Update - Friday, May 14, 2010

Ariovist Lynxkind

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyon456 View Post
Your main is a Ranger...? Mines a Derv. LOL.
I have about 6, last count, the main being a Beast Master which was doing decent damage before the pet buff...

Mind you, that was PvE, so yeah...

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Oho, there are new weapon skins?

That is... interesting news.

Horace Slughorn

Horace Slughorn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2008

Experientia Docet [OHX], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA], We Gat Dis [HRUU]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
Oho, there are new weapon skins?

That is... interesting news.
WOAH slow down. What?

Edit: Wow, just saw the stuff on that user's wiki page from the dat file. If that's real, then I'm definately excited

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
Excuse me, Captain Literal. I meant there's no playable content, yet.

It's still not what we've been told we'd get for 3 months. And the skill update is late.....

You'd think, seeing as how you have obviously given up any hope on this game, that you would expect this coming and not even bother posting, thus saving our eyes from gazing upon your pessimism.

Dude, everything you say is geared towards some form of hatred towards this game and every single one of your posts is like a campaign against the 4 or 5 people still working on this game. It's gotten to the point where you don't even bother saying anything productive anymore.

Nobody loves cynicism, dude. Never heard of a dude getting laid for constantly complaining at every single thing he incorporates into his life.

Trust me, I'm in the same boat as you; I've stopped playing period and only log on to obs matches and get my main through whatever pops up. I make snide remarks and poke jabs at their incompetence, but I always like to offer some helpful insight and ideas to whomever bothers to read it.


Back on topic (mainly the Primary Attributes discussion): I would be damn happy if each profession's primary attrib. only affected their skills. It's the exact thing GW2 is doing and, if implemented from the start, would have gotten rid of SOOOOOOOO many problems in past metagames without nuetering skills. Also, this Fast-casting change seems like a buff for PvEers, and what is this Fevered Dreams+Ash Blast combo that everyone is so worried for?

Penny

Penny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Playing a bit but not too much.

<3

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduin View Post
Those are the same as appear in Watchtower Coast. The White Mantle Scout have a charmed White Tiger.

Also, did you all miss this? I'm not seeing any thread about it?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Zora/Gwdat

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:...le_Weapons.jpg



Thanks to Neil2250 and Zora.


Just take a look at the WM at the northern part of Watchtower Coast.
hi cash-shop ? I suppose it will be a "pmb" thing tbh ._."

Yol

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

E/

Hmmm....wouldn't it be nice if more of the prophecies missions could be accessible as explorables (thus making the maps like cantha and elona)

Lucci_Slevin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2008

Liars Cheats and Thieves

A guildie and I were able to get on the other side of the merchant in Zinns lab and enter the divinity Coast explorable. There is a whole White mantle army with revamped skill bars and professions out there.

We eventually fought our way to the Fort at Loamhurst. There were several white mantle mobs and an ele boss named "...". we killed her and she dropped me her robes


I edited out the skill bars in case this is considered an exploit. If the mods ok it, I will share how.

Here is the first view from the White mantle fort.

Before it was impossible to enter because the draw-bridge was up.

Might be helpful to cartographers.

Edit- Apparently it does. That black area was uncovered on scraping the fort.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Guess we now know the base of WM operations

Leave it to the players to discover all content, even before it gets released.

Yol

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucci_Slevin View Post
We eventually fought our way to the Fort at Loamhurst. There were several white mantle mobs and an ele boss named "...". we killed her and she dropped me her robes
One of the npc's next to Salma in LA says "..." when you talk to him. At first I thought it was just a case of Linsey forgetting to put the dialogue in, but now it's obvious he's actually warning us about the boss in divinity coast called ...

Lucci_Slevin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2008

Liars Cheats and Thieves

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduin View Post
Guess we now know the base of WM operations

Leave it to the players to discover all content, even before it gets released.
I actually wonder if they made it possible for us the get back there on purpose. I guess if they really did not want us to see they could have left the spawns out. But then again I am pretty clueless of the mechanics behind these updates.

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucci_Slevin View Post
I actually wonder if they made it possible for us the get back there on purpose. I guess if they really did not want us to see they could have left the spawns out. But then again I am pretty clueless of the mechanics behind these updates.
I think part of Anet's goal to keep people playing 'till GW2 is to make them fully involved in upcomming War.

