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Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

15 May 2010 at 08:35 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerRAV

I can't be for sure if it uncovered much. There's screenshot after I ran around the edges.

Just checked. No change.

The area where the tower is located could be completely uncovered even before the update allowed to get in, by just scraping around the gate.

drunknzelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Time For Plan B [RUN]

E/Me

15 May 2010 at 10:15 - 122

So when they buff FC for PvE it will probably be the best primary attribute? Imagine casting spells at 13 fast cast, 52% faster cast and 39% faster recharge.. My elementalist is so jealous, Energy Storage could use some love as well, as having a higher energy cap doesn't really give you any advantages besides firing off more spells before you run out of energy, but since attunes hardly ever get stripped in PvE energy really shouldn't be that much of a problem. Oh well..

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

E/

15 May 2010 at 11:06 - 123

When you go to the new lair in divinity coast (explorable), that part of the map is blocked off from the rest of the explorable by merchants, but you can see groups of tengu and peacekeepers passing by. Has anyone tried shadowstepping past the merchants to get a good look around the explorable, or is it blocked by the loose magic environment effect?

AlexanderMorpheus

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2009

Me/

15 May 2010 at 12:02 - 124

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

You just got a free elite skill on your bar and you're crying?

How is the nerf going to harm you? You'll spam Necrosis slower? Seriously.

You're going to be playing with skills from the primary after the coming update.

Dunno if anyones pointed this out but Necrosis is a skill, and not a spell so not effected by FC.

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

15 May 2010 at 12:19 - 125

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwc89

So because I didn't hang on to 1 item from whatever event I can't complete this story.

Yes, you can. It isn't clear from the way things are set up, but giving Thackeray an item that isn't "perfect" will complete the scavenger hunt for story purposes. So, if all else fails, you can progress the story by finding a merchant that sells Dwarven Ale or doing Fronis Irontoe for a free one.

vader

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

P/W

15 May 2010 at 12:30 - 126

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

All those dialogues are a massive TIME SINK.
I really hope going through all of this won't be required to participate in the War when it finally starts, it will be a major pain to go through it on all characters.

But its new content. lol

I'm with you on this, if I have to go through this with every character to participate in future quests, it will be a major pain.

Bobby Sox

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Minty Fresh Death [MFD]

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15 May 2010 at 12:32 - 127

First of all, as to the Fast Casting leak: I really don't understand what people are so hot about. One second cast time secondary spells will cast in a second instead of two-thirds of a second, and those are the ones that feel the most change. Two second casting time spells are still reduced by FC, as are all Mesmer spells. Ash Blast has been cited several times now. Am I missing something here, because I don't understand how a third of a second is going to change that much, especially as Fevered Dreams and other Mesmer skills will be buffed at the same time (In PvE where this is obviously the issue)?

Secondly, as to the new "content": I wonder if we will eventually be allowed to explore outside this new asuran lab when more content is added. As I see it, this could be either another starting point for missions/quests, or just a dead end. If it is opened up, but Loose Energy is left in place as an environmental effect, my Paragon might be sought after for something finally!

Smarty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

England

Me/

15 May 2010 at 12:33 - 128

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apok

And tell me, good sir, why they would be "fooking" morons for changing an abusive primary attribute into a balanced primary attribute?

FC abusive? Since when exactly? *falls off chair laughing* (EDIT: I guess I should add, after reading Winterclaw's thread, that if you're talking about PvP then I can understand where you're coming from - but really with all the botting and the lack of players there, who gives a flying fourex about human mesmer players in PvP any more?

)

*

I really do not understand what is wrong with being able to FC skills from other professions in PvE, and given that FC's functionality has been split for PvE where the recharge is concerned, why can't it be split for casting too?

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

15 May 2010 at 12:37 - 129

Quote:

Originally Posted by drunknzelda

So when they buff FC for PvE it will probably be the best primary attribute? Imagine casting spells at 13 fast cast, 52% faster cast and 39% faster recharge..

Imagine a profession that has skills with a low recharge already.

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

R/N

15 May 2010 at 12:41 - 130

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty

I really do not understand what is wrong with being able to FC skills from other professions in PvE, and given that FC's functionality has been split for PvE where the recharge is concerned, why can't it be split for casting too?

Thats pretty stupid , almost all prim atts work on other profs ( except divine favor i think ) and FC is hell not as strong as Expertise , Strentgh , Crit Strikes and SR so yes , FC not applying to another class skills is BS.

micosay

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

15 May 2010 at 13:54 - 131

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yol

When you go to the new lair in divinity coast (explorable), that part of the map is blocked off from the rest of the explorable by merchants, but you can see groups of tengu and peacekeepers passing by. Has anyone tried shadowstepping past the merchants to get a good look around the explorable, or is it blocked by the loose magic environment effect?

