Update - Friday, May 21, 2010

Infanta

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

any nerf to UWSC or FOWWSC is good for the game. I like this update so far.

NeferJackal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Highly intriguing changes, gonna take a while to digest all this.

But it clearly looks like that Mesmers is quite sidelining Elementalists as damage dealers with all the MASSIVE armor ignoring skills they have. Making the elemental spells of the ele seem quite puny in comparision.

Add in the double bang of Mesmers getting decreased spell recharges from Fast Casting, which is extremely powerful beyond words.

Energy Draining seems quite a lot more worthwhile now.

Signets also seems to become interesting.

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Quote:
Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die View Post
Mind Wrack: changed duration to 5...33...40 seconds; increased damage to target at 0 energy to 15...83...100; added the following functionality: "Whenever that foe is the target of one of your Mesmer skills, that foe loses 1 Energy and takes 5...21...25 damage per point of Energy lost."

Loses and 1 energy / per point of energy lost? Isn't it always 1 point? making per point of Energy lost not needed to put there
Presumably, it doesn't do damage if the target is zeroed.

Gabriel of Ravn

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Infanta View Post
any nerf to UWSC or FOWWSC is good for the game. I like this update so far.
Yes I agree and speaking of which I remember a post a couple days back about the stones from uw chest. Guess what those stones don't mean crap now bahahaha.

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

Any changes are good for the game, even if they are bad, at least people have to go and try them out before they can come back here and complain.

ragnagard

ragnagard

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

In Spain, of course

Gamer Espa??ol[GE]

N/Mo

I checked it.

Vaettirs still work as ever (farmable with the crappiest E/Me build i could use):



Still lotta 0's and +2 on screen.
I was expecting some signets or whatever

Gondrakif

Gondrakif

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2009

GMT +2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Del View Post
but i can expect retarded buffs and months of shit meta before anet bothers to even attempt to fix anything. way to buff hexway anet, gg.
I'm a casual pvp player so i will take your word for that
But the way i see it this update was meant to buff mesmers and from my limited experience mesmers have their uses in pvp so this was more of a pve update and if it affects pvp as you say it does something is really wrong...

Anyway i gotta love the update threads where everyone is asking pretty much for an answer to 1-2 simple things or complaining about them and an Anet member shows up and instead of commenting on that, answers some other random questions

To Chicken To Die

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
Presumably, it doesn't do damage if the target is zeroed.
So mind wrack wears of if the energy reaches 0 and makes the additional effect not to deal dmg?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gondrakif View Post
I'm a casual pvp player so i will take your word for that
But the way i see it this update was meant to buff mesmers and from my limited experience mesmers have their uses in pvp so this was more of a pve update and if it affects pvp as you say it does something is really wrong...

Anyway i gotta love the update threads where everyone is asking pretty much for an answer to 1-2 simple things or complaining about them and an Anet member shows up and instead of commenting on that, answers some other random questions
There already short on man power so don't expect them to comment everyone. With this buff they will respond sooner or later with changes

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Overall good update. I haven't played on my Mesmer in PvP for a while, nor my Mesmer in PvE. I'll have to log in and try some new builds.

Magragoc

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by ragnagard View Post
I checked it.

Vaettirs still work as ever (farmable with the crappiest E/Me build i could use):



Still lotta 0's and +2 on screen.
I was expecting some signets or whatever
All they did was give them Mind Wrack, at least from what I could see when I dropped Obby Flesh.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Del View Post
but i can expect retarded buffs and months of shit meta before anet bothers to even attempt to fix anything. way to buff hexway anet, gg.
AOE Ineptitude...

Gondrakif

Gondrakif

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2009

GMT +2

Quote:
Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die View Post
So mind wrack wears of if the energy reaches 0 and makes the additional effect not to deal dmg?
I think it is more like if you use a mesmer skill on a Mind Wracked target with 0 energy since the target can't loose energy you won't get the 5...21...25 damage

Del

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gondrakif View Post
I'm a casual pvp player so i will take your word for that
But the way i see it this update was meant to buff mesmers and from my limited experience mesmers have their uses in pvp so this was more of a pve update and if it affects pvp as you say it does something is really wrong...

Anyway i gotta love the update threads where everyone is asking pretty much for an answer to 1-2 simple things or complaining about them and an Anet member shows up and instead of commenting on that, answers some other random questions
rupt bots with a rupt that kds for 3 seconds, lulz. e-denial spikes, etc, shit's broke.

macke

macke

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Serbia-Belgrade

W/

Just sold 10 War Supplies for 40k ^^ Ppl going mad! we are at War!! xD

Gabriel of Ravn

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by macke View Post
Just sold 10 War Supplies for 40k ^^ Ppl going mad! we are at War!! xD
Lol way to profit I however will keep mine and just wait because I'm sure there will be several more quests added and war supplies will be almost like trade contracts in terms of value.

macke

macke

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Serbia-Belgrade

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel of Ravn View Post
Lol way to profit I however will keep mine and just wait because I'm sure there will be several more quests added and war supplies will be almost like trade contracts in terms of value.
I am thinking more like Z coins this is going to work, and there's no chance A-net will gave 40k for one Quest. tho... We are at WAR!

