So can something, like, happen?

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

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So the anniversary festivities were standard ones, the War In Kryta thing is a bit of a non-event and the whole skill situation (no idea what to call it anymore) is on hold. Soooo anyway ETA's for actual new stuff?

kupp

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Yeah I'd like to know when's some actual stuff gonna start happening, specifically the War on Kryta events... As much as the side lore is fun to watch develop, it's been a month and a half now.

Scarlett Romanov

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Linsey said its going to take about another month for them to implement whatever content they have planned. I heard this from the podcast.

Spiritz

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DMFC

Maybe a sweepstake - gw2 first or WiK first.
Its a good question you ask and i was surprised at the 5th birthday even how dull it was compared to 4th yr.
Pets are nothing really to get excited over - think anet was struggling for ideas.
Content ? ive never seen or heard of a "viral advertising" before and if you go by anets example ( which i did ) i lost interest easily.
It seems anet wants to get ppl interested and buzzing then forget to deliver the goods , gw2 is a gd example , if anet kept quiet about gw2 instead of saying its going to be released xx date ( keeps changing ) almost 2 yrs ago then im sure people would be more interested when they say later on - gw2 is coming.
Anet should give an indication of when new WIK stuff is being let loose - maybe not an exact time but say something to hint at - white mantle peace keepers heading east in force and expected to arrive at xxx on xx/xx/2010 and between that date they work thru different areas making their way there.
Public would be happy as they know somethings happening and many who enjoy running around looking for nick etc would also have fun finding and reporting.

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the War In Kryta thing is a bit of a non-event
It's supposed to be part of their "Upgrade" called "Guild Wars Beyond".

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and the whole skill situation (no idea what to call it anymore) is on hold. Soooo anyway ETA's for actual new stuff?
They have most of their resources focused on Guild Wars 2..So it may take a while.

Daesu

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Join Date: Oct 2008

If you know the situation of Tyria around GW2, you know that the shining blade wins that war with their new capital in Divinity's Reach?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Divinity%27s_Reach

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I understand they're working on gw2 , but seriously , how many updates did we get since eotn release . I can only thing of 2 big ones : 4th birthday with nicholas , zquests + removal of Hb/TA with implement of Codex ( which was a complete fiasco ) .

So , although i said , i understand they have much work , but if trimestrial updates they promised turn to update " when its done " , like each 7 months ( with random 4 skills nerfed sometimes ) ........

Anyway , many people were disapointed because they expected that war in kryta event during the 5th birthday , and now , we hear that it's delayed of 1 month . So , this has to be good , not like 3 quests and thats it , and better than what they did like codex ( although it's hard to do worse )

Popeye1906

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Just be patient, I'm sure the Live Crew will soon be adding more bugs.


cosyfiep

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are we there yet?

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in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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anet has the history of this kind of thing.....just look back....6 months for new chapter, took them 1 year to get the first one.....etc....it has ALWAYS been this way, and it aint gonna change any time soon (so get used to it if you decide to play gw2 as well).

it will happen 'soon' (thats what Regina said in another thread when I asked about stuff)....now your time line for soon---wellllllllllll lets just hope its not geological (then it could be eons before the next update!)

Kook~NBK~

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Natural Born Killaz

A-Net has stated that the War in Kryta thingie will be unfolding over the next several months. It's not linked to the 5th year anniversary, people just assumed that.

Karate Jesus

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Linsey said its going to take about another month for them to implement whatever content they have planned. I heard this from the podcast.
Wow, that's just pathetic.

I guess everyone abandon ship Zzz

Shayne Hawke

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Yeah, spreading it out over a long period of time sounds really cool in concept. In practice though, they're only letting so little content trickle out each day that it's not really amounting to anything much to me. It didn't really help either that Linsey got sick and that updates had to be pushed back on account of that.

This anniversary didn't really have that much added to the game in comparison to last year, which is probably the biggest disappointment.

Benderama

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Places said the war in Kryta was gonna happen around the anniversary. instead we got an elementalist . But yeah i hope the war in Kryta stuff actually happens soon. it's beginning to become a tad drawn-out.

