"War in Kryta" Costume Set - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

19 Apr 2010 at 02:30 - 241

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daesu

Didn't someone say that you need those new costumes to finish the new quest chains? (e.g. disguise as white mantle, etc.)

There are no quest at the moment, unless you want to count the Gwen and Prophecies scavenger hunt of past birthday and other event items. As far as the other new content dialog all you need to have done it complete Prophecies or Eton you will be able to view it. Some times it takes three of four rezones to get it to spawn.

You do not need the costume for any of the newly added or upcoming stuff.

This link should tell you all that you need to know.

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

19 Apr 2010 at 02:54 - 242

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zehnchu

There are no quest at the moment, unless you want to count the Gwen and Prophecies scavenger hunt of past birthday and other event items. As far as the other new content dialog all you need to have done it complete Prophecies or Eton you will be able to view it. Some times it takes three of four rezones to get it to spawn.

You do not need the costume for any of the newly added or upcoming stuff.

This link should tell you all that you need to know.

12chars Thanks.

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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19 Apr 2010 at 06:45 - 243

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Originally Posted by Being

...Nobody needs to buy these and any who do don't get any advantages over who don't.

And quite frankly they can charge what they like - it's their game.

Indeed. Those costumes do not provide any boost and only thing that focing someone to buy them are cool looks and empty inventory slot.

However, there is one issue: Price/Content ratio is off the charts and costumes cosnt nearly as much as whole campaign.

It is understandable - live team can not provide enough content on their own. Selling dismatle&co content would be even worse as far as content-starved community reaction goes. So yay!

I have one thing to ponder and ask: If Prophecies was released today, would 15k armors still cost 15k pixel gold or would they cost 15 bucks? After all, it is just cosmetic thing...

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

19 Apr 2010 at 06:47 - 244

Quote:

Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

Costumes, good for some, not for me. I don't need to look great to be great. Anyone who bases someone's skill and ability based on an outfit is truly depressing.

That is the right attitude.

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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19 Apr 2010 at 16:11 - 245

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

However, there is one issue: Price/Content ratio is off the charts and costumes cosnt nearly as much as whole campaign.

Costumes cost as much as a 3,5-5 years old campaign, or a 2,5 years old expansion.

What game still retains its original price after that much time?

J I L T

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2009

Mo/

19 Apr 2010 at 18:38 - 246

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

I have one thing to ponder and ask: If Prophecies was released today, would 15k armors still cost 15k pixel gold or would they cost 15 bucks? After all, it is just cosmetic thing...

Actually since 15k armor can be dedicated it isn't just cosmetic anymore. Plus if we had to pay for armor logically we could get it immediately after purchase which would be an advantage for lower level characters. So they can't really be compared to costumes in that way.

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

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19 Apr 2010 at 18:39 - 247

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

I have one thing to ponder and ask: If Prophecies was released today, would 15k armors still cost 15k pixel gold or would they cost 15 bucks? After all, it is just cosmetic thing...

I would say they would still cost gold, but probably 10k instead of 15k. the reason why? Functionality. If you notice, none of the items in the cash shop are needed for the game. Some may argue that you do need the storage panes, or that the skill/pet unlock is helpful, but you dont exactly need them, and the pets/skills can be gotten in game. the rest of the stuff is purely cosmetic.

It is something I have noticed with Anet. If something is needed for the game, they will put it straight in, instead of making it a premium item/zone like most of the other F2P games with item malls do. the closest thing to a premium zone in the game is the BMP, and even then once you have bought it, it is open for you forever (or at least till the day comes the switch is flicked on the GW servers).

With the armor, it isnt just cosmetic, it serves a purpose in the game. Would you rather one basic set and have to buy costumes to make it look different? I know I wouldn't, and Anet knows most players wouldnt either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arduin

Costumes cost as much as a 3,5-5 years old campaign, or a 2,5 years old expansion.

What game still retains its original price after that much time?