Ravi

Ravi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Average Joes [none]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by macke View Post
I am thinking more like Z coins this is going to work, and there's no chance A-net will gave 40k for one Quest. tho... We are at WAR!
agreed. the quest at the LA keep is most likely a daily quest, we'll have to wait and see.

Absolute Destiny

Absolute Destiny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Oklahoma City

Forgotten Realms [FR]

W/

[QUOTE=* Improved the skill set used by Mindblade Specters in the Underworld.
* Improved the skill set used by Spectral Vaettir in Jaga Moraine.
* Improved the skill set used by Wind Riders in the Maguuma Jungle.[/QUOTE]

Improved? How so?

Made-easier-to-kill improved?
Or you-will-shoot-yourself-in-a-Cry-of-Pain improved?

Apok

Apok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

Looks like they simply added in a bounty board for the SB/WM war to keep people occupied until the next update.

Charlie Dayman

Charlie Dayman

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

Trifecta Luminati [TRI]

W/

Wouldn't mind seeing these bounties added in the way Zaishen missions are done. That was a fun little quest - had some sin along with four other SB warriors tag along on the fight.

The Josip

The Josip

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2009

Me/

Amazing.

If this update was for one of your primary chars, you would cheer.

But since barely anyone plays mesmers anymore, at least in PvE, all there is in this thread is complaining complaining complaining.


The complaints in this thread show clearly one thing: WHAT ARE GW PLAYERS OF TODAY CONCERNED ABOUT. AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

Answer? Nothing but farming and barely anyone is a mesmer. What's new?

This update is almost entirely about mesmer profession, and this thread is entirely about uh oh farming.



I'm absolutely disgusted at the state of the game today. Dominant playstyle is degenerative grinding.

Gabriel of Ravn

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Josip View Post
Amazing.

If this update was for one of your primary chars, you would cheer.

But since barely anyone plays mesmers anymore, at least in PvE, all there is in this thread is complaining complaining complaining.


The complaints in this thread show clearly one thing: WHAT ARE GW PLAYERS OF TODAY CONCERNED ABOUT. AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

Answer? Nothing but farming and barely anyone is a mesmer. What's new?

This update is almost entirely about mesmer profession, and this thread is entirely about uh oh farming.



I'm absolutely disgusted at the state of the game today. Dominant playstyle is degenerative grinding.
I might actually delete 1 of my mules after I sell stuff off to create a mesmer.

ragnagard

ragnagard

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

In Spain, of course

Gamer Espa??ol[GE]

N/Mo

would be cool to know the requirements for that quest. I mean have it noted as the skills to.

i dont get it with my main, which has done any of the WiK events but HoM conversations...

And yes, vaettirs have Mind Wrack now, got it on another screeny too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Josip View Post
Amazing.

If this update was for one of your primary chars, you would cheer.

But since barely anyone plays mesmers anymore, at least in PvE, all there is in this thread is complaining complaining complaining.


The complaints in this thread show clearly one thing: WHAT ARE GW PLAYERS OF TODAY CONCERNED ABOUT. AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

Answer? Nothing but farming and barely anyone is a mesmer. What's new?

This update is almost entirely about mesmer profession, and this thread is entirely about uh oh farming.



I'm absolutely disgusted at the state of the game today. Dominant playstyle is degenerative grinding.
Nope. I was talking about farming cause of the update notes, even if that was a line. (in normal pve having 1 more or less hex is not going to make the vaettirs pretty for ya, still bitch##).

And i got a mesmer waiting for an update like this one to play a bit different.

(L) Psychic Instability + Signet Spamming

Urass

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2008

UTC -5 or -6

Mindbender coming off my RoJ nuking bar... @ 20% cast reduction it's useless.

Though at 4 seconds instead of 2 to cast RoJ/Echo-RoJ, I prolly cant cast both before the scatter starts... have to test to see if the bar is gone entirely.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by macke View Post
Just sold 10 War Supplies for 40k ^^ Ppl going mad! we are at War!! xD
I could have sold 6 War Supplies for 90k, but I decided against it...

Del

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Josip View Post
Amazing.

If this update was for one of your primary chars, you would cheer.

But since barely anyone plays mesmers anymore, at least in PvE, all there is in this thread is complaining complaining complaining.


The complaints in this thread show clearly one thing: WHAT ARE GW PLAYERS OF TODAY CONCERNED ABOUT. AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

Answer? Nothing but farming and barely anyone is a mesmer. What's new?

This update is almost entirely about mesmer profession, and this thread is entirely about uh oh farming.