Xsiriss

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They have most of their resources focused on Guild Wars 2..So it may take a while.
ORLY?They told us a while back they have 2 separate teams. Plus anyone aying 'patience', we have all been patient and would just like some consistency and information. For once.

slowerpoke

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With most thing in life, expect nothing, be surprised when something does appear

stretchs

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/me remembers them saying bi-monthly skill updates instead of monthly....

missed out on that one....

/me remembers 5 anniversary amazingness promised...

ssdd

/me remembers how much we all have loved this game.....

they still keep getting our micro transactions though =\

gw1 microtransactions =/ gw2 development. That isnt the business model these companies operate on. But they are selling a snipe hunt lately it seems

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With most thing in life, expect nothing, be surprised when something does appear
This.

I play occasionally and am surprised when something new gets released, because I don't spend every waking moment on Guru looking for the next little bit of content. If you get bored, get another game, and come back to GW on occasion to see if anything new happened.

Mintha Syl

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I was really expecting something cause it's my first gw anniversary and, knowing what the previous year update was, I was kinda in a thrill for that to repeat at my presence. Also, I bought tyhe game just after they stopped giving free extra storage slots and was expecting some gift.
And instead what we got for gw1 was anticipations of gw2...do they know not everyone lives on the more-gw2revelations-breathing?
Really, I hope it's not a messagge to make us aunderstand "now there's gw2, move on and stop waiting something for gw1, that one is history already".

Trader of Secrets

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Cool, nice pic of future Divinity's Reach. and I laughed at the whole chinatown district.

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With most thing in life, expect nothing, be surprised when something does appear
sorry, I don't live in Cuba. I live in a land where there is competition, where things change rapidly and staying ahead of the curve is the difference between innovation and layoffs. This can both be said of the place I work at and the game developers I choose to patronize.

kupp

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With most thing in life, expect nothing, be surprised when something does appear
Funny how I heard a speach about that last night from my university veterans. While it's true, life just isn't the same if you don't expect anything from anyone, it's just insipid. And god they're right.

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Places said the war in Kryta was gonna happen around the anniversary. instead we got an elementalist . But yeah i hope the war in Kryta stuff actually happens soon. it's beginning to become a tad drawn-out.
This.

While it's good they're adding new stuff, it's been going on for half a month. And yes it's not supposed to be a whole lot of content not now at least, but the hype is pretty much gone. It's becoming a routine checking for new info and get like 30 seconds of amusement from NPC chatter. By the time stuff starts happening it'll be just... "Ok it's cute but... meh." I know it can't all happen in one day or one week but to go as far as several months for a handful of quests isn't a good thing by any angle.

slowerpoke

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Guild Wars is at end of life, its not a priority for the developers. They aren't going to be introducing alot of updates for it, their attention is on the sequel.

You may want more for Guild Wars, but that doesn't mean its going to happen.
If it does, great, if not, oh well. You could spend alot of time and energy being angry about that, or move on.

NerfHerder

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I give Anet alot of credit, I think thier support is very good by todays standards. And GW1 is one of the best games of all time IMO. I could write a report on all the things I love about it.

However.....

I cant help but feel like Anet is Lucy and were Charlie Brown trying to kick the football.

I just wish they would be ready to play when they ask us to come outside.

Ariovist Lynxkind

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This kinda thread again...

For those that dont know/cant be bothered reading the other threads here, the stuff got delayed cause of Lindsey's back. There probably would have been more stuff during the Anniversary week, but when your lead designer of a small team is laid up in bed, there is nothing much you can do.

as for people complaining about the speed or lack there of, I actually kinda like this. It is interesting to see this stuff unfolding rather than being slapped in there. Besides, I wouldnt be surprised if it was slapped in there that people would complain that they went through it too quick

Fay Vert

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R/

I got bored with the war in Kryta, did anything ever happen?

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Anet should give an indication of when new WIK stuff is being let loose - maybe not an exact time but say something to hint at - white mantle peace keepers heading east in force and expected to arrive at xxx on xx/xx/2010 and between that date they work thru different areas making their way there.
Yeah, like how they announced a GW2 beta in 2008. :rolleyes

People are still whining about being lied to be Anet about that.

Just do something else with your time, instead of 'is it there yet, is it there yet' all day long.