Yup - Blocked - all skills fail

Rather Harmless

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

W/

15 May 2010 at 14:16 - 132

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Imagine if the time they wasted on this whole War in Kryta thing had gone towards skill updates. Just imagine.

LOL, he said skill updates. ^^

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

15 May 2010 at 16:03 - 133

Quote:

Originally Posted by vader

I'm with you on this, if I have to go through this with every character to participate in future quests, it will be a major pain.

If we ever get any "quest" at all. The fact WiK is being described as a "multimedia experience" sounds worryingly like a decoy.

Whatever. I suspect the quest giver will be Salma herself in the tower, so...

How did Salma get to LA anyway? Could this really be so easy, just get there, unlock the tower gate and take a seat on the throne? Please...

vandevere

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Great State of Denial

W/Mo

15 May 2010 at 16:13 - 134

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gill Halendt

If we ever get any "quest" at all. The fact WiK is being described as a "multimedia experience" sounds worryingly like a decoy.

Whatever. I suspect the quest giver will be Salma herself in the tower, so...

How did Salma get to LA anyway? Could this really be so easy, just get there, unlock the tower gate and take a seat on the throne? Please...

Maybe she took the Cleopatra route. You know...had herself smuggled in with the rugs and other furnishings...

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

15 May 2010 at 16:26 - 135

I like new WiK addictions. I was too lazy to go to the shining blade camp to watch the dialogues til now, so I did them all in a raw to see the secret laboratory and gain access to the tower. And now I must say they are really funny. Plus the lab is interesting (owww what's gonna happen to the Seer??) and the tower is cool, I always wanted to go up there.
And random guards speeches make me laugh, like this

and the one saying "you don't even want to know what I did with the banners they left behind"

kalebmordannon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ost in Edhil

W/

15 May 2010 at 20:06 - 136

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yol

When you go to the new lair in divinity coast (explorable), that part of the map is blocked off from the rest of the explorable by merchants, but you can see groups of tengu and peacekeepers passing by. Has anyone tried shadowstepping past the merchants to get a good look around the explorable, or is it blocked by the loose magic environment effect?

If you try a little bit you can get through and past those merchants. There are lots of White Mantle troops running around. Found it kind of odd, one of the troops had a pet [U]white[U] tiger. Didn't they first appear in Factions? Anyway, I'm still exploring as I type. This is actually the Divinity Coast mission map, am I right? The long bridge is here and is covered in White Mantle troops. Will post screenies if I can figure out how.

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

15 May 2010 at 20:07 - 137

Those are the same as appear in Watchtower Coast. The White Mantle Scout have a charmed White Tiger.

Also, did you all miss this? I'm not seeing any thread about it?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Zora/Gwdat

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:...le_Weapons.jpg

Thanks to Neil2250 and Zora.

Just take a look at the WM at the northern part of Watchtower Coast.

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

15 May 2010 at 20:14 - 138

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arduin

Those are the same as appear in Watchtower Coast. The White Mantle Scout have a charmed White Tiger.

Also, did you all miss this? I'm not seeing any thread about it?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Zora/Gwdat

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:...le_Weapons.jpg

New weapons??? I'm officially excited.

kalebmordannon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ost in Edhil

W/

15 May 2010 at 20:24 - 139

Just a few more pics.

lol, I'm not very thorough.

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

15 May 2010 at 20:25 - 140

This content is finally heating up, instead of useless text and random scenes there are items coming out.

Deviant Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

On a boat!

Homeless.

Mo/

15 May 2010 at 20:47 - 141

Oooooooo a new bow for the collection!

The focus looks like it has some serious clipping potential...

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

R/

15 May 2010 at 21:50 - 142

On the cartography question: if you haven't uncovered that area, it would be a surprise. Very little, if anything, would be uncovered that wasnt in uncovering LA, North Kryta Province and Gates of Kryta

On the Fast Casting: suck it up. The Expertise bonus for Rangers only affects ranger skills (less energy to use a skill)

On the Mantle Weapons: in the word of Vekk: Interesting...

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

15 May 2010 at 21:57 - 143

More than for the weapons, I'm happy for the other items. Quest items and rewards mean there's gonna be quests so yay!