I'm absolutely disgusted at the state of the game today. Dominant playstyle is degenerative grinding.
i play mesmer, and yeah i'm happy for the pve updates, but if you have played pvp for any amount of time, you would have known that in pvp mesmers were already strong, now they're just broken, but you don't care do you pver?

The Drunkard

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2007

Still looking

Rt/

Why is it that when Anet releases content they never post it on the login screen?

Willow O Whisper

Willow O Whisper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Denmark

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Me/A

Muhahahah I just coulden't help it...... + 5 armor for each illusion skill on your bar ^^.
Been playing Illusionary swordsman since the update aired... Yea it might not be as efficient as other builds... But with this update it sure is fun ^^.
95 armor on a mesmer = awsome

To Chicken To Die

To Chicken To Die

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Drunkard View Post
Why is it that when Anet releases content they never post it on the login screen?
There to lazy to put up the message thinking wiki and there website would attract the people by every update. Let alone they can't control the message system since the wron messages come out once in a while.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute Destiny View Post
Improved? How so?

Made-easier-to-kill improved?
Or you-will-shoot-yourself-in-a-Cry-of-Pain improved?
The "monster" improvements were to make the monsters more balanced and give players a more fair chance in HM. Try it yourself and witness the skillbar changes.

Absolute Destiny

Absolute Destiny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Oklahoma City

Forgotten Realms [FR]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Josip View Post
Amazing.

If this update was for one of your primary chars, you would cheer.

But since barely anyone plays mesmers anymore, at least in PvE, all there is in this thread is complaining complaining complaining.


The complaints in this thread show clearly one thing: WHAT ARE GW PLAYERS OF TODAY CONCERNED ABOUT. AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

Answer? Nothing but farming and barely anyone is a mesmer. What's new?

This update is almost entirely about mesmer profession, and this thread is entirely about uh oh farming.



I'm absolutely disgusted at the state of the game today. Dominant playstyle is degenerative grinding.
I started a Mesmer in anticipation of this update, having never tried one, and even weeks beforehand I was having fun with the the "counter-fighting" style of a hardcore PvE interrupter.

asb

asb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Europe

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willow O Whisper View Post
Muhahahah I just coulden't help it...... + 5 armor for each illusion skill on your bar ^^.
Been playing Illusionary swordsman since the update aired... Yea it might not be as efficient as other builds... But with this update it sure is fun ^^.
95 armor on a mesmer = awsome

GLF Illusion Scyther

Grj

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Josip View Post
Amazing.

If this update was for one of your primary chars, you would cheer.

But since barely anyone plays mesmers anymore, at least in PvE, all there is in this thread is complaining complaining complaining.
What like the constant complaing done by mesmer's over the years to be more balanced and made more usefull which is code for give me powercreep.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Josip View Post
This update is almost entirely about mesmer profession, and this thread is entirely about uh oh farming.

The complaints in this thread show clearly one thing: WHAT ARE GW PLAYERS OF TODAY CONCERNED ABOUT. AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

Answer? Nothing but farming and barely anyone is a mesmer. What's new?
What is it with some mesmer players and this whole victim role thing some love to play with the waaahhhh we're the underdogs, we're so unappreciated waaaahhhhh.

Mesmer's have their powercreep now but I guess its still not enough, hard to break old habbits huh.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Josip View Post
I'm absolutely disgusted at the state of the game today. Dominant playstyle is degenerative grinding.
Completely agree

The Scorpion Knight

The Scorpion Knight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

Interesting stuff, don't know why they didn't include the quest in here.

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

There is also a new boss outside the east gate of the Ascalon settlement: Lev the Condemned.

Nerel

Nerel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

[CAT]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Drunkard View Post
Why is it that when Anet releases content they never post it on the login screen?
Most of the time when Anet delivers an update, they manage to break something, introduce a bug or just plain get it wrong... you don't want them to break the login screen now do you?

Yes, I was being facetious.

-Makai-

-Makai-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

WA

DH

Rt/

As someone who started the game as a Mesmer, I must say I'm very, very pleased by this update. The best aspect of this update, though, is that the devs understood how consumables could cause Eles and Necros to leave poor Mr. Mesmer in the dust.

Also, new minis...

Scarlett Romanov

Scarlett Romanov

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

Hmmm...New files in HoM. Can't notice any real changes.

Qing Guang

Qing Guang

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2008

California

Lucid Spirits [LIFE]

N/A

Hehe. I love how whenever ANet buffs an underperforming skill or class one of my own builds or build ideas gets completely obliterated (I used to have a very lovely and effective fire ele build utilizing the old Hundred Blades, too). It seems my violin-playing Fast Casting/Healing Prayers Me/Mo idea just wasn't meant to be.

But hey, overall it's for the better. I might actually toy around with my mez more now.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov View Post
Hmmm...New files in HoM. Can't notice any real changes.
Wouldn't surprise me if you could put those Medal of Honors in the HoM.

EDIT: Duh... should have realized that since you can get new minis, they can be put into the HoM.