HawkofStorms

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ORLY?They told us a while back they have 2 separate teams. Plus anyone aying 'patience', we have all been patient and would just like some consistency and information. For once.
They also told us the GW1 team consists of around 5 people.

Ninja Ninja

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This kinda thread again...

For those that dont know/cant be bothered reading the other threads here, the stuff got delayed cause of Lindsey's back. There probably would have been more stuff during the Anniversary week, but when your lead designer of a small team is laid up in bed, there is nothing much you can do.

as for people complaining about the speed or lack there of, I actually kinda like this. It is interesting to see this stuff unfolding rather than being slapped in there. Besides, I wouldnt be surprised if it was slapped in there that people would complain that they went through it too quick
I doubt the war in kryta is something recent they just pulled out of there ass, linsey getting a recent back injury shouldn't affect it. This whole war in kryta is just a way to connect the lore of gw1 and gw2 for marketing.

I couldn't stop laughing when I saw the Gamespot interview and it shows a screenshot outside of ToA with the first scene and it says "Much has changed in Guild Wars since the game launched" when all they did was recycle monster skins from pre-searing the very first gw area.

jazilla

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They announced that it was coming. Then they do this slow IV drip of info. If you don't announce things prematurely, you don't get disappointed people. You think they would have realized that after announcing GW2 when EOTN came out. I believe that we would have gotten another expansion for GW1 had they known it was gonna take them this long. I also believe the fourth year celebration was so special because they believed that GW2 was going to be out by the 5th year celebration and it would have been the last time that GW1 was the relevant game in the franchise.

People are right to be upset that they released the stuff they could sell to us for real world money on time but not the in game content.

I am tired of being told one thing and then it doesn't happen. If you can't keep your word, don't say it. If you don't say it, I can't hold it against you.

Also, a quick, "Hey, we goofed this one up. Our bad." would go a long way in all of us cutting them some slack. Problem is, all we get are empty promises these days, and no apologies for them not keeping their word.

sixdartbart

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You think they would have realized that after announcing GW2 when EOTN came out. I believe that we would have gotten another expansion for GW1 had they known it was gonna take them this long.
GW2 was announced long before EOTN was released along with a detailed explanation of why they were making it and leaving the stand alone expansion model for GWs behind.

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I am tired of being told one thing and then it doesn't happen. If you can't keep your word, don't say it. If you don't say it, I can't hold it against you.
If you don't know the difference between what they actually said and whatever watered down version of history that you are posting now that seems to be more your problem then theirs.

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and no apologies for them not keeping their word.
How about a quick "I'm sorry" for misrepresenting anything that Anet actually said or didn't say?

Puebert

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I am tired of being told one thing and then it doesn't happen. If you can't keep your word, don't say it. If you don't say it, I can't hold it against you.
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So, in return for this openness, we expect you, our community, to be understanding when projects that we have discussed may be canceled or changed, or a project or build is delayed. We want you to have ambitious expectations for us, but to understand that there are always limitations. Everyone has to deal with finite resources, competing priorities, and unexpected complications, and we’re no different. By embracing this reality, we can work together to bridge the gap between development and community for the betterment of the game.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:...A_New_Approach

I'd rather be told about something that might happen rather than never hearing about.

Mintha Syl

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the stuff got delayed cause of Lindsey's back. There probably would have been more stuff during the Anniversary week, but when your lead designer of a small team is laid up in bed, there is nothing much you can do.
I know about Lindsey, and i'm sorry for her, but as they still need a month of work it means it wouldn't have been ready with or without her problems. Unless she's been ill for a long time and that would be a different thing.

But, they do what they can, just let down for not having an event when we were expecting one.

Ariovist Lynxkind

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I know about Lindsey, and i'm sorry for her, but as they still need a month of work it means it wouldn't have been ready with or without her problems. Unless she's been ill for a long time and that would be a different thing.

But, they do what they can, just let down for not having an event when we were expecting one.
Thats interesting cause I can see we are reading into things differently. you are saying they need a month of work? The way I read it is that there is a months worth to roll out before all of it is in the game. They are doing a gradual roll out, not an 'all in one hit', which is the reason I read it this way.


For those saying 'Lindsey's back shouldn't have interfered with it': This is the live team. quite small, hey.

majoho

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Denmark

Any reason the "praise" thread for Anet got locked while this flamefest is allowed?

Mintha Syl

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Thats interesting cause I can see we are reading into things differently. you are saying they need a month of work? The way I read it is that there is a months worth to roll out before all of it is in the game. They are doing a gradual roll out, not an 'all in one hit', which is the reason I read it this way.
Ok maybe we've got things interpreted differently, for me "we’ve got probably another month to go before you’ll see everything that we’ve got to celebrate the fifth anniversary." meant they still need a month of work, but maybe you're right. I don't have the elements to give a sure interpretation, so let's just wait and see (I'll get popcorn).

JR

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Linsey said its going to take about another month for them to implement whatever content they have planned. I heard this from the podcast.
That's not exactly what was said, and a few people have already misinterpreted it, so I will clarify:

Linsey said that the remaining 'War in Kryta' content will be released over the period of about a month. She didn't say it would take a month to release.

As others have mentioned, they've also had problems because of Linsey's back issues. She's the live team lead, and when she's in too much pain to get up and go to the office that's obviously going to put a dent in their schedule. Does it suck? Sure, but spare a thought for Linsey for whom it sucks the most. Regina has posted about this already.

coil

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Any reason the "praise" thread for Anet got locked while this flamefest is allowed?
cause nobody likes a fanboi....

on the other hand, people do like information. and when there's a dam put up but no water flowing people start to wonder, where is the water for this dam?

my only question is this: sure, linsey is the lead. but to not release anything without her is odd...because one would imagine for something that should have been as big as an anniversary celebration/viral continuation of the warinkryta, these things would have been created, tested, and approved for release at least a week before the actual anniversary/release date yes?

so to say quite bluntly, "sorry school, there are no lessons today because the principal is out sick, expect a new lesson in about a month til the principal gets better" is odd, at least to myself. one can only wonder if they were so far behind that they actually had nothing ready for release and actually can't release anything without her approval.

i don't know how they work, and i could be completely wrong, but this may help explain the thought process of those questioning what's going on.

Ariovist Lynxkind

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cause nobody likes a fanboi....

on the other hand, people do like information. and when there's a dam put up but no water flowing people start to wonder, where is the water for this dam?

my only question is this: sure, linsey is the lead. but to not release anything without her is odd...because one would imagine for something that should have been as big as an anniversary celebration/viral continuation of the warinkryta, these things would have been created, tested, and approved for release at least a week before the actual anniversary/release date yes?

so to say quite bluntly, "sorry school, there are no lessons today because the principal is out sick, expect a new lesson in about a month til the principal gets better" is odd, at least to myself. one can only wonder if they were so far behind that they actually had nothing ready for release and actually can't release anything without her approval.

i don't know how they work, and i could be completely wrong, but this may help explain the thought process of those questioning what's going on.
And once again, I put the link: This is the live team..

You have 2 designers (including the lead) and one programmer. The rest are either community relations or QA. given that for this project they are rolling things out on a week to week basis (maybe a tad longer), having one down will have a significant affect on the team.

Your school analogy is way off base. It is more like 'Sorry kids, we wont be having class today because the teacher is sick and we cant replace her.'

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sorry, I don't live in Cuba. I live in a land where there is competition, where things change rapidly and staying ahead of the curve is the difference between innovation and layoffs. This can both be said of the place I work at and the game developers I choose to patronize.
The difference being, of course, that you're not choosing to pay ANet or not. You've already made that choice, you've played the game, you got your money's worth. Your choices right now are to either continue playing the game, or put it down. Either way, you're not spending any more money.

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- It will happen.
- When?
- Later.
- When is later?
- Do you know when are we know?
- Now?
- Yes, now. Now we are at 'now'. Well, it will be 'later'.
- And when it's later?
- After now.
- And when it's now?
- Now.
- And when it's later?
- Later.

Yay!

Don't worry, you can be sure it will be waaaaaaaaay before the Black Mesa source mod, the Tron Killer App 2.0 mod, Duke Nukem Forever and SIN:Episode 2.
We just feel impatient because we want it really bad.

Just remember that time periods reported by devs are usually in what 'experts' so call "Valve time".