UnChosen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

15 May 2010 at 22:04 - 144

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariovist Lynxkind

On the Fast Casting: suck it up. The Expertise bonus for Rangers only affects ranger skills (less energy to use a skill

Erm...expertise also affect all touch skills, ritual skills, and attack skills of ALL professions. Ever heard of touch rangers and the much hated escape scythe "Sway" rangers? (which caused escape to be nerfed, btw).

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

R/

15 May 2010 at 22:06 - 145

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnChosen

Erm...expertise also affect all touch skills, ritual skills, and attack skills of ALL professions. Ever heard of touch rangers and the much hated escape scythe "Sway" rangers? (which caused escape to be nerfed, btw).

Actually, second check I am wrong, but it doesnt affect attack skills, only ritual and touch skills.

Shriketalon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

15 May 2010 at 22:13 - 146

In regards to the FC thing...

There's a very easy way they could make it work. Have PvE only versions of the Mantras that make FC apply to things.

So Mantra of Flame has "resist fire, gain energy, blah blah blah, and your Fast Casting attribute applies to Fire Magic Skills". Same for Earth, Frost, Lightning, etc, etc.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

15 May 2010 at 22:20 - 147

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shriketalon

So Mantra of Flame has "resist fire, gain energy, blah blah blah, and your Fast Casting attribute applies to Fire Magic Skills". Same for Earth, Frost, Lightning, etc, etc.

Why on earth would you use elementalist skills in general PvE?

Seriously it's .3 seconds longer on 1s spells. It's not significantly slowing down your output, and the few interrupts in PvE can reflex your quarter casts anyway. In return most mesmer skills become godly.

Shriketalon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

15 May 2010 at 22:38 - 148

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

Why on earth would you use elementalist skills in general PvE?

Is "for the lulz" an acceptable response?

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

R/

15 May 2010 at 22:52 - 149

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shriketalon

Is "for the lulz" an acceptable response?

Or for hitting multiple targets

I do have some serious fun on my eles though, and it isnt through watching their dance emote*

*sick puppies who thought that... it is only a bunch of pixels damnit!

Hells Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

W/D

15 May 2010 at 23:06 - 150

Need more instructions how to get past blocking merchants. I knew there must be some kind of bug, but failed to find it.

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

15 May 2010 at 23:06 - 151

I cannot get past that Villager for the life of me

go cubs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

Chicago

[SIR]

D/

15 May 2010 at 23:14 - 152

ah duh, thanks for help...I read that too, didnt even realize it ;( i am teh noobz...Also what is SBC?

Hells Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

W/D

15 May 2010 at 23:16 - 153

Quote:

Originally Posted by go cubs

so, what do i need to do to get behind the gate in LA?

Read page 6 here.

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

R/

15 May 2010 at 23:17 - 154

Quote:

Originally Posted by go cubs

so, what do i need to do to get behind the gate in LA?

Talk to the Lion's Arch Keep Gate Guard. If he wont let you in, you need to go through all the SBC dialogue, Zinn's Trial (needed for SBC dialogue continuation), Thackarey's dialogue/scavenger hunt and seen the meeting between Evinnia and the Vanguard just outside EotN

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

16 May 2010 at 00:36 - 155

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariovist Lynxkind

Actually, second check I am wrong, but it doesnt affect attack skills, only ritual and touch skills.

Ummmm...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Wiki

For each rank of Expertise, the Energy cost of all of your attacks, Rituals, touch skills and Rangers[sic] skills are decreased by 4%.

Your main is a Ranger...? Mines a Derv. LOL.

own age myname

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Minnesota

[TAS]

R/

16 May 2010 at 00:43 - 156

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariovist Lynxkind

Talk to the Lion's Arch Keep Gate Guard. If he wont let you in, you need to go through all the SBC dialogue, Zinn's Trial (needed for SBC dialogue continuation), Thackarey's dialogue/scavenger hunt and seen the meeting between Evinnia and the Vanguard just outside EotN

Woah, this true? Anet is actually making playable content. Been so long.

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

16 May 2010 at 00:48 - 157

I just reached the top of the area near Loamhurst in the Divinity Coast explorable, there is a Boss with the name "..." which is an ele boss up there.

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

16 May 2010 at 02:37 - 158

Zzzz

Still no skill update or content? I'll check back into GW when something happens?

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

16 May 2010 at 03:17 - 159

This is content, genius. Just because you can't get "rich" from it doesn't mean it's not worth having.

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

16 May 2010 at 03:20 - 160

Quote:

Originally Posted by A11Eur0

This is content, genius. Just because you can't get "rich" from it doesn't mean it's not worth having.

Excuse me, Captain Literal. I meant there's no playable content, yet.

It's still not what we've been told we'd get for 3 months. And the skill update is late.....