Buh bye free monthly stacks of shiny platinum..
and bye for ZKeys at ridiculously low prices ^^
finally ZKeys are exclusive for PvP players just like they were in the original idea

REDdelver

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Girls Pee Pee When They See [ME]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by tazer View Post
and bye for ZKeys at ridiculously low prices ^^
finally ZKeys are exclusive for PvP players just like they were in the original idea
If I were you, I'd keep this type of comment to yourself. The whole exclusive word wont sit well with a lot of people.

I'm merely pointing out...its easy to make a statement like this. But it could bite you. You never know what could come of this.

Just saying, I wouldnt be surprised if something like zcoin trade value gets changed if key value grows out of hand.

Lets just follow a possible scenerio you are suggesting. Pvper's now have exlusive control of zkeys and its value. The fact is, it could back fire on people wanting to sell zkeys for a huge price. If the price of a zkey goes through the roof, then "pvpers" will have a hard time selling them.

The fact is as of right now. Theres a lot of people who can generate a lot of zkeys in very little time through tourneys. At a 3,4, or 5k value...thats a lot of cash. You want to be even more greedy and make it a lot higher??

It could potentially backfire on you. Be careful to think things through.

lorenna

lorenna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Ireland

[bAd]

Mo/

although i knew this was coming as soon as they removed it..gg anet apparently been working on it for close to a year but actually been sitting there instead doing nothing xD i dont believe its cause they wanna work on gw2 either cause thats been delayed ..and our skill update i just think its cause they dont want players having all those free keys cause by the end of it i knew loads of players with 5 accounts + each just for the keys..but yeh i want my may points xD and skill update

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

Can you drop the word "new" from the title of this thread?

Tis a bit misslading. I came here thinking there was gonna be a "new" XTH.

yet it seems there will never be a "new" XTH.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

So long XTH.

kupp

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

[KISS]

W/

After almost a year with no new information, this really isn't a surprise to me. I'm still saddened with the decision and once again disappointed with Anet. Whatever.

I'd like to see Meridon's question answered though, are still going to get the points for the May predictions?

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kupp View Post
I'd like to see Meridon's question answered though, are still going to get the points for the May predictions?
I have a feeling you should prepare for more disappointment.

They said those were tied to the XTH's problem.....

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

glad we finally have the final word that they have truly given up on it (asked for that in regina's LAST thread, got what I wanted).
but still would like to have those PROMISED points! (unless anet wants to go back on yet another promise)

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
I have a feeling you should prepare for more disappointment.

They said those were tied to the XTH's problem.....
How hard would it be for anet to credit everyone a few points? I'm fairly positive you don't need to have an XTH give the points, just simple batch add point to peoples accounts in the Database, maybe enough for one or two keys.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Slydell View Post
How hard would it be for anet to credit everyone a few points? I'm fairly positive you don't need to have an XTH give the points, just simple batch add point to peoples accounts in the Database, maybe enough for one or two keys.
The problem with that is that it's significantly less than most people earned. And, Linsey has already said that they have the correct amount of points for each person and that they were bumped up to the next reward bracket. So, it shouldn't be hard for them to just give us those points. Not hard at all.

However, Anet has a way of lying to us and/or not delivering on promises. So, I still doubt we'll get them.

Pugs Not Drugs

Pugs Not Drugs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

I don't see why people are complaining. The Zkeys were free. Anet did not have to give them out. They were only there to generate interest in AT's, in which they succeeded. I only wish they had admitted it was broken beyond repair a long time ago. At least fess up to any mistakes you make.

Pursh

Pursh

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

Moscow, Russia

[lion] IGN: Monk Elvara

Mo/

Does this mean that Kun Shao is on vacation forever??
i'll miss him.

Saph

Saph

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2009

R/

Lol, when I announced this to friends, quite a few were surprised. I still never understood why they decided to revamp it in the first place. Unless this was all some elaborate scheme to get players to buy more accounts and then once multiple people have bought 5+ accounts for monthly zkeys, have it "break". Oh the conspiracies!!!! D: