/signed
I want a fair game to play. Not a lot of people getting GWAMM with bots and me pressing myself to get at least r1 max.
Petition to Demand a Response from Anet on Botting
Harmony_Forever
Karate Jesus
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Originally Posted by II Lucky Charm II
Where did you get this number?
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Originally Posted by II Lucky Charm II
Most of the bots you have listed here are PvP bots. I don't see why you would want to fix this; you can use this to your advantage. Bots are not that smart... Interrupt bots can easily be tricked if you cancel your skill before they interrupt you.
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Originally Posted by II Lucky Charm II
This game is no different than real life. It is still subjected to the law of supply and demand. Sooner or later, the price for these cupcakes will fall drastically and the bots will become obsolete.
There is no need to fix any of these bots. Banning players won't help either. Just join the botter and help make this community a better place. If everyone bots, we will all be on even field. NOT SIGNED |
Oh, and by the way, there's a ToPK bot on the way that can farm ectos. Just a heads up.
Ninja Ninja
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The actual number of unique users is closer to about 1,500, but that doesn't include copies that the downloaders have individually distributed, nor the multiple accounts they're using.
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Karate Jesus
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
So except make endless amounts of gold what do they plan to do with those accounts.
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Kosar The Cruel
If Anet really wanted to do something about this problem, wouldn't you think they would have done something already or at least have tried something?
If the bots are so easy to use and no one is being caught, I say we all just use bots. The economy will completely collapse in-game and PvP titles will be a joke.
(Please Note, I DO NOT bot)
If the bots are so easy to use and no one is being caught, I say we all just use bots. The economy will completely collapse in-game and PvP titles will be a joke.
(Please Note, I DO NOT bot)
Ninja Ninja
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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus
Max titles. Those are the only two purposes, really.
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@Ninja + @ Karate
2 Annoying opinions is not gonna force anet into anything. More then half of the players left are incoming players with zero experience. Id rather have a bot on my team then most of the people in this game, even on this forum. Btw bots held halls last night. Gz
2 Annoying opinions is not gonna force anet into anything. More then half of the players left are incoming players with zero experience. Id rather have a bot on my team then most of the people in this game, even on this forum. Btw bots held halls last night. Gz
Danny Used Frenzy
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
So except make endless amounts of gold what do they plan to do with those accounts.
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maxxfury
Yes there is a big problem but there is also a bit of a witch hunt for players who are just good and 'rupting and have a decent ping.
Been accused of botting when your just a decent interupter is kinda crappy...
Deffo needs looking into.. but until then people need to realize that some people just arent crap, and reporting everyone who can consistently hit your 1 sec cast with a dshot is just wrong.
I think its gonna be pretty hard to remove all the bots, like it was in d2, especially with all the dll injectors ect used for texmod ect..
sigh...
Been accused of botting when your just a decent interupter is kinda crappy...
Deffo needs looking into.. but until then people need to realize that some people just arent crap, and reporting everyone who can consistently hit your 1 sec cast with a dshot is just wrong.
I think its gonna be pretty hard to remove all the bots, like it was in d2, especially with all the dll injectors ect used for texmod ect..
sigh...
Ninja Ninja
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Originally Posted by Dont Cause Drama
Id rather have a bot on my team then most of the people in this game, even on this forum. Btw bots held halls last night. Gz
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Originally Posted by Danny Used Frenzy
Someone got 220 consec in Codex by syncing two bot teams overnight. KJ had it right - title-farming.
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Originally Posted by II Lucky Charm II
This game is no different than real life. It is still subjected to the law of supply and demand. Sooner or later, the price for these cupcakes will fall drastically and the bots will become obsolete.
There is no need to fix any of these bots. Banning players won't help either. Just join the botter and help make this community a better place. If everyone bots, we will all be on even field. NOT SIGNED |
makafri
totally /signed where do I get my cookie??
Apok
Wait wait wait....
Are we so political at this point that we have to sign a petition to demand the point of view a company has on an exploit that other rival companies face every day?
Dear Jebus, we are in trouble...
Are we so political at this point that we have to sign a petition to demand the point of view a company has on an exploit that other rival companies face every day?
Dear Jebus, we are in trouble...
Raven Wing
Give us all 5 everlasting cons sets that are stacking so we can all have 5 times the effect, that would make game easy for all, so everybody can speedsolo all areas, then there would be no need for bots.....
or just enforce the ban on these things please!
/signed
or just enforce the ban on these things please!
/signed
Septeric
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http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb...dates/20100225
there is no question why there has been a noticeable increase in botting in the last couple months...
anet went over the line destroying established gameplay instead of adding new content to change and balance the game.
so all the people that was laughed at for QQ'ing.. just said screw it.. and adapted...
i.m.o
Shake N Bake
./ signed.