Not to mention the original quoter was a bit off base. checking the GW store, Proph is US$19.99 and Fact/NF are US$29.99 each, so it isnt even nearly

Sidenote: thanks to current conversion rates and my having to go through the EU store I ended up getting the costumes for cheaper (go Aussie dollar!)

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Apr 2010 at 01:37 - 248

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariovist Lynxkind

Not to mention the original quoter was a bit off base. checking the GW store, Proph is US$19.99 and Fact/NF are US$29.99 each, so it isnt even nearly

Sidenote: thanks to current conversion rates and my having to go through the EU store I ended up getting the costumes for cheaper (go Aussie dollar!)

You can find them cheaper than that. Guild Wars Trilogy which contains all three is only $19.99 at direct2drive.

On a somewhat related note, direct2drive also has Grand Theft Auto IV for $7.50 this week. Thats a hell of a lot more content than two costumes, and a few bucks cheaper. I'd recommend GTA4 over the costumes if you haven't played it.

Turbo Ginsu

I despise facebook

Join Date: Feb 2008

Australia

Meeting of the Lost Minds

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20 Apr 2010 at 02:44 - 249

I nearly bought these, really do like the look of the shining blade gear. Then I saw them...

If I thought that chaos gloves with their very own transparency boxes, not unlike the personal force shields in Dune(De Laurentiis), were bad, well..

The neat white dot-to-dots that almost entirely cover every single edge on the Shining Blade costumes killed it for me. Sorry, but it's bad enough having to see them running around my screen on other ppl, let alone have to look at it on my toon.

No outlandish gfx card, just an nv9600, no whacky settings, all is default, still dodgy textures, dotty edges, and personal-shield chaos gloves.

IMO, aNet need to go through and fix the majority of their since-eotn textures and edges before they release anything else, because to me, it's just looking like bugs upon bugs upon bugs, and that ain't getting a cent of my filthy lucre...

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

20 Apr 2010 at 03:04 - 250

Once upon a time in this game, people used to buy 15k armor to look nicer, or richer. With the introduction of costumes, the incentive to get a 15k armor over a 1.5k armor has dwindled. The fact that HoM has become account based has also reduces the need to get 15k armor for all my characters. It also reduces the need for me to get the prestigious obsidian armor for my characters when I am going to cover them with a costume anyway.

The other side effect of having fewer costumes than armor is that people in the game, tend to wear the same thing, like some kind of guild wars uniform.

Test Me

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

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20 Apr 2010 at 15:00 - 251

Costumes are here to stay, get used to it.

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

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20 Apr 2010 at 18:17 - 252

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daesu

Once upon a time in this game, people used to buy 15k armor to look nicer, or richer. With the introduction of costumes, the incentive to get a 15k armor over a 1.5k armor has dwindled. The fact that HoM has become account based has also reduces the need to get 15k armor for all my characters. It also reduces the need for me to get the prestigious obsidian armor for my characters when I am going to cover them with a costume anyway.

The other side effect of having fewer costumes than armor is that people in the game, tend to wear the same thing, like some kind of guild wars uniform.

For me, the majority of the incentive to get 15k armor diminished when they released 10k armor....

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

21 Apr 2010 at 01:50 - 253

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariovist Lynxkind

For me, the majority of the incentive to get 15k armor diminished when they released 10k armor....

The incentive to get 10k armor or obsidian armor or 15k armor is gone with the release of costumes that cover everything up anyway.

All you need to do now is to get the cheapest maxed armor for all your characters and cover it up with a costume and nobody would care if you have obsidian armor beneath that or just droks. Well...maybe just get five 10k armor for HoM, which is account based now, and be done with it.

Soja Aurion

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Nashville, Tennessee, United Imperial States of America

Darkstar Industries [DSI]

R/W

21 Apr 2010 at 02:22 - 254

The Shining Blade ones look pretty nice. Might just be me since I'm a Ranger by nature.

