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headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

21 May 2010 at 23:24 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage

Yep, Sliver is now officially dead. Massive scatter now.

I want to try this on Jora and see how this disrupts groups in melee, I could just imagine a number of funny things happening.

I'm also making a note on empathy PVE now bearing the effects of weakness, it's clearly a double-skill now but I'm thankful as hell we don't see that coming to PVP matches or every sin on the map will be more worthless then W class. I still want to see either an extra recharge nerf or easy int so it's not excessively maintainable.

As for seeping wound, 15 cast is a bit harsh. I'm wondering how this will work with multiple dual attacks now?

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

21 May 2010 at 23:25 - 42

So, after 4 years of Sliver Armor dealing damage to a single target, they just now call that function a "bug"?

Oh, for the love of swamp rats...

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

21 May 2010 at 23:25 - 43

Yep W/N is officially the preferred raptor farm build by anet. But of course they didn't nerf sliver because of raptor farming but because of a/e high-end farms.

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

21 May 2010 at 23:25 - 44

* Fixed a bug that caused Sliver Armor to always deal damage to the same foe.

IT was bugged? It has been exploited enough?

Mesmers omg there will be mesmers everywere anyone wanne geuss how many mesmer skills are going to get a second update?

roysland

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Me/

21 May 2010 at 23:27 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemming

Skill-Related Changes
* Monsters in the Underworld and Fissure of Woe now have innate health regeneration in Hard Mode only.
* Monsters in the Underworld and Fissure of Woe now have reduced health totals in Hard Mode only.

Can someone please explain these to me? Especially the "reduced health totals". What has happened here?

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

R/

21 May 2010 at 23:27 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timey

Theres also a quest in lions arch keep, or was that added before the update?

It was snuck in with the update, but only announced on the SB FB page

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

21 May 2010 at 23:27 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by roysland

Can someone please explain these to me? Especially the "reduced health totals". What has happened here?

They changed monsters in Hard Mode in UW/FoW/ToPK to have less health but more health regen.

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

21 May 2010 at 23:29 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

Mesmers omg there will be mesmers everywere anyone wanne geuss how many mesmer skills are going to get a second update?

I should check out JQ and see what becomes the standard there. Give it a few days and hopefully it gets axed.

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

21 May 2010 at 23:30 - 49

Playing around with builds now..

Complicate + other interrupts = win

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

21 May 2010 at 23:33 - 50

* Psychic Instability: increased recharge to 12 seconds; changed functionality to: "Elite Spell. Interrupts the target foe's action. If that action is a skill, that foe and all nearby foes are knocked down for 2...4...4 seconds. (50% failure chance with Fast Casting 4 or less.)"

Lolwut. How long till this gets nerfed? I am in need to find a quick and good way to use and abuse it till its to late

Quote:

Originally Posted by headlesshobbs

I should check out JQ and see what becomes the standard there. Give it a few days and hopefully it gets axed.

indeed a challange for thos bot creators.

Mind Wrack: changed duration to 5...33...40 seconds; increased damage to target at 0 energy to 15...83...100; added the following functionality: "Whenever that foe is the target of one of your Mesmer skills, that foe loses 1 Energy and takes 5...21...25 damage per point of Energy lost."

Loses and 1 energy / per point of energy lost? Isn't it always 1 point? making per point of Energy lost not needed to put there

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

21 May 2010 at 23:39 - 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

* Psychic Instability: increased recharge to 12 seconds; changed functionality to: "Elite Spell. Interrupts the target foe's action. If that action is a skill, that foe and all nearby foes are knocked down for 2...4...4 seconds. (50% failure chance with Fast Casting 4 or less.)".

lol! Now I can KD anything.

Ginger Hunter

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2008

England

HEH

A/D

21 May 2010 at 23:40 - 52

I haven't been following the war in kryta stuffs, and I'm not sure if this was added in this update, but there is a quest to kill Insatiable Vakar in the lions keep.

Now I hope it wasn't added in an earlier update and make myself look stupid

Oh and gwen disappeared from my list of available heroes =/ Anyone else get that?

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

21 May 2010 at 23:40 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by headlesshobbs

lol! Now I can KD anything.

Haha Backbraker vs PI interesting who will react faster

Bill Clinton

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2009

21 May 2010 at 23:41 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Hunter

I haven't been following the war in kryta stuffs, and I'm not sure if this was added in this update, but there is a quest to kill Insatiable Vakar in the lions keep.

Now I hope it wasn't added in an earlier update and make myself look stupid

Oh and gwen disappeared from my list of available heroes =/ Anyone else get that?

omg wow, its new!!!

ragnagard

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

In Spain, of course

Gamer Espa??ol[GE]

N/Mo

21 May 2010 at 23:48 - 55

gwen is still there for me.

just did (but not complete) tackeray talking scenes in hom.

Was just me or did anet nerf the vaettirs too?

seems like either they want us to kill nephilas for events, or there are other unknown and weird issues with that.

Gondrakif

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2009

GMT +2

21 May 2010 at 23:50 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

Mind Wrack: changed duration to 5...33...40 seconds; increased damage to target at 0 energy to 15...83...100; added the following functionality: "Whenever that foe is the target of one of your Mesmer skills, that foe loses 1 Energy and takes 5...21...25 damage per point of Energy lost."

Loses and 1 energy / per point of energy lost? Isn't it always 1 point? making per point of Energy lost not needed to put there

Maybe it works with energy lost by the spell you use too so Energy Burn on a Mind Wracked target @ 15 Domination would be 365 damage... rofl...

ll Jamie ll

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

Devon, England.

Desolation Lords [DL]

E/Mo

21 May 2010 at 23:56 - 57

Playing around also.. keystone sig, followed by wastrels and unnatural sig. omg. along with chaos storm, symbolic celerity and some monk damage signets. Pretty sweet.

Not meaning to go off topic there.

Anyway, im pretty sure those pesky UWSC'ers will find another way, they always do...

ChrisCo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

[ToR]

W/

21 May 2010 at 23:56 - 58

Well just opened a Royal Gift and a got a scroll of adventure's insight -_-

Anyone figured out what the Medals of Honor do ?

Turbo Ginsu

I despise facebook

Join Date: Feb 2008

Australia

Meeting of the Lost Minds

Me/

21 May 2010 at 23:57 - 59

Unbelieveable...Why on earth did they bother to give mobs at ToPK innate regen?

To stop farmers? To stop bots?

Told you they didn't understand their own game. We can still do it perfectly fine in NM, just as fast as ever, which in the ecto farming scheme of things, means that it was a completely and utterly pointless change, which will only hinder balanced groups, not farmers.

I put forth the proposition that the time they wasted on that change would far better have been used on tinkering with Dervs, or Para's.

Pointless change is pointless.

Ariovist Lynxkind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Lynxkind Atrium, Echovald Forest, Cantha

Death Bringers Union [DBU]

R/

21 May 2010 at 23:58 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by ragnagard

gwen is still there for me.

just did (but not complete) tackeray talking scenes in hom.

Was just me or did anet nerf the vaettirs too?

seems like either they want us to kill nephilas for events, or there are other unknown and weird issues with that.

Is that the Mez Vaettirs? if so, it is probably a result of the mes balance. If it is another profession, just check the list to see what got nerfed and that might explain it

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

21 May 2010 at 23:58 - 61

Sliver Armor.

W T F ? They killed my E/Me Raptor farmer, that I've been using since like forever.

I heard there are bots using a E/Me build to farm Raptors. Is that why they did this?

JUMP! YOU ****ERS!

