Why We Farm(ed)

I don't understand why people enjoy such repetitive builds. Seems to be the opposite of what you're wanting. Believe it or not, vanquishing with 600 is actually a lot more fun than doing it with spirits or an AP caller build.

Believe it or not, vanquishing with 600 is actually a lot more fun than doing it with spirits or an AP caller build. And all 3 of those you mentioned are 'gimmicks'. I vanquish without Sabway, Discord, 600/Smite, or spirits. No Assassin's Promise, in fact, none of my characters, heroes, or hench use a single Assassin skill. So your point makes no sense. Balanced teams are more fun to me, but I also know my method is not fun for everyone.

Therefore,give us rewarding gameplay,don't drive us to farm and scrounge new farming builds from whatever 'balances' they release. Here is a problem: they have to put rewards for just playing the game.

Why? Fans demand it:

* There is group of people who are done with game and should have quit, but are addicted so much that they don't want to quit yet. You gotta give em something to do or they will be batshit pissed and loud. Just give em busy work and they'll be happy (busy work is sometimes spelled like 'skill' or 'dedication' or 'working for reward').
* There is group of players that uses game as self-esteem booster. They need easy and direct way that not everyone will go: something to grind. And they want grind to have at least some point. (grind is sometimes spelled like 'skill' or 'dedication' or 'non-isntant gratification').
* Then there is group of players who are only happy when they seem to have exclusive something. Only possible way to make something exclusive is to make it require lot of time (time is sometimes spelled 'skill' or 'dedication' or 'not being lazy').

There are some spelling issues, see, but core of problem is simple: If you reward normal gameplay, cetrain people will soon find out that they are no longer as special as they thought (everyone has fow armor? no way! it is only for meeeee!) and that they ran out of e-roin (um, i wanted to play for 8 hours today. now i have nothing to do, what do i doooooo? rl is scary!).

The reason you farmed is because:

1) You're bad at the game in that cannot make money without farming in such a crummy manner. I mean, I don't farm, yet I've always had money to buy a shed load a nice armour and weapons, so that sort of farming isn't necessary.

2) You're bad at the game and believe that having lots of money you don't need will make you good. It doesn't. TBH kinda curious as to what you think nice wps and armors are since you dont farm, since about the only way to afford rare items would be to do dungeons/elite areas to make a decent amount of money and that in and of itself is a form of farming even if u balance way it...

To each his own... after all everything we do in this game is a form of farming for titles, rep, faction, pvp rewards, etc...

I personally used to enjoy farming SoO with my 600/smite for fun, really didnt care about drops (although the bds here and there was nice) it was the challange of being able to spend 30minutes having fun killing things and completing an area.

So the nerf kinda sucks for hardcore farmers, well as with every nerf there are enough of us creative peeps out there that it will only be a matter of time before the "new farming meta's" are posted.

it's just a game... wtf is the point of doing anything? It's all for fun, if you aren't having fun why are you playing gw? /QFT

/Agree

/LMAO @ All of you

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Why I farm?
Because that's the only way to reach certain goals in this game. Agreed, we used the 600/smite duo/trio to farm materials and so we could make some progress towards filling our HoM with elite armour sets, destroyer weapons, sweet/alcohol/party titles etc etc.

Money = Fun?

I can't figure that one out. Farming is extremely dull to me. Then i can't figure out why your signature is claiming a guy who invented the first farm build after the nerf is a guru member of the week

how can it be impressive if is so dull?

And all 3 of those you mentioned are 'gimmicks'. I vanquish without Sabway, Discord, 600/Smite, or spirits. No Assassin's Promise, in fact, none of my characters, heroes, or hench use a single Assassin skill. So your point makes no sense. Balanced teams are more fun to me, but I also know my method is not fun for everyone. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO.

A "balanced" team, as you call it, is simply gimping my abilities on purpose. That doesn't make it more fun, it makes it less fun.

The reason you farmed is because:

1) You're bad at the game in that cannot make money without farming in such a crummy manner. I mean, I don't farm, yet I've always had money to buy a shed load a nice armour and weapons, so that sort of farming isn't necessary.