I'll probably get these sometime later (but before May 31).

trankle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

BloodBath & Beyond

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21 Apr 2010 at 02:36 - 255

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daesu

The incentive to get 10k armor or obsidian armor or 15k armor is gone with the release of costumes that cover everything up anyway.

All you need to do now is to get the cheapest maxed armor for all your characters and cover it up with a costume and nobody would care if you have obsidian armor beneath that or just droks. Well...maybe just get five 10k armor for HoM, which is account based now, and be done with it.

Why not just get the armor or costume you think looks the best on your character? What other incentive is there for what you're actually going to wear?

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

R/

21 Apr 2010 at 02:52 - 256

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daesu

The incentive to get 10k armor or obsidian armor or 15k armor is gone with the release of costumes that cover everything up anyway.

All you need to do now is to get the cheapest maxed armor for all your characters and cover it up with a costume and nobody would care if you have obsidian armor beneath that or just droks. Well...maybe just get five 10k armor for HoM, which is account based now, and be done with it.

The costumes are okay, but it all depends on what you want for your character. But yeah, the 40k/50k armor to me is a bit more appealing than the 60k/75k armor. then again you have obi and vabbi armor which have their own category (vabbi is 20k/25k, but mats make it way more), but at the end of the day it is more what you will be looking at rather than how you want to look to others.

TBH though, there are quite a few out there that their 5k sets look better than their prestige counterpart

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

21 Apr 2010 at 02:58 - 257

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soja Aurion

The Shining Blade ones look pretty nice. Might just be me since I'm a Ranger by nature.

I'll probably get these sometime later (but before May 31).

Be careful with these costumes.

Here are three shots of my ranger, one in his normal armour (with his gut outlined), one in the costume (again, with the gut outlined) and then a shot with them overlayed on top of one another and you can see the difference. I doesn't look bad on a warrior, but on rangers (and StormX's ele from a few pages back) it just looks wrong.

Higurashi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

[Lod]

A/

21 Apr 2010 at 03:02 - 258

they should add another bonus mission pack than costumes at least the BMP gave u weapons for heroes and passes the time when your bored

Soja Aurion

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Nashville, Tennessee, United Imperial States of America

Darkstar Industries [DSI]

R/W

21 Apr 2010 at 03:02 - 259

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowbaneX

Be careful with these costumes.

Here are three shots of my ranger, one in his normal armour (with his gut outlined), one in the costume (again, with the gut outlined) and then a shot with them overlayed on top of one another and you can see the difference. I doesn't look bad on a warrior, but on rangers (and StormX's ele from a few pages back) it just looks wrong.

wtflol

I don't know now. I don't want to look like I ate the guy I got the uniform from. 8|

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

R/

21 Apr 2010 at 03:11 - 260

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowbaneX

Be careful with these costumes.

Here are three shots of my ranger, one in his normal armour (with his gut outlined), one in the costume (again, with the gut outlined) and then a shot with them overlayed on top of one another and you can see the difference. I doesn't look bad on a warrior, but on rangers (and StormX's ele from a few pages back) it just looks wrong.

Yup, this is my issue too. the female ones of both look okay, but the male ones bulk up and it just looks odd...

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

21 Apr 2010 at 06:51 - 261

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soja Aurion

wtflol

I don't know now. I don't want to look like I ate the guy I got the uniform from. 8|

The mantle (the green clothing) is loose and opened up there's also a thick belt across the chest underneath. They are just multiple overlapping layers. Sure, the final result is that your character looks bulkier when looked sideways, but it's rather fine to me: you're wearing a hooded cape over these clothes after all...

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

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21 Apr 2010 at 08:27 - 262

Come on, guys, you finally get a chance to take the corset off for a bit, and you complain?

Scarlett Romanov

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

21 Apr 2010 at 21:24 - 263

I wonder if it would be possible for Regina to tell us how many costumes they've sold. I'm mighty curious to see the number since I see so very few of them running around in-game.

Anyway, my first post about the costumes was bitchy. I've come to love them despite their flaws. 10x than the Wintersday garbage outfits. <3

4thVariety

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

European Union

ADL

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21 Apr 2010 at 23:21 - 264

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowbaneX

Be careful with these costumes.

Here are three shots of my ranger, one in his normal armour (with his gut outlined), one in the costume (again, with the gut outlined) and then a shot with them overlayed on top of one another and you can see the difference. I doesn't look bad on a warrior, but on rangers (and StormX's ele from a few pages back) it just looks wrong.

It's a William Shattner Costume.

Operations

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Saint Louis, MI (yes, it exists)

Pylons of Bastet [PofB]

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21 Apr 2010 at 23:48 - 265

I just wear mine and run around yelling, "BEEFCAKE!!!! BEEFCAKE!!!"

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

22 Apr 2010 at 00:04 - 266

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov

I wonder if it would be possible for Regina to tell us how many costumes they've sold. I'm mighty curious to see the number since I see so very few of them running around in-game.

We can't discuss sales numbers, but we're happy with how they've done.

We're super glad with the way players have gotten involved in the War in Kryta event, and that extends to the costumes.

Mokeiro

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

22 Apr 2010 at 00:32 - 267

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

We can't discuss sales numbers...

Translation: We can't say how much insane money we did by selling a few hours of designers work, because the "oh Anet needs money because they are dying of starvation, lets buy all the stuff they drop in the store" would fail.

Some smart guys are growing rich thank to some not-so smart guys, thats life.

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

22 Apr 2010 at 01:08 - 268

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

We can't discuss sales numbers, but we're happy with how they've done.

Does this mean we get to see a mini expansion in the not so far future or they didn't do that well?

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

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22 Apr 2010 at 12:41 - 269

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mokeiro

Translation: We can't say how much insane money we did by selling a few hours of designers work, because the "oh Anet needs money because they are dying of starvation, lets buy all the stuff they drop in the store" would fail.

Some smart guys are growing rich thank to some not-so smart guys, thats life.

This is why the CM team stays over at GW2Guru...

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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22 Apr 2010 at 12:48 - 270

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mokeiro

Translation: We can't say how much insane money we did by selling a few hours of designers work, because the "oh Anet needs money because they are dying of starvation, lets buy all the stuff they drop in the store" would fail.

Some smart guys are growing rich thank to some not-so smart guys, thats life.

Which you entirely can blame the community for. People started saying they bought costumes to support (the development) of GW1/2. Anet had nothing to do with it.

Centaur

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

[RBL]

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22 Apr 2010 at 13:13 - 271

Well, let's be fair... Anet are most likely earning a lot less money on us than they would with an MMO with a monthly subscription fee. Despite this, they still have a team of people supporting GW1 and creating the occasional update. Remember that the whole War in Kryta event did/does involve a group of people working on it, and they don't work for free!

But instead of saying: "okay, everyone who wants to participate in the War in Kryta event and quests and the 5th anniversary celebration, can download the Anniversary Pack from our store", they're saying: "everyone gets the War in Kryta completely for free, but if you want, you can support us by buying these costumes".

Personally, I am very happy that they're handling it this way, as the choice is entirely yours, and even if you decide not to buy, it does not give those who did buy them an advantage in-game, nor does it make any of the new content inaccessible to you.

So thanks a lot for handling it this way, Anet... you have my support!

aeronox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

22 Apr 2010 at 13:17 - 272

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centaur

they're saying: "everyone gets the War in Kryta completely for free..."

I must have missed this. Who said it and where?

Centaur

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

[RBL]

R/

22 Apr 2010 at 13:29 - 273

Quote:

Originally Posted by aeronox

I must have missed this. Who said it and where?

Well, if there has been any mention of War in Kryta related updates for GW1 that require payment, then I must have missed that. So far, all the (automatic) updates were given to everyone for free, and I have not read anything to suggest that this will change...

trankle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

BloodBath & Beyond

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22 Apr 2010 at 13:58 - 274

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mokeiro

Translation: We can't say how much insane money we did by selling a few hours of designers work, because the "oh Anet needs money because they are dying of starvation, lets buy all the stuff they drop in the store" would fail.