As more and more players can obtain virus free bots pre google and players r noticing that nothing happens when you bot.
As more and more players can obtain virus free bots pre google and players r noticing that nothing happens when you bot.
Martin Alvito
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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus
If everyone bots, then the HoM will have no value, the economy in GW will be pointless...
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The economy will eventually crater irrespective of anything ANet does about the bots...unless rare miniatures and the Zaishen title provide tangible benefits people want in GW2.
I wish you well in your endeavor, but I would imagine that the devs will continue to ignore you. You want them to admit that there's a problem and do work. That's not likely to happen unless the devs suffer serious negative consequences as a result of the problem. Psychological research proves this.
If they're going to suffer as a result of the bot problem, that will happen irrespective of efforts to organize the community to apply pressure.
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This game is no different than real life. It is still subjected to the law of supply and demand. Sooner or later, the price for these cupcakes will fall drastically and the bots will become obsolete.
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Mesmers Are Bad
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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja
HA is only one part of pvp. The only people I can see not concerned about players abusing the game and making titles worthless are new players.
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I got it through time and effort and energy, I didn't partake in the RR farce, i haven't exploited the game in anyway, i don't even do speed clears because i think it's close to cheating. That said, I could care less about how others get their titles, I had fun getting to thirty my way. If somebody decides to be unscrupulous and bot titles it takes nothing away from my accomplishment.
To me, this issue is really only having an impact on people who i have distaste for, elitist and aspiring to be elitist pvpers that cry and cry and cry about everything (and there have been times where they cry about NOTHING I might add) and expect that they need to be serviced by Anet.
In short I could care less about bots or this perceived impending issue.
tldr; Hur Dur I'm a pve'er so i don't know anything about anything.
Karate Jesus
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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
I wish you well in your endeavor, but I would imagine that the devs will continue to ignore you. You want them to admit that there's a problem and do work. That's not likely to happen unless the devs suffer serious negative consequences as a result of the problem. Psychological research proves this.
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I'm kind of hoping that they'll just be honest with us....but I guess that's a pipe dream.
Septeric
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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus
I'm kind of hoping that they'll just be honest with us....but I guess that's a pipe dream.
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i have watched the ranks of the bot sites swell over the last couple months. i will guess that for every 1 that signs up.. 10 do not... and for every 1 of them.. they tell at least 2-3 friends... who again start the cycle...
if we just now 'see' the confirmed swell of bots... i think we haven't seen anything yet.. and GW will be mostly bots by the end.
again.. my opinion of the situation
Ninja Ninja
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Originally Posted by Mesmers Are Bad
I've been playing this game for four and a half years now, i have my gwamm, my full hall, my elite weapon and armor sets.
I got it through time and effort and energy, I didn't partake in the RR farce, i haven't exploited the game in anyway, i don't even do speed clears because i think it's close to cheating. That said, I could care less about how others get their titles, I had fun getting to thirty my way. If somebody decides to be unscrupulous and bot titles it takes nothing away from my accomplishment. To me, this issue is really only having an impact on people who i have distaste for, elitist and aspiring to be elitist pvpers that cry and cry and cry about everything (and there have been times where they cry about NOTHING I might add) and expect that they need to be serviced by Anet. In short I could care less about bots or this perceived impending issue. tldr; Hur Dur I'm a pve'er so i don't know anything about anything. |
William C Wallace
/signed .........
Will Mason
/signed for actually looked at, not demanded. They're busy and demanding things is just rude.
If you don't pvp then don't say it isn't a problem when every other balanced team you run into in HA is running a bot mes/ranger and you all /report and no action is taken.
If you don't pvp then don't say it isn't a problem when every other balanced team you run into in HA is running a bot mes/ranger and you all /report and no action is taken.
Deviant Angel
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There is no need to fix any of these bots. Banning players won't help either. Just join the botter and help make this community a better place. If everyone bots, we will all be on even field.
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I shouldn't have to put my security and account at risk because you and several others are too lazy (or incompetent) to play the damn game yourself. If the game has become so boring that you can't stand to play it, UNINSTALL!
Sankt Hallvard
If you eternal forum whiners get anywhere with this demand let me know cause I'll be having some more demands for this Anet crew.
Mesmers Are Bad
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We are mainly talking about bots in pvp not pve, if you have no interest in pvp that's your decision but don't hate people that do care about the future of gw pvp. That said I've only seen bots in pve do farms for money and pve titles are more about doing things than money.
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Am I jaded? Yes. Does that invalidate my opinions? I hope not.
Sankt Hallvard
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meaningful, visible ways for players to signal their accomplishments
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Ghost Dog
For those that say not signed, just admit you use it.
