Guild Wars 2-HoM, What to take from GW1, and what not to take.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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I do consider doing the droknars forge run vanq involves skill because in the middle area you have to use tactics and lure carefully because the stone summit mobs have such a high amount of monks.
Discord or Sabway build gives you the ability to vanq but your still going to encounter experiences where your going to have to do some decision making.
In my case it's whether or not to bring Frenzy or Flail. Most of the time I'm actually able to get away with the former, but there are a few rare instances where it's a bit risky to run it. If I'm still not entirely confident about being able to complete it, for whatever reason, I just find a buddy and success rate is VERY high.

PvE skills, consets, and stupid enemies have really made PvE a walk in the park.

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I disagree pvp titles...
Well there's a few exceptions for ya. The biggest bulk of what titles you can acquire for the HoM, however, are PvE related, hence the center of this discussion.

Ninja Ninja

Ninja Ninja

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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PvE skills, consets, and stupid enemies have really made PvE a walk in the park.
I've always seen Mesmer as the most easy monsters to be found in PvE maybe with this update coming it will increase the difficulty and except for DoA I've never used cons, there more of a sc tool.

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Well there's a few exceptions for ya. The biggest bulk of what titles you can acquire for the HoM, however, are PvE related, hence the center of this discussion.
True but that doesn't mean the rewards will be equal, like maybe HA title will give an emote reward in gw2 for HA people who pride themselves on that and for a PvE title it could be a look based reward which PvE people pride themselves on.

galbat0rixx

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Join Date: Jan 2009

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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
Again nice imagining there galbat0rixx, did you know that when you get discord or sabway build you don't insta get the title? Tell me when you vanq the droknar's forge run then I'll have respect for you.
Although Bryant has correctly already pointed out the error in he above sentences, I'll add to what he said:
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
He *did* know, actually:


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Originally Posted by galbat0rixx
...it's just it's whether you can be bothered to spend so much time on it.
I fail to see how I am "imagining". I am more speculating using facts I have got from friends/other players in game. Of course getting a discordway/sabway build doesn't mean you'll have legendary vanquisher by the next day, but it makes it a whole lot easier and using DP removal and other such consumables means that you can basically do pretty much every area without worrying about it, just let the super-build do the work. And of course we understand that certain areas are obviously much more demanding, but as "Chasing Squirrels" had already said, it's just a question of time and maybe having to do some of the harder areas over again to get it right.

I'm not saying you need no skill for VQ, but it is possible to go through it, casually in most areas, just using discordway and sabway and the odd DP removal item. Time is the more vital requirement than slight of hand.

Also, just to take us back a little to the actual HoM reward "debate", I notice you said this:
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
True but that doesn't mean the rewards will be equal, like maybe HA title will give an emote reward in gw2 for HA people who pride themselves on that and for a PvE title it could be a look based reward which PvE people pride themselves on.
Does this mean you think that high-end PvPers should get an emote when PvEers get cosmetics? I mean, I'm not really in favour of cosmetics at all, I think emotes all round would be better, but if PvPers only got emotes as opposed to nice costumes or w/e, I think they would feel as though they have gotten the worse deal.
As I've mentioned, I do believe the high-end PvP system is slightly flawed, it would be wrong to make PvEers a priority, especially when PvP [b]should have[b] been one of the main aspects of Guild Wars 1. I mean, if anything I would have thought PvP would be more rewarded, rather than breezy PvE titles. I apologize if I have misinterpreted your comment, but that's kind of irrelevant, it just made me think about which titles should get better rewards.

Ninja Ninja

Ninja Ninja

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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Originally Posted by galbat0rixx View Post
I fail to see how I am "imagining". I am more speculating using facts I have got from friends/other players in game.
Yeah but on a topic as serious business as this I would still rather hear the "facts" coming from you, you take their information in believing its all 100% true.

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Originally Posted by galbat0rixx View Post
Does this mean you think that high-end PvPers should get an emote when PvEers get cosmetics? I mean, I'm not really in favour of cosmetics at all, I think emotes all round would be better, but if PvPers only got emotes as opposed to nice costumes or w/e, I think they would feel as though they have gotten the worse deal.
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Originally Posted by galbat0rixx View Post
As I've mentioned, I do believe the high-end PvP system is slightly flawed, it would be wrong to make PvEers a priority, especially when PvP [b]should have[b] been one of the main aspects of Guild Wars 1. I mean, if anything I would have thought PvP would be more rewarded, rather than breezy PvE titles. I apologize if I have misinterpreted your comment, but that's kind of irrelevant, it just made me think about which titles should get better rewards.
Speaking as a gw pvper, I've never cared for anything other than emotes for my character, the whole point of having a pvp char is so you can delete it at an instant and make a new char and quickly add equipment build and skill build for whatever meta your doing. Tournament rewards are a fairly new reward for pvp people with weapon skins and armor but the moment you delete your char there gone (except weapons if you store on hero), for HoM to get pvp statues you don't have to max the pvp titles, pvp titles are not meant to be maxed.
So the pvp titles equal out with the pve titles time, the game was not meant to be grinded the intention was to add a special reward for each title because not everyone likes the same thing so they want a reward for there favorite title. Is it wrong for someone to get all the titles and get all the rewards? NO.