Some smart guys are growing rich thank to some not-so smart guys, thats life.

Dude, get over yourself already.

A company offered a product for a price. Some customers thought the product had value to them at that price, and some didn't. This is just like every other non-essential purchase decision that we come across in our lives.

I bought the Kryta costume pack for $9.99, because I determined it was worth that to me. In NYC, that $9.99 would have bought me a Scotch at my local bar. So I'll skip that Scotch and watch my characters run around in funny new clothes. No big deal.

I also determined that the Wintersday costumes did not have that value to me, so I didn't buy them. Nor I did I buy the extra storage panels. That I did not buy them does not mean I somehow outsmarted the diabolical tricksters at Anet; it simply means I determined the price of those items to exceed their value to me.

Video game publishers get held to some pretty weird standards when it comes to trying to sell products.

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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22 Apr 2010 at 14:14 - 275

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centaur

But instead of saying: "okay, everyone who wants to participate in the War in Kryta event and quests and the 5th anniversary celebration, can download the Anniversary Pack from our store", they're saying: "everyone gets the War in Kryta completely for free, but if you want, you can support us by buying these costumes".

Okay, that's just silly, where can I find Anet saying we can support them by giving money?

I bought the costumes because I like them. But supporting a company by giving them money? Laughing Out Loud.

Ravious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Servants of Fortuna

N/Mo

22 Apr 2010 at 14:38 - 276

Quote:

Originally Posted by trankle

I bought the Kryta costume pack for $9.99, because I determined it was worth that to me. In NYC, that $9.99 would have bought me a Scotch at my local bar. So I'll skip that Scotch and watch my characters run around in funny new clothes. No big deal.

That's some crappy Scotch, then. I kid, I kid.

Centaur

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

[RBL]

R/

22 Apr 2010 at 14:39 - 277

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arduin

Okay, that's just silly, where can I find Anet saying we can support them by giving money?

I bought the costumes because I like them. But supporting a company by giving them money? Laughing Out Loud.

You may think it's silly, and Anet will probably never state out loud that you can support them by giving them money, as few people would do it if there's nothing in it for them as well (that obviously includes you). So yes, they give you a set of costumes in return. But let's face it... more than likely designing these 2 costumes cost them significantly less than what it brings in, so from a business point of view, these customes are in fact paying (at least part of) the wages of the people on the GW1 team, who are otherwise not generating any income. So by buying the costumes, you allow the GW1 team to exist a little longer.

So if the costumes sell well enough, it will be Anet who's Laughing Out Loud

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

22 Apr 2010 at 21:36 - 278

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mokeiro

Translation: We can't say how much insane money we did by selling a few hours of designers work, ...

It was rather more than "a few hours".

It actually took several artists, including a concept artist, a few months--splitting their time between their Guild Wars 2 work and Guild Wars work (remember, Live Team does not have dedicated artists)--to complete the costumes. This is start to finish: from concept, to making meshes, modeling, texturing, making it dye-able, working on the rigs, fixing bugs, shadow masks, bug fixes on animations, and more bug fixes after QA passes, etc. --all the way to their appearance on the live servers.

BTW, our designers weren't working on the costumes.

I think it would be interesting if designers rather than artists worked on costumes, but probably not something we could release to the public.

Emily Diehl

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

ArenaNet Home Base

N/Me

23 Apr 2010 at 00:19 - 279

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

BTW, our designers weren't working on the costumes.

I think it would be interesting if designers rather than artists worked on costumes, but probably not something we could release to the public.

What would be MORE interesting is if we got programmers to work on the costumes. "Programmer art", as it's lovingly referred to, is amazing to behold

Ravious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Servants of Fortuna

N/Mo

23 Apr 2010 at 01:08 - 280

Then we'd all be stick figures! /scamper