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

21 May 2010 at 23:58 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gondrakif

Maybe it works with energy lost by the spell you use too so Energy Burn on a Mind Wracked target @ 15 Domination would be 365 damage... rofl...

lol that was the first thing I tried...didn't work....however it is nice with the new frustration/migraine

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

22 May 2010 at 00:00 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gondrakif

Maybe it works with energy lost by the spell you use too so Energy Burn on a Mind Wracked target @ 15 Domination would be 365 damage... rofl...

Nope tested it with power leak wich made -18e -1e -26dmg

Frozen Ele

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2009

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

E/N

22 May 2010 at 00:02 - 64

Too bad I can't log on right now to start experimenting. Anyways, I was wondering, with the wiki not fully updated yet and not being able to log on, could someone list what the full description of Mirror of Ice is?

PowerRAV

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Missouri (Central Time Zone)

N/

22 May 2010 at 00:03 - 65

So are all updates going to come on Fridays instead of Thursdays now?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apollo Smile

Apparently some of the new White Mantle bosses drop greens now, intresting indeed.

This true? are they up on the wiki yet?

BLOODGOAT

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

long a

Mo/

22 May 2010 at 00:04 - 66

Grats to the Sliver "bug". Retarded.

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

22 May 2010 at 00:05 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisCo

Anyone figured out what the Medals of Honor do ?

Sekkrit... You'll find out later... You should probably hold on to them.

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.

R/

22 May 2010 at 00:05 - 68

after playing around in RA for a half an hour, i must conclude that this update is an astronomical failure.

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

22 May 2010 at 00:06 - 69

Paragon heroes now try to keep up Aggressive Refrain at all times.

Even when it's already on them.

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

22 May 2010 at 00:08 - 70

Big question I have is how does sliver affect the uwsc I would love to know

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

22 May 2010 at 00:11 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisCo

Anyone figured out what the Medals of Honor do ?

Allows people to sell them for insane prices because no one knows what they will do.

As for the Royal Gift, I got a Scroll of Slayer's Insight, so I can safely say Scrolls can be obtained from them. UW and FoW Scrolls, who knows.

Gondrakif

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2009

GMT +2

22 May 2010 at 00:11 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Del

after playing around in RA for a half an hour, i must conclude that this update is an astronomical failure.

You can't expect (drastic) changes 1-2 hours after an update

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

22 May 2010 at 00:11 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel of Ravn

Big question I have is how does sliver affect the uwsc I would love to know

Try it out ^^ kiss some smite crawlers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gondrakif

You can't expect (drastic) changes 1-2 hours after an update

Indeed GW team does not prevent overpowerd skill just toss it all in and adjust from there. Hell we ARE the test team.

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

22 May 2010 at 00:13 - 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

Try it out ^^ kiss some smite crawlers

Lol I'm tempted to but I have a feeling the people that do uwsc are gonna come any min on here to rage about it that is if it really screws uwsc over.

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

22 May 2010 at 00:15 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel of Ravn

Lol I'm tempted to but I have a feeling the people that do uwsc are gonna come any min on here to rage about it that is if it really screws uwsc over.

Why wait got to ToA and have a laugh. I think sliver if fixed as statet makes FoW undoable to

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.

R/

22 May 2010 at 00:16 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gondrakif

You can't expect (drastic) changes 1-2 hours after an update

but i can expect retarded buffs and months of shit meta before anet bothers to even attempt to fix anything. way to buff hexway anet, gg.

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

22 May 2010 at 00:16 - 77

Anet please fix the guild lord.

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

22 May 2010 at 00:18 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

Why wait got to ToA and have a laugh. I think sliver if fixed as statet makes FoW undoable to

Lol great idea people are already whining about terraway and fowsc because t1 and t2 fails apparently now.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

22 May 2010 at 00:19 - 79

ROFL

Years of massive raptor abuse and it all turns out to be a bug

That is just so funny.

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

22 May 2010 at 00:20 - 80

I thought they were going to give full disclosure on updates by publishing the update notes for skill balances well in advance, instead of the surprise fail.