I understand the frustration of all this but some of you act as if this were the first game to gain a bot infestation and anet doesn't care at all, bullshit.
Every game will have bots and developers can only hope to stop exploiting somehow but let's face it, there are developers out there with money 20 fold compared to anet who still can't snuff out the rise of bots.
There is no fix it to this, there is no easy code alteration to stop it and even if there was the bot creators would bypass it, so consider that before you say RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO anet they don't care about it.
This is nowhere near as easy as it sounds, and todays generation is packed full of gamers that can't wait to cheat, or say "it's not my problem" it very much is your problem.
I want anet to ban every cheating little insecure twit but let's get real, it doesn't happen that way in any game, should we look forward to better management of this problem in GW2 absolutely, but this game is on a very frugal budget I don't expect much. Be glad it didn't get this bad when it really mattered.
We as gamers don't really help the matter at all, how many of you use it and don't tell, how many have seen fellow members or friends use a bot and looked the other way because "he's cool with me". Many are far from innocent but will claim to be until the end.
We as a community didn't speak up about this current bot rise until months after we truly knew what was going on, I saw it with my own eyes nothing but excuses "games dead" or "anet won't do anything go ahead" but now it's a problem because it affected you.
Too late.
I understand the frustration of all this but some of you act as if this were the first game to gain a bot infestation and anet doesn't care at all, bullshit.
Every game will have bots and developers can only hope to stop exploiting somehow but let's face it, there are developers out there with money 20 fold compared to anet who still can't snuff out the rise of bots.
There is no fix it to this, there is no easy code alteration to stop it and even if there was the bot creators would bypass it, so consider that before you say RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO anet they don't care about it.
This is nowhere near as easy as it sounds, and todays generation is packed full of gamers that can't wait to cheat, or say "it's not my problem" it very much is your problem.
I want anet to ban every cheating little insecure twit but let's get real, it doesn't happen that way in any game, should we look forward to better management of this problem in GW2 absolutely, but this game is on a very frugal budget I don't expect much. Be glad it didn't get this bad when it really mattered.
We as gamers don't really help the matter at all, how many of you use it and don't tell, how many have seen fellow members or friends use a bot and looked the other way because "he's cool with me". Many are far from innocent but will claim to be until the end.
We as a community didn't speak up about this current bot rise until months after we truly knew what was going on, I saw it with my own eyes nothing but excuses "games dead" or "anet won't do anything go ahead" but now it's a problem because it affected you.
Too late.
Lycan Nibbler
I /rr the chances of anet doing anything about this a long while ago. It has grown exponentially, not least each thread in here and other similar places bringing more attention to the subject each time.
When they didnt do anything about syncing in pvp areas, the writing was on the wall then. I got my gwamm what seems like years ago now and yes, I am sad that something I put the effort into is devalued.
Ive seen dedicated real farmers banned for botting and botters go untouched, so Ive given up on caring.... Id like to go earn some glad rank and increase my rank a couple of levels to 6, but think it isnt going to happen in the current situation.
When they didnt do anything about syncing in pvp areas, the writing was on the wall then. I got my gwamm what seems like years ago now and yes, I am sad that something I put the effort into is devalued.
Ive seen dedicated real farmers banned for botting and botters go untouched, so Ive given up on caring.... Id like to go earn some glad rank and increase my rank a couple of levels to 6, but think it isnt going to happen in the current situation.
Rhunex
/not signed
ANet is currently working on a solution:
Yay Solutions!
Guild Wars is old, and the people making bots for GW have had 5 years to 'perfect' their craft. Even if ANet somehow finds a panacea for the current infestation of bots, it will be (literally) hours before a new release is out. The people running the bots don't, and usually aren't, intelligent. The people making the bots, however, are crafty devils who wait for developers to give them a new challenge. Once a challenge is issued, it has to be solved.
I agree that PvP sucks a bit in GW now, but if it upsets you that much, perhaps you should abstain from logging in for a week(or two), cool down, and <insert it's just a game comment here>.
GvG is still valid, and you can humiliate any guild who uses bots in an obvious fashion. Better yet, you can fight guilds you know/like, which offers plenty of opportunities.
To me, though, this is like going on D2 and whining that people are still duping. It's an old game, there were unforeseen loopholes in the code, and people will continue exploiting it. Same goes for GW.
ANet is currently working on a solution:
Yay Solutions!
Guild Wars is old, and the people making bots for GW have had 5 years to 'perfect' their craft. Even if ANet somehow finds a panacea for the current infestation of bots, it will be (literally) hours before a new release is out. The people running the bots don't, and usually aren't, intelligent. The people making the bots, however, are crafty devils who wait for developers to give them a new challenge. Once a challenge is issued, it has to be solved.