Having people discover things on their own is the best thing to do. Simply releasing a dry update reading: "Now you can start battling in the War for Tyria" won't nearly be as enjoyable as stealth updates where you have thousands and thousands of people actively looking through the intire Tyria map for clues after each update.

Or atleast that's how I see it. Imo, no update notes is the way to go. Let the community figure it out, and keep releasing more content/changes when new stuff gets release on fan-site forums. (such as guru)

Hells Fury

Hells Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

W/D

Please share build on how to get past barricades. I already explored some parts by dying and using henchmen line of sight to explore there. I know it's possible to get heroes/henchies to glitch behind barricades and then using recall but it's very hard to achieve it.

Edit:Just used recall on alesia but olias got past by lol. And moments later livia -_-
And later on alesia. Just need to constantly keep flagging anywhere behind barricades.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucci_Slevin View Post
I actually wonder if they made it possible for us the get back there on purpose. I guess if they really did not want us to see they could have left the spawns out. But then again I am pretty clueless of the mechanics behind these updates.
I believe they wanted us to see this. It's even possible to get into that room where seer is. Some guy (on wiki) said he used recall on pet and then strike as one. Seems too easy to be an oversight.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apok View Post
You'd think, seeing as how you have obviously given up any hope on this game, that you would expect this coming and not even bother posting, thus saving our eyes from gazing upon your pessimism.

Dude, everything you say is geared towards some form of hatred towards this game and every single one of your posts is like a campaign against the 4 or 5 people still working on this game. It's gotten to the point where you don't even bother saying anything productive anymore.
Well, I get frustrated with the game, that's true, but 99% of the time I'm very positive about the game. The problem is that there's not much to be positive about right now.
  • We had a contentless 5th anniversary (unless you count costumes)
  • We have well over 60 bots publicly released now and over 5,000 players admitting to using them, yet Anet hasn't done anything.
  • The skill balance has been finished testing for over a month by the TK, and yet Anet is claiming that they need more time for it.
  • And the WiK looks like it's not going to be released for at least another month. In a game that's begging for playable and replayable content only once a year, that's a bad thing.
There just happens to be a lot......not happening right now.

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
The skill balance has been finished testing for over a month by the TK, and yet Anet is claiming that they need more time for it.
While i in general agree with you, are you personally in the TK?

Those i know in the TK have still been playtesting the latest idea's last week, so i don't know where you have this from.

Case you're referring to those leaked notes, half of the skills on there have since been changed/scrapped from what i've been told.

Malla13

Malla13

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2009

Angeldustrial Bonsai Muffins [FFS]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucci_Slevin View Post
I actually wonder if they made it possible for us the get back there on purpose. I guess if they really did not want us to see they could have left the spawns out. But then again I am pretty clueless of the mechanics behind these updates.
I wouldn't be surprised. It's almost like the players who are willing to get in there and look around are spying for the Shining Blade.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell Darkblight View Post
Please share build on how to get past barricades. I already explored some parts by dying and using henchmen line of sight to explore there. I know it's possible to get heroes/henchies to glitch behind barricades and then using recall but it's very hard to achieve it.
It's likely a use of a series of shadowsteps.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
The skill balance has been finished testing for over a month by the TK, and yet Anet is claiming that they need more time for it.
Oh, you wish this was true.

stouda01

stouda01

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Czech Republic-Prague

[LUST]

R/

as usual, the bow skin suxx

LoKi Foxfire

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

Just share the 'exploit' - A-net doesn't ban botters, do you think they will ban you for glitching? :I

Quote:
Originally Posted by stouda01 View Post
as usual, the bow skin suxx
Not surprised.

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yol View Post
Hmmm....wouldn't it be nice if more of the prophecies missions could be accessible as explorables (thus making the maps like cantha and elona)
Yes, it would be nice. But I think it would take a lot of work to make it happen.

First, they would have to set up new spawns for each area, since mission spawns and explorable spawns are different. I don't know how much work is involved in selecting the number and types of foes that will be present, setting the area boundaries for each group and the paths for patrols, etc. But I suspect it takes more than a little cut-and-paste work, especially if you want to introduce some unique features -- like new bosses -- to keep the area from being just more of the same old stuff.

Second, to avoid screwing up the earlier parts of the storyline, they would have to think up a lot of dodges (like the secret tunnel to Zinn's lab) that do not appear until after you've passed a certain point in the storyline. This would be a lot of work, but it would take even more work to comb over all the missions and quests in Prophecies and figure out which ones might be screwed up or exploited if there were a regular portal into a particular mission area.

Since Prophecies has more missions than any other campaign, that makes for a lot of areas to turn into explorables. I think we'll be lucky if they do even one more tied to WiK besides Divinity Coast. The conversion of mission areas not directly involved with WiK is just a pleasant dream, I suppose, unless Guild Wars Beyond is eventually going to deal with events in other areas of Prophecies.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yol View Post
Hmmm....wouldn't it be nice if more of the prophecies missions could be accessible as explorables (thus making the maps like cantha and elona)
I can't remember how many times I've suggested that.
Such a thing would be a dream come true.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrettM View Post
Yes, you can. It isn't clear from the way things are set up, but giving Thackeray an item that isn't "perfect" will complete the scavenger hunt for story purposes. So, if all else fails, you can progress the story by finding a merchant that sells Dwarven Ale or doing Fronis Irontoe for a free one.

just wanted to say this DOES work to finish up the thacky part---eg I had no more ciders so I gave him some hunter's ales....(got junk instead of parcel) but this seemed to finish up that arc for me and I was able to get the 'I need to get the girl' reply and see him and gwen doing the final HoM dialogue.

so no need for those ciders!

(just hope I dont need to see 6 dialogues + zinn + whatever else on 10+ characters )

Chronos the Defiler

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
(just hope I dont need to see 6 dialogues + zinn + whatever else on 10+ characters )
I think this might be the case...isn't one of the pre-reqs for viewing the dialogues is that you have proph and eotn complete on that character?

belshazaarswrath

belshazaarswrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

AMP

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronos the Defiler View Post
I think this might be the case...isn't one of the pre-reqs for viewing the dialogues is that you have proph and eotn complete on that character?
...What an enormous pain in the ass.

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

@KJ: Sorry for that small rant against you. Glad to hear that, though.

@exploits: I am currently experimenting right now how to get past the barriers. Knowing Anet and their history of ShadowStepping exploits, I'd say they expected us to find out sooner or later and decided to keep the content in anyways as a sort of reward for those who got past. Otherwise, they would've only inserted the secret lab and closed it off completely.

So, if it helps anyone, I seemed to have done it the same way as the pet glitch: Use Strike As One on the Villager blocking the path, hope it gets to the left side of her, and double-click Recall (You need to use Recall on the pet as soon as you zone into the area) If you want all of your party to follow you, just give them Recall and have them put it on you, then they pop it once you've made it.

Ninja Ninja

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov View Post
I don't know if this helps or not. He basically left his photobucket account open to the world to sift through. Unedited Screenshots.


Looks like just recall was used.
At least edit his names out of the screenshot, displaying a build he was uncomfortable with sharing isn't exactly right either.

LoKi Foxfire

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apok View Post
@KJ: Sorry for that small rant against you. Glad to hear that, though.

@exploits: I am currently experimenting right now how to get past the barriers. Knowing Anet and their history of ShadowStepping exploits, I'd say they expected us to find out sooner or later and decided to keep the content in anyways as a sort of reward for those who got past. Otherwise, they would've only inserted the secret lab and closed it off completely.

So, if it helps anyone, I seemed to have done it the same way as the pet glitch: Use Strike As One on the Villager blocking the path, hope it gets to the left side of her, and double-click Recall (You need to use Recall on the pet as soon as you zone into the area) If you want all of your party to follow you, just give them Recall and have them put it on you, then they pop it once you've made it.
Is there more than one secret lab now? I haven't been following any of this WiK stuff so.

Edit: NM, found it on GuildWiki finally.

agrios

agrios

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

South America

Naked Stalkers of America[Nude]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduin View Post
Those are the same as appear in Watchtower Coast. The White Mantle Scout have a charmed White Tiger.

Also, did you all miss this? I'm not seeing any thread about it?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Zora/Gwdat

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:...le_Weapons.jpg



Thanks to Neil2250 and Zora.


Just take a look at the WM at the northern part of Watchtower Coast.
Nice skins.

Can we expect Shining Mantle skins also?