2) You're bad at the game and believe that having lots of money you don't need will make you good. It doesn't.
it has nothing to do with being bad at the game, and if you take time into seeing what you need to memorize in order to do a UWSC then youd understand Being bad at the game is not the matter.

let me put it in the context of real life,

If you had a choice between back-breaking work to bring in 6 digits and easy work to bring in 6 digits what the hell would you choose? I'd like to work less for it.

In game would you rather grind for maybe 4-5 ectos in the UW running it for 3 hours, or get 30-40 ectos a day doing 40 minute speedclears.

its not because theyre bad at the game, its because theyd rather take an easier path thats wide open for them.

The reason you farmed is because:

1) You're bad at the game in that cannot make money without farming in such a crummy manner. I mean, I don't farm, yet I've always had money to buy a shed load a nice armour and weapons, so that sort of farming isn't necessary.

2) You're bad at the game and believe that having lots of money you don't need will make you good. It doesn't. Hahahahaa no. i didnt farm because i was bad or crummy at the game. and i have to wonder how you got your money. because just playing the game over and over is farming too if you get loot to sell for money. and i dont believe having money makes me any better then a player that started playin in 05. it just makes it easer for me to do or get somethings i might need later on in the game.

I love posts from "leet" people... you know, "I don't use (insert gimmick here) because I am SO GOOD and you SO SUK".

They're just tools in the game, use what works for you and move on. Why get so angry?

And if the "proper" way is team play, then dump H/H. Thank you Urass

So, is this thread about how "my fun > your fun", or something? This is what Guru is mostly about.

The reason you farmed is because:

1) You're bad at the game in that cannot make money without farming in such a crummy manner. I mean, I don't farm, yet I've always had money to buy a shed load a nice armour and weapons, so that sort of farming isn't necessary.

2) You're bad at the game and believe that having lots of money you don't need will make you good. It doesn't. I rarely farmed,I power traded lin a more old school manner. I rarely play the game because there's no reward,farming was/is the rewarding bit in GW. Leave your cynical assumptions somewhere else.

The reason you farmed is because:

1) You're bad at the game in that cannot make money without farming in such a crummy manner. I mean, I don't farm, yet I've always had money to buy a shed load a nice armour and weapons, so that sort of farming isn't necessary.

2) You're bad at the game and believe that having lots of money you don't need will make you good. It doesn't. I am slightly skeptical about these two comments, in fact they are poor assumptions and just about downright wrong. Farming doesn't mean you're a bad player, it's just the most time efficient way of making money in terms of PvE rewards, and therefore "wastes" less time than making money from dungeon rewards or another alternative.

Also, as someone else has previously suggested, I doubt you have been able to buy a "shed load of nice armour and weapons" without farming, unless you powertraded, which definitely requires no gameplaying skill (please note i have nothing against power-trading, it is my own natural game strategy ), only natural flair for trading and striking deals, or you have spent a lot of time on the game and played lengthly and regularly, in which case this only reinforces the point that farming is done because of efficieny in cash making.

I also have to disagree that having lots of money/valuable items doesn't make you "good", because of course in a sense it makes you good, it just does not however neccesarily reflect your ability to complete quests or win PvP battles.

To answer this threads question, what I can say about why farming was so popular is because, in guild wars, the level cap is low, so items and material (or pixel) wealth was the main way of showing your experience and percieved to be proof of your ability to play the game well, which is not untrue.

And yes I agree with Xsiriss that just playing the game in general should be more rewarding, as you amass about 40k for completing a whole campaign whereas farming yielded, and still can yield, more in an hour. This is just my personal opinion, but I think that PvP rewards should be greater, although I see it wouldn't really be worth it with a game which is rapidly deteriorating, so maybe GW2 will grant my wish.

My work here is done

Money = Fun?

I can't figure that one out. Farming is extremely dull to me. Dammit man thank you.was looking for a post like that

"...farming is extremely dull to ME"

It is dull/boring for YOU,but for people like me it is fun.
TBH it was the whole reason i came back to GW 1 month ago...may leave again...not Q_Qing but seriously,doing any campaign again is FAR from question to me.it is extremely boring to ME.

UW with balanced parties is fun,yes,but some people like me like doing it with their friends,and my guild is to laid back and small for it.So thats why I like solo/duo.Because my friends can tag along and the run still works....

So yes,we have different opinions,but if you find farming boring...dont do it?

PS:I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH MAKING SOLO FARMING DIFFICULT,BUT DISAGREE WITH MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE.