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MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

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11 Mar 2010 at 22:57 - 1

Update - Thursday, March 11, 2010

Creature Skill Bars

Creature skill bars affected by the February 25th update have been updated.

Elementalist Skills

Glimmering Mark

Charged Blackness now uses Lightning Surge instead of Glimmering Mark.

Obsidian Flesh

Bizzr Ironshell now also uses Icy Prism.
Harn Coldstone still uses Obsidian Flesh, but now uses Rust instead of Conjure Frost, and also uses Glyph of Lesser Energy and Shard Storm.
Mantis Stormcaller now also uses Icy Prism.
Shekoss the Stony now also uses Ebon Hawk.
Whyk Steelshell now also uses Lava Arrows.

Necromancer Skills

Barbed Signet

Mandragor Imp (Level 3) now uses Blood of the Aggressor instead of Barbed Signet.

Jaundiced Gaze

Afflicted Necromancer (Level 14) now uses Blood Drinker instead of Jaundiced Gaze.
Fungal Wallow now uses Vampiric Gaze instead of Jaundiced Gaze.
Rot Foulbelly now uses Vampiric Gaze instead of Jaundiced Gaze.
Rot Wallow now uses Vampiric Gaze instead of Jaundiced Gaze.

Ritualist Skills

Renewing Surge

Lieutenant Kayin now uses Spirit Boon Strike instead of Renewing Surge.

Warrior Skills

Dwarven Battle Stance

Boulder Elemental now uses Crude Swing in normal and Hard modes.
Boulder Elemental (Hard mode) now uses Warrior's Endurance instead of Dwarven Battle Stance.
Dwarven Ghost now uses Warrior's Endurance instead of Dwarven Battle Stance.
Hulking Stone Elemental now uses Crude Swing in normal and Hard modes.
Hulking Stone Elemental (Hard mode) now uses Warrior's Endurance instead of Dwarven Battle Stance.
Krak Flamewhip (Warrior) now uses Devastating Hammer instead of Dwarven Battle Stance.
Summit Beastmaster (Hard mode) now uses Devastating Hammer instead of Dwarven Battle Stance.
Summit Giant Herder now uses Devastating Hammer instead of Dwarven Battle Stance.

Fierce Blow

Sunreach Warmaker now also uses Staggering Blow.

Overbearing Smash

Berserking Minotaur now uses Auspicious Blow instead of Overbearing Smash.
Malfunctioning Enduring Golem now uses Irresistible Blow instead of Overbearing Smash.
TPS Regulator Golem now uses Auspicious Blow instead of Overbearing Smash.

Renewing Smash

Deldrimor Dwarves (Eye of the North)

Dwarven Soldier now uses Staggering Blow instead of Renewing Smash.
King Jalis Ironhammer now uses Crude Swing instead of Renewing Smash.
Orozar Highstone now uses Irresistible Blow instead of Renewing Smash.
Transformed Soldier now uses Staggering Blow instead of Renewing Smash.
Ural Highstone now uses Irresistible Blow instead of Renewing Smash.

Stone Summit Dwarves (Eye of the North)

Marln Steelfist now uses Staggering Blow instead of Renewing Smash.
Stone Summit Crusher now uses Staggering Blow instead of Renewing Smash.
Stone Summit Pounder now uses Mighty Blow instead of Renewing Smash.
Taskmaster Durgon now uses Staggering Blow instead of Renewing Smash.

Shove

Sickened Guard (Ranger) in Hard mode now uses Quick Shot instead of Shove.

Yeti Smash

The AI now uses Yeti Smash more intelligently.
Abyssal (Domain of Anguish) now uses Overbearing Smash instead of Yeti Smash.
Arrahhsh Mountainclub (Jade Sea) now also uses Staggering Blow.
Crystal Ettin now uses Crude Swing instead of Yeti Smash.
Devona (Factions) still uses Yeti Smash, but now uses Staggering Blow instead of Mighty Blow.
Eldritch Ettin now uses Crude Swing instead of Yeti Smash.
First Inscribed now also uses Belly Smash.
Paranoia Ettin now uses Crude Swing instead of Yeti Smash.
Yeti (Jade Sea) now also uses Staggering Blow.

Additional Skill Bar Updates

Ilidus of the Empty Palm no longer uses Black Lotus Strike or Shadow Refuge, and now uses Fox Fangs, Golden Lotus Strike, and Nine Tails Strike instead.
Luxon Assassin now uses Fox Fangs instead of Black Lotus Strike.
Senkai, Lord of the 1,000 Daggers Guild now also uses Enduring Toxin, Fox Fangs, and Repeating Strike.
Shreader Sharptongue now also uses Fox Fangs and Mantis Touch.

Bug Fixes

Fixed a bug that prevented Soul Twisting from refreshing the number of remaining Binding Rituals when it was reapplied.
Fixed a bug that caused Urgoz to apply Binding Chains for 30 seconds.
Fixed a bug that allowed players to Shadow Step past portals in Slavers' Exile.
Fixed a bug that awarded completion of the Admiral Kantoh Zaishen Bounty quest for killing the Acolyte of Balthazar.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb...dates/20100311

http://www.guildwars.com/support/gam...es/default.php

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

11 Mar 2010 at 22:58 - 2

They forgot to fix the bug that allowed Seeping Wound to exist.

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

11 Mar 2010 at 22:58 - 3

Devona (Factions) still uses Yeti Smash

I lolled at this

We'll they admitted shadow stepping in slaver portals were possibel (again or is it still)

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

11 Mar 2010 at 22:59 - 4

Ah, you beat my thread. Well, at least mine looks better

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

11 Mar 2010 at 23:04 - 5

omg they had all this time do to this stuff but not to tell us what this weekend is or add it to login screen? lols. and double lols at the slavers bug fix! xD

rangereminem1984

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

R/Mo

11 Mar 2010 at 23:04 - 6

well the glich for duncon is fixed

Perfected Shadow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Zul'Aman

Umes Uranger U[bot]

11 Mar 2010 at 23:06 - 7

Monsters take priority over mesmers/dervishes/rangers in pve.

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

11 Mar 2010 at 23:06 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangereminem1984

well the glich for duncon is fixed

Bout time. And Soul Twisting Fix.

Donno how I feel about the actual update though. Seems like they just replaced powerful skills with less powerful ones on mobs :/

Grim Aragorn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A/

11 Mar 2010 at 23:07 - 9

*Fixed a bug that caused Urgoz to apply Binding Chains for 30 seconds

about time.....

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

11 Mar 2010 at 23:20 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Aragorn

*Fixed a bug that caused Urgoz to apply Binding Chains for 30 seconds

about time.....

Was Urgoz using the new version of Binding Chains with a 30 sec duration?

Amy Awien

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

11 Mar 2010 at 23:22 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow

Monsters take priority over mesmers/dervishes/rangers in pve.

Well, they were more in need of a buff then Me/R/D.

dr love

...is in denial

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hyperion

starcraft 2

P/Me

11 Mar 2010 at 23:29 - 12

RIP duncan SC. at least we got to have fun with it for 1 day. I wonder how long the secret had been kept before the screenshot...

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

11 Mar 2010 at 23:32 - 13

Ah, so that's how the Duncan exploit worked...

I see that nothing was done to address Afflicted Assassins still casting Shadow Form only when they're on the lowest of health.

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

11 Mar 2010 at 23:37 - 14

I heard that the Duncan exploit worked by shadow stepping with Heart of shadow through the portal to Justiciar Thommis. If done right you could land in the blackness beyond the protal without mapping in then run around the outside to Duncan.

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

11 Mar 2010 at 23:40 - 15

I'm waiting for a monster to log into Guru to gripe about their skill nerf.

Mokeiro

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

11 Mar 2010 at 23:41 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow

Monsters take priority over mesmers/dervishes/rangers in pve.

My next class will be a monster.

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

R/N

11 Mar 2010 at 23:42 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

Ah, so that's how the Duncan exploit worked...

I see that nothing was done to address Afflicted Assassins still casting Shadow Form only when they're on the lowest of health.

They should fix that and some casting times applied to some skills like Icy Veins. AI still wont use them when they should .

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

11 Mar 2010 at 23:42 - 18

So....they fixed Soul Twisting, but left Smiter's Boon bugged?

That's a little weird.

Welthas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Pennsylvania

E/

11 Mar 2010 at 23:44 - 19

Seriously, they fixed the duncan glitch

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

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W/

11 Mar 2010 at 23:46 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Ah, you beat my thread. Well, at least mine looks better

First draft was just copy+paste. I did some formatting after.

Quote:

# Luxon Assassin now uses Fox Fangs instead of Black Lotus Strike.
# Senkai, Lord of the 1,000 Daggers Guild now also uses Enduring Toxin, Fox Fangs, and Repeating Strike.

It looks like 55 N/Mo Halcyon Job farm is nerfed, unless the build is revised. Off the top of my head, Dwarven Stability or "I Am Unstoppable!" and moderate healing or regen should do. Anti-KD takes care of their attack chain fix, and Insidious Parasite alone should handle the moderate degen from the boss.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

11 Mar 2010 at 23:49 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by makosi

Was Urgoz using the new version of Binding Chains with a 30 sec duration?

oh yeah, it wasnt pretty sight at 30 seconds of it......thought there was something amiss with it----glad it was fixed (was it????)