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

Good update, a lot of problem skills were addressed.

belshazaarswrath

belshazaarswrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

AMP

Forcing us to watch boring "cut scenes" to get new content is cruel...Just give us the loot. Don't force feed us bullshit we don't care about.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by belshazaarswrath View Post
Forcing us to watch boring "cut scenes" to get new content is cruel...Just give us the loot. Don't force feed us bullshit we don't care about.
Another one speaking for everybody. Jeez.
Just like all things in life...you should work for the reward.

belshazaarswrath

belshazaarswrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

AMP

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
Another one speaking for everybody. Jeez.
Just like all things in life...you should work for the reward.
Afking through a cut scene is work? Why not add in oh I dunno fights? Last time I checked the game was full of monsters to kill. At least that has some semblance of fun.

Lucci_Slevin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2008

Liars Cheats and Thieves

Some more pics


Some dialogue from Blimm

I am not that smelly.

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apok View Post
So, if it helps anyone, I seemed to have done it the same way as the pet glitch: Use Strike As One on the Villager blocking the path, hope it gets to the left side of her, and double-click Recall (You need to use Recall on the pet as soon as you zone into the area) If you want all of your party to follow you, just give them Recall and have them put it on you, then they pop it once you've made it.
Yay thanks! I'll try it, I was already thinking to wait for the villager to die of old age or hunger to pass

Quote:
Originally Posted by belshazaarswrath View Post
Afking through a cut scene is work? Why not add in oh I dunno fights? Last time I checked the game was full of monsters to kill. At least that has some semblance of fun.
You know you're not compelled to "partecipate" in these things if you think they're boring, right? Nobody will give you a cookie anyway if you do it. Just avoid speaking for everyone, some people happens to find this content funny.

LoKi Foxfire

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

I'm guessing by the pet you used that to Recall past? I saw the skill bars posted earlier... I was able to get one of my heroes past the Villager but got myself stuck in the process haha.... going to grab my pet and use that to get by now.

belshazaarswrath

belshazaarswrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

AMP

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintha Syl View Post
You know you're not compelled to "partecipate" in these things if you think they're boring, right? Nobody will give you a cookie anyway if you do it. Just avoid speaking for everyone, some people happens to find this content funny.
Yea of course my point was to make a wide statement and speak for everyone. Obviously not everyone thinks sitting through a ton of text going over the top of the screen is boring. But I sure as hell do. There are ways in which you can make these events interesting and I don't think Anet's doing it. If I wanna read a bunch of text I'll go read a book.

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by belshazaarswrath View Post
Yea of course my point was to make a wide statement and speak for everyone. Obviously not everyone thinks sitting through a ton of text going over the top of the screen is boring. But I sure as hell do. There are ways in which you can make these events interesting and I don't think Anet's doing it. If I wanna read a bunch of text I'll go read a book.
I forgot that in order to fight new enemies, they have to drop new and valuable items...

The Live Team has, over the coarse of 2-3 months, put in more story than Factions had. They have also put in more interesting AI to fight than any other campaign, and you are complaining about having to read something in an RPG without being told to fight something?

LoKi Foxfire

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

Got past the Villager. Just Strike As One using a pet until it gets far past him so that you don't get stuck yourself when you click off Recall. Need to bring skills on your henchmen or precast enchantments before entering the "Loose Magic" effect if you plan on fighting enemies.

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by belshazaarswrath View Post
Yea of course my point was to make a wide statement and speak for everyone. Obviously not everyone thinks sitting through a ton of text going over the top of the screen is boring. But I sure as hell do. There are ways in which you can make these events interesting and I don't think Anet's doing it. If I wanna read a bunch of text I'll go read a book.
So don't participate and go kill something elsewhere. What's stopping you?

OH I GET IT! You want this very specific content to cater to you. Not going to happen.

Sirds

Sirds

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Riga

Mo/

Anyone get new skin already from Divinity Coast?
Only old skin for me


Tested in hard mode also but faced lvl 32 minions and get wipped.

Chronos the Defiler

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

At least everytime they update these proph areas for the WiK stuff, they update all the textures and shaders....new Divinity looks nice and grim in the swamp :P

EDit: the peacekeeps also use a skill (with the Charm Animal icon) with no animals nearby, and is named "..." as well

It seems the farthest we can go (right now) is to the gate at Shaemore, the guards are hostile and we cannot enter, but there are enemies inside

Edit again: you dont need ANY teleport/shadowstep skills to get past the guard, but it takes some time.