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Ninja Ninja

Ninja Ninja

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
You have to be pretty dense to not realize why that is.
You have to be pretty dense to not realize I was baiting a response.

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Alvito View Post
How is the nerf going to harm you? You'll spam Necrosis slower? Seriously.
Necrosis is a skill, not a spell or signet. Doesn't work with MoR, LA, or Arcane Echo.

Using mesmer skills is one of things players including myself wanted and the change doesn't effect shouts...

One problem is Fevered Dreams and Ash Blast.

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
Try going to LA on a character that has seen the other dialogues. Maybe look at changing your guild cape.
I've seen all the dialogues (the last one being the one with the new recruits), but the guard won't let me pass through. What am I missing?

Scarlett Romanov

Scarlett Romanov

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowbaneX View Post
I've seen all the dialogues (the last one being the one with the new recruits), but the guard won't let me pass through. What am I missing?
Did you see the dialogue outside of the Eye of the North? (It involves Gwen/Thackery/Langmar.)

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov View Post
Did you see the dialogue outside of the Eye of the North? (It involves Gwen/Thackery/Langmar.)
Yes, although now that you mention it, it might have been on a seperate character.

PowerRAV

PowerRAV

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Missouri (Central Time Zone)

N/

Some nice views of LA...





Krill

Krill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

America

We still on the semiannual PvP skill update schedule?

-Makai-

-Makai-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

WA

DH

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerRAV View Post
Some nice views of LA...





Looks nice...can't wait to get there. Do you know if that area offers any cartography points?

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
Necrosis is a skill, not a spell or signet. Doesn't work with MoR, LA, or Arcane Echo.

Using mesmer skills is one of things players including myself wanted and the change doesn't effect shouts...

One problem is Fevered Dreams and Ash Blast.
Shorter recharge on FD, Drain Delusions, Energy Tap and and other Mesmer energy management skills you like to use.
I'll take the one second cast time on Ash Blast if it means I can keep going reliably in a longer fight.

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

Awww Gwen is getting in touch with her feelings.

Sankt Hallvard

Guest

Join Date: Dec 2006

Yep. The fevered dreams+ash blast combo will be blown out of the water with this update. It's official - anet really hates mesmers.

@Krill - Bimonthly updates, man. Gives them more time to roll out meaningful updates. So instead of randomly buffing a sin elite every month they can rather..eh.. Never mind.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowbaneX View Post
I've seen all the dialogues (the last one being the one with the new recruits), but the guard won't let me pass through. What am I missing?
the new recruits is nowhere near the last one. read the whole post.

PowerRAV

PowerRAV

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Missouri (Central Time Zone)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm View Post
Looks nice...can't wait to get there. Do you know if that area offers any cartography points?



I can't be for sure if it uncovered much. There's screenshot after I ran around the edges.

Hells Fury

Hells Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

W/D

Please speculate what in the world is going on with seer / asura and god i hope mursaats.
Why is asura doing the wulfenstein (1st level) experiment with seer.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

The only thing I can imagine is to extract whatever energy they use to infuse armor. Probably to use it with an ultimate anti-mursaat weapon. I just wonder if the seer volunteered for it...

Hells Fury

Hells Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

W/D

Seers just perform ritual its the eidolon spectral essence thats needed for infuse.

cruzer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Snow

The War in Kryta... so basically nothing new again ... just a some more dialogue to read but nothing to do (no new quests, etc...)

ilr

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2010

[Abandoned acct]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm View Post
Looks nice...can't wait to get there. Do you know if that area offers any cartography points?
If this is now added to and therefore required for 100% cartography, I will raeg

Hells Fury

Hells Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

W/D

New update again!. Probably fix for livia.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilr View Post
If this is now added to and therefore required for 100% cartography, I will raeg
That's not how cartography has ever worked. When LA was turned into a desert for a day and people could "walk out to sea", the extra pixels they unlocked counted to the title.

Also: biggest O-o moment in a long time when I looked into Zinn's lab and saw that Seer lying there.

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

Apparently non-mesmer skills bellow 2 seconds cast faster, but only signet recharge faster...

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
the new recruits is nowhere near the last one. read the whole post.
I have been reading it, I just didn't know that more was needed to get this other stuff to work. The Wiki lied to me.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I just went thru what you need to do to get the secret passage and entrance to the new LA part.
1 completed prophecies or eye
2 finished the thacky/gwen arc including the part where evennia shows up
3 watched zinns trail
4 listened to 3 reg dialogs at the bakhu camp as well as livias return with the 2 asura.

then I finally got the passage and new LA. what a way to spend my friday night

coil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
I just went thru what you need to do to get the secret passage and entrance to the new LA part.
1 completed prophecies or eye
2 finished the thacky/gwen arc including the part where evennia shows up
3 watched zinns trail
4 listened to 3 reg dialogs at the bakhu camp as well as livias return with the 2 asura.

then I finally got the passage and new LA. what a way to spend my friday night
i have this to (not) look forward to

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
I just went thru what you need to do to get the secret passage and entrance to the new LA part.

2 finished the thacky/gwen arc including the part where evennia shows up
This is where I fell off. How do you get Evennia to show?

Hells Fury

Hells Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

W/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
I just went thru what you need to do to get the secret passage and entrance to the new LA part.
1 completed prophecies or eye
2 finished the thacky/gwen arc including the part where evennia shows up
3 watched zinns trail
4 listened to 3 reg dialogs at the bakhu camp as well as livias return with the 2 asura.

then I finally got the passage and new LA. what a way to spend my friday night
This needs special page on wiki. The "war in kryta" and "guild wars beyond" page are full of back side info that's not useful in gameplay (like facebook updates etc). Need just a game related walkthrou. I've feed trackey with stuff he asked, seen his and gwens dialog, seen 3 dialogs at dakutu, watched zinns trial but i have no idea where is dialog with evennia and when does livia come with 2 asura.

Btw any idea what was exactly that second update 1 hour ago?

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

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Originally Posted by Hell Darkblight View Post
Btw any idea what was exactly that second update 1 hour ago?
Fixed the FC description, and possibly fixed a bug that sprouted from the first update.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

after you give thacky the last item he talks about needing to get the girl...then he has his last dialogue with gwen in the HoM....
the 2nd dialogue at dakhu with salma, evennia and livia says they are going to go and try to get recruits (livia goes to rata sum but never gets there, evennia goes to eye (I saw the dialogue with evennia/thacky/gwen et al after I saw the 3rd dahku dialogue).
Livia shows after you do the zinn trial. Evennia shows after you listen to the dialogue about her going to eye.

(I will assume the 2nd update had a fix for livia who seemed to have gotten stuck around the secret passage, though 50 files is a lot for just that---).

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
I just went thru what you need to do to get the secret passage and entrance to the new LA part.
1 completed prophecies or eye
2 finished the thacky/gwen arc including the part where evennia shows up
3 watched zinns trail
4 listened to 3 reg dialogs at the bakhu camp as well as livias return with the 2 asura.

then I finally got the passage and new LA. what a way to spend my friday night
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the War in Kryta has been mainly marketed towards the "hardcore" on the forums. A lone person figuring out what to do from scratch (especially at this point) would be ridiculously difficult.

I just hope they allow anyone to do whatever actual content they implement, or we're going to have a LOT of people in LA spamming "where do I find Salma/Gwen/Thackeray/XX" semi-literately.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I was just lucky to have had a few ciders left over from thanksgiving TO finish the thacky/gwen arc (I dont believe in making the rich richer so I wont buy them).

I am not a hard core person, but I had the 1st prerequisite (finishing proph or eye) and had done the gwen story so I thought I would see what exactly was needed to get the "new content"....took me a better part of an hour to get thru all of that, ZZzzzz.... and it was a bit of a let down if you ask me.

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

There are TOO MANY waste-of-time dialogue steps required for this. Didn't I just read a GW2 article where they claimed that all this NPC dialogue quest crap was a boring part of MMOs? Why didn't the GW2 team yell down the ANet halls to the GW1 team to knock this crap off?

Hells Fury

Hells Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

W/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by TideSwayer View Post
There are TOO MANY waste-of-time dialogue steps required for this. Didn't I just read a GW2 article where they claimed that all this NPC dialogue quest crap was a boring part of MMOs? Why didn't the GW2 team yell down the ANet halls to the GW1 team to knock this crap off?
Because making actual cinematics is much harder i think. It's way to easier to write a few (hundred) lines and pop couple of emotes of npc. Cinematics are much more fun but as usual live team probably doesn't have resources and time for that. They only cinematic scenes you'll see is at zinns trial as transitions. (the one where that asura calculates some stuff)

asb

asb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Europe

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TideSwayer View Post
Why didn't the GW2 team yell down the ANet halls to the GW1 team to knock this crap off?
Considering the GW1 team size, maybe because it's all they are able to do? *shrugs*

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TideSwayer View Post
There are TOO MANY waste-of-time dialogue steps required for this. Didn't I just read a GW2 article where they claimed that all this NPC dialogue quest crap was a boring part of MMOs? Why didn't the GW2 team yell down the ANet halls to the GW1 team to knock this crap off?
Dialogs and emotes are still better than text boxes. *shrug*

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

I don't care about cinematics and stuff like that. I'm just saying that they should've kept this minimal, not more than a handful of mundane steps. If it turns out I have to do all of this on every character to access whatever this is leading up to, well, ...... no thanks, lol.

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

I finally caught up and accessed the keep. The plot thickens...

Hells Fury

Hells Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

W/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by TideSwayer View Post
I don't care about cinematics and stuff like that. I'm just saying that they should've kept this minimal, not more than a handful of mundane steps. If it turns out I have to do all of this on every character to access whatever this is leading up to, well, ...... no thanks, lol.
True, i won't bother to do on other chars just on main.
But they have to tell some stories cause there would be too much gaps in gw2.
I said before, the ultimate thing they could is that they introduce ebonhawk fortress in gw1.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Ugh...I've got a lot of boring running around to do now...

dwc89

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

earth

Character based access, have to have given Thackery all the things for the picnic(hard apple cider easy to get - not).
So because I didn't hang on to 1 item from whatever event I can't complete this story. Don't mind going out and farming for stuff - but something that drops only at certain time(s) is just bad.
So my interest is whaning in this - too much time running around for???
The idea and concept is good - execution could use a tune up here and there.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

All those dialogues are a massive TIME SINK.
I really hope going through all of this won't be required to participate in the War when it finally starts, it will be a major pain to go through it on all characters.