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

11 Mar 2010 at 23:51 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaven

I'm waiting for a monster to log into Guru to gripe about their skill nerf.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=119

-Makai-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

WA

DH

Rt/

11 Mar 2010 at 23:53 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelgadissan

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=119

Wow...that's too incredible for words.

As for the update, it's nice to see the opposition get some much needed attention. I'm hoping this won't wreck my Hulking Stone Elemental farm too much, though.

EDIT: Energy management + Crude Swing on a monster. Nevermind.

sthpaw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Australia, Sydney

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

W/

11 Mar 2010 at 23:55 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosyfiep

oh yeah, it wasnt pretty sight at 30 seconds of it......thought there was something amiss with it----glad it was fixed (was it????)

yes it was pretty bad, went with a balanced team to help out a friend get it on their HoM and wiped cause of no hex removal.

was thinking are we the bad in pve now omg gvg makes u a bad pver lolz

Windf0rce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

11 Mar 2010 at 23:58 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow

Monsters take priority over mesmers/dervishes/rangers in pve.

I laughed.

WarcryOfTruth

Site Contributor

Join Date: Nov 2009

Atlanta

[LIFE]

P/

12 Mar 2010 at 00:00 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelWJedi

omg they had all this time do to this stuff but not to tell us what this weekend is or add it to login screen? lols. and double lols at the slavers bug fix! xD

Well with St. Patrick's day coming up, it is assumed that that is what the weekend event will be

. Four-Leaf Clovers and Shamrock Ale. Maybe it's this weekend or next, I am not sure, but you are right, it usually is posted by now

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

12 Mar 2010 at 00:06 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelgadissan

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=119

OMG! i almost fell out of my chair from laughing to hard. that sir was to funny! i loved it! to bad no one made more like this. it would be something funny and cute to read.

Axeman002

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2008

A/Mo

12 Mar 2010 at 00:15 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

It looks like 55 N/Mo Halcyon Job farm is nerfed, unless the build is revised. Off the top of my head, Dwarven Stability or "I Am Unstoppable!" and moderate healing or regen should do. Anti-KD takes care of their attack chain fix, and Insidious Parasite alone should handle the moderate degen from the boss.

there's plenty of allies there to stand beside to preventy KD, i took iau too but never used it.....anet just made the last thing i login for less enjoyable...ah well nvm im quitting PC gaming anyway so not arsed lol

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

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12 Mar 2010 at 00:23 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman002

there's plenty of allies there to stand beside to preventy KD, i took iau too but never used it

That's a good point. The boss will be able to fulfill the condition for Iron Palm if I'm not mistaken. I did not actually test anything yet. I guess a minipet may even be possible to pop an ally, if only they didn't wander about so much.

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

12 Mar 2010 at 00:30 - 30

Did they ban those who exploited duncan?

JimmyNeutron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

12 Mar 2010 at 00:53 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

Did they ban those who exploited duncan?

Nope, because if they do, they would have to ban everyone that exploited the bug in Arachni where you don't need a key to zone on Level 1. Everyone meaning not just the runner for Arachni, but everyone that bought a run too because those who bought the run knows that the runner of Arachni never really kill the 2 bosses require for the key on Level 1.

Also, ANET would need to ban everyone that use the Portal Jumping Project, which is the same bug as Duncan. A lot of people used it for cart title.

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

12 Mar 2010 at 01:00 - 32

The difference however is that they stated specifically that they were looking into those who exploited Duncan.

I'd prefer that anyone who uses an exploit be banned, whether permanent or temporary. Including those who use Arachni exploits even those who get runs. Ban them all. They agreed to not utilize exploits, ban them. They want to continue to play? Buy a new account.

bilinast

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

R/

12 Mar 2010 at 01:03 - 33

I wanna make friend with that "monster", Mindblade Spectre for once!

drunk n angry

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2009

in a quiet little town that i love.

Ancient Dragoons [AGED]

W/

12 Mar 2010 at 01:06 - 34

i cant load gw after update?.... it just does the small loading square and go's connecting to arenanet..... fully loads that then go's downloading..... and then it quits 1 second later it restarts and it wont stop doing this. plz help!

JimmyNeutron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

12 Mar 2010 at 01:10 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

The difference however is that they stated specifically that they were looking into those who exploited Duncan.

I'd prefer that anyone who uses an exploit be banned, whether permanent or temporary. Including those who use Arachni exploits even those who get runs. Ban them all. They agreed to not utilize exploits, ban them. They want to continue to play? Buy a new account.

Really? Who said ANET will look into those that exploited Duncan? Was it my posting? PRE-APRIL FOOL!!!! You didn't read my other posting at the end. Go read the Game Bug section and my postings at the end.

Also, if they ban for this, they would need to ban for Ghost Runner bug and every bugs in the entire game because people knew a bug existed and take took advantaged of it.

BTW, who says the bug is fixed everywhere????? Sure, Duncan ***MAY*** be fixed, but what about all the other dungeons?????

Have fun!!!

Killamus

Guest

Join Date: Oct 2008

12 Mar 2010 at 01:16 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

The difference however is that they stated specifically that they were looking into those who exploited Duncan.

I'd prefer that anyone who uses an exploit be banned, whether permanent or temporary. Including those who use Arachni exploits even those who get runs. Ban them all. They agreed to not utilize exploits, ban them. They want to continue to play? Buy a new account.

Yes, because you've never utilized an exploit? You've never HFFF, never used HoS and bypassed a portal by accident, etc, etc?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiki

An exploit is an official term referring to players utilizing a bug in the game to unfairly benefit their characters or account. An exploit can be a weakness in a difficult mission or quest that allows players to finish it easily and gain the rewards without much effort. It could also be an error in the game whereby players can become invulnerable to damage, or make lots of money by fiddling with the merchant window or any such similar form of cheating to profit.

Because damn, the first one sounds a lot like the alternate route in Nolani, while the second sounds a lot like Shadow form.

And while you may not have used shadow form (Because it's not really an exploit, though a lot of people believe it to be so), you probably did do Nolani, and HM if you were going for the title. So either you have mad skilz, or you know that the alternate route made this mission actually possible, because of Captn Suicide out there. Out of 3 characters I've done that mission on, only one (The monk, unsurprisingly) was able to do it without the "Exploit" of the "Alternate" route.

If you ban anyone who's used an exploit, then you're going to be left with a very empty world, left with people who either no longer play or just got the game.

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

12 Mar 2010 at 01:32 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyNeutron

Have fun!!!

looks like you got your million dollar question answered in that other thread here =p

good to see the updates nows

Braxton619

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

A/W

12 Mar 2010 at 01:35 - 38

Woo MQSC is easier now! Thank god for no enchantment stripping wallows!

Kumu Honua

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

12 Mar 2010 at 01:38 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killamus

Yes, because you've never utilized an exploit? You've never HFFF, never used HoS and bypassed a portal by accident, etc, etc?

Nope. Never done HFFF, never used HoS and bypassed a portal.

Quote:

Because damn, the first one sounds a lot like the alternate route in Nolani, while the second sounds a lot like Shadow form.

You will notice that the quote states...and I'll bold the ACTUAL important parts for you...

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiki

An exploit is an official term referring to players utilizing a bug in the game to unfairly benefit their characters or account. An exploit can be a weakness in a difficult mission or quest that allows players to finish it easily and gain the rewards without much effort. It could also be an error in the game whereby players can become invulnerable to damage, or make lots of money by fiddling with the merchant window or any such similar form of cheating to profit.

Quote:

And while you may not have used shadow form (Because it's not really an exploit, though a lot of people believe it to be so), you probably did do Nolani, and HM if you were going for the title. So either you have mad skilz, or you know that the alternate route made this mission actually possible, because of Captn Suicide out there. Out of 3 characters I've done that mission on, only one (The monk, unsurprisingly) was able to do it without the "Exploit" of the "Alternate" route.

Using a skill is not an exploit. Using a skill in a manner that voids game mechanics to provide an advantage that is totally unintended (For example: Bypassing 4 other bosses and locked doors) is what is an exploit.

I didn't even know about the alternate route till you told me. I've always just kept Rurik alive. I believe that to actually be even easier. No time limit. Just keep him alive. Not difficult. Even in HM. I am a Ranger too. Not only that but many call my build to be "Silly". So if you can't do it then perhaps I in fact do have "mad skillz"...

Quote:

If you ban anyone who's used an exploit, then you're going to be left with a very empty world, left with people who either no longer play or just got the game.

Methinks you overestimate the amount of people who exploit. Even the Mallyx event had a very very small amount of people banned. The world wasn't suddenly barren then. I doubt the world would be barren now should Duncan include bans for those who exploited the game.

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

12 Mar 2010 at 01:54 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

Did they ban those who exploited duncan?

It'll wind up like RR, no statement and no action...better to just not trouble yourself with it if precedent is any indicator. On the other hand they could have already hit the big fish, there's really no way to know.