I agree that PvP sucks a bit in GW now, but if it upsets you that much, perhaps you should abstain from logging in for a week(or two), cool down, and <insert it's just a game comment here>.
GvG is still valid, and you can humiliate any guild who uses bots in an obvious fashion. Better yet, you can fight guilds you know/like, which offers plenty of opportunities.
To me, though, this is like going on D2 and whining that people are still duping. It's an old game, there were unforeseen loopholes in the code, and people will continue exploiting it. Same goes for GW.
shadows of hob
Yeah, /signed, i seriously have enough of the interupt mes bots in HA.
Ban them all! You want names? Just wisper pretty much any player in halls.....
Ban them all! You want names? Just wisper pretty much any player in halls.....
Show Some Skin
/signed of course, i would like to see what they got to say instead of some dumb shit copy & paste response like they always do.
rick1027
im gonna /sign
im doing this mainly cause ive been around the game for a while and every time there is a bot increase it takes the vocalness of the guild wars community to see a lot banned. anet seems to only get on the ban wagon when the community screams about it and yes ive noticed more bots lately
im doing this mainly cause ive been around the game for a while and every time there is a bot increase it takes the vocalness of the guild wars community to see a lot banned. anet seems to only get on the ban wagon when the community screams about it and yes ive noticed more bots lately
Aeronwen
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I'm sure if they made /age a title people would run their computers 24/7 and feel proud of their progress.
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/signed tho
ppl were openly talking about using the raptor bot in Rata local chat.
and jq is pointless most days with all the silly bots.
chessyang
/NOT signed
cuzz the response will likely read on some wiki page like "we are looking into this.... etc... ...."
cuzz the response will likely read on some wiki page like "we are looking into this.... etc... ...."
Ninja Ninja
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/not signed
ANet is currently working on a solution: Yay Solutions! Guild Wars is old, and the people making bots for GW have had 5 years to 'perfect' their craft. Even if ANet somehow finds a panacea for the current infestation of bots, it will be (literally) hours before a new release is out. The people running the bots don't, and usually aren't, intelligent. The people making the bots, however, are crafty devils who wait for developers to give them a new challenge. Once a challenge is issued, it has to be solved. I agree that PvP sucks a bit in GW now, but if it upsets you that much, perhaps you should abstain from logging in for a week(or two), cool down, and <insert it's just a game comment here>. GvG is still valid, and you can humiliate any guild who uses bots in an obvious fashion. Better yet, you can fight guilds you know/like, which offers plenty of opportunities. To me, though, this is like going on D2 and whining that people are still duping. It's an old game, there were unforeseen loopholes in the code, and people will continue exploiting it. Same goes for GW. |
dzine
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/unsigned let everyone do whatever they want
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/unsigned based on spite(completely underrated btw).....not too keen on demands...rather hear a response on other matters
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jazilla
Why would I sign this? I love when a ranger in PvP who is targeting one of my team mates and has his/her back to me whips around and d-shots me. Why would A-Net want to fix that? And I am not speaking about a good player. I am speaking about every time on certain skills. I shouldn't be forced to run anti-bot builds when I play honestly because I like the competition when it is run the way it should be run.
/signed.
/signed.
Infanta
There is actually a really serious JQ botting problem right now. The last time I played (the other night) we won 10-0 almost 15 times in a row because most of the people on Luxon side were botting and don't even attempt to capture shrines.
I'm not exaggerating either... I'm sure other people on here can attest to that. It's easy to tell bots from people, because bots do things like use whirlwind when no one is near them, follow you around even if their build has no chance of doing any damage to you (eles casting meteor showing on my ranger while I just interrupt everything they cast), and always appear from the same portal and run to the same location.
I'm not exaggerating either... I'm sure other people on here can attest to that. It's easy to tell bots from people, because bots do things like use whirlwind when no one is near them, follow you around even if their build has no chance of doing any damage to you (eles casting meteor showing on my ranger while I just interrupt everything they cast), and always appear from the same portal and run to the same location.
fowlero
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Most of the bots you have listed here are PvP bots. I don't see why you would want to fix this; you can use this to your advantage. Bots are not that smart... Interrupt bots can easily be tricked if you cancel your skill before they interrupt you.
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I still don't understand why they can't update the client to break the injection methods? They managed to break KSMod because some bots were using the same exact method KSMod used, so can't they do a little more coding and stop allowing DLL injections?
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I'd like a proper response but it won't mean anything so /care.
Mireles
Botting is against EULA and there is no arguing opinion with typed print...its cheating... Arena net needs to hold up its end of the deal... if they will they will or not I don't know... but i would doubt Anet will tip people off that have joined the cheating masses by saying something here